D Hall stepping up as a leader?
 

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/20/deangelo-hall-its-my-team-my-defense/]DeAngelo Hall: "It's my team, my defense" | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

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Hall sounded like he was pissed at JH for putting Phillip on AJ. I really don't think it would have mattered if Hall was on Johnson but atleast he's fired up!

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He dropped a couple of f bombs during that interview. We'll see if he puts his money where his mouth is.

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I like the firey attitude...a bit early to start blaming the coach, but I like his yearning to be the leader....though I'm not sold on his coverage skills.

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Just when it looked like he'd matured into being more of a team player...
Sounds almost like he's saying that the loss isn't his fault. From what I've read & what I've seen on tv, doesn't look like this defense features much pure man on man coverage. Looked like buchanon made the right play in the zone; stay w/the wr until he gets to the safety.

We will hear about these quotes all week.

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This is definitely not Hall's defense, there's still Orakpo and Fletcher to consider.. However, there's no questions that Hall's becoming a leader.. There was even an article explaining that Shanahan had a meeting wtih Hall, and asked him to be a leader..

And not to mention, Hall looks like he bulked up a little bit, and improved his playings.. I hope he is having a pro-bowl season this year, it would help our defense lot..

Our front 7 looked good yesterday, pressuring Schuab almost whole game.. And our secondary didn't look good.. But we need to remember that The defense only played two games together with tthe new schemes and all.. We need to give it some time for the guys to understand everything and hopefully, the team will click and play lights out..

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[quote=skinsfaninok;736594][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/20/deangelo-hall-its-my-team-my-defense/"]DeAngelo Hall: "It's my team, my defense" | ProFootballTalk.com[/URL][/quote]

He also said what Haslett says "doesn't matter." Yeah, um, wrong. It's the Redskins defense, D-Hall. And it's led by Fletcher. Let's not get it twisted. And you don't hear him mouthing off about the scheme.

I appreciate that Hall wants to be a leader, but don't do it through the media.

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Here in the local paper they had a good article on Hall and how Shanahan came to him asking him to step up and become a leader. He talked about how in the past he played for the money and the fame but now plays for the team and the team wins. I have looked and cannot find a link but sometime their on line stuff is a week behind.

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There's a difference between being belligerent and being pissed off. He's pissed off that they lost and just lashing out. I don't blame him. If I am JH I like what I am hearing.

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[quote=firstdown;736605]Here in the local paper they had a good article on Hall and how Shanahan came to him asking him to step up and become a leader. He talked about how in the past he played for the money and the fame but now plays for the team and the team wins. I have looked and cannot find a link but sometime their on line stuff is a week behind.[/quote]

Try to look through Washington Post archives, I remember reading the article from there.. I would try and find it for you, but I have a class at 2.. So

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It's still 59s D but atleast Hall wants to win. They should be embarrassed with that debacle yesterday. 27-10 and lose at home. That's on the D

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Dear D. Hall,

STFU. I know Ray Lewis and you sir are no Ray Lewis. If you want to be Ray Lewis I'd recommend you make more big plays and play like D. Revis.

Sincerely yours,

saden1

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An average cover corner who wants it to be "his" defense? C'mon Hall. You have a nose for being around the ball and you make plays but you're not Deion Sanders, Darrell Green or Rod Woodson. But he does make a good point. Why was Buchanon and Doherty cover Johnson when the game is on the line? Terrible coaching.

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It's one thing to be a leader, and a different thing to be disruptive. I think this statement from Hall borders on or goes over the line of disruptive behavior:

[QUOTE]Asked whether Haslett would be receptive to his demand, Hall stood firm.

“It don’t matter what he say,” Hall said. “This [is] my team. This [is] my defense. I’m gonna follow the receivers around. If we’ve got to do that to win games, that’s what I’m gonna do.”[/QUOTE]

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What is Ray like Saden? Is he a nice guy?

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2 games played this season, 2 games in a row d hall says they had the perfect call but (insert player name) screwed up the execution.

d hall overrates d hall.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;736622]What is Ray like Saden? Is he a nice guy?[/quote]

I heard he has a killer personality.:)

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I agree with hall that our Nickel corner shouldn't be playing on the best receiver in the league on a crucial fourth down play.

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He's pissed, blowing off steam, etc. No big deal.

I like how when guys get fired up, we tell them to shut up. When they don't say anything, we blast them for not having enough fire. :doh:

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[quote=Player_HTTR;736634]I heard he has a killer personality.:)[/quote]

Actually, he is the kind of person guys would kill to be friends with.

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[quote=Mattyk;736650]He's pissed, blowing off steam, etc. No big deal.

I like how when guys get fired up, we tell them to shut up. When they don't say anything, we blast them for not having enough fire. :doh:[/quote]

This.

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Dear all Redskins fans,

As frustrated as you are that we lost, imagine what the D feels like. I invite all of YOU to STFU(as someone else so eloquently put it). Thank you D Hall for caring.

Sincerely,

Not saden1

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[quote=GridIron26;736602]This is definitely not Hall's defense, there's still Orakpo and Fletcher to consider.. However, there's no questions that Hall's becoming a leader.. There was even an article explaining that Shanahan had a meeting wtih Hall, and asked him to be a leader..

[/quote]

Agree, this is without a doubt Fletchers defense and God forbid if he were to go down right now it would be a toss up between Daniels and Orakpo. At this point though I think Landry is a lot closer to taking over as the teams defensive leader. At the very least Landry is the leader in the secondary.

Still corners are getting danerously close in personallity to their wide reciever counterparts. Actually if anything they've surpassed them. Part of that might be because a new breed of receiver has emerged. I rarely hear T.O like quotes from Andre, Calvin, Fitz, Boldin, and Wayne, even our own Santana stays quiet. We also saw Randy Moss not lowering himself to trash talk when Revis called him a slouch. All the while it seems like more and more trash talk is coming from corners these days.

I kind of like that Hall wants to do this, but he probably could have gone about it more tactfully. You don't really need people to know this on Monday, rather let the week develop so by the time the game rolls around on Sunday the announcers know and inform everybody watching. Then again how about we just go do it without any talk. Send them on a Hall-iday without making a big fuss to the media.

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[quote=Mattyk;736650]He's pissed, blowing off steam, etc. No big deal.

I like how when guys get fired up, we tell them to shut up. When they don't say anything, we blast them for not having enough fire. :doh:[/quote]Yeah, agreed.

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one thing I didn't like is when hall said "One guy caught a pass on my side". That is basically a low blow to Rogers and Buch..

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[quote=Mattyk;736650]He's pissed, blowing off steam, etc. No big deal.

I like how when guys get fired up, we tell them to shut up. When they don't say anything, we blast them for not having enough fire. :doh:[/quote]

It's all Doughty's fault you know.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;736651]Actually, he is the kind of person guys would kill to be friends with.[/quote]

To Shay,

This would be a better description.

Thanks,

Player_HTTR

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[quote=GridIron26;736602]This is definitely not Hall's defense, there's still Orakpo and Fletcher to consider.. However, there's no questions that Hall's becoming a leader.. There was even an article explaining that Shanahan had a meeting wtih Hall, and asked him to be a leader..

And not to mention, Hall looks like he bulked up a little bit, and improved his playings.. I hope he is having a pro-bowl season this year, it would help our defense lot..

Our front 7 looked good yesterday, pressuring Schuab almost whole game.. And our secondary didn't look good.. But we need to remember that The defense only played two games together with tthe new schemes and all.. We need to give it some time for the guys to understand everything and hopefully, the team will click and play lights out..[/quote]

Until Haslett is able to plug in anybody and still shutdown opponents, the team belongs to the players.

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[quote=GridIron26;736602]This is definitely not Hall's defense, there's still Orakpo and Fletcher to consider.. However, there's no questions that Hall's becoming a leader.. There was even an article explaining that Shanahan had a meeting wtih Hall, and asked him to be a leader..

And not to mention, Hall looks like he bulked up a little bit, and improved his playings.. I hope he is having a pro-bowl season this year, it would help our defense lot..

Our front 7 looked good yesterday, pressuring Schuab almost whole game.. And our secondary didn't look good.. But we need to remember that The defense only played two games together with tthe new schemes and all.. We need to give it some time for the guys to understand everything and hopefully, the team will click and play lights out..[/quote]


If a coach has to call a player into a meeting to ask the player to become a leader, the odds of that player becoming an effective leader are slim.

General Eisenhower did not need to call General Patton to his tent to ask General Patton to be a leader...

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we all know damn well it's not his defense, but it doesnt have to be "his defense" for him to be a leader nor does he have to be the best player on the D to be a leader. Rock was a leader on this team for years and he was not the most talented guy on the team or the most publicly vocal. i like him getting fired up though, he's mad about the game like he should be. i would be too if i were him, he should have been covering Andre... not saying that Buch did anything wrong that play, (who knows, as we don't know the play call. lord knows if he didnt come off andre to watch the underneath stuff that would've got them a first down we'd be ripping him a new asshole right now) but D Hall is our best corner and has played like it the last two game. however, i wouldnt have gone to the media like this... but my opinion of him doesnt change because of this. all this has done is made him put his money where his mouth is. he's ready for a challenge and ready to go and there's nothing wrong with that, i like it. all eyes are on him now.


on a side note, and i hate to go here... but just imagine if we had 21 back there with Laron

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Hall - Pro Bowler (proven)

Fletcher - Borderline HOFer

Landry - Pro Bowler (2011)

Orakpo - BEAST



AH-Killing Us
AC#99 - just seems to come up short every play, I root for this guy but damn

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Anyway....

D.Hall is on Lavar and Dukes right now. He's basically sticking to what he said, just clarifying a bit. He said him and Haslett are cool, they've worked together before and spoke right after the comments. He's saying he's starting to get his swag back and feels like he's capable of putting the team in a situation where they can win, and for him to not be in that situation is just frustration.

Basically he wants the game to put in the player's hands and not the coaching staff.

Said he's not stepping on anyone's toes on defense, no hard feelings, he's just getting back to playing ball like he did when he was in Atlanta.

Maybe it's just me but he's sounding like a professional who thinks this team is capable of winning.

Chris Cooley is about to be on for a full hour!! Damn, I gotta eat!

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Chris Cooley now weighing in. Saying he loved what D.Hall said and loves the fact that he has confidence. Cooley said the NFL is a world of political correctedness and sometimes guys like D.Hall get in trouble.

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[quote=12thMan;736749]Chris Cooley now weighing in. Saying he loved what D.Hall said and loves the fact that he has confidence. Cooley said the NFL is a world of political correctedness and sometimes guys like D.Hall get in trouble.[/quote]

I basically agree...he's PISSED!! Spittin' nails PISSED..I hope the entire team is. We had that game in the book and let it get away....important to remember how it felt and use it next week
If this had happened last year, what would we have had? Party in the locker room? Guys laughing, joking around. HELL, we did have that...sad

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Cooley thinks the running game will get on track. Said he's confident that things will start clicking. Great things to say about Trent Williams.

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Well, possibly more than any team in the NFL, we have the potential to improve through the season. ALL of our coaches and many of our guys are new. Our systems and terminology are new. With familiarity will come vast improvement. Things will start to "click". It should show from one week to the next as the season progresses...................I hope

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AS of right now we have the 32nd ranked Defense in game stats.. Not good, but LL and Rocky are both in the top 3 in tackles.
[url=http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2010&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1]NFL Stats: by Team Category[/url]

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[quote=Dirtbag359;736660]Agree, this is without a doubt Fletchers defense and God forbid if he were to go down right now it would be a toss up between Daniels and Orakpo. At this point though I think Landry is a lot closer to taking over as the teams defensive leader. At the very least Landry is the leader in the secondary.

Still corners are getting danerously close in personallity to their wide reciever counterparts. Actually if anything they've surpassed them. Part of that might be because a new breed of receiver has emerged. I rarely hear T.O like quotes from Andre, Calvin, Fitz, Boldin, and Wayne, even our own Santana stays quiet. We also saw Randy Moss not lowering himself to trash talk when Revis called him a slouch. All the while it seems like more and more trash talk is coming from corners these days.

I kind of like that Hall wants to do this, but he probably could have gone about it more tactfully. You don't really need people to know this on Monday, rather let the week develop so by the time the game rolls around on Sunday the announcers know and inform everybody watching. Then again how about we just go do it without any talk. Send them on a Hall-iday without making a big fuss to the media.[/quote]

You hit nails on all points. Landry is emerging player, but I really don't see him as a leader.. A leader is suppose to be a role model for the team.. But again, what do I know, I don't even know Landry and what he is like in the locker.. It would be great if Landry actually becomes one, we need his fierce on the field to spread onto our defense players..

[quote=sportscurmudgeon;736722]If a coach has to call a player into a meeting to ask the player to become a leader, the odds of that player becoming an effective leader are slim.[/quote]

You are correct.. Out of all players, I would not have expected Shanahan talked to Hall about being a leader.. However, sometimes, some players need someone to push them outside their comfortable zone and be the one.. But then, that doesn't mean it will work out great..

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[quote=skinsfaninok;736760]AS of right now we have the 32nd ranked Defense in game stats.. Not good, but LL and Rocky are both in the top 3 in tackles.
[URL="http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2010&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1"]NFL Stats: by Team Category[/URL][/quote]

We should expect it, after the way Schaub and Romo ripped our secondary apart.. I'm surprised to see Rocky being in top 3 in tackles.. If the stats really show how well Rocky is performing last two games, and continues to, then we really should start considering to extend his contract..

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[quote=FRPLG;736655]Dear all Redskins fans,

As frustrated as you are that we lost, imagine what the D feels like. I invite all of YOU to STFU(as someone else so eloquently put it). Thank you D Hall for caring.

Sincerely,

Not saden1[/quote]

I would rather see less talk, more plays from him. I don't care how he or the D feels...this is a multi-million-dollar-grown-men sport. If he's going to talk big he should play big like my man Revis....man coverage and two yards away from your face so he can ask you nicely for your lunch money.


Awful play calling by our defensive coordinator and I suspect he could find better ways to use Hall. Can Hall cover Johnson? I f'ing highly doubt it! Stop talking, go get it!