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Dirtbag59 09-21-2010 05:51 PM

Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
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Weird, whenever Mike [I][I]Vick[/I][/I] comes on the TV the dogs up here start going nuts. It's like they know him or something.[COLOR=#999999][URL="http://twitter.com/Jesus_M_Christ/status/24954461524"]2:55 PM Sep 19th[/URL]
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skinsfaninok 09-21-2010 05:53 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
LMAO Vick won't take that team to the playoffs!

Hog1 09-21-2010 05:54 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
I wonder how that conversation with Kolb is going to go???
Ahhhh......lookahere' Kevin, YOU are still my guy...MY only one.....STARTER...
BTW...Mike is gonna' just fill in for...say ....53 minutes with maybe some Wildcat shit.

skinsfaninok 09-21-2010 05:58 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
This is why the Eagirls will never win a SB, they always make dumb ass decisions.. Dawkins, McNabb, and now saying Vick is the guy, I like Mike as a quality backup but lets face it, the guy cant hit anything.. Sure he lit up detroit but I just don't trust him as a passer.

Hog1 09-21-2010 06:00 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
Donavon McNabb should be laughing his ass off right now!!!

mooby 09-21-2010 06:01 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
I completely approve of this decision. It might make them better this season, but Vick isn't their long term solution at qb and in the end it will only make things worse with Kevin Kolb.

Aka I feel it would've been better for the Eagles to put Kolb back in the lineup and actually take their lumps with him because from limited action last season it looked like he had a bright future ahead of him, instead they're stunting his mentality by naming him starting quarterback and then taking it away from him because of injury.

Dirtbag59 09-21-2010 06:06 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
Mayock speculated that it probably has more to do with Kolbs health then it does Vicks play.

Monkeydad 09-21-2010 06:07 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
I love when an opponent's plan backfires...this quickly.

Skinny Tee 09-21-2010 06:15 PM

This is pretty huge considering Reid already said Kolb would be the starter next week.

The inmates are now running the asylum in Philly. Quick fix fans are rejoicing but their long term integrity is shot. Their McNabb decision is goin to keep coming up if Kolb doesn't show behind center.

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Alvin Walton 09-21-2010 06:20 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
Dogs and cat living together...mass hysteria!

12thMan 09-21-2010 06:25 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
I suspect this was more about Kolb not feeling 100% along with Vick's stellar play of late. Anyway you look at, Kolb would have to come in and go gang busters for them to feel better about Vick being on the bench. It's the right move.

Welcome to the NFL Mr. Kolb. This sets the stage for a nice show down vs. The Iggles.

SouperMeister 09-21-2010 06:27 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
So much for the Kevin Kolb era. To be honest, I would rather face Kolb in a few weeks since Vick offers another dimension with his legs.

12thMan 09-21-2010 06:28 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
Hmmm...take that back. They're saying it's a permanent decision and it's not concussion related. Good for Reid. Bad for the Redskins.

mooby 09-21-2010 06:34 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;737180]Mayock speculated that it probably has more to do with Kolbs health then it does Vicks play.[/quote]

Oh. Damniiiiit. I wanted to be the inventor of a dicey reason as to why their plan will fail. Well then in that case, I hope Kolb gets healthy soon because I would rather face him in week 4 than Vick.

Shadowbyte 09-21-2010 06:42 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
Apparently Kolb is still experiencing headaches, this had nothing to do with Vicks recent production. However, the Eales are stupid. Thanks a million for McNabb you dip-sh*ts. I can't recall the last time a skins QB passed for 400+ yards.

Shadowbyte 09-21-2010 06:53 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
Ooops, I stand corrected. According to ESPN

"The decision to go with Vick over Kolb is a permanent move and is not concussion related, a source told ESPN NFL analyst Chris Mortensen."

WOW! Andy Reid is a moron. This guy can't make up his mind for sh*t.

Shadowbyte 09-21-2010 07:03 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
I don't believe this was Reid's decision. Another tidbit from ESPN.

[quote]After a day of film study that included coaches and [b]members of the front office[/b], Reid concluded that due to injury problems on the offensive line and Vick's mobility, Kolb was not the choice for quarterback, especially given Kolb's susceptibility to another concussion if he were constantly under duress. [/quote]

Since when did the front office personal sit in on film sessions? Jeffery Lurie has pulled a Bud Adams IMO.

skinsfan69 09-21-2010 07:18 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
There was no way they could take Vick out of the line up after his last two games. Say what you will but he's played very well. One game was against a good defense and one was against a poor one. Perhaps this time around he's more dedicated to his profession and will become a better passer. I know Marty Morningweg has coached him up. We'll see.

Longtimefan 09-21-2010 07:24 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
[quote=Skinny Tee;737187]This is pretty huge considering Reid already said Kolb would be the starter next week.

The inmates are now running the asylum in Philly. Quick fix fans are rejoicing but their long term integrity is shot. Their McNabb decision is goin to keep coming up if Kolb doesn't show behind center.

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Is Andy Reid calling any of the personell shots in Philly anymore? Strange that the Vick decision came so quickly when just two days ago he said Kolb would still be his starter.

Hog1 09-21-2010 07:41 PM

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Well...maybe Dirty 30 can get a shot or two at him without being 40 yards downfield

Dirtbag59 09-21-2010 08:03 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
[quote=Hog1;737226]Well...maybe Dirty 30 can get a shot or two at him without being 40 yards downfield[/quote]

Thats a good point. Landry might be the worlds best QB spy. He can easily match Vick stride for stride in a foot race. Force Vick to carry a ball and you can forget about it.

Still I have to admit that for once I'm actually scared of Vick. The possibility that Andy Reid has honed his passing skills is quite the prospect. Right now I just hope that it's nothing more then playing against a Green Bay prevent defense that wasn't prepared for Vick and facing a Lions team that is a long ways from competing.

Gtothearry 09-21-2010 08:12 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
Funny how Mcnabb was let go because the Eagles were going to be Kolb's team. Two weeks in and it isn't his team anymore.

Vick will explode before too long and the Eagle faithful will be calling for his head as well.

30gut 09-21-2010 08:19 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;737240]Still I have to admit that for once I'm actually scared of Vick. The possibility that Andy Reid has honed his passing skills is quite the prospect. Right now I just hope that it's nothing more then playing against a Green Bay prevent defense that wasn't prepared for Vick and facing a Lions team that is a long ways from competing.[/quote]

I used to live in ATL when Vick was in his prime and have to laugh when i heard the revisionist history in regards to Vick.
Vick was soo talented that he took his team to the NFC title game on little more then sheer athletic ability alone.
Vick was not a disciplined QB and he was still effective.

Now that he's actually trying to improve his passing and working on his craft as a QB with a competent teacher be afraid be very afriad he's much more of a threat then the Kolb lead Eagles.
[quote=Dirtbag359;737240]Thats a good point. Landry might be the worlds best QB spy. He can easily match Vick stride for stride in a foot race. Force Vick to carry a ball and you can forget about it.[/quote]
2 things:
o using Landry as a spy (or any defender for that matter) weakens the defense
that's one of the worries of dealing with Vick
o Landry might be able to hang with Vick in terms of long speed but Vick is in another league in terms of quickness and agility

Shadowbyte 09-21-2010 08:26 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;737240]Thats a good point. Landry might be the worlds best QB spy. He can easily match Vick stride for stride in a foot race. Force Vick to carry a ball and you can forget about it.

Still I have to admit that for once I'm actually scared of Vick. The possibility that Andy Reid has honed his passing skills is quite the prospect. Right now I just hope that it's nothing more then playing against a Green Bay prevent defense that wasn't prepared for Vick and facing a Lions team that is a long ways from competing.[/quote]


Me too, I was salivating at the prospect of facing Kold. Now that Vick is the starter, the game will be a lot tougher to win.

artmonkforhallofamein07 09-21-2010 08:37 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
Bring it Eagles... not worried about the dog killer.

Of course their is reason to worry about Vick, but at the same time we have the best weapon to contend with the Eagles, thier staring QB for the last 11 years.

Eagles have made a big mistake, and Kolb is going to get unhappy fast or except that he is a backup QB in the NFL.

12thMan 09-21-2010 08:51 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
I think Reid took some time, reflected on the matter, and changed his mind. Simple as that. I don't think anyone was pulling his stings. I watched nearly all of his presser today and he seemed very comfortable with the decision and explained that right now Vick is one of the hottest QBs in the NFL, with the fourth highest QB rating.

DFI 09-21-2010 08:53 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;737240]Still I have to admit that for once I'm actually scared of Vick.[/quote]

yea you should be...espically if you are a dog or a friend of his at a BD party....sorry couldn't help it

GusFrerotte 09-21-2010 09:14 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
Reid is history in a couple seasons. Vick will revert to Atlanta form soon enough and then you will have an inefficient Kolb trying to take over late in the season. Mike has upgraded his passing ability, but that isn't saying much, since his last season in ATL he barely would hit the 100 yd passing mark, trying to do his Barry Sanders impersonation. Neither is beating Detroit such a great feat, especially since the Lions did comeback.

vallin21 09-21-2010 09:23 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
Not concerened at all (although I do miss a guy like ST or Lavar who wouldn't let Vick run wild ) but Vick's accuracy is average at best, Kolb is nothing special. Thanks Andy for sending your franchise QB to us... I'll sit back and watch this Vick/Kolb experiment blow up in your face!

Mc2guy 09-21-2010 09:26 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
Has anyone remotely considered the possibility that Vick was actually changed in prison? I can tell you (not from direct experience, but through friends) that being stuck in a cell for more than a year can really change your perspective on life and on utilizing your chances. Admittedly, some guys don't change, but some really do.

I'm starting to think that he actually changed his attitude toward his career and is actually focused and trying to be a better overall player vs. just relying on his god-given ability. I see a lot of folks talking about how he's going to revert back to his "old self". I'm not so sure...this isn't just a guy who switched teams, he literally had a life changing event, and I'm starting to think he's the real deal. Of course I reserve the right to change me mind, but his decision making right now looks WAY better than I ever saw it when he was with Atlanta. He's just not making stupid throws right now.

As others have said, who would you rather play against right now, Vick or Kolb? There-in-lies the decision to stick with Vick as the starter IMO.

SirClintonPortis 09-21-2010 09:30 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
So where's that guy who pulled the race card?

Gtothearry 09-21-2010 09:46 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
[quote=Mc2guy;737260]Has anyone remotely considered the possibility that Vick was actually changed in prison? I can tell you (not from direct experience, but through friends) that being stuck in a cell for more than a year can really change your perspective on life and on utilizing your chances. Admittedly, some guys don't change, but some really do.

I'm starting to think that he actually changed his attitude toward his career and is actually focused and trying to be a better overall player vs. just relying on his god-given ability. I see a lot of folks talking about how he's going to revert back to his "old self". I'm not so sure...this isn't just a guy who switched teams, he literally had a life changing event, and I'm starting to think he's the real deal. Of course I reserve the right to change me mind, but his decision making right now looks WAY better than I ever saw it when he was with Atlanta. He's just not making stupid throws right now.

As others have said, who would you rather play against right now, Vick or Kolb? There-in-lies the decision to stick with Vick as the starter IMO.[/quote]


I don't think he has changed at all..................

Hog1 09-21-2010 09:50 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
Vick is a bad guy...bad character..like defective. He is also a very talented athlete. Prison won't change a flawed character. But it may make him NOT want to repeat similar offenses so he won't have to go back.

MTK 09-21-2010 09:53 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
From a pure football perspective (and that's all that really matters here) I agree 100% with Reid's decision.

BleedBurgundy 09-21-2010 09:53 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
I don't know but I think this makes them a better team and was the only logical decision. I mean did anyone see the ineptitude that was Kevin Kolb vs Green Bay? Vick played pretty damn well against the GB defense and they're not slouches. Last week was against Detroit, an improving team, and he put up plus 30 pts. I can't stand him because of his past but you have to admit Vick at qb makes Philly a stronger team right now. I think Reid going with Kolb could have cost him the locker room.

artmonkforhallofamein07 09-21-2010 09:56 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
Without knowing Micheal Vick personally before or after he entered prison I cannot speak to jail reforming him.

What I can agree with you on is that he seems to be taking his professional career much more serious, but at the same time only time will tell if the lessons he learned while he was in prison will have a lasting effect on him or if he will revert back to what was percieved to be a pompous, arrogant, and above the law asshole that he used to be.

It will be interesting to see what happens to MV if he does do well this year, becuase we all know that some team out there will reward him with a another decent size contract. Remember all of you, Micheal is in a contract year. Time will tell how serious he is about his career.

Hog1 09-21-2010 09:56 PM

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BTW. I do not disagree with Reid's decision either

MTK 09-21-2010 09:57 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
Vick is clearly back to his old self and the scary thing is he might be even better than he was. And he has plenty of weapons.

Shadowbyte 09-21-2010 10:00 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
[quote=Hog1;737267]Vick is a bad guy...bad character..like defective. He is also a very talented athlete. Prison won't change a flawed character. But it may make him NOT want to repeat similar offenses so he won't have to go back.[/quote]

I agree, anyone who takes joy in killing innocent animals would qualify as having a questionable character. I wouldn't stop at dogs however, I would extend that assement to those who hunt for sport also.

Mc2guy 09-21-2010 10:07 PM

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 
I wasn't even talking about the legal issues, which to me are irrelevant to Vick the football player...I'm talking about a guy who never had to work for anything on the football field (and never did). He relied on his genetic talent to cruise into a lucrative pro career. When that got taken away, I think he woke up to the reality that he's going to have to work at football from here on out.

His skills combined with a desire to better himself on the football field should scare any opposing defense. Plus, not playing for the last couple years means his football age is only like 27 from a wear and tear standpoint. Only time will tell I suppose...


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