Lorenzo Alexander
 

Anyone else scratching their heads at this guy? He starts playing offensive guard and defensive lineman... He's a special teams standout and gets downfield quick at 275lbs, and now he's a better COVERAGE guy than Andre Carter, who used to play linebacker?? I know he can hit (oh my god I've watched that kickoff hit over and over and over) but can he really play coverage better than Carter, and is he a viable long term option at OLB? Having said that I am ordering a custom LA jersey (no, not Lavar) because I am a big fan of blue collar football players, and this guy has my utmost admiration as a player.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

It should come as no surprise that Carter is bad at coverage. He couldn't make the adjustment in SF, and it's apparent he can't here. Carter does have value still at pass rushing.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

Lorenzo rules! I think he makes the whole defense better when he starts at OLB. And, yes, that is pretty amazing for a guy who was on the offensive line.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

[quote=SirClintonPortis;744183]It should come as no surprise that Carter is bad at coverage. He couldn't make the adjustment in SF, and it's apparent he can't here. Carter does have value still at pass rushing.[/quote]

Yeah, over the winter Haslett was saying that Carter would be better in our 3-4 than he was in SF. Yeah, right.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

He's my favorite player since Art Monk.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

I think this guy must have sold his soul to the devil or something.
He certainly should not be a starter in any NFL role...but he is doing well
There is something weird going on here.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

Huge fan. I litterally can not believe how good he's been in coverage. And yet once again, the kickoff hit. He must be an incredible athlete to make the transition between O-line, D-Tackle, and now outside LB, as well as special teams. I really look forward to watching him play this year, I'm rooting for him, big time.:food-smil

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

[quote=skinsnut;744194]I think this guy must have sold his soul to the devil or something.
He certainly should not be a starter in any NFL role...but he is doing well
There is something weird going on here.[/quote]

He has the instincts to play football well. That's my take.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

I believe he was scarface wasnt he?

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

The guy is remarkable. I'm sure the knock will be well he would never make any other roster, but I don't buy that. This guy works hard, has shown his value at multiple positions, and would be a strong contributed on just about any team. He's as valuable as any player we have right now

He doesn't surprise me anymore. He's just a solid all around football player.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

Classic overachiever. His versatility deffinately serves him well, it's rare to have a player that can do as many things as he can.

However, before I crown him savior, I want to see a little more of him at the LB position on a full time basis. Because of his limited experience at the position, savvy OC's will be coming at him with a variety of situations to take advantage of that inexperience. Let's see how well he handles it. He certainly can't be any worse than AC.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

[quote=SmootSmack;744216]The guy is remarkable. I'm sure the knock will be well he would never make any other roster, but I don't buy that. This guy works hard, has shown his value at multiple positions, and would be a strong contributed on just about any team. He's as valuable as any player we have right now[/quote]

I would take an entire team made up of him.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

Carlos Rogers and Lorenzo Alexander would get mega bucks in the NFL the second they hit the market. Which, pending collective bargaining, could be next season.

Most of our guys are aging "system" guys. I think those two -- and maybe Landry and Fletcher as well -- would be assets on the free agent market in any system.

Well, of course Orakpo as well, but he's still three and a half years from free agency. That's an eternity in the NFL.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

There aren't too many players out there that would have done what Alexander did to stay on the field. You figure the countless hours he put in to be up to speed on both sides of the ball. His hard work and determination has a Rudy-esque tone to it, but Alexander has the talent that Rudy did not.

He's tough as nails. Made a tackle in the 2007 Preseason against the Titans without his helmet on: [url=http://everyjoe.com/sports/lorenzo-alexanders-no-helmet-tackle/]Lorenzo Alexander’s No-Helmet Tackle « : EveryJoe - Sports and Entertainment News[/url]

And after his hit this past Sunday on a still woozy Jorrick Calvin, he's got his audition ready to be the next Terry Tate.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

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[url=http://blog.redskins.com/2010/10/06/lorenzo-alexander-discusses-aaron-rodgers/]Lorenzo Alexander Discusses Old College Pal Aaron Rodgers[/url]

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

[quote=GTripp0012;744243]Carlos Rogers and Lorenzo Alexander would get mega bucks in the NFL the second they hit the market. Which, pending collective bargaining, could be next season.

Most of our guys are aging "system" guys. I think those two -- and maybe Landry and Fletcher as well -- would be assets on the free agent market in any system.

Well, of course Orakpo as well, but he's still three and a half years from free agency. That's an eternity in the NFL.[/quote]

Do you really think Rogers would get big money? Even with all of his dropped INT's?

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

Lo Alexander is just a football player. End of discussion.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

[quote=skinsfan69;744259]Do you really think Rogers would get big money? Even with all of his dropped INT's?[/quote]
His actual job is to defend passes not to catch the ball. I think he gets paid weel but would get more if he was making those ints.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

[quote=firstdown;744266]His actual job is to defend passes not to catch the ball. I think he gets paid weel but would get more if he was making those ints.[/quote]

Catching the ball is part of his job since part of any defensive player's job is to get turnovers. He's got one part of his job down(coverage) but not the other(forcing turnovers).

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

[quote=skinsfan69;744260]Lo Alexander is just[B] a football player[/B]. End of discussion.[/quote]

:doh: Overused media jargon!

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

[quote=firstdown;744227]I would take an entire team made up of him.[/quote]

He's a classic Joe Gibbs type player, I would love a roster full of Alexander type players with his character and skills.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

I have been saying for the last couple of years, the guy just makes plays every game. Whether its special teams, DT, DE, he just ends up making a play during the game. As far as him at OLB, i think it is just as bad as Carter. Chris Wilson deserves a chance to play. He fits the role a whole hell of a lot better than those two DE's trying to play OLB. Wilson is quicker, not as bulky and can do both, rush and cover.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

^Said the same thing earlier this week. Not sure why they don't have Wilson starting and Carter/Alexander as the back-ups. Wilson already has the experience at linebacker (backing up Orakpo last year) and has shown he can handle the position, at least for now.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

Let him play OLB all season, see how he does & then give him an extension w/some starters $. If anybody deserves it it's him.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

Wilson is the question I should have raised vs Carter. I know Wilson can pass rush, but I'm not sure of his coverage ability and I've seen him over commit on running plays. I was impressed with Alexander's speed for a guy his size, though, and the fact that he doesn't give up on plays. He chased someone down the other day and that's not something you see too many guys at 270 doing...

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

If Wilson plays well at OLB, might be interesting to try him as s starter in Lorenzo's OLB spot and move Lorenzo on the inside, where his size would be appreciated. NOt knocking Rocky but he is kind of smallish to stand up to an unblocked OG.
Please keep Carter off the field except to rush the passer. He is so one dimensional it is time to get rid of him when we can find someone or two to replace him.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

[quote=EternalEnigma21;744391]Wilson is the question I should have raised vs Carter. I know Wilson can pass rush, but I'm not sure of his coverage ability and I've seen him over commit on running plays. I was impressed with Alexander's speed for a guy his size, though, and the fact that he doesn't give up on plays. He chased someone down the other day and that's not something you see too many guys at 270 doing...[/quote]

I remember he injured something trying to chase down Brian Westbrook.

I think he's like our Anthony Spencer/etc/etc. The run stuffer, etc of our D.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

Lorenzos a great player. Whats odd though is that when he first got here, he was a DT in the 4-3. Then last year he played DE and DT, then Shanahan got here and said that we're switching to the 3-4, I was like great, now Lorenzo will be one of our starting 3-4 DE's. Nope.

Apparently Shanahan and Haslett are pretty smart, and know what their doing, moving him to OLB, in a James Harrison-type role. I figured how can a DT play OLB? Apparently I was wrong, because this guy isn't a OLB, he's a football player, and, laugh if you want, but an Athlete.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

Wilson has been playing a little more and more the last few weeks if I am not mistaken.

Lorenzo is a great player, and one of the coolest Redskins players as we all have seen. Since he actually answered our questions via video message!

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

[quote=SirClintonPortis;744183]It should come as no surprise that Carter is bad at coverage. He couldn't make the adjustment in SF, and it's apparent he can't here. Carter does have value still at pass rushing.[/quote]

Carter also has no hands bro, to much tape I guess.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

Lorenzo Alexander is from Cal where he played D-Line. He is not only good football player but he is smart. I think he picked the 3-4 scheme up faster than maybe Chris Wilson. A/C is better suited to rush the passer and I like the idea of using Carter in the nickle as a pass rusher. I would also like to see Wilson rushing the passer more but he appears to get out of position more or he just does'nt have good awareness. I think Lorenzo could also move to the inside LB spot. Hey we may have blew it on Kelly, Thomas , but how about our late round pick of Kareem Moore undrafted players such as Lorenzo and Heyer. Heyer does get a few penalties but he has improved each week thus far and ZO he is now starting.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/lorenzo-alexander/lorenzo-alexander-very-comfort.html]Redskins Insider - Lorenzo Alexander 'very comfortable' with role in 3-4 defense[/url]

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

James Harrison was a practice squad player in Pittsburgh before finding his niche as an OLB in the 3-4. Not saying that Alexander is the next James Harrison, but he seems to be able to do anything coaches ask of him. Perhaps his upside at LB is higher than we think.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

[quote=Mattyk;747946][url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/lorenzo-alexander/lorenzo-alexander-very-comfort.html]Redskins Insider - Lorenzo Alexander 'very comfortable' with role in 3-4 defense[/url][/quote]

If we could find 53 players w/ his (good not great) talent and (phenomenal, off the charts) attitude, we'd be entering a new Redskins Golden Age. So glad we have actually held onto this guy!

Damn - I love this guy!!!

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

[quote=SouperMeister;747956]James Harrison was a practice squad player in Pittsburgh before finding his niche as an OLB in the 3-4. Not saying that Alexander is the next James Harrison, but he seems to be able to do anything coaches ask of him. Perhaps his upside at LB is higher than we think.[/quote]

I'm thinkin the same thing; I could see him as a starter at OLB or ILB for the next 5-6 years if healthy. Definitely should get an extension, though I know he just signed one this year.

When they first announced they were moving him to OLB I thought it was crazy simply because he's been moved around already & his original position was DT. So why not have him play DE in the 3-4? Now I can see why they put him there. It doesn't show in the D stats but in the last 2 weeks we've seen him make big plays & we've won.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

[quote=GTripp0012;744243]Carlos Rogers and Lorenzo Alexander would get mega bucks in the NFL the second they hit the market. Which, pending collective bargaining, could be next season.

Most of our guys are aging "system" guys. I think those two -- and maybe Landry and Fletcher as well -- would be assets on the free agent market in any system.

Well, of course Orakpo as well, but he's still three and a half years from free agency. That's an eternity in the NFL.[/quote]

I firmly agree with the Carlos Rogers because he is a Tarantula in coverage But Lorenzo Alexander wouldn't Net that much unless he has a monster year.

I can't Knock the guy he's a baller. Did you guys see that preseason tackle with no helmet against the titans when he like broke his head open IN THE PRESEASON. Thats the type of Players we need. If he's Successfull this season I'm Almost positive his approach to the game may rub off on the likes of Chris Wilson and hopefully PERRY RILEY. Imagine if Perry Riley develops nicely then we move Rocky to OLB and get one or two more seasons out of Fletch add-in a couple LBS in the draft maybe adalius thomas off Waivers WE could have a solid core of lbs for the next three-Four years which is our window of Opprutunity with MCNABB at the helm.

Also i believe the guy has the natural instincts to play pretty much any position short of WR or DB. He just seems comfortable at every spot. :food-smil To LA

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

[quote=Lotus;744188]Yeah, over the winter Haslett was saying that Carter would be better in our 3-4 than he was in SF. Yeah, right.[/quote]

He's actually worse is you judge by playing time.
In San Fran he went from being a back-up OLB to a starter.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

[quote=#56fanatic;744296]I have been saying for the last couple of years, the guy just makes plays every game. Whether its special teams, DT, DE, he just ends up making a play during the game. As far as him at OLB, i think it is just as bad as Carter. Chris Wilson deserves a chance to play. He fits the role a whole hell of a lot better than those two DE's trying to play OLB. Wilson is quicker, not as bulky and can do both, rush and cover.[/quote]
Wilson has made plays every time he has stepped on the field too. He may look the part of OLB more so than Alexander but, he's hasn't out played him. Alexander's awareness is outstanding.

Re: Lorenzo Alexander
 

LO #97 has earned the starting position hands down .. love the attitude that started all the way back a few years ago with the helmet-less tackle .. i still think AC #99 is a valuable asset in the pass rushing game and it's shown the last few games now that he is playing more of that role ... AC can still get the passer and LO has just been as solid as they come ... great to see this guy making plays .. HTTR ...

4-2 come Monday