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Devin Thomas is now Carolina Panther.[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81b40058/article/panthers-claim-wr-thomas-to-boost-stagnant-offense?module=HP_headlines]NFL.com news: Panthers claim WR Thomas to boost stagnant offense[/url]

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Would've liked to see him here. Would've finally liked a tall young target. Ah well.

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Wish him the best of luck. Hope this decision doesn't come back to bite us at some point.

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GTripp nightmare scenario: Jimmy Clausen and DT become a Manning/Harrison combination and dominate for 10 years. :rofl:

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Didn't take him long to find a job, the question now is, will he be willing to go to work.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;746647]GTripp nightmare scenario: Jimmy Clausen and DT become a Manning/Harrison combination and dominate for 10 years. :rofl:[/quote]

LOL you beat me to it.

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If he has some bad habits, he may have not learned his lesson geting picked up so quick. It just seems he was given a hard time. Regardless of when he was drafted, he still contributed and seemingly more valuable than Roydell Williams. A ton of money wasn't saved cutting him either.

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Is it some kind of...well kept secret how much we need a legit #1 reciever? Anybody think the Shanahan's, the other 48 coaches, scouts and front office people are unaware of this?
If DT had shown any sense over the last 3 years of being a reliable, hard working, producing starter, anybody really think he would not be starting....now?

[QUOTE=Hog1;746677]Is it some kind of...well kept secret how much we need a legit #1 reciever? Anybody think the Shanahan's, the other 48 coaches, scouts and front office people are unaware of this?
If DT had shown any sense over the last 3 years of being a reliable, hard working, producing starter, anybody really think he would not be starting....now?[/QUOTE]

Exactly. I am all for clearing out anyone they don't see fitting in to their scheme. At least those who stay will be onboard, and we will have honest evaluations going forward.

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[quote=Hog1;746677]Is it some kind of...well kept secret how much we need a legit #1 reciever? Anybody think the Shanahan's, the other 48 coaches, scouts and front office people are unaware of this?
If DT had shown any sense over the last 3 years of being a reliable, hard working, producing starter, anybody really think he would not be starting....now?[/quote]

This is the thing. When you watch other teams toying around with the likes of James Jones and Jordy Nelson you wonder if a player is just not being utilized.

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YOU are correct CRR. This team has wasted way to much money and time on guys that should not have been aquired....AND then waiting forever for the "never to come" pay off. It is SERIOUSLY refreshing that the new regime can cut ties, walk away with the "come bust your ass and maybe you can be a proud Redskin" philosphy for he next candidate..........
Shanny talks continuosly of "building something here" type jargon...Love it!

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Well I guess we all will get to see if we were right or wrong pretty soon.

He starts and shines= we screwed up.
He starts and doesn't see the ball thrown his way= SSDD.

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So they signed Devin Thomas "to boost stagnant offense" ?

Good luck with that Panthers.

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[quote=Hog1;746683]YOU are correct CRR. This team has wasted way to much money and time on guys that should not have been aquired....AND then waiting forever for the "never to come" pay off. It is SERIOUSLY refreshing that the new regime can cut ties, walk away with the "come bust your ass and maybe you can be a proud Redskin" philosphy for he next candidate..........
Shanny talks continuosly of "building something here" type jargon...Love it![/quote]

The same may be said about McNabb.:duel:

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[quote=diehard;746682]This is the thing. When you watch other teams toying around with the likes of James Jones and Jordy Nelson you wonder if a player is just not being utilized.[/quote]

I wonder the same thing, but with DT...how many years does he get? I mean we have done this and done this with players with HUGE deals that never come to fruition. I REALLY liked DT and was excited when they drafted him. Damn disappointed he didn't work out.
That is why a guy like Shanny is SO damn valuable. I would keep the bastard forever hoping he would get it. I don't think emotion is part of the equation for MS. AND it should not be or?????? YOU have the Redskins roster problems.
AND finally it is....ridiculous that I as a fan, (even if I was an exceptionally astute fan) am qualified in ANY way to make those decisions.

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[quote=diehard;746667]If he has some bad habits, he may have not learned his lesson geting picked up so quick. It just seems he was given a hard time. [B]Regardless of when he was drafted, he still contributed and seemingly more valuable than Roydell Williams.[/B] A ton of money wasn't saved cutting him either.[/quote]

I just don't understand them keeping Williams or Galloway over DT. But I guess the coaches have their reasons.

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[quote=diehard;746689]The same may be said about McNabb.:duel:[/quote]

Kinda confused? McNabb is producing. McNabb showed up to OTA's. McNabb practiced all preseason. At the end of the day McNabb busts his butt and gets the job done. I guess your refering to the same thing could be said about Thomas also?

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I am with you Skins, but the vets paid their dues and obviously showed up to practice and worked hard. Shanny is going to build something, the thing is he didn't have a solid foundation to begin with, and it will take time. He acquired Donovan, but before that, all he had was Cooley, Portis, and Moss on offense, with a crappy line, and no complimentary Wrs to help Moss out. Armstrong is a start, but we need two more Wrs,(at least one more), a couple guards, and a tackle. The D we need linemen and a few DBs.

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[quote=Hog1;746691]I wonder the same thing, but with DT...how many years does he get? I mean we have done this and done this with players with HUGE deals that never come to fruition. I REALLY liked DT and was excited when they drafted him. Damn disappointed he didn't work out.
That is why a guy like Shanny is SO damn valuable. I would keep the bastard forever hoping he would get it. I don't think emotion is part of the equation for MS. AND it should not be or?????? YOU have the Redskins roster problems.
AND finally it is....ridiculous that I as a fan, (even if I was an exceptionally astute fan) am qualified in ANY way to make those decisions.[/quote]

I think I would have the same problem. I will say though with DT, I felt it was either the position coach Hixon or DT himself. We bring in a whole new position coach (that alot of people were happy to have), new HC, and new scheme, DT still didn't pan out. So basically I gave up on him when he was moved up the roster. Clearly he's doing something wrong.

But Gibbs was the same way he would label players starters and there was no challenging for the roster spot it seemed. Loyal to the end I guess. This new coaching staff is impressing me all the time. You either perform or your gone. There is little time to wait for a player to "get it."

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[quote=SBXVII;746706]I think I would have the same problem. I will say though with DT, I felt it was either the position coach Hixon or DT himself. We bring in a whole new position coach (that alot of people were happy to have), new HC, and new scheme, DT still didn't pan out. So basically I gave up on him when he was moved up the roster. Clearly he's doing something wrong.

[B]But Gibbs was the same way he would label players starters and there was no challenging for the roster spot it seemed[/B]. Loyal to the end I guess. This new coaching staff is impressing me all the time. You either perform or your gone. There is little time to wait for a player to "get it."[/quote]

Well, Joe2 during his tenure help us regain some respect, putting us in the road to recovery, provided much needed leadership, etc. BUT Joe2......was a shadow of Joe1. He, Casserly, and Bethard were unequaled in player aquisition

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DT=DJ v 2.0

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[quote=skinster;746711]DT=DJ v 2.0[/quote]????

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[quote=Hog1;746710]Well, Joe2 during his tenure help us regain some respect, putting us in the road to recovery, provided much needed leadership, etc. BUT Joe2......was a shadow of Joe1. He, Casserly, and Bethard were unequaled in player aquisition[/quote]


Joe2 really didn't do much. Yeah 2 playoff appearances, but we got smoked in those. His drafts were horrible for the most part. Some nice hits like Cooley, and later Rogers, but misses mostly. I still don't understand his last draft or was it his next to last draft where he got 3 RBs when we were set with CP Betts and Rock, and we sorely needed new linemen.

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I have a perfect example of how a scheme and how a guy is used is HUGE for receivers...

Brandon Lloyd.

What an insane year he is having... ridiculous thus far... :eek:

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[quote=Hog1;746710]Well, Joe2 during his tenure help us regain some respect, putting us in the road to recovery, provided much needed leadership, etc. BUT Joe2......was a shadow of Joe1. He, Casserly, and Bethard were unequaled in player aquisition[/quote]

I don't think people realize how many misses Gibbs 1 had with player acquisitions. They just gave themselves a lot more opportunities which allows you the luxury of more mistakes. Just like what the Pats do

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[quote=SmootSmack;746722]I don't think people realize how many misses Gibbs 1 had with player acquisitions. They just gave themselves a lot more opportunities which allows you the luxury of more mistakes. Just like what the Pats do[/quote]


Desmond Howard, Jamie Morris?

Ahhh....what could have been if Timmy Smith had remained clean and sober!

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[quote=Hail to the Redskins;746719]I have a perfect example of how a scheme and how a guy is used is HUGE for receivers...

Brandon Lloyd.

What an insane year he is having... ridiculous thus far... :eek:[/quote]Speaking of players not 100% dedicated to being the best they can be as Redskins.

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DT = Dwayne Jarrett experience all over again...what are the panthers thinking?

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[quote=SmootSmack;746722]I don't think people realize how many misses Gibbs 1 had with player acquisitions. They just gave themselves a lot more opportunities which allows you the luxury of more mistakes. Just like what the Pats do[/quote]
I.......don't

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[quote=tootergray34;746809]DT = Dwayne Jarrett experience all over again...what are the panthers thinking?[/quote]

Not sure about that. Thomas isn't carrying 2 DWIs with him

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[quote=Hog1;746819]I.......don't[/quote]

Bob Slater, Tory Nixon, Walter Murray, Wally Kleine, Raphel Cherry, Carl Powell, Andre Johnson (granted he was post Gibbs 1 but during Casserly)...

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I am an unabashed St. Gibbs fan, but why does he get all the credit for the draft gems during the first campaign? It's like people forgot how absolutely amazing Bobby Beathard was.

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I was disgusted yesterday listening to the Sports Reporter and how they were just straight out bitching about DT being cut and saying how DT gets cut but AH gets "coddled".

I wish DT luck, Carolina is just not a good team and they need to go into major rebuilding mode.

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[quote=Ruhskins;746883]I was disgusted yesterday listening to the Sports Reporter and how they were just straight out bitching about DT being cut and saying how DT gets cut but AH gets "coddled".

I wish DT luck, Carolina is just not a good team and they need to go into major rebuilding mode.[/quote]

Had DT made a name for himself as a major player in this league with any kind of trade value, I think we would have coddled him as well. Unfortunately most unproven wideouts are like lottery scratch-offs.

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[quote=dgack;746886]Had DT made a name for himself as a major player in this league with any kind of trade value, I think we would have coddled him as well. Unfortunately most unproven wideouts are like lottery scratch-offs.[/quote]

Agreed. I mean the comparison was just stupid, even one of the other guys in that show was saying how it was ridiculous to say that AH was "coddled" let alone bringing Haynesworth into the conversation. I swear, they just bring him up for no f'ing reason. Ugh, I hate that show!! (yeah yeah, I don't know why I even turned it on).

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Devin Thomas is either going to sink or swim in Carolina, nothing in between. They have no choice but to throw him out there and use his talent in making plays. This is a desperate signing for a desperate team. They have no names in their receiver corps aside from Steve Smith, who is questionable for Week 7 as it is. And to top it off, they have 2 inept quarterbacks, and if Tony Pike gets any snaps during the bye week, he could be starting come Week 7.

Devin Thomas was given plenty of chances here in Washington to establish himself. He rubbed Shanny the wrong way and never got out of the doghouse. He could very well be another stud receiver that the Redskins blew their chance on. However, considering no one (The Pats traded back for Deion Branch for pete's sake) wanted to take a chance on him, I don't see it happening that way.

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Well, at least Thomas will be closer to his honeybun Fantasia.

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[quote=SmootSmack;746822]Not sure about that. Thomas isn't carrying 2 DWIs with him[/quote]

As far as wasted potential, Jarrett and Thomas are likely very similar ON the field.

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[quote=BDBohnzie;746894]Devin Thomas is either going to sink or swim in Carolina, nothing in between. They have no choice but to throw him out there and use his talent in making plays. This is a desperate signing for a desperate team. They have no names in their receiver corps aside from Steve Smith, who is questionable for Week 7 as it is. And to top it off, they have 2 inept quarterbacks, and if Tony Pike gets any snaps during the bye week, he could be starting come Week 7.

Devin Thomas was given plenty of chances here in Washington to establish himself. He rubbed Shanny the wrong way and never got out of the doghouse. He could very well be another stud receiver that the Redskins blew their chance on. However, considering no one (The Pats traded back for Deion Branch for pete's sake) wanted to take a chance on him, I don't see it happening that way.[/quote]

Actually,from what I understand,the Patriots had put in a claim for D.Thomas,but Carolina had dibs on claiming him 1st.

In other words...If he wasn't playing for Carolina,he would be a Patriot now...
Then the Patriots went a head and traded for Branch for the 4th round pick.

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[quote=Buster;746904]As far as wasted potential, Jarrett and Thomas are likely very similar ON the field.[/quote]

True