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Brett Favre has 2 [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5726694"]ankle fractures [/URL]and he might not play next week. I know this has nothing to do with the Skins and everybody is sick of talking about him but we all know Favre will always be a hot topic as long as he is playing.

The thing I really want to talk about is why doesn't he sit? If any other starting quarterback had 2 ankle fractures and was obviously not playing well, there'd be no doubt he'd sit out at least a week to get healthier. Because an injured player like Favre is clearly not the same as the Favre we saw last season. It's pretty obvious he'd be hurting the team because he's just not young enough to the point where he can still be effective while playing with injuries.

Imo, if he plays, it's about one thing, and one thing only. It definitely won't be about helping the team and trying to win, it would be about keeping his starting streak alive. If Childress is smart he will do the right move and put Tavaris Jackson in, because it's obvious Brett Favre is not playing at a good level right now. And if Favre truly wanted to help the team win, he'd put aside his ego for once, and take a week off so he can get healthier and come back fine.

And I am the only one who noticed against Green Bay that when Favre threw a pick, he limped and hobbled off the field like he was done for the season, but when he threw that touchdown pass that was called back in the final minute, he ran around jumping for joy like it was 1998 out there.

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He just texted me a pic of his stress fracture....

Wouldn't be surprised if he comes in for one series to keep his streak intact and then he'll sit

Interesting observation in your last paragraph mooby, hadn't noticed that

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Yeah, it is pretty obvious at this point that he is playing just to keep the streak alive. I believe it is truly the only reason why we have to go through the drama every offseason about whether he can play or not. Not because he wants to, or because he needs the money, or because the Vikings/Packers/Jets need him, it's because he wants to start all 16 games.

There is no doubt that what he has done over his career has been remarkable. The fact that he could play a gillion games in a row shows that he is tough. But even Cal Ripken sat at one point. This thing needs to end and soon if the Vikings are to have a chance to get back in the race. They were pretty much a playoff team when Jackson was a starter two years ago. If Favre takes a couple weeks to get sound, Minnesota leans on their running game and defense to get them through and Favre can come back at even 80% they would still have a shot to win the North. It's not like any one of those teams is a real powerhouse that will be running away with it.

In the end, Favre will probably play through it, play poorly and ride off into the sunset looking washed up. If the guy had true pride, he would sit until he could play, then go at it like hell in the 2nd half of the season.

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[quote=mooby;752306]Brett Favre has 2 [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5726694"]ankle fractures [/URL]and he might not play next week. I know this has nothing to do with the Skins and everybody is sick of talking about him but we all know Favre will always be a hot topic as long as he is playing.

The thing I really want to talk about is why doesn't he sit? If any other starting quarterback had 2 ankle fractures and was obviously not playing well, there'd be no doubt he'd sit out at least a week to get healthier. Because an injured player like Favre is clearly not the same as the Favre we saw last season. It's pretty obvious he'd be hurting the team because he's just not young enough to the point where he can still be effective while playing with injuries.

Imo, if he plays, it's about one thing, and one thing only. It definitely won't be about helping the team and trying to win, it would be about keeping his starting streak alive. If Childress is smart he will do the right move and put Tavaris Jackson in, because it's obvious Brett Favre is not playing at a good level right now. And if Favre truly wanted to help the team win, he'd put aside his ego for once, and take a week off so he can get healthier and come back fine.

And I am the only one who noticed against Green Bay[B] that when Favre threw a pick, he limped and hobbled off the field like he was done for the season, but when he threw that touchdown pass that was called back in the final minute, he ran around jumping for joy like it was 1998 out there[/B].[/quote]

Well, to be honest, I thought he was hobbling a little when he was celebrating the called-back TD. However, I don't mean that to undermine your point, because I was paying attention in the first place to whether he was in fact hobbling at that point because I was convinced by game's end that he was playing up the ankle issue for all it was worth. That he would do such a thing is in complete concert with the Favre we've gotten to know in the past few years. Sure, the news on the stress fractures seems to make the hobbling more real. But I'm guessing more than a few people similarly thought he was exaggerating a little bit (his scrambling during that final drive didn't seem too affected by the ankle), which would be more evidence of just how far public perception of him has plunged since 2007.

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First play of the game, handoff to All Day.

Then it's all Tarvaris Jackson all day long. It will be interesting to see if he's improved.

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It's time for him to give it a permanent rest. There's nothing for him to prove by continuing to play.

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Peyton Manning needs to play 6 more seasons(98 games) without a missed start to catch Favre.

Also according to Wikipedia, if there are games with replacement players, he could lose his streak like Dan Marino did.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_consecutive_starts_by_a_quarterback_%28NFL%29]Most consecutive starts by a quarterback (NFL) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

It doesn't matter if he sits or not, the media will talk about it uncontrollably, and I will ignore every bit of it. Sick of Favre.

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[quote=BringBackJoeT;752316]Well, to be honest, I thought he was hobbling a little when he was celebrating the called-back TD. However, I don't mean that to undermine your point, because I was paying attention in the first place to whether he was in fact hobbling at that point because I was convinced by game's end that he was playing up the ankle issue for all it was worth. That he would do such a thing is in complete concert with the Favre we've gotten to know in the past few years. Sure, the news on the stress fractures seems to make the hobbling more real. But I'm guessing more than a few people similarly thought he was exaggerating a little bit (his scrambling during that final drive didn't seem too affected by the ankle), which would be more evidence of just how far public perception of him has plunged since 2007.[/quote]

I know I exaggerated it in my last paragraph above, but it definitely did seem like he was milking it so he could get some pity. I mean after his picks the way he walked off the field made it seem he could barely stand, but after that called back touchdown I did seem him running around, yes he was hobbling slightly, but he was running around and jumping up and down like he always does.

I can understand the pain of having 2 fractures in his ankle and I'm sure that hurt like hell, but he's not going to win any popularity points when he runs around out there like he did after that td pass that was incomplete. Like I said if he truly wants to help the team, he'll sit this one out. His streak is long enough, it's an amazing accomplishment, but when you get to the point where you care about your streak more than helping the team that's when it's time to end.

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[quote=SmootSmack;752312][B]He just texted me a pic of his stress fracture....
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Wouldn't be surprised if he comes in for one series to keep his streak intact and then he'll sit

Interesting observation in your last paragraph mooby, hadn't noticed that[/quote]

i heard it was a broken "BONE"... harharharharharharhar! :food-smil

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I hope he doesn't play. So tired of Farve and his drama.

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Yeah he was jumping around on the Harvin play, but with a serious limp

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The real question is: Is Favre at 25% > T Jack at 100%

That's essentially what Childress is saying.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;752657]The real question is: Is Favre at 25% > T Jack at 100%

That's essentially what Childress is saying.[/quote]

Jackson did perform well for a stretch once Frerotte went down. Maybe they'll be lucky and get him while he's hot.

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I'm betting he plays. He can take a shot to help with the pain. He's still their best QB on the roster.

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[quote=Mattyk;752659]I'm betting he plays. He can take a shot to help with the pain. He's still their best QB on the roster.[/quote]

By how much? His accuracy is off and he's a lock to get hit. Those hits will make it worse for him.

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[quote=Mattyk;752659]I'm betting he plays. He can take a shot to help with the pain. He's still their best QB on the roster.[/quote]

I really think that if you took the names off of the jerseys, you go with T Jack in this case. yeah, he's no star but Favre is not the Favre of last year.

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Never been a Favre guy and every year his retirement talk annoys the hell out of me. However, I've found myself (of similar age..not quite that old) rooting for the old guy. He's looking real old about right now too. If his streak ends this week, like him or hate him, you gotta give it up for this guy and the streak. It's really remarkable to think about how long he's played, every week and never missed a start.

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How in the hell are we even discussing someone with two fractures in their ankle playing in an NFL game? Is an injured and very mediocre Brett Favre that much better than T. Jackson?

Edit: misspelling...oops.

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[quote=12thMan;752687]How in the hell are we even discussing someone with two fractures in they're ankle playing in an NFL game? Is an injured and very mediocre Brett Favre that much better than T. Jackson?[/quote]

Peter King has a quote from an orthopedic surgeon that said (paraphrasing) that what favre has is technically a stress fracture but is closer to a severely sprained ankle. The second "fracture" is a bone chip on his heel. Surgeon went on to say he can get pain killing shots for both and that if it were a playoff game, almost any qb would be a go with the same injuries...

I think people build this up as a way to further the Brett Favre mythos a little more. After all, he's the iron man gunslinger just going to go out,sling it and have fun out there.

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[quote=12thMan;752687]How in the hell are we even discussing someone with two fractures in they're ankle playing in an NFL game? Is an injured and very mediocre Brett Favre that much better than T. Jackson?[/quote]

Honestly, if anyone in the league would be tough/stupid enough to play with this injury, it would be Favre.

I don't think the coaches decide if he plays or not in Minnesota...I'm thinking it's Brett's way or no way. THEY crawled down to his house desperate, so he has the power up there.

Since he hasn't been ruled out yet, I expect him to start the game, maybe play the first quarter or two to keep the streak alive, then he'll sit. It would not be the first time that exact same situation has happened in his career. I remember that happening in GB. Favre got hurt. Rodgers came in and got hurt. Next week, Favre started the game with a serious injury.

I remember it because I had Favre in fantasy and got burned.

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[quote=Buster;752736]Honestly, if anyone in the league would be tough/stupid enough to play with this injury, it would be Favre.

I don't think the coaches decide if he plays or not in Minnesota...I'm thinking it's Brett's way or no way. THEY crawled down to his house desperate, so he has the power up there.

Since he hasn't been ruled out yet, I expect him to start the game, maybe play the first quarter or two to keep the streak alive, then he'll sit. It would not be the first time that exact same situation has happened in his career. I remember that happening in GB. Favre got hurt. Rodgers came in and got hurt. Next week, Favre started the game with a serious injury.

I remember it because I had Favre in fantasy and got burned.[/quote]

I don't know if I see Favre starting just to keep a streak alive. If he starts, i think he'll try to finish it.

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I think they're blowing the severity of his injury out of proportion in order to make all of his wrangler wearing sycophants ooh and aah at his legendary toughness. It's all about marketing.

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[quote=Mattyk;752659]I'm betting he plays. He can take a shot to help with the pain. He's still their best QB on the roster.[/quote]


Without a doubt he's the best of their QB's, the question on the minds of many is, should he be the QB starting for the Vikes at this particular time?

Favre needs to concentrate on getting his body healed, I certainly hope it's not something like the streak that's keeping him alive.

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[quote=Longtimefan;752750]Without a doubt he's the best of their QB's, the question on the minds of many is, should he be the QB starting for the Vikes at this particular time?

Favre needs to concentrate on getting his body healed, I certainly hope it's not something like the streak that's keeping him alive.[/quote]

Fractures take a good 4-6 weeks to heal up. Taking a week or two off isn't really going to help him. If he can tough it out I would want him in there.

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This continues to end badly for Brett...sexual harrassment and now the streak...to go along with a super poor year stats and record wise. Not good

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Bet Randy Moss will wish he was back on the other side of the field this weekend

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Hopefully this is the year which makes Favre retired for good...especially if the streak is broken, he has little motivation to return next year.

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[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5740302]Minnesota Vikings coach Brad Childress leaning toward holding quarterback Brett Favre out, report says - ESPN[/url]

I wonder if Favre would fight it if Chilly told him he was going to start Jackson this week. Or if he would simply accept it and move on. It is a huge streak, but I believe it should've been over when Favre had that torn bicep in his throwing arm with the Jets. Everybody could tell he wasn't effective, and it should've been diagnosed from the outset and if it had they would've sat him down that season.

If they do start Favre and then switch to Jackson after one series I will lose what little respect I have left for Favre. Just let it end. Nobody's gonna break it. Everybody already recognizes it for what it is. Be a bigger man and sit down for the team.

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They could use Jackson's mobility. Defenses are just teeing up on Favre because they know the players will catch Favre from behind.

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He plays, he is toast, simple as that. The Vikings FO must be a bunch of frigging morons, for thinking they could rely on Favre to get them to the SB the way his last few years in GB went. Yeah I know he got the Pack to the NFC title game his last year, but the two seasons before then he was crap. Brett needs to heal up and maybe come back later on. I know their season is going in the tank, but if he gets really nailed he will be placed on IR and lights out in December. Idiots got rid of Sage, for Jackson. Shoot, they were better off retaining Gus. Tavaris sucks.

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From what I'd heard, Favre's injury is something that apparently most QBs could go and play on. So if he doesn't start it may be under the guise of health but in reality it may be more than that