Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss
 

The mcnabb of 2004/05 would found a way to seal the win for his team but it's been evident since the beginning of the month that he is no longer the player he used to be. Too many interceptions and he is not throwing as many TD passes. He has been bailed out by the defense in the Eagles Game, Packers Game, and the Bears game. I wasn't expcting to be benched with the team only down 6 for Rex Grossman but he is clearly not the same guy. This team is damm lucky to be 4-4 because they could easily be 2-6.

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Um... Did you see the OL today?

McNabb benched for Rex in 4th qtr. New Era is here
 

Now I know we all argued about it last week, but Donovan McNabb just got benched in favor of Rex Grossman.

I know there will be a big debate, but obviously Shanahan and company has saw enough of McNabb and know that they need to make a QB change now, while the team still has a chance to make the playoffs.

I know Rex's first play as the starter resulted in a fumble when he was hit that was returned for a TD, but you can't really blame him because the line has been bad all day.

Regardless, it seems as though the Grossman era is now here in Washington.

I respect the decision that the coaches have made and will now be a Rex Grossman supporter. Maybe Sexy Rexxy saves the season??

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Grossman isn't going to continue as the starter, c'mon

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ol = epic fail!!!!!!!

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mcnabb is a bum and is the sole reason for this loss, you throw into triple coverage when all we have to do is try and run out the clock and then on 4th and 10 he stands in the pocket for 5+ seconds takes a sack and doesnt even give the team a chance. he sucks, send him back to philly.

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Lmfao what a retarded thread. Our OL got owned today and we had no run game ! Did u watch the game?

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[quote=Mattyk;754339]Grossman isn't going to continue as the starter, c'mon[/quote]

At this point can he do any worse? McNabb is simply missing too many easy routine plays. I think he should be sat down. This isn't a playoff team anyway. But on the last drive Kyle S needs some blame shifted his way too. Gotta run the ball there.

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The O-Line was so pathetic it didnt matter who the QB was.
Do you even watch the game?

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Benching McNabb with a chance to win in favor of GROSSMAN entering a bye was a horrible decision....easily the worst Shanny has made this year....way to create more unneeded controversy...I guess the Haynesworth drama was not enough...Now we need to deal with a controversy that is ridiculous.
Grossman isn't even the 3rd best QB on the team....and I forget who the 3rd guy is.

You let McNabb win the game or lose it.
Now, he may even question wanting to be with the Skins for a contract extension

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[quote=SolidSnake84;754334]Now I know we all argued about it last week, but Donovan McNabb just got benched in favor of Rex Grossman.

I know there will be a big debate, but obviously Shanahan and company has saw enough of McNabb and know that they need to make a QB change now, while the team still has a chance to make the playoffs.

I know Rex's first play as the starter resulted in a fumble when he was hit that was returned for a TD, but you can't really blame him because the line has been bad all day.

Regardless, it seems as though the Grossman era is now here in Washington.

I respect the decision that the coaches have made and will now be a Rex Grossman supporter. Maybe Sexy Rexxy saves the season??[/quote]


You respect the decision and the skins was only down 6???????

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@SportsFanatic and Hail2theSkins

You are absolutely wrong. McNabb is not the reason we lost this game. Even the announcers said it at the end; you could have any quarterback in the league back there and they would have done zilch behind our oline. They got absolutely manhandled today.

This just pains me because this is the exact same thing people said about campbell when he was here. Obviously he wasn't the greatest quarterback, but every single loss he took the blame, even when the offensive line was essentially standing aside and giving the defense free shots on him. There is no way to win with an offensive line playing like they did today, and further cements the case that we have to build our line with our #1 draft pick next april.

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[quote=Mattyk;754339]Grossman isn't going to continue as the starter, c'mon[/quote]

I would have said that too, but i have no idea what to think after what we just saw. I mean w 2 mins left, no timeouts and down by 6 would you have ever thought McNabb would have benched?

In my opinion the benching of McNabb at that point in the game was the dumber then when Gibbs called 2 time outs back to back. Especially considering how the line had played. I have no idea what to think right now.

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[quote=skinsfan69;754353]At this point can he do any worse? McNabb is simply missing too many easy routine plays. I think he should be sat down. This isn't a playoff team anyway. But on the last drive Kyle S needs some blame shifted his way too. Gotta run the ball there.[/quote]

First play he got hit and fumbled, so yeah he probably can do worse.

Regroup over the bye, get McNabb coached up, and move forward.

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Bout time. Give him two weeks to prepare and instantly our WRs will be better. Dude got a completion to Galloway! Grossman with Kyle is like Todd Collins with Saunders. Sexy is back!

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If Shanahan had done this at some other point in the game, then MAYBE you could put some rational behind it, but this was ridiculous.

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[quote=skinsnut;754355]Benching McNabb with a chance to win in favor of GROSSMAN entering a bye was a horrible decision....easily the worst Shanny has made this year....way to create more unneeded controversy...I guess the Haynesworth drama was not enough...Now we need to deal with a controversy that is ridiculous.
Grossman isn't even the 3rd best QB on the team....and I forget who the 3rd guy is.

You let McNabb win the game or lose it.
Now, he may even question wanting to be with the Skins for a contract extension[/quote]

A real head scratcher for sure, I don't get it either.

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I will never forget this statement from Joe Theismann

"As a NFL QB you don't have to be the reason your team won the game, but you damm sure can't be the reason your team lost the game"

And Mcnabb was the reason

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we do not have any WRs and no O-line what do you want him to do.....peyton manning would just quit if he had to play with this team

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And no way, there is a zero percent chance grossman starts the next game.

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[quote=SportsFanatic;754356]You respect the decision and the skins was only down 6???????[/quote]

I respect the decision that the coaching staff has made because they obviously know this team and its personnel better than you or I do.

I'm not a guy that likes to fan the flames of controversy, so i made the statement that I did because i wanted to point out that I will support the team and the decisions they make. I'm not going to create controversy by saying that benching McNabb was a bad move, or by saying that i know for a fact that Rex is the better option.

I am saying that i trust them to make the right decision, and that by inserting Grossman, maybe they believe that he can run the offense better and gives this team a better chance going forward.

My personal opinion is that regardless of WHO was put in to replace McNabb, now is the right time to do it because the team is at .500, and the new starter has 2 full weeks to work with the first team and sharpen up a bit. The team still has a chance to make the playoffs and a new QB might just be the spark they need. Just my 2 cents...

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Rex Grossman will certainly not be the starter.
I believe the only reason he is on the team was to mentor the other QB's and mostly mentor the WR's on where they are supposed to run routes in practice.
No one thinks Grossman is even remotely close to McNabb in terms of ability.
I don't even think Grossman can throw more than 30 yards.

This is just Shanny sticking his finger in another key player's eye...because he can.
Moron move.
Thats what blamers do...how about taking some ownership for bad blocking scheme decisions?

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[quote=SportsFanatic;754328]The mcnabb of 2004/05 would found a way to seal the win for his team but it's been evident since the beginning of the month that he is no longer the player he used to be. Too many interceptions and he is not throwing as many TD passes. He has been bailed out by the defense in the Eagles Game, Packers Game, and the Bears game. I wasn't expcting to be benched with the team only down 6 for Rex Grossman but he is clearly not the same guy. This team is damm lucky to be 4-4 because they could easily be 2-6.[/quote]

Are you seriuous!!! He is better than what we had and anything we have!!!! Yes, he made some mistakes the one TO we had today(int) but jeeeeeeeeeze our oline is beyond horrible!!!!!!!1

is our o-line better this year or last year????????????? we got owned up front but those were some freaking beast's that Detroit has up front!!!!!!!!

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[quote=takethecake;754369]And no way, there is a zero percent chance grossman starts the next game.[/quote]

Agreed.

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[B]RedskinsInsider

Shanahan reiterates that McNabb is still the starter [/B]

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RedskinsInsider

Says Grossman is more comfortable with offense and capable of running 2 min offense

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Not really words of encouragement for McNabb when Shanahan says Grossman understands the offense better, is better In the 2 minute and gave the team a better chance to win. Still think McNabb starts though

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Okay so that is just confirming what some of us thought. Grossman may not be the better QB than McNabb, but at this point, Rex knows the offense better and gives us a better chance to win. He could be the "Todd Collins" of this offense. I say give him a chance.

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By the way, Fanatic don't feel the need to start a thread right after every game

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A thread is a..........terrible thing to waste

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[quote=Mattyk;754378]RedskinsInsider

Says Grossman is more comfortable with offense and capable of running 2 min offense[/quote]

Sure...that sounds right....I was wondering what excuse he'd come up with to cover his butt....how about some humility coach?

Gibbs would have said....I'm sorry...I made a big mistake ....but Shanny takes his time to come up with an alibi to push blame to someone else.
That is the arrogance that I've been expecting to surface since he became coach...it became apparent with Haynesworth....and now this.

What a moron decision. McNabb is arguably the best talent out of 30+ offensive players....and the only one with the abilty to win that game...I know...lets bench him and put in a nobody in terms of talent.
Hell...I'd rather him run the wildcat with Banks at that point.

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Please don't start Goofy Grossman against the Eagles on MNF because I will be puking

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[quote=Hog1;754389]A thread is a..........terrible thing to waste[/quote]

Some slack is cut on game days, because the collective IQ on the board drops 100 points on game days

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I wouldn't say he's the sole reason for the loss today, but .....

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[quote=SmootSmack;754382]Not really words of encouragement for McNabb when Shanahan says Grossman understands the offense better, is better In the 2 minute and gave the team a better chance to win. Still think McNabb starts though[/quote]

I have heard more than once that DM is having trouble picking up this new scheme. I have also heard that Shanny is surprised how slow DM is at picking it up. In some ways I'm not surprised Shanny did this but I still think DM would have been the better choice.

I am happy that Shanny isnt in love with the players the way some of the previous coaches were and isnt afraid to make bold moves like this.

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[quote=SportsFanatic;754393]Please don't start Goofy Grossman against the Eagles on MNF because I will be puking[/quote]

You dint want DM you don't want Rex. John Beck?

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[quote=SolidSnake84;754384]Okay so that is just confirming what some of us thought. Grossman may not be the better QB than McNabb, but at this point, Rex knows the offense better and gives us a better chance to win. He could be the "Todd Collins" of this offense. I say give him a chance.[/quote]

Starting grossman would essentially say that the skins have given up on the playoffs. When it's time to "give another QB a chance," it's code for "time to pack it in for the year."

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Mcnabb will start guys my god

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Grossman was ineffective, but mainly ineffective because the O-line was being pushed back into him.

I'm not saying that Grossman is better than McNabb or that he should start, but his suckitude was not just him. It's a combo of him and the OL shitting things up.

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[quote=SmootSmack;754398]You dint want DM you don't want Rex. John Beck?[/quote]


Whoever the 3rd string is if it's not Mcnabb