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With all the injuries suffered last week and this week, opportunities for young players will happen. My guess is Austin and Davis will get promoted from the PS (finally) and possibly Cook. Riley will probably play since Rocky is hurt, same goes for Barnes since Rogers is hurt. I'm actually excited to see these young players show what they can do.

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I didn't think Barnes played that well today. He was in coverage on multiple passes they completed in our secondary. That's just my opinion though.

And today was the first day in which Joey Galloway actually made a positive impact for our team. I wonder if this means they will keep him in the lineup for the rest of the season rather than see what Austin has.

Armstrong didn't have too good of a game today, one of his receptions hit the ground but luckily the refs didn't catch it and the Titans were out of timeouts so they couldn't challenge it, but he also had a couple drops that we really needed.

I'm hoping these young guys get a shot to prove what they can do but if they don't I won't be suprised. With Portis likely out next week as a precaution, Torain still out, Simpson probably done for the year, I would def. be suprised if we didn't see James Davis on the roster for Minny.

We'll see what they do on the o-line too, I can see Hicks coming back next week but I'm not sure I want him in the lineup. Same with Rabach.

I guess we'll see what happens this week. There are a lot of injury questions with this team, so some decisions need to be made.

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I thought Armstrong caught that one, and there wasn't enough to overturn it anyway.

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I've said it before, but it is an unfortunate situation that injuries are what has to happen in order for young players to get a chance here. Hoping they make the best of this.

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I like the idea of getting to see some of the young guys, but I don't like seeing all the injuries today. The Oline looked better today with the mix of guys playing.

Our safeties sux BTW. Other than Landry we need some new guys back there.

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Now that Russell is hurt, I wouldn't seeing Lendy Holmes back. He's playing in the UFL for Sacramento.

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banks had a nice grab.....i like montgomery @ center over rabach. Armstrong is solid. Lets see what perry riley is made of......k. Williams is proving himself......we need to draft a RT and C in the 1st two rounds. We are moving in the right direction....also...we have more wins than all of last year!!!

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The problem is Snyder, Allen and Shanahan have a win now mentality. They need to realize that this team isn't good enough to make a Super Bowl run. Best case for this team is what? Make a wild card and go home in the first round? And that's if everything goes right. I've said this over and over but I'd get as many young guys on the field now as possible and clean house when the season is over.

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[quote=mooby;761536]I didn't think Barnes played that well today. He was in coverage on multiple passes they completed in our secondary. That's just my opinion though.

[B]And today was the first day in which Joey Galloway actually made a positive impact for our team. I wonder if this means they will keep him in the lineup for the rest of the season rather than see what Austin has.[/B]

Armstrong didn't have too good of a game today, one of his receptions hit the ground but luckily the refs didn't catch it and the Titans were out of timeouts so they couldn't challenge it, but he also had a couple drops that we really needed.

I'm hoping these young guys get a shot to prove what they can do but if they don't I won't be suprised. With Portis likely out next week as a precaution, Torain still out, Simpson probably done for the year, I would def. be suprised if we didn't see James Davis on the roster for Minny.

We'll see what they do on the o-line too, I can see Hicks coming back next week but I'm not sure I want him in the lineup. Same with Rabach.

I guess we'll see what happens this week. There are a lot of injury questions with this team, so some decisions need to be made.[/quote]

The guy is almost 40. He's not the future here. I want to see if Banks and Austin can play wr. Get them the experience now so they get a head start for next year. Playing old wr's on a average to below average team that needs youth makes no sense.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;761511]With all the injuries suffered last week and this week, opportunities for young players will happen. My guess is Austin and Davis will get promoted from the PS (finally) and possibly Cook. Riley will probably play since Rocky is hurt, same goes for Barnes since Rogers is hurt. I'm actually excited to see these young players show what they can do.[/quote]

The thing is Rocky shouldn't even be playing inside. No way is be big and sturdy enough to be playing inside backer in a 3-4. I don't understand why Blades and Riley aren't playing inside and move Rocky outside.

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[quote=skinsfan69;761562]The problem is Snyder, Allen and Shanahan have a win now mentality. They need to realize that this team isn't good enough to make a Super Bowl run. Best case for this team is what? Make a wild card and go home in the first round? And that's if everything goes right. I've said this over and over but I'd get as many young guys on the field now as possible and clean house when the season is over.[/quote]

I don't think Shanahan is the rebuilding type. While we got our wish of having good football people running this organization, we got one that wasn't going to blow everything up.

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[quote=skinsfan69;761562]The problem is Snyder, Allen and Shanahan have a win now mentality. They need to realize that this team isn't good enough to make a Super Bowl run. Best case for this team is what? Make a wild card and go home in the first round? And that's if everything goes right. I've said this over and over but I'd get as many young guys on the field now as possible and clean house when the season is over.[/quote]

I think management is aware that they have to get rid of players like Rabach, Daniels, Galloway, Holliday, Hunter Smith, Carter, etc. Right now they are like "rental" players. I recall saying that the right side of the OL needed to be shuffled and some said with who? Well guess what? It worked for one game and hopefully will be good for the rest of the season. Rabach and Hicks needed benching, but in this case was due to attrition.

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Well I wouldn't say that the only reason our offensive line looked good today was the switching up; they were run-blocking effectively before AND after the injuries. The eagles have a good defensive line - the giants are having a real tough time running the ball right now, and I would say that's the main reason the line looked so much better today.

And you guys really have to have more faith in the coaching staff. They see the young guys playing in practice every day. I doubt kyle shanahan is thrilled to have galloway involved so much in the passing attack, but if he's our best option to win then I think it's the right move to play him over, for example, terrance austin. Also, there's much less of a distinction than you might think between "win now" and "rebuilding."

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;761568]I think management is aware that they have to get rid of players like Rabach, Daniels, Galloway, Holliday, Hunter Smith, Carter, etc. Right now they are like "rental" players. I recall saying that the right side of the OL needed to be shuffled and some said with who? Well guess what? It worked for one game and hopefully will be good for the rest of the season. Rabach and Hicks needed benching, but in this case was due to attrition.[/quote]

Carter would be relevant right now if we were still in the 4-3.

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[quote=Ruhskins;761581]Carter would be relevant right now if we were still in the 4-3.[/quote]

But would we still be screaming for landry to be cut?

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Pretty sad that it takes injuries to see how bad some players have been. I don't know crap next to these coaches but I knew that Rabach has been trash. Why do I have the feeling that if Casey can go, he will be back at the anchor.

Being a Redskins fan is so effing painful...

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[quote=skinsfan69;761563]The guy is almost 40. He's not the future here. I want to see if Banks and Austin can play wr. Get them the experience now so they get a head start for next year. Playing old wr's on a average to below average team that needs youth makes no sense.[/quote]

Some could say trading for McNabb to win now knowing that you are switching to a 3-4 defense that might take years to make a complete transition to makes no sense, others might say McNabb gives us the best chance to win games.

Same concept with Galloway, sure we'd like to see what we have for the future, especailly with this team being underwhelming this season, but Galloway apparantly gives us the best chance to help the team win now.

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[quote=mooby;761592]Some could say trading for McNabb to win now knowing that you are switching to a 3-4 defense that might take years to make a complete transition to makes no sense, others might say McNabb gives us the best chance to win games.

Same concept with Galloway, sure we'd like to see what we have for the future, especailly with this team being underwhelming this season, but Galloway apparantly gives us the best chance to help the team win now.[/quote]


Is the last sentence a question? That is the only way I could take it seriously.

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[quote=mooby;761592]Some could say trading for McNabb to win now knowing that you are switching to a 3-4 defense that might take years to make a complete transition to makes no sense, others might say McNabb gives us the best chance to win games.

Same concept with Galloway, sure we'd like to see what we have for the future, especailly with this team being underwhelming this season, but Galloway apparantly gives us the best chance to help the team win now.[/quote]

He's had 10 games and what has he done? Not much.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;761595]He's had 10 games and what has he done? Not much.[/quote]

I'm definitely not debating the impact Galloway has had, the fact remains he has contributed barely anything at all this season. But he had his best game of the season by far today, helping the team multiple times on third downs and getting us out of tight spots, and it's not like the coaching staff needs another reason to keep him on the field. They've kept him on the field throughout this season even though he hasn't done jack, so why would they bench him now that he finally contributed to the team?

I want to see what Austin/Banks has as much as the next guy, but you can't deny that Galloway has kept his job despite his mediocre play this season, and that probably doesn't stand to change now that he finally had a decent game.

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[quote=mooby;761596]I want to see what Austin/Banks has as much as the next guy, but you can't deny that Galloway has kept his job despite his mediocre play this season, and that probably doesn't stand to change now that he finally had a decent game.[/quote]

You are right, he had a decent game. I still would like to see either Galloway or Roydell Williams released and Austin promoted.

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Let's hope they do the right thing and ride the hot hand with the OL. Rabach, Hicks, and Lich have been together for half a season and the patchwork interior of Lich, W. Monty, and Heyer outperformed them by a mile. LOL
If Fat Andy could swallow his pride for Kolb, let's hope to dear God Shanahan does the same.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;761622]Let's hope they do the right thing and ride the hot hand with the OL. Rabach, Hicks, and Lich have been together for half a season and the patchwork interior of Lich, W. Monty, and Heyer outperformed them by a mile. LOL
[B]If Fat Andy could swallow his pride for Kolb, let's hope to dear God Shanahan does the same.[/B][/quote]

Yeah, good luck with that.

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[quote=Ruhskins;761624]Yeah, good luck with that.[/quote]

I guess I'll keep on keepin' it real then, although I'm softer than LavarNChad. :D

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;761595]He's had 10 games and what has he done? Not much.[/quote]

No, not much. You could say that about a lot of offensive players this season.

The bottom line is, the coaches are going to play who they think gives the team the best chance to win. They aren't going to sacrifice games just to "see what someone can do". They see that in practice, and once someone consistently steps up and shows they are going to give the team a better chance to win than Galloway/Williams or any other starter, you will see them on the field.

I don't like seeing Roydell or Joey out there either, but I got to believe the coaches are doing what they think is best for the team.

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So, what was the injury tally from last night's game? Has that been fleshed out yet, or is it going to take a day or so?

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[quote=skinsfan69;761562]The problem is Snyder, Allen and Shanahan have a win now mentality. They need to realize that this team isn't good enough to make a Super Bowl run. Best case for this team is what? Make a wild card and go home in the first round? And that's if everything goes right. I've said this over and over but I'd get as many young guys on the field now as possible and clean house when the season is over.[/quote]

Its a win now league and I have no problem with that. If a team makes the playoffs and gets hot anything can happen just ask the Cards. No matter what happens they are going to dump a lot of over-paid underperformers.

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[quote=irish;761634]Its a win now league and I have no problem with that. If a team makes the playoffs and gets hot anything can happen just ask the Cards. No matter what happens they are going to dump a lot of over-paid underperformers.[/quote]

I agree.....This could spell the end for many of this new "over the hill gang" If it takes injuries to make it happen then so be it. This group looks very slow in comparison to the more youthful teams around the league. Even when they're fortunate enough to win a game, they look far less than impressive. Their best work is on display when the opposition plays a game of self-destruct. No better example than yesterday.

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[quote=skinsfan69;761565]The thing is Rocky shouldn't even be playing inside. No way is be big and sturdy enough to be playing inside backer in a 3-4. I don't understand why Blades and Riley aren't playing inside and move Rocky outside.[/quote]

Thank god, I thought I was the only person who questioned this! I kept my mouth shut because he was putting up the tackle #s to justify being in the middle.

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[quote=skinsfan69;761562]The problem is Snyder, Allen and Shanahan have a win now mentality. They need to realize that this team isn't good enough to make a Super Bowl run. Best case for this team is what? Make a wild card and go home in the first round? And that's if everything goes right. I've said this over and over but I'd get as many young guys on the field now as possible and clean house when the season is over.[/quote]If you can get the 5th seed instead of the 6th seed, you get to go to <NFC West winner> instead of Green Bay. Even if the Eagles are extending their lead on us to the point where they are putting away the division in November, that 5th seed is out there for the taking with the Saints and the Bucs sitting at three losses each. Both those teams are going to take their share of defeats in the second half.

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I was just happy to see someone at the center position other than Rabach, he has been terririble for the last 3 years and it seemed the line got better in his absence.

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[quote=Ruhskins;761566]I don't think Shanahan is the rebuilding type. While we got our wish of having good football people running this organization, we got one that wasn't going to blow everything up.[/quote]

To rebuild a team you need draft picks to draft talented young players unless you want them to fire everyone over a certain age for undrafted players.

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Shanahan turned over 1/3 of the roster in a year with limited free agents. You can't rebuild a team in one year. We're going to see more change next year.

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[quote=Mattyk;761682]Shanahan turned over 1/3 of the roster in a year with limited free agents. You can't rebuild a team in one year. We're going to see more change next year.[/quote]Ultimately, high turnover is the reason we re-signed Rabach, but its still not a good reason. I mean, Montgomery was horrible last year (has been a lot better this year) and you can see the difference he made in pass protection in this game in the middle.

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[quote=skinsfan69;761565]The thing is Rocky shouldn't even be playing inside. No way is be big and sturdy enough to be playing inside backer in a 3-4. I don't understand why Blades and Riley aren't playing inside and move Rocky outside.[/quote]

Blades and Riley aren't that much different in size than Rocky.
Rocky: 6-2 239
Blades: 5-10 242
Riley: 6-0 238

If anything, Alexander should be moved inside (6-1, 272) and Rocky outside. I don't know the nuances of the 3-4 like some do here, but wouldn't that be a closer role to how he was used in the 4-3 as the will LB while also putting a bigger body in the middle to take on guards?

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Alexander is good in space and can help hold the edge

[QUOTE=Mattyk;761682]Shanahan turned over 1/3 of the roster in a year with limited free agents. You can't rebuild a team in one year. We're going to see more change next year.[/QUOTE]


Exactly.


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Looks like James Davis will finally be added to the roster with Chad Simpson going on IR

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[quote=SmootSmack;761868]Looks like James Davis will finally be added to the roster with Chad Simpson going on IR[/quote]

It's about time.

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Yes, there will continue to be lots of change over the offseason. I actually miss CP being in there. He looked good and can block like no other. But, yes, hopefully we can see more of some young guys:

Banks
James Davis
Riley
Maybe Austin

Mike Shanahan is a smart guy though. If Austin was ready or deserved to be activated he would be. We're still 5-5 and right in the mix. MS wants to win games #1.