Can the Redskins move back to RFK?
 

I know this may be pointless because it's not going to happen but this team has NO Homefield advantage at FedEx. You look at teams like Baltimore, Atlanta, GB, Pitts etc and teams know going in that it's a dogfight. I feel lie opposing teams are playing at a neutral site in Landover. I'd like to know what our record is all time at FedEx? I bet it's under .500 or pretty close. This team was great at RFK and actually had an advantage there.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;763389]I[B] know this may be pointless because it's not going to happen[/B] but this team has NO Homefield advantage at FedEx. You look at teams like Baltimore, Atlanta, GB, Pitts etc and teams know going in that it's a dogfight. I feel lie opposing teams are playing at a neutral site in Landover. I'd like to know what our record is all time at FedEx? I bet it's under .500 or pretty close. This team was great at RFK and actually had an advantage there.[/quote]

Losses do crazy things to message boards.

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^ not really man because this has been a problem for this team even when we made the playoffs. FedEx is horrible for any HF advantage, everytime an opposing team scores I hear a ton of cheers? WTF

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Well even tho I kinda agree with Bushead, I remember the the Monday night game against the steelers, I swear if it wasn't for the symbol on the field, you would have thought the steelers were home!

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Not going to happen for a multitude of reasons.

1. Dan Snyder has invested too much money into Fedex Field.
2. They have like a 30 year lease agreement with PGC to stay at Fedex, and it would cost the Skins money to break that lease
3. They left RFK because it's pretty old, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't have the luxury boxes Fedex has.
4. I'm not entirely sure but I think DC United still plays at RFK.
5. It's just not going to happen, a new stadium will get built in DC before the Skins ever move back to RFK.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;763396]^ not really man because this has been a problem for this team even when we made the playoffs. FedEx is horrible for any HF advantage, [B]everytime an opposing team scores I hear a ton of cheers? WTF[/B][/quote]

I'm with you bro... It does not feel like home.

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Because I'm that bored, here is our record at FedEx
97- 5-2-1
98- 4-4
99- 6-2
99- 1-0 (playoffs)
00 -4-4
01-4-4
02-5-3
03-3-5
04-3-5
05-6-2
06-2-6
07-5-3
08-4-4
09-3-5
10-2-4

So after today, we're 57-53-1.

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Good teams have home field advantage. A stadium alone doesn't make u a better team.

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[quote=Gmanc711;763400]Because I'm that bored, here is our record at FedEx
97- 5-2-1
98- 4-4
99- 6-2
99- 1-0 (playoffs)
00 -4-4
01-4-4
02-5-3
03-3-5
04-3-5
05-6-2
06-2-6
07-5-3
08-4-4
09-3-5
10-2-4

So after today, we're 57-53-1.[/quote]

So out of 14 seasons at Fedex, we've only had a winning record in 5 of those seasons. Definitely not good. In stark contrast, Matt Ryan is 18-1 at home as a starter for the Falcons.

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It's not the stadium that's making us suck guys. It's our coaching and overpaid players.

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I don't think Skinsfaninok was saying the stadium made us better. I think he was saying RFK was primarily filled with Skins fans every Sunday.

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Agreed with the above poster.

Although I believe it is so bad with opposing team fans invading FedEx field because of whoever is in charge of tickets, selling group seats/discounts for fans of opposing teams to come and see the game there.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but i believe that is the reason why the steelers invaded us on that monday night game in 2008.

As long as the Redskins care more about selling tickets, instead of making sure the tickets go to skins fans, we will always have this problem.

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;763407]It's not the stadium that's making us suck guys. It's our coaching and overpaid players.[/quote]

Can't argue with that. Then again, you can't argue with 44ever's post either. I'm not too concerned about the winning edge at Fedex, I just don't want to hear opponents' fans when they make a big play.

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I understand a stadium isn't the reason but it sure hurts our team when half the fans are cheering for the opposing team. It's just frustrating I guess

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It's always the team first...but I do think that our fans are very fickle, I know I am as well. I need things to make me excited, and when stuff starting going poorly, I tend to just get negative and mad, as I think a lot of people at the stadium do as well... I think that sometimes goes down and does have an affect on the team.

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^ there's times when I think it's as loud as any but then there is times where the fans just don't get loud at all.. Is the stadium to big? I've never been but from what I've heard it's just not a favorable place to play.

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[quote=mooby;763398]Not going to happen for a multitude of reasons.

1. Dan Snyder has invested too much money into Fedex Field.
2. They have like a 30 year lease agreement with PGC to stay at Fedex, and it would cost the Skins money to break that lease
3. They left RFK because it's pretty old, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't have the luxury boxes Fedex has.
4. I'm not entirely sure but I think DC United still plays at RFK.
5. It's just not going to happen, a new stadium will get built in DC before the Skins ever move back to RFK.[/quote]


All these are true. But your #1 point he has a lot invested because he when he bought the team they already had moved to FedEX. He has invested money to make the stadium better. But i do think he caused a lot of the opposing fans getting in by selling a lot of tickets to brokers who sell tixs to anyone.

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Back when this team was at RFK, they were winning on a consistent basis. The new generation fans didn't have the luxury of being able to watch this team during its glory years. I would imagine in today's economy and the recent history of this team, fans generally probably don't care much for going to watch the Redskins play. Lord knows I don't have the money to shell out for season tickets (nor do I live close enough to attend all the home games.)

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the game day experience since Snyder took over is horrible.

Traffic getting to the game is horrid

Tickets are expensive

Food is expensive

Parking is expensive

Traffic leaving the game is horrid

The juice isn't worth the squeeze to go watch a team the is barely over .500 at home in the past 14 seasons...just not worth it.

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[quote=maroonandblack30;763431]the game day experience since Snyder took over is horrible.

Traffic getting to the game is horrid

Tickets are expensive

Food is expensive

Parking is expensive

Traffic leaving the game is horrid

The juice isn't worth the squeeze to go watch a team the is barely over .500 at home in the past 14 seasons...just not worth it.[/quote]

You would look past all those things though if we had a winning team. Id pay more if we had a constantly winning team.

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[quote=WaldSkins;763434]You would look past all those things though if we had a winning team. Id pay more if we had a constantly winning team.[/quote]

absolutely.

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^^Winning does cure everything.
Silly thread.
The problem was on the field and in the front office, not the stadium or home field (dis)advantage.
Year after year of terrible drafts and player acquisitions combined with suspect coaching staffs is to blame.
The problem has been fixed...now it will just take time.
Do Redskins fans have the patience to wait a year or two?
Probably not.

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I don't know....

They spent the last 13 yrs in Maryland and since this is supposed to be the Metro Politan "AREA" or as the newbies like to call it DMV, then one would think it only fair to have it in Virginia for 10 to 15 yrs before moving back to DC. :) fairs fair.

So......
I'm lobbying for Virginia to be the next place.

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[quote=Gmanc711;763418]It's always the team first...but I do think that our fans are very fickle, I know I am as well. I need things to make me excited, and when stuff starting going poorly, I tend to just get negative and mad, as I think a lot of people at the stadium do as well... I think that sometimes goes down and does have an affect on the team.[/quote]

I disagree with that. Over the years, when things start to go bad, this team seems to NEVER be able to overcome it and over time, it has whore on the fans. Seriously, who can blame us for getting discouraged when things start going south.

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Once they start winning again is when you will see home field advantage show it's face again. Unfortunately most fans are fair weather fans.

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On a more serious note....lol. Rumor is DS is gealous of JJ's new stadium, on top of that I thought the lease on FedEx was at the point where he could opt out if he wanted to or stay another 10 yrs? and lastly the second part to the rumor was he wanted to move back to DC and have a retractable dome. So the team could play inside in bad weather and or open it up in good weather plus he would be able to host a SB more easily.

Will it happen? Who knows. I guess it's all up to whatever deal DC decides to make and how much they are willing to spend.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;763451]Once they start winning again is when you will see home field advantage show it's face again. Unfortunately most fans are fair weather fans.[/quote]

Well a lot has changed that has fueled the "Fair Weather Fan."

Players used to be "Loyal" to the team.
The team used to be "Loyal" to the player.
and...
Fans used to be "Loyal" to both team and player.

Except sometime during the late 80's players started switching teams at the drop of a hat. Mostly looking for a better paycheck. Then the NFLPA was started and players demanded more money.

Greed fed both players and owners and in the end players will go wherever the money is, owners will either be cheap and let the player go or pay the player and raise the ticket prices the following year to cover the cost.

The fans have been forgotten. To everyone else it's about money but to the fans all thats left is to enjoy a "good" team. Well the Skins ever since Gibbs1 have not fielded a decent team. Norv made the play offs once. Gibbs2 made it twice. So go figure as to why there are "Fair weather Fans." Oh did I mention the fact that ticket prices keep getting more expensive each year and the fans see nothing in return but a mediocre team?

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[quote=Gmanc711;763400]Because I'm that bored, here is our record at FedEx
97- 5-2-1
98- 4-4
99- 6-2
99- 1-0 (playoffs)
00 -4-4
01-4-4
02-5-3
03-3-5
04-3-5
05-6-2
06-2-6
07-5-3
08-4-4
09-3-5
10-2-4

So after today, we're 57-53-1.[/quote]

That number is only substantial if compared to our record on the road during that time period. If you're bored again Gman, could you run those numbers?

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[quote=maroonandblack30;763431]the game day experience since Snyder took over is horrible.

Traffic getting to the game is horrid

Tickets are expensive

Food is expensive

Parking is expensive

Traffic leaving the game is horrid

The juice isn't worth the squeeze to go watch a team the is barely over .500 at home in the past 14 seasons...just not worth it.[/quote]

I feel like Snyder actually made a lot of things better at FedEx compared to what it was like when FedEx first opened.

3 losses at home for a total of less than 10 points is certainly frustrating though

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[quote=Coff;763463]That number is only substantial if compared to our record on the road during that time period. If you're bored again Gman, could you run those numbers?[/quote]

Take the opposite of the home record.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;763414]Agreed with the above poster.

Although I believe it is so bad with opposing team fans invading FedEx field because of whoever is in charge of tickets, selling group seats/discounts for fans of opposing teams to come and see the game there.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but i believe that is the reason why the steelers invaded us on that monday night game in 2008.

As long as the Redskins care more about selling tickets, instead of making sure the tickets go to skins fans, we will always have this problem.[/quote]

No the reason why teams invade our stadium is because the people that complain about the stadium never buy tickets and go to the game. I had season tickets and I could not give some tickets away to skins fans. If fans would stop bitching and buy tickets we would not have that problem. Winning would also help.

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Always thought they should run their preseason games there, they average under what RFK holds so why not?

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[quote=Coff;763463]That number is only substantial if compared to our record on the road during that time period. If you're bored again Gman, could you run those numbers?[/quote]

Of Course:

97- 3-5
98- 2-6
99- 4-5 (0-1 Playoffs)
00- 4-4
01- 4-4
02- 2-6
03- 2-6
04- 3-5
05- 5-5 (1-1 playoffs)
06- 2-6
07- 4-4
08- 4-4
09- 1-7
10- 3-2

So that is: 43-69 on the road... wow... I really didn't think we were that bad on the road.....

There you have it though...Hopefully I'm not off on these.

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BTW...this team is so predictable

I bet anybody we beat the Giants on the road (Playoff team)
Beat Tampa at home (Playoff team)
Beat Jacksonville on the road (possible playoff team)

But somehow NOT make the Playoffs losing to dallas on the road (finished)

Or lose the Home game finale against the Giants in a "win, we are in" scenario

That's just how we roll...:cheeky-sm

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[quote=aceinthehouse;763558]BTW...this team is so predictable

I bet anybody we beat the Giants on the road (Playoff team)[COLOR="Red"] Check[/COLOR]
Beat Tampa at home (Playoff team) [COLOR="Red"]Check[/COLOR]
Beat Jacksonville on the road (possible playoff team) [COLOR="Red"]Check[/COLOR]

But somehow NOT make the Playoffs losing to dallas on the road (finished) [COLOR="Red"]Check[/COLOR]

Or lose the Home game finale against the Giants in a "win, we are in" scenario

That's just how we roll...:cheeky-sm[/quote]

Now your officially a true Brother of the B&G. You have been enlightened. Welcome Brother :)

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[quote=skinsfaninok;763389]I know this may be pointless because it's not going to happen but this team has NO Homefield advantage at FedEx. You look at teams like Baltimore, Atlanta, GB, Pitts etc and teams know going in that it's a dogfight. I feel lie opposing teams are playing at a neutral site in Landover. I'd like to know what our record is all time at FedEx? I bet it's under .500 or pretty close. This team was great at RFK and actually had an advantage there.[/quote]

Have you been to RFK lately?! Its a dump.

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^ no but shit atleast it was a tough place for opposing teams to play in.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;763576]^ no but shit atleast it was a tough place for opposing teams to play in.[/quote]

I think that had more to do with how good the Skins were rather than the stadium.

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[quote=skinsguy;763426][B]Back when this team was at RFK, they were winning on a consistent basis. The new generation fans didn't have the luxury of being able to watch this team during its glory years.[/B] I would imagine in today's economy and the recent history of this team, fans generally probably don't care much for going to watch the Redskins play. Lord knows I don't have the money to shell out for season tickets (nor do I live close enough to attend all the home games.)[/quote]

It was a special time to be a Redskins fan. So many great memories there. Fed Ex is simply not a good stadium nor is it a home field advantage like Seattle, Balt or KC.

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[quote=irish;763578]I think that had more to do with how good the Skins were rather than the stadium.[/quote]

I agree but FedEx has been critized by skins fans for years. When GB played there I swear it sounded like we were on the road.