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SmootSmack 12-20-2010 09:57 AM

Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
 
I just felt like starting a new poll

Assume there will be a season in 2011 (even if just an abbreviated one, who do you think will start behind center on opening day?

Poll results are public

freddyg12 12-20-2010 10:02 AM

Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
 
AFter 1 game sexy rexy would be the safe pick. But speaking of 'picks' he's got 2 more games to throw a no. of them & remind us why the bears & texans don't miss him.

GTripp0012 12-20-2010 10:03 AM

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Chad Henne.

skinsfaninok 12-20-2010 10:05 AM

Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
 
Well I say there will be a season and I think we have 3 options at QB for the start of next season.

1.Rex Grossman
2. Jake Locker
3. Kyle Orton



I want to see what Rex does the next 2 games but I think the shanny's really like him and feel that he can lead this offense..

Locker is a good athlete that has been compared to JAY Cutler, Big arm and good size.

Orton is the wild card to me, Denver probably won't bring him back next season with Tebow.. I think he could run our system and he's been pretty good for 3 straight seasons now..

hail_2_da_skins 12-20-2010 10:05 AM

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It's pretty obvious to me, that the Shanahans have given up on Donovan McNabb. The Redskins have very few draft picks, so its unlikely that a capable college quarterback will be drafted. Sexy Rexy will probably be the starter. Be prepared for a lot of turnovers.

TheSmurfs22 12-20-2010 10:09 AM

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I really hate the way this has played out with McNabb. Frankly, I am rather embarrassed by how the Shanahans have handled it, it is just another blunder this organization seems to continually make.

Rex did well yesterday, but it was one game so I would not get too excited about it.

Chico23231 12-20-2010 10:13 AM

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I wish there was some way to get Matt Schaub here with Kyle again.

Jontrem 12-20-2010 10:19 AM

Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
 
I am hoping that it will be a Luck or Locker or Mallet but am thinking it will be someone who is a backup/borderline starter for another team right now.

SmootSmack 12-20-2010 10:26 AM

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[quote=GTripp0012;771076]Chad Henne.[/quote]

We can corner the market on 2nd round Dolphin busts!

This what you want or what you think will happen? Or both?

MTK 12-20-2010 10:28 AM

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Grossman will be going into year 3 in this offense, I think he can get us by in the short run until a rook is ready. Beck will be back as the #2.

GTripp0012 12-20-2010 10:29 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;771087]We can corner the market on 2nd round Dolphin busts!

This what you want or what you think will happen? Or both?[/quote]More of a think. I'd be in favor of picking up Henne's remaining contract year for a good price, but if we draft a guy in the first two rounds, I'd prefer to just let him play from day one.

ArtMonkDrillz 12-20-2010 10:35 AM

Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
 
[quote=TheSmurfs22;771082]I really hate the way this has played out with McNabb. Frankly, I am rather embarrassed by how the Shanahans have handled it, it is just another blunder this organization seems to continually make.

Rex did well yesterday, but it was one game so I would not get too excited about it.[/quote]My thoughts exactly.

For the poll, I picked Locker with the hopes that we can trade back in the draft to get him and an extra pick or two.

mredskins 12-20-2010 10:50 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;771089]Grossman will be going into year 3 in this offense, I think he can get us by in the short run until a rook is ready. Beck will be back as the #2.[/quote]


I agree with this but don't look forward to a season with Rex as the starter.

irish 12-20-2010 10:57 AM

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I dont think Rex is signed for next year so if he lights it up during his audition as a Skin he could be a hot free agent. If that happens is Rex someone the Skins would want to get into a bidding war for?

Jontrem 12-20-2010 10:59 AM

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;771091]My thoughts exactly.

For the poll, I picked Locker with the hopes that we can trade back in the draft to get him and an extra pick or two.[/quote]

The only way I would see that happening would be if Luck declares for the draft and goes #1 and then someone pulls the trigger and picks Cam Newton and probably Mallet as well. Having said that I would like Locker over anyone other than Luck so I hope it plays out like this.

Sorry I should elaborate on what I meant, I was talking about as far as being able to trade back in the draft and pick up Locker.

mredskins 12-20-2010 11:00 AM

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[quote=irish;771094]I dont think Rex is signed for next year so if he lights it up during his audition as a Skin he could be a hot free agent. If that happens is Rex someone the Skins would want to get into a bidding war for?[/quote]


Good point!

Paintrain 12-20-2010 11:06 AM

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[quote=irish;771094]I dont think Rex is signed for next year so if he lights it up during his audition as a Skin he could be a hot free agent. If that happens is Rex someone the Skins would want to get into a bidding war for?[/quote]

I doubt 'Rex Grossman' and 'hot free agent' would ever be used in the same sentence unless he gets a divorce and he's featured in some strange cougar publication.

That being said, I think we're brining Rexy back (YEAH). The Shanahans don't know how to act (YEAH). Sorry, too much sugar this morning so I was channeling Timberlake for a second.

In all seriousness, Rex likely will open at starting QB in '11. I expect us to draft a QB with our 1st round pick but only after trading down at least once. The smart money is on Locker being the pick-although I don't really love that choice because he's got some serious question marks based on his '10 season.

We can probably recoup our 4th by dealing McNabb so if we can trade down, pick up a third, recoup our 4th then going QB in the 1st round won't be a bad move at all since this is a weak draft for OL.

celts32 12-20-2010 11:07 AM

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I hope it's Luck but I am going with Locker because I don't think we can pull off the trade up for Luck. Then again since the question is opening day it could be Rex keeping the seat warm for locker, but I said Locker because the thought of opening the season with Rex as the starter turns my stomach.

Paintrain 12-20-2010 11:08 AM

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[quote=GTripp0012;771076]Chad Henne.[/quote]

Chad Henne=Patrick Ramsey. Seen that movie, know how it ends, not interested in the sequel.

BigHairedAristocrat 12-20-2010 11:14 AM

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I voted Locker, as Smoot keeps saying the shannys dig him alot. Hopefully, this will be the final year we have a draft pick this high in the 1st round, so this is the ideal time to draft a franchise QB.Right now, i'm assuming we have a draft pick no lower than 7, and, if we took a qb that high in the draft, he'd be expected to start opening day.

Although Rex seems like the safe pick, I also think he's in a position to make him the #1 FA QB available. That said, I don't think any team will break the bank for him, so if we want to, we should be able to resign him.

Personally, i think we should trade whatever we have to to get Luck. Seriously, the dudes going to be one of the best QBs ever. I'd trade our 1st and 2nd this year, plus our 1st rounders the next two years to move up 5-6 spots to get him.

SmootSmack 12-20-2010 11:15 AM

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Redskins Opening Day 2011 Starter-Alex Smith. There I just gave you the scoop of the year. You're welcome

firstdown 12-20-2010 11:17 AM

Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
 
[quote=TheSmurfs22;771082]I really hate the way this has played out with McNabb. Frankly, I am rather embarrassed by how the Shanahans have handled it, it is just another blunder this organization seems to continually make.

Rex did well yesterday, but it was one game so I would not get too excited about it.[/quote]

Why was this a blunder? Other then the benching him in the Lions game benching him now is fine with me and after yesterday looks like the right decision. As far as picking our starting QB I'd rather guess that after the last game of the season.

ArtMonkDrillz 12-20-2010 11:19 AM

Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;771101]Redskins Opening Day 2011 Starter-Alex Smith. There I just gave you the scoop of the year. You're welcome[/quote]Is this a guess or water cooler talk around the world wide leader?

Paintrain 12-20-2010 11:20 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;771101]Redskins Opening Day 2011 Starter-Alex Smith. There I just gave you the scoop of the year. You're welcome[/quote]

Is that legitimate scoop or coal in the stocking?

MTK 12-20-2010 11:24 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;771101]Redskins Opening Day 2011 Starter-Alex Smith. There I just gave you the scoop of the year. You're welcome[/quote]

yikes hope not

Jontrem 12-20-2010 11:24 AM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;771100]
Personally, i think we should trade whatever we have to to get Luck. Seriously, the dudes going to be one of the best QBs ever. I'd trade our 1st and 2nd this year, plus our 1st rounders the next two years to move up 5-6 spots to get him.[/quote]

I don't think we would have to give up that much to get him would we? Something like this year and next years first rounder should do it though. Also I think he has a very good chance to be a good QB, but to say a college sophomore is going to be one of the best QBs is a little over the top. Unless there was some sarcasm I was missing?

skinsfan69 12-20-2010 11:25 AM

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No way Mcnabb is coming back so it will probably be Grossman. Not quite sure what everyone sees in Jake L. I've only seen him play a few times and was not impressed at all.

mooby 12-20-2010 11:26 AM

Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
 
I will bump this thread and answer this poll when or if training camp opens and we have our semi-finalized roster on board. I'm just taking the easy way out simply because a lot of things can happen between now and Opening Day 2011. I really don't have an idea of where the 'Skins are going to go with the qb position. I think they'll go draft but the draft is a matter of where we land and who's available. They might not even take a qb if all the good ones are gone by the time we pick.

SmootSmack 12-20-2010 11:34 AM

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[quote=Paintrain;771104]Is that legitimate scoop or coal in the stocking?[/quote]

A little from column A, a little from column B.

Seriously though, he's one of several names who have been mentioned as possibilities. Locker and Newton are commonly mentioned as guys the Skins will target in the draft (Locker more so than Newton), which of course means we'll take Mallett.

One of the Shanahan apparently likes Locker more than Newton, the other Newton more than Locker. We'll see who, if either, wins out. Either way, both supposedly agree that Locker and Newton aren't quite ready for NFL play so they will look for someone to hold down the fort in 2011, Perhaps for all of 2011. Among the candidates to hold down the fort that I heard last week (granted this was before The Benching) were the fairly obvious choices: McNabb, Grossman, Beck (yeah, I don't really get it either), and Alex Smith (along with Marc Bulger and Bruce Gradkowski, both long shot considerations though).

There's also some thought that Shanahan thinks maybe he can do for Smith what he did for Plummer, and that really all Alex Smith needs is some consistency, instead of having to learn a new offense under a new offensive coordinator every year (sound familiar?)

But, as I've mentioned before, this Redskins front office is much tougher to figure out than the previous one. It was pretty easy to get inside info, even as I move further to the outside, with Vinny in the house. That's the one thing I miss about him being there

CRedskinsRule 12-20-2010 11:38 AM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;771100]I voted Locker, as Smoot keeps saying the shannys dig him alot. Hopefully, this will be the final year we have a draft pick this high in the 1st round, so this is the ideal time to draft a franchise QB.Right now,[B] i'm assuming we have a draft pick no lower than 7,[/B] and, if we took a qb that high in the draft, he'd be expected to start opening day.

Although Rex seems like the safe pick, I also think he's in a position to make him the #1 FA QB available. That said, I don't think any team will break the bank for him, so if we want to, we should be able to resign him.

Personally, i think we should trade whatever we have to to get Luck. Seriously, the dudes going to be one of the best QBs ever. I'd trade our 1st and 2nd this year, plus our 1st rounders the next two years to move up 5-6 spots to get him.[/quote]
I think we will be closer to the 11th spot. Right now the standings are:
Car 2-12
Cinci 3-11
Den 3-11
Buff 4-10
Det 4-10
Az 4-10
Min 5-9
Houst 5-9
SF 5-9
Clev 5-9
Wash 5-9
Dal 5-9

Draft ties are decided by strength of schedule(weakest schedule goes first), and we and Dallas had the strongest schedules out of this group. Carolina, Denver and Cincinatti are guaranteed to be ahead of us, since they at worst would tie us. So our absolute best draft spot is number 4, if we lose both games, and everyone else wins out. Dallas will likely beat Arizona, so Arizona will be below us. Anyway, if it were held today we would pick either 11th or 12th.

I don't know these qb's, so I can't say much about who we should get, but over 8th position it's going to be hard to jockey around enough to get any of the top qb picks (unless they free fall like last year)

skinsfaninok 12-20-2010 11:41 AM

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If it's Alex smith or Marc bulger I won't watch next season

BigHairedAristocrat 12-20-2010 12:29 PM

Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
 
You know what I would really like to know -

Who was the force behind the McNabb trade? Looking back on everything we've seen from the shanahans over the course of the season, it seems obvious that neither Kyle or Mike Shanahan ever wanted McNabb here.

Kyle already had his QB of choice on the roster. Shanahan would seem to trust his son. There's no indication that Allen has authority over Shanahan on personnel matters.

They're talking about it on espn980 right now and i have to agree - this move was driven by Dan Snyder.

Leader In Sports 12-20-2010 12:30 PM

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Let us not forget the Danny factor in all of this. I am willing to bet you will see some aged veteran QB that is not on your radar as of now. Who would have thought McNabb would be here this time last year?

sportscurmudgeon 12-20-2010 12:34 PM

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[quote=Paintrain;771099]Chad Henne=Patrick Ramsey. Seen that movie, know how it ends, not interested in the sequel.[/quote]

Amen! and AMEN!!!

hooskins 12-20-2010 12:37 PM

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I see the John Beck contingent is strong force. Almost seven percent baby!

sportscurmudgeon 12-20-2010 12:39 PM

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I am a bit surprised that we have not yet heard the name Colt Brennan mentioned here - - assuming he recovers completely from his injuries in that auto accident.

MTK 12-20-2010 12:42 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;771133]You know what I would really like to know -

Who was the force behind the McNabb trade? Looking back on everything we've seen from the shanahans over the course of the season, it seems obvious that neither Kyle or Mike Shanahan ever wanted McNabb here.

Kyle already had his QB of choice on the roster. Shanahan would seem to trust his son. There's no indication that Allen has authority over Shanahan on personnel matters.

They're talking about it on espn980 right now and i have to agree - this move was driven by Dan Snyder.[/quote]

Seems that Kyle wanted him less than Mike. I think it came down to an ego thing, they thought whatever issues they saw on film could be corrected with their coaching. Turns out this old dog isn't interested in learning any new tricks.

Not buying that Snyder is driving any decision making. Knowing how much of a control freak Shanahan is... no way he would have come here unless he was guaranteed total control over the roster.

SmootSmack 12-20-2010 12:45 PM

Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;771133]You know what I would really like to know -

Who was the force behind the McNabb trade? Looking back on everything we've seen from the shanahans over the course of the season, it seems obvious that neither Kyle or Mike Shanahan ever wanted McNabb here.

Kyle already had his QB of choice on the roster. Shanahan would seem to trust his son. There's no indication that Allen has authority over Shanahan on personnel matters.

They're talking about it on espn980 right now and i have to agree - this move was driven by Dan Snyder.[/quote]

It was not driven by Snyder. Once Bruce Allen saw that there was an opening to make a move for McNabb he told Mike Shanahan he was potentially available and stated his case for why he thought the deal made sense and how he could get it done. I believe Allen had tried to get McNabb a couple of years ago in Tampa as well. Anyhow, Mike Shanahan gave the go ahead and that's that. So if anyone was the "driving force" it was Bruce Allen

sportscurmudgeon 12-20-2010 12:51 PM

Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;771140]It was not driven by Snyder. Once Bruce Allen saw that there was an opening to make a move for McNabb he told Mike Shanahan he was potentially available and stated his case for why he thought the deal made sense and how he could get it done. I believe Allen had tried to get McNabb a couple of years ago in Tampa as well. Anyhow, Mike Shanahan gave the go ahead and that's that. So if anyone was the "driving force" it was Bruce Allen[/quote]


Agree here. Allen did try to get McNabb to Tampa in 06 or 07.

But the decision that I would still like to know about is:
[INDENT]Who was the "driving force" behind the contract extension for McNabb at the end of the bye week?[/INDENT]

DCtoAZ 12-20-2010 01:05 PM

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remember after we beat dallas week #1 and were up 17 on the texans in the second half .. man I surely thought this season would shape up differently .. i have to admit, the sex cannon does seem to grasp the offense better ... i had blinders on with mcnabb and shanny saw this shit in practice and game day ... he knew this would be a tough political move but sometimes you gotta bite the bullet, admit your mistakes and move the F on .. McNabb is our JETS Favre experiment.


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