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mooby 01-03-2011 02:21 AM

Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
According to [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/1/2/1910352/2011-nfl-draft-order-complete-rams-15th-seahawks-21st"]this[/URL] link the Redskins have the 10th overall pick in the 2011 draft. So now that we know where we're picking, what do our options look like? If the info on SBNation is right, we are behind the Panthers, Broncos, Bills, Bengals, Cardinals, Browns, 49ers, Titans, and Cowboys in that order. I still think we go qb if a decent one is available, and if one isn't we go for BPA.

Looking at that list we can assume the Panthers, Bills, Bengals, Cardinals, and 49ers will either definitely want a qb upgrade or might be interested if the right one presents itself. None of those are a given though, the Panthers might be interested in sticking with Clausen, same with the Bills and Fitzpatrick, and maybe Cincy with Palmer, but I do feel the Cards will def. seek an upgrade either through draft or fa, and same with the 9ers.

I still believe Andrew Luck is intent on going back to Stanford for his senior year, but I won't say it's not possible because anything can happen. When looking at all this data what do you guys think are the odds that we just get a stopgap option in free agency or stick with Grossman knowing his evaluation period is over and wait till' 2012 to go more long term? I think there's a lot of qb needy teams ahead of us in the draft this year and by the time our turn comes around we might be sol.

Eknox 01-03-2011 02:33 AM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
****ing Lineman offense, or defense don't matter..

gafinfan 01-03-2011 03:01 AM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
I think the 2011 QB class is quite poor and if Luck doesn't come out it gets much worse imho. That, of course, will not stop alot of GM's from rolling the dice! Though there are some nice propects out there there are no sure fire #1's save Luck. jm2c, of course!

I'd wait till 2012 where the pick'ins are much better!

Texanskin 01-03-2011 03:09 AM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
You listed 5 teams that need a QB..... 5 good QB prospects in this updcoming draft dont exist. OL & DL should be 75% of our picks. Re-sign Moss, keep AA, work out T. Austin, see if Malcom Kelly will give you anything. Bring back Rogers & Rocky.Let Chris Wilson, anthony bryant, Jeremy Jarmon, Rob Jackson compete for starting positions. We NEED a C and RT....and DL. NO MORE QB TALK UNTIL 2012.....beef up the LINES for a change PLEASE!!!!

Defensewins 01-03-2011 03:21 AM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
Build the lines. Give me a physical run blocking OL that likes to knock the snot out defenses and that can pass protect of course. A consistent running game will be huge asset THAT we have not had in a while. MAKES EVERYTHING ELSE SO MUCH EASIER.
How about a defensive line that can consistently stop the run and generate a strong pass rush with out blitzing? What a concept!
Then a stud FS to compliment Dirty 30.
If we can do that and we will be a playoff team.
The Jets, Ravens, Steelers and Patriots have strong lines and they will contend this playoffs. It is cold and windy. Run the ball and stop the run. Playoff football.

diehard 01-03-2011 04:16 AM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
I love the draft. I just hope we have some newer and better intelligence scouting for the team now.

Dirtbag59 01-03-2011 04:28 AM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
Give me a QB for the next 10 years. Specifically Jake Locker. Drafting a Guard or Center at 10 is a huge reach, especially when you consider the fact that we not only have a second round pick this year but the last Second Round Guard drafted by Shanahan, our very own Lennie Friedman. For better or worse free agency will address the immediate concerns along the O-Line.

[quote=gafinfan;774566]I think the 2011 QB class is quite poor and if Luck doesn't come out it gets much worse imho. That, of course, will not stop alot of GM's from rolling the dice! Though there are some nice propects out there there are no sure fire #1's save Luck. jm2c, of course!

[B]I'd wait till 2012[/B] where the pick'ins are much better![/B] [/quote]

You bastards. You **** teases. You wretched ingrates! This happens every year. And this is not just directed at gafinfan. This is all of you! Even though we weren't looking for a QB in 2008 we still had people saying that the 2008 QB class was terrible (*cough* Matt Ryan Joe Flacco *cough). Wait till next year they said. Then 2009 roles around (Josh Freeman, Matt Stafford). Oh no that class is terrible, wait till next year that class will be much better.

2010 roles around, the first year we really start looking for a new QB. Now I can deal with 2008 and 2009. However I was promised in writing that the 2011 QB class was going to be amazing. I was frequently told that 2011 was the year we would have our pick from a flurry of QB's. 2011 was going to be the year of the Quarterback. So you know what we dealt with not getting Bradford and McCoy and maybe we lucked out on Clausen. Heck even Tebow looks like a potential Franchise QB at this point.

And now it's 2011 and what do I hear? Wait till 2012. I don't know about you guys but I'm starting to sense some sort of pattern here (except with Ruhskisn, as he has remained consistent from last year on his promise to me of QB nirvana).

At this rate we're not going to get a QB worth protecting until Trent is retired along with the 7 other first round fat boys you guys are drafting over the course of the next 7 years (4 OL, 3 DL). Now if you'll excuse me I have to go dial 911 as I'm experiencing chest problems as well as shooting pains in my arm.

[SIZE="1"][I]PS - It should go without saying but just in case, this piece is written with a tongue in cheek tone. I believe none of you to be wrechted ingrates or cock teases. Nor are any of you bastards.[/I][/SIZE]

skinsfaninok 01-03-2011 05:54 AM

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Pouncey from Fla or Blackmon from OKST

Meks 01-03-2011 06:17 AM

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Either line...

Daseal 01-03-2011 07:15 AM

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Best Player Available. We have holes all over the place, get the best talent you can. Personally, I would love to see a big NT be drafted, but they don't grow on trees.

bigdaddy2348 01-03-2011 08:39 AM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
We should trade down for more picks, then draft O line or D line with the top 3 picks that we have. I am not sold on any of the quarter's after Luck and truth be told remember how high everyone was on Locker last year and now look at how they feel about him. This is not to say he won’t be good but we need to build an O line before we even think about trying to bring a quarterback here. Rex has only been in the league 8 years he knows the system he could be a good stop gap until we put things together. We are not going anywhere right now anyway. We need to rebuild the right way which takes time and good drafting sprinkle in a few young free agents, and then we may have something to talk about.

Longtimefan 01-03-2011 08:53 AM

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With so many holes to fill I'm sure we all have a wish list when it comes to the draft. How active, and who we pursue during the free agency period will have a major impact on the draft strategy. It's not difficult to see where the team needs are. I would start by concentrating on both the offensive and defensive lines, most of all sorting out the QB situation.

scowan 01-03-2011 09:31 AM

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I want a new Center!!! Maybe not with that 10th pick, but we have to upgrade that push up the middle. Rabach has to go. I can't even run up the middle in Madden 11 because Rabach is so bad. Grossman made some plays yesterday, but he can't feel the heat and is NOT the answer at QB. I saw the same thing out of him yesterday that teases everyone about him. Strong arm, quick reads, but can't feel the heat, so the sack/fumbles happen too often.

skinsfan57 01-03-2011 09:42 AM

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the skins can't wait until 2012 to draft a QB.the 2011 draft should be used to get a QB,OL,RB and WR [in that order].the defence can be upgraded with free agents.:food-smil

3Card 01-03-2011 10:02 AM

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The Huddle Report.com has all 7 rounds for the top 20 picks including trades.
just go to thehuddlereport.com and click on draft order. I would post a link but i need a few more post before I can. :)

Chico23231 01-03-2011 10:07 AM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
Best available players at either:

QB, NT, DE, WR

Too early to take interior Oline pick and there will be no RB talent worthy of a pick that early.

mooby 01-03-2011 10:17 AM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
When I look at the roster and evaluate where we need help next season, it's easy to see we have a lot of open holes. And given how many qb needy teams there are at the top of the draft, odds are we might not have a shot at a good one. I think we do go BPA, I don't see Shanny reaching on a qb that he feels probably isn't worth the 10th overall pick.

QB: question mark, could go with Grossman, draft a guy, sign a stopgap option in FA
RB: Bring back Portis at a much lower salary, keep Torain and Williams and fill #2 hole if Portis leaves.
FB: Sorry Sellers. We need to upgrade.
WR: Resign Moss, we're pretty good here.
TE: We're fine with Cooley/Davis/Paulsen. Cooley could be shipped for more picks, but I wouldn't be disappointed if he stayed.
OL
LT: Set
LG: Upgrade
C: definite upgrade
RG: Upgrade
RT: Set, still wanna see how Brown plays when he's completely healthy before judgement is passed.

DE: We're good with Carriker on one side, upgrade on the other.
DT: Upgrade unless they are comfortable with Anthony Bryant and want to see how he performs over a full season.
LB: Question marks across the board. Rocky can go, he is not a 3-4 linebacker. Maybe get young guy to groom behind Fletcher, and we could use an upgrade over 'Zo at outside backer. I only feel comfortable with Fletch and Orakpo at linebacker at this point, and Fletch doesn't have many years left, esp. not given his perfect health which will run out at some point.
DBs: Resign 'Los, upgrade at FS, we'll be fine with Landry at SS and Hall/Rogers as the corners. I want to see what Kevin Barnes looks like as the 3rd cb next season too, although I'd understand if they still prefer Buchanon to him.

And upgrades at kicker/punter/long snapper would be appreciated too. I'm not sure how many of Gano's misses were Sundbergs fault but Gano was def. lookin at Sundberg and Paulescu like they were to blame for his missed chip shot against the Giants.

Ruhskins 01-03-2011 10:43 AM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
At this point I think you need to go QB with the #10 pick and an interior lineman with the 2nd rounder or a NT. I just can't see any other position that is worth the #10 pick overall with our huge QB need (unless there's some beast of a NT out there).

This is the point where I hate having given up a 2nd rounder last year for McNabb. We could've picked up Cody to be our NT or an interior o-lineman.

Also, the FA market should be better this year if the players/owners settle this labor issue.

hooskins 01-03-2011 10:45 AM

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We also need a FS. Needs are endless on this team, so anyone really.

freddyg12 01-03-2011 10:48 AM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;774570]Give me a QB for the next 10 years. Specifically Jake Locker. Drafting a Guard or Center at 10 is a huge reach, especially when you consider the fact that we not only have a second round pick this year but the last Second Round Guard drafted by Shanahan, our very own Lennie Friedman. For better or worse free agency will address the immediate concerns along the O-Line.



You bastards. You **** teases. You wretched ingrates! This happens every year. And this is not just directed at gafinfan. This is all of you! Even though we weren't looking for a QB in 2008 we still had people saying that the 2008 QB class was terrible (*cough* Matt Ryan Joe Flacco *cough). Wait till next year they said. Then 2009 roles around (Josh Freeman, Matt Stafford). Oh no that class is terrible, wait till next year that class will be much better.

2010 roles around, the first year we really start looking for a new QB. Now I can deal with 2008 and 2009. However I was promised in writing that the 2011 QB class was going to be amazing. I was frequently told that 2011 was the year we would have our pick from a flurry of QB's. 2011 was going to be the year of the Quarterback. So you know what we dealt with not getting Bradford and McCoy and maybe we lucked out on Clausen. Heck even Tebow looks like a potential Franchise QB at this point.

And now it's 2011 and what do I hear? Wait till 2012. I don't know about you guys but I'm starting to sense some sort of pattern here (except with Ruhskisn, as he has remained consistent from last year on his promise to me of QB nirvana).

At this rate we're not going to get a QB worth protecting until Trent is retired along with the 7 other first round fat boys you guys are drafting over the course of the next 7 years (4 OL, 3 DL). Now if you'll excuse me I have to go dial 911 as I'm experiencing chest problems as well as shooting pains in my arm.

[SIZE=1][I]PS - It should go without saying but just in case, this piece is written with a tongue in cheek tone. I believe none of you to be wrechted ingrates or cock teases. Nor are any of you bastards.[/I][/SIZE][/quote]

A qb at #10 makes sense for a no. of reasons as you've pointed out. I believe Shanahan drafted Tommy Maddox w/a 1st round pick. I remember the logic was that the team wouldn't get another opportunity to draft as high anytime soon. I hope that's the case here, that we don't draft as high as 10 for years.

CRedskinsRule 01-03-2011 10:56 AM

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the 10 pick is a prime trading spot I think. So unless a true game changer is on the board I would be real happy to trade back to even the mid 20's if we can gain another good pick. That said, there are usually some stud LB's around that area, and maybe we could get a replacement for Fletcher or McIntosh. (Fletcher only because we don't know how much longer he can go at his position)

SBXVII 01-03-2011 11:01 AM

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I personally liked what I saw from the Rookie NT or whoever played NT yesterday. He seemed to be able to move from side to side rather well and made some decent tackles. So I might pick up another late round young healthy NT to back him up or spell him once and a while.

I think you almost have to go either Center (which is my pick) or a young healthy RT in order to shore up the OL. Second round I actually might either look at QB Andy Dalton if still available (but thats kinda high in the draft for him unless he moves up for some reason) to develope or I'd go Guard.

I think our needs are C, RT, LB, FS, and a WR. (C) Rabach's gotta go, (RT) Brown is ok but if he's injured again who replaces him?, (LB) Replacement for Carter, (FS) Landry is more of a SS but still we need someone who can let him rest a play or two- is it Banks?, (WR) Depending on if we pick up anyone in FA I think we almost have to pick up more young WR talent. Hopefully we can pick up a couple of FA's at WR like either V.Jack or whoever else is available so we can dismiss drafting a WR and simply bring in either a late round WR or UFA WR so we can use the picks elsewhere like on OL.

Ruhskins 01-03-2011 11:03 AM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;774643]the 10 pick is a prime trading spot I think. So unless a true game changer is on the board I would be real happy to trade back to even the mid 20's if we can gain another good pick. That said, there are usually some stud LB's around that area, and maybe we could get a replacement for Fletcher or McIntosh. (Fletcher only because we don't know how much longer he can go at his position)[/quote]

Trading down would be a nice move. Still pick up a QB in the mid to late first round and pick up some more picks later on.

DCtoAZ 01-03-2011 11:06 AM

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Wow .. Draft talk already .. there isn't much time to speculate .... i'm sure nothing will change by April ... I personally like the Blackmon WR from OSU .. why can't we get a Dez Bryant Clone ? WE NEED A WR .. Obviously Shanny has love for Grossman .. and I don't see why he can't be the bridge until the right QB becomes available ... Grossman can be a part of a playoff team .. hell he was a part of a Super Bowl ... DRAFT BLACKMON

SBXVII 01-03-2011 11:07 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;774619]Best available players at either:

QB, NT, DE, WR

Too early to take interior Oline pick and there will be no RB talent worthy of a pick that early.[/quote]

I can understand QB, NT- maybe, and WR depending on what we do in FA. but people keep saying we need a DE? I presume your refering to LB/DE? like Orakpo to take over Carter's spot?

and.... why do people keep saying RB? Torain runs better then Portis, is younger and healthier. So if we could ever get a OL to make holes for him we will be fine. Williams did well also yesterday and does a nice job at catching out of the back field. The big question is Davis whome people say is a great runner so give them a whole season to learn the scheme better and learn the blocking and they should be fine.

Too early to take interior OL? if that's our need its not. Especially since we are limited to so few picks early on. Unless we trade out for more picks. I'd say pick the best Center available who is good at zone blocking. Then maybe look at RT cause even the announcers yesterday said Brown was doing well but would be a lot better at RG if we could pick up a good RT.

Ruhskins 01-03-2011 11:10 AM

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[quote=SBXVII;774655]I can understand QB, NT- maybe, and WR depending on what we do in FA. but people keep saying we need a DE? I presume your refering to LB/DE? like Orakpo to take over Carter's spot?

and.... why do people keep saying RB? Torain runs better then Portis, is younger and healthier. So if we could ever get a OL to make holes for him we will be fine. Williams did well also yesterday and does a nice job at catching out of the back field. The big question is Davis whome people say is a great runner so give them a whole season to learn the scheme better and learn the blocking and they should be fine.

Too early to take interior OL? if that's our need its not. Especially since we are limited to so few picks early on. Unless we trade out for more picks. I'd say pick the best Center available who is good at zone blocking. Then maybe look at RT cause even the announcers yesterday said Brown was doing well but would be a lot better at RG if we could pick up a good RT.[/quote]

I would pick up an interior lineman in the mid to late first round (the way Pittsburgh picked up Pouncey or the Browns took Mack); but not with the #10.

Chico23231 01-03-2011 11:32 AM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
[quote=SBXVII;774655]I can understand QB, NT- maybe, and WR depending on what we do in FA. but people keep saying we need a DE? I presume your refering to LB/DE? like Orakpo to take over Carter's spot?

and.... why do people keep saying RB? Torain runs better then Portis, is younger and healthier. So if we could ever get a OL to make holes for him we will be fine. Williams did well also yesterday and does a nice job at catching out of the back field. The big question is Davis whome people say is a great runner so give them a whole season to learn the scheme better and learn the blocking and they should be fine.

Too early to take interior OL? if that's our need its not. Especially since we are limited to so few picks early on. Unless we trade out for more picks. I'd say pick the best Center available who is good at zone blocking. Then maybe look at RT cause even the announcers yesterday said Brown was doing well but would be a lot better at RG if we could pick up a good RT.[/quote]

Our rushing game was ranked 29th, second consecutive piss poor year. Portis is not an option. K Williams really did a great job, he's a number 2 or 3. Torrain did fine when healthy. Your number one back needs to be on the field most the time. Not 8-9 games. His health has always been an issue his entire, short career. I like him in the mix, but he not a number 1 IMO. We need help running the ball badly. I would like someone with speed.

NT IMO is a very important need especially in our epic fail of the first year 3-4. Our freakin D-Line struggled tremendously all season. Carriker is a keeper at DE....the other NT and DE need help bad. Gholston and Bryant are depth who can be used in the game day rotation. But not starters. We gave up 130.6 avg yards on the ground, 25th in the league.

I didnt understand your Oline question...you saying interior Oline is not a need? Wow your in the minority. I just wouldnt take a guard or center with the 10th pick, more of an impact player is needed IMO. I like Pouncy alot...not at 10

MonkFan4Life 01-03-2011 11:48 AM

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I'm going with the 6ft 4, 207lb AJ Green out of The University of Georgia !

If he falls to us I say take him.

skinsfan69 01-03-2011 11:53 AM

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I just hope they don't draft a QB unless it's Luck. I really don't think any of the other QB's are worth taking that high. You win in the trenches and we don't have enough quality players in the trenches. I'd just bring back McNabb and Grossman and try and get better players around them.

Chico23231 01-03-2011 11:55 AM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
[quote=MonkFan4Life;774683]I'm going with the 6ft 4, 207lb AJ Green out of The University of Georgia !

If he falls to us I say take him.[/quote]

Hell yeah, hes a monster. Thats my choice after looking at the available talent and what might be available to us. Mallet an interesting player, dont know if Im sold on him.

rbanerjee23 01-03-2011 12:22 PM

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[quote=scowan;774601]I want a new Center!!! Maybe not with that 10th pick, but we have to upgrade that push up the middle. Rabach has to go. [/quote]

Ditto, bottom line is this team is so freaking bad that a good pick at really any position would be an upgrade and a necessary pick. Team doesn't get fixed with one draft + offseason so I say go either O-Line or D-Line

juskins 01-03-2011 12:26 PM

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The glowing weakness is on defense, especially, defensive line. We need a true beast at NT. We need fresh legs there and the journeymen that we have now need to be challenge with youth. Bryant needs a playmate to bring the best out of him.

diehardskin2982 01-03-2011 12:35 PM

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I see the skins drafting their franchise quarterback they have been chasing for the last 10 years. It will be Locker or Newton if we stay at 10. But I wouldn't be suprised if we moved up to one to draft Luck by giving up Haynesworth, two picks including the 1st and Donovan to the Panthers.

I not saying, I want that to happen but I do see the skins being dumb enough to do something like that.
I hope we trade down grab Pouncey or a WR later in the 1st.

SBXVII 01-03-2011 12:38 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;774669]Our rushing game was ranked 29th, second consecutive piss poor year. Portis is not an option. K Williams really did a great job, he's a number 2 or 3. Torrain did fine when healthy. Your number one back needs to be on the field most the time. Not 8-9 games. His health has always been an issue his entire, short career. I like him in the mix, but he not a number 1 IMO. We need help running the ball badly. I would like someone with speed.

NT IMO is a very important need especially in our epic fail of the first year 3-4. Our freakin D-Line struggled tremendously all season. Carriker is a keeper at DE....the other NT and DE need help bad. Gholston and Bryant are depth who can be used in the game day rotation. But not starters. We gave up 130.6 avg yards on the ground, 25th in the league.

I didnt understand your Oline question...you saying interior Oline is not a need? Wow your in the minority. I just wouldnt take a guard or center with the 10th pick, more of an impact player is needed IMO. I like Pouncy alot...not at 10[/quote]

No, what I'm saying is I feel our lack of yrds at RB are equal to the fact our OL sucks. If we beef up the OL with the "type" of OL needed for this system to work the RB yrds should pick up. Clearly OL was a major issue and I would probably pick up a replacement for Rabach first at Center. I feel the Guards don't need to be as talented as the 3 major base points of the OL meaning LT, Center, and RT. If those 3 positions are fixed I think our current OL will fill in nicely at guard ie; Heyer, Hicks, and Montgomery and Lickenstien (sp). So in all actuality I'm saying the OL needs to be addressed, but RB does not. Torain is a really good runner, but I'll admit he needs to work on his blocking. This can be fixed with the team helping him learn where the rush should be coming from over the summer. Also some coach's do great things with a #1 RB, some coach's make #1 RB's out of the scheme they run which is where MS stands. I just thing spending a high pick for a RB or WR is a luxury at this point plus it all depends on what the team does in FA.

You mention NT and I agree with you and it was on my list of needs, but I was pleasantly supprised with the guy who played NT yesterday. I think he will work out and possibly pick up a second NT in case our guy gets hurt or needs a break.

I would pick BPA at our needed positions of Center, RT, or NT with the first 2 picks. If picking up a RT is easy late in the draft then so be it pick up a Center and NT. However I don't think Grossman is our answer completely and I'm not sure what Beck is going to offer. So we might want to look into a project QB to develope for a year. Which I brought up the TCU QB Andy Dalton, he seemed accurat, fast, strong armed, and seemed over all a decent kid. If the team could possibly drop down in the draft and pick up a 3rd round pick and hope he's there or throw in a 7th and a 5th to move up? I don't know but he might be a QB who would work well in this scheme.

SBXVII 01-03-2011 12:45 PM

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[quote=MonkFan4Life;774683]I'm going with the 6ft 4, 207lb AJ Green out of The University of Georgia !

If he falls to us I say take him.[/quote]

Someone also mentioned the Center from University of Florida. He was big, fast and was nimble enough to pull on run plays.

I guess thats the Pouncy kid....

[url=http://www.gatorzone.com/football/bios.php?year=2010&player_id=122]Gator Football Roster/Bios - GatorZone.com[/url]

SBXVII 01-03-2011 12:51 PM

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QB Andrew Luck might not be a bad choice either I just didn't see him play.

[url]http://sports.ap.org/college-football/andrew-luck[/url]

QB Andy Dalton;

[url=http://sports.ap.org/college-football/andy-dalton]Andy Dalton | QB | TCU Horned Frogs[/url]

SkinzWin 01-03-2011 12:53 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;774713]No, what I'm saying is I feel our lack of yrds at RB are equal to the fact our OL sucks. If we beef up the OL with the "type" of OL needed for this system to work the RB yrds should pick up. Clearly OL was a major issue and I would probably pick up a replacement for Rabach first at Center. I feel the Guards don't need to be as talented as the 3 major base points of the OL meaning LT, Center, and RT. If those 3 positions are fixed I think our current OL will fill in nicely at guard ie; Heyer, Hicks, and Montgomery and Lickenstien (sp). So in all actuality I'm saying the OL needs to be addressed, but RB does not. Torain is a really good runner, but I'll admit he needs to work on his blocking. This can be fixed with the team helping him learn where the rush should be coming from over the summer. Also some coach's do great things with a #1 RB, some coach's make #1 RB's out of the scheme they run which is where MS stands. I just thing spending a high pick for a RB or WR is a luxury at this point plus it all depends on what the team does in FA.

You mention NT and I agree with you and it was on my list of needs, but I was pleasantly supprised with the guy who played NT yesterday. I think he will work out and possibly pick up a second NT in case our guy gets hurt or needs a break.

I would pick BPA at our needed positions of Center, RT, or NT with the first 2 picks. If picking up a RT is easy late in the draft then so be it pick up a Center and NT. However I don't think Grossman is our answer completely and I'm not sure what Beck is going to offer. So we might want to look into a project QB to develope for a year. Which I brought up the TCU QB Andy Dalton, he seemed accurat, fast, strong armed, and seemed over all a decent kid. If the team could possibly drop down in the draft and pick up a 3rd round pick and hope he's there or throw in a 7th and a 5th to move up? I don't know but he might be a QB who would work well in this scheme.[/quote]

Don't forget Big Mike Williams will be back next year. I love when draft talk starts 4 months early because everything will be completely bass ackwards between now and then. That being said.

I agree we need OLine and DLine upgrades, however, you should not upgrade a line position at the #10 overall pick just to do so. #10 is way too high to use on an interior lineman. You can find really good interior linemen in the later rounds. If we don't trade down we need to take the BPA in high need areas THAT FIT THE PICK. QB, WR, OT, or even NT.

I think that IMO Bryant can be the starting NT for this team and we have much greater areas of need than him. If we stay at #10 and a guy like Mallet or AJ Green is still there, take him. If we can trade down, even better.

Player_HTTR 01-03-2011 01:00 PM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
nevermind

Chico23231 01-03-2011 01:02 PM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
[quote=SBXVII;774719]QB Andrew Luck might not be a bad choice either I just didn't see him play.

[url]http://sports.ap.org/college-football/andrew-luck[/url]

QB Andy Dalton;

[url=http://sports.ap.org/college-football/andy-dalton]Andy Dalton | QB | TCU Horned Frogs[/url][/quote]

Yeah, Luck is not coming out. He's staying or he goes in the top 3 picks.

Chico23231 01-03-2011 01:03 PM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
[quote=SBXVII;774717]Someone also mentioned the Center from University of Florida. He was big, fast and was nimble enough to pull on run plays.

I guess thats the Pouncy kid....

[url=http://www.gatorzone.com/football/bios.php?year=2010&player_id=122]Gator Football Roster/Bios - GatorZone.com[/url][/quote]

So who you like with the 10th pick?


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