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Since we are slowly accepting that we are moving into rebuilding mode, we need to realize that certain players are worth trying to cash in for draft picks. What kind of players can we trade and still get decent value? I'm thinking of guys who will be past their prime in a few years when we are ready to compete. This includes guys like santana moss, chris cooley, etc.

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Can teams trade a coach. I mean id trade Hasslett. Im sure we could get something for him. Id trade him staight up for a lock of Troy Polamalu's hair. Im sure TP's hair wouldnt give up as much yardage as this years d.

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You can't get good value for your tight ends because supply exceeds demand, though you probably could get a late pick for either if you were desperate for a roster spot.

Landry and Orakpo both have trade value, and neither will likely be traded. Haynesworth and McNabb both have trade value, but not very much. Torain might actually have a morsel of trade value for a RB desperate team such as Green Bay. Nothing more than a 6th round pick there though.

It's Haynesworth and McNabb. If you can get a late round pick for either, you're doing well for yourself.

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[quote=cdskins26;776467]Since we are slowly accepting that we are moving into rebuilding mode, we need to realize that certain players are worth trying to cash in for draft picks. What kind of players can we trade and still get decent value? I'm thinking of guys who will be past their prime in a few years when we are ready to compete. This includes guys like santana moss, chris cooley, etc.[/quote]

Moss is a free agent.

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Haslett did a good job this yr folks, ask GB how hard it was to change systems.

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I say we trade Rogers, Moss, and McIntosh. As well as Golston, Heyer, Doughty, Wilson, and Bidwell. All of those guys are excellent grade A trade bait. So awesome and amazing and awesome.

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Fred Davis, Andre Carter (maybe), Albert, McNabb, DeAngelo

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I don't see any trades unless its Davis and McNabb, Hall isn't going anywhere

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the only guys worth trading would be Haynsworth but nobody will give up anything for him cause they know that we will more than likely release him.

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all pending a CBA

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[quote=skinsfaninok;776509]I don't see any trades unless its Davis and McNabb, Hall isn't going anywhere[/quote]

Unlikely they'd trade Hall but in terms of guys they could trade and get value for, Hall is near the top of the list

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True , SS take a wild guess and say what the chances are we get NNamdi ?I know your not a future teller but you know the organization well

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I don't know but I don't see him in our plans right now

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Oakland is crazy letting him go

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[quote=SmootSmack;776499]Fred Davis, Andre Carter (maybe), Albert, McNabb, DeAngelo[/quote]

I'd start with Hall since he's a pro-bowler which he won't be next year and go for Nnadmi in FA.

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Williams and Orakpo but they are too valuable. The only other guy they might be able to get something for is Cooley but I'm not sure they'd get much for him. They Skins just dont have anybody that will bring much in a trade.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;776532]Oakland is crazy letting him go[/quote]
It's not like they cut him, well not directly.

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Haynseworth trade rumor....
Doesn't look like it has much meat to it though.

[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/14083/Lions-might-make-a-run-at-Albert-Haynesworth/Default.aspx]Lions might make a run at Albert Haynesworth[/url]

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I'd like to see Suh punch Haynesworth in his face.

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When it comes to trade bait with our guys, I think at this point if we could package guys and trade for other players we could get the best value. McNabb and Hynesworth value is too dimished at this point.

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There were rumors of Lions looking at AH this past offseason too. Haynesworth sent Kyle Vanden Bosch to the Pro Bowl a couple of times while playing side by side. Him, Haynesworth, Suh, and whoever the other end us.. being coached by Schwartz, who coached them in Tennessee? That's probably good for a few wins alone next year.

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I think the large FA pool diminishes any and all of our trade-able players

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Ok, here's my bright idea.... we trade Doug Dutch for whoever we are looking to pick up, then when he gets cut we pick him back up and do it all over again. ;)

I mean it worked once. We got Beck and we picked Dutch back up after the Ravens cut him.

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[quote=tryfuhl;776571]There were rumors of Lions looking at AH this past offseason too. Haynesworth sent Kyle Vanden Bosch to the Pro Bowl a couple of times while playing side by side. Him, Haynesworth, Suh, and whoever the other end us.. being coached by Schwartz, who coached them in Tennessee? That's probably good for a few wins alone next year.[/quote]

Considering that BOTH Suh and Haynesworth command double teams, teams would have to bring in a tackle-eligible for every play against the Lions D.

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The only team remotely interested in AH at this point is the Titans. Some of the other teams mentioned up here (detroit) ended up passing b/c they didn't want Haynesworth no where near Suh during his development. They were right.

Right now, teams would have to give up a pick and pay him 5.4 mil for the season, and you'll be hard pressed to find any team who is going to want to give up that much for a head case like Albert. Sad thing is, Albert (much like TO and Moss) have put themselves in their predicaments.

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[quote=NC_Skins;776708]The only team remotely interested in AH at this point is the Titans. Some of the other teams mentioned up here (detroit) ended up passing b/c they didn't want Haynesworth no where near Suh during his development. They were right.

Right now, teams would have to give up a pick and pay him 5.4 mil for the season, and you'll be hard pressed to find any team who is going to want to give up that much for a head case like Albert. Sad thing is, Albert (much like TO and Moss) have put themselves in their predicaments.[/quote]

I agree -- this seems right to me. But I will say, the combo of AH and Suh would be pretty scary. As would AH plus Seymour in Oakland, and Al Davis is just crazy enough to do it.

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I'll bet Minny picks up AH to replace Pat Williams.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;776566]Haynseworth trade rumor....
Doesn't look like it has much meat to it though.

[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/14083/Lions-might-make-a-run-at-Albert-Haynesworth/Default.aspx]Lions might make a run at Albert Haynesworth[/url][/quote]

That's like giving an unstable nuke to a third world country with political instability. Suh and a motivated Haynesworth would be unstoppable.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;776679]Considering that BOTH Suh and Haynesworth command double teams, teams would have to bring in a tackle-eligible for every play against the Lions D.[/quote]

I was thinking the same thing. Jim Schwartz is familiar w/ AH. His system fits AH. Could you imagine a line w/ SUH and AH? AH plays well when he's not in a 3/4. I think it would be a good fit. Why not give us a 4th for him?

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[quote=redsk1;776748]I was thinking the same thing. Jim Schwartz is familiar w/ AH. His system fits AH. Could you imagine a line w/ SUH and AH? AH plays well when he's not in a 3/4. I think it would be a good fit. [B] Why not give us a 4th for him?[/B][/quote]

B/c nobody else (okay [I]maybe[/I] the Titans) wants him [I]and[/I], if no one takes him off our hands we are likely to cut him. Why give us more than a 7th (to avoid paying a signing bonus) for him? At best a 6th so that we don't trade him to the Titans instead.

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[quote=redsk1;776748]I was thinking the same thing. Jim Schwartz is familiar w/ AH. His system fits AH. Could you imagine a line w/ SUH and AH? AH plays well when he's not in a 3/4. I think it would be a good fit. Why not give us a 4th for him?[/quote]

Why have us give up a 3rd for Brunell? It's not like Haynesworth needs to be in camp to learn the system. If anything the only leverage we have with Haynesworth (as with McNabb) is having other teams becoming nervous about having to compete in the open market.

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[quote=redsk1;776748]I was thinking the same thing. Jim Schwartz is familiar w/ AH. His system fits AH. Could you imagine a line w/ SUH and AH? AH plays well when he's not in a 3/4. I think it would be a good fit. Why not give us a 4th for him?[/quote]

They should do it.

We get rid of him...and they have possibly the scariest D-line ever, with some moderate risk.

Win-win.



Do we play them next season? I hope not.

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For a team badly in need of players, I really don't see who we could trade that would fetch any value more than what the player would mean to us. Our established players are the teams core, our younger players have not [especially those who started for the first time this year] played enough to be able to submit a trade resume. Moss, McIntosh and Rogers are unrestricted, free to sign with any team, it's not likely the team will trade Cooley, one of it's most productive players. Orakpo, Landry and Hall aren't likely to be traded, after these players you have to search deep to find more players with trade value.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;776566]Haynseworth trade rumor....
Doesn't look like it has much meat to it though.

[URL="http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/14083/Lions-might-make-a-run-at-Albert-Haynesworth/Default.aspx"]Lions might make a run at Albert Haynesworth[/URL][/quote]


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If Jim Schwartz could be successful in getting Haynesworth to play to the level that earned him two trips to the pro-bowl, he and Suh together would be illegal.

I doubt they'd be stupid enough to give us back out 2nd and [condt] we gave up for McNabb but. anything that would make the saga go away.

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[quote=Longtimefan;776771]If Jim Schwartz could be successful in getting Haynesworth to play to the level that earned him two trips to the pro-bowl, he and Suh together would be illegal.

I doubt they'd be stupid enough to give us back out 2nd and [condt] we gave up for McNabb but. anything that would make the saga go away.[/quote]


I gotta think the Skins would take what they can get, like a 4th or higher. A 5th? Not so sure. I'm sure priority #1 is cutting ties w/ this guy.

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Lets get picks for Haynesworth & McNabb. Sick of this drama. I dont blame McNabb, a few games he looked decent but its obvious he doesnt fit with Shanny program either.

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[quote=redsk1;776774]I gotta think the Skins would take what they can get, [I]like a 4th or higher. A 5th[/I]? Not so sure. I'm sure priority #1 is cutting ties w/ this guy.[/quote]

So we need to get rid of him and you think other teams don't know that? You don't think other teams realize he's a headcase? Who in their right mind would offer a 4th round pick for a guy they can pretty much guarrantee will be out on the street in a couple months. Sorry, if someone offers us a 5th, we should show AH the door and fall to our knees in gratitude for small miracles.

I hope I am wrong but I don't see us getting more than a 5th and 6th (total) for McNabb and AH. More likely a couple of 6th's or a 6th and 7th.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;776926]So we need to get rid of him and you think other teams don't know that? You don't think other teams realize he's a headcase? Who in their right mind would offer a 4th round pick for a guy they can pretty much guarrantee will be out on the street in a couple months. Sorry, if someone offers us a 5th, we should show AH the door and fall to our knees in gratitude for small miracles.

I hope I am wrong but I don't see us getting more than a 5th and 6th (total) for McNabb and AH. More likely a couple of 6th's or a 6th and 7th.[/quote]

Well theres the problem. Yes, other teams know that we don't want this guy. So, we can't expect a high return for him. Do i know what that's going to be? No. There's got to be some leverage though. That's why I'm not a GM. Maybe we take a 5th and be happy about it. Maybe a 6th or 7th? Maybe no one offers us anything and we just cut him...

I'm just saying AH is a great player (when he wants to be). He might be worth a 4th rounder for the Lions. It's possible.

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did somebody really say that Williams and Orakpo are good trade bait .. THEY ARE SUPER YOUNG AND LONG TERM PRO BOWLERS ... you don't give those guys up .. what planet are you on