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KI Skins Fan 02-08-2011 11:31 AM

2011 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board
 
Here is some information that I found interesting. It was compiled by Walter Cherepinsky on his site Walterfootball.com.

With Andrew Luck out of the draft, there is no consensus #1 pick at this time. There is also no consensus Top 5.

I tend to doubt that there will be a "no brainer" pick for us at #10. Perhaps trading down, if possible, and spreading the risk of making a mistake over more picks would make sense for the Skins because we'll have a lot of holes to fill, even after signing some Free Agents.

Walter Cherepinsky:

"I thought it would be interesting to combine some of the prominent 2011 NFL Draft Big Boards to form one consensus big board.

Below are the average big board positions of the top prospects in the 2011 NFL Draft. I looked at four different big boards: Mel Kiper (ESPN), Todd McShay (ESPN), Rob Rang (CBS) and Scott Wright's (DraftCountdown.com). I also wanted to include Chris Steuber's big board data, but I couldn't find it."

Updated Feb. 5

1. Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU: 2.5
High: 1 (Rang); Low: 4 (Kiper)

2. Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn: 2.5
High: 1 (Kiper); Low: 5 (Wright)

3. A.J. Green, WR, Georgia: 3.0
High: 1 (Wright); Low: 4 (Multi)

4. Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson: 3.25
High: 1 (McShay); Low: 7 (Wright)

5. Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama: 5.5
High: 4 (Wright); Low: 8 (McShay)

6. Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina: 6.25
High: 3 (Wright); Low: 9 (McShay)

7. Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska: 6.5
High: 6 (Multi); Low: 8 (Rang)

8. Von Miller, OLB, Texas A&M: 7.75
High: 7 (Multi); Low: 9 (Wright)

9. Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri: 8.5
High: 5 (McShay); Low: 10 (Multi)

10. Julio Jones, WR, Alabama: 10.75
High: 8 (Wright); Low: 14 (McShay)

11. Nate Solder, OT, Colorado: 13.25
High: 10 (Kiper); Low: 18 (Wright)

12. Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri: 14.5
High: 11 (Multi); Low: 21 (McShay)

13. Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa: 16.25
High: 13 (Wright); Low: 20 (Kiper)

14. Akeem Ayers, OLB, UCLA: 17
High: 11 (Kiper); Low: 26 (Rang)

15. Cameron Jordan, DE, California: 17.25
High: 13 (Rang); Low: 22 (McShay)

16. Cam Newton, QB, Auburn: 17.5
High: 13 (Kiper); Low: 28 (McShay)

17. Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue: 17.75
High: 16 (Kiper); Low: 20 (Rang)

18. Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama: 18.5
High: 16 (Rang); Low: 21 (Wright)

19. Tyron Smith, OT, USC: 19.25
High: 13 (McShay); Low: 26 (Wright)

20. Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College: 19.5
High: 12 (Rang); Low: 25 (McShay)

21. J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin: 23
High: 21 (Kiper); Low: 27 (McShay)

22. Jake Locker, QB, Washington: 23.25
High: 12 (Wright); Low: Unranked (Kiper)

23. Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois: 24
High: 10 (McShay); Low: Unranked (Kiper)

24. Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin: 24.25
High: 17 (McShay); Low: Unranked (Wright)

25. Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado: 27.5
High: 12 (McShay); Low: Unranked (Multi)

26. Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State: 27.75
High: 21 (Rang); Low: Unranked (Multi)

27. Brandon Harris, CB, Miami: 28.25
High: 23 (Wright); Low: Unranked (Multi)

28. Muhammad Wilkerson, DT, Temple: 28.25
High: 23 (Kiper); Low: Unranked (Multi)

29. Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State: 28.5
High: 25 (Wright); Low: Unranked (Kiper)

30. Mikel LeShoure, RB, Illinois: 29.25
High: 18 (Rang); Low: Unranked (Multi)

31. Mike Pouncey, G, Florida: 29.5
High: 19 (McShay); Low: Unranked (Multi)

32. Justin Houston, DE/OLB, Georgia: 30
High: 26 (McShay); Low: Unranked (Multi)

Monkeydad 02-08-2011 12:08 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board
 
Just get the highest-ranked O-lineman.

11. Nate Solder, OT, Colorado: 13.25
High: 10 (Kiper); Low: 18 (Wright)

Alvin Walton 02-08-2011 12:31 PM

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Wow...Patrick Peterson has been shooting up the boards lately.

I'd take the guy who's at the #10 spot or Solder would work for me too.
I kinda rate our needs even at QB/OL/WR.

KI Skins Fan 02-08-2011 12:42 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;783388]Wow...Patrick Peterson has been shooting up the boards lately.

I'd take the guy who's at the #10 spot or Solder would work for me too.
[B]I kinda rate our needs even at QB/OL/WR[/B][B].[/B][/quote]

Blaine Gabbert is ranked higher than the other two you mentioned. Do you see Gabbert as a higher risk pick than Jones or Solder? I ask because there are some questions about Gabbert but there are also questions about each of the others, as well.

It seems to me that if you're going to take a risk at #10, then you should take the risk on a QB because, if he pans out, then the reward is higher at that position.

I admit that all of the QB's in this draft scare me a little as Top 10 picks. That's one of the reasons why I would consider trading down, if possible.

Ruhskins 02-08-2011 01:43 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board
 
With such a huge need at NT, I think the Redskins should target Phil Taylor, the DT from Baylor University. This kid is 6-4, 340 lbs and he seems fit for the 3-4 NT position. The question is where is he going to go? Late first round or early second round.

redsk1 02-08-2011 02:08 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;783388]Wow...Patrick Peterson has been shooting up the boards lately.

I'd take the guy who's at the #10 spot or Solder would work for me too.
I kinda rate our needs even at QB/OL/WR.[/quote]

Patrick Peterson from what I've heard from some reports (online, radio) is a crazy athlete and more important a lock down type corner who can hit. Not a bad draft pick.

We really should be able to get a great player at #10 if that's what we do. This years draft is solid.

skinsfaninok 02-08-2011 02:50 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;783388]Wow...Patrick Peterson has been shooting up the boards lately.

I'd take the guy who's at the #10 spot or Solder would work for me too.
I kinda rate our needs even at QB/OL/WR.[/quote]

He's compared to Woodson and Bailey

CultBrennan59 02-08-2011 03:04 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board
 
[quote=Ruhskins;783427]With such a huge need at NT, I think the Redskins should target Phil Taylor, the DT from Baylor University. This kid is 6-4, 340 lbs and he seems fit for the 3-4 NT position. The question is where is he going to go? Late first round or early second round.[/quote]

I'm in full agreement with you there bro. Him and Von Miller would be a dream draft IMO. But I know Taylor could go as high as 30 to the Jets. Miller could be gone by the 7th overall pick.

Green Bay did show, as well as pittsburgh, that with a dominant NT and Outside rusher(s) you can win lots of games in the NFL, as well as championships.

SFREDSKIN 02-08-2011 03:09 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board
 
[quote=redsk1;783432]Patrick Peterson from what I've heard from some reports (online, radio) is a crazy athlete and more important a lock down type corner who can hit. Not a bad draft pick.

We really should be able to get a great player at #10 if that's what we do. This years draft is solid.[/quote]

The Cowboys and Broncos want him badly.

Alvin Walton 02-08-2011 03:10 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;783396]Blaine Gabbert is ranked higher than the other two you mentioned. Do you see Gabbert as a higher risk pick than Jones or Solder? I ask because there are some questions about Gabbert but there are also questions about each of the others, as well.

It seems to me that if you're going to take a risk at #10, then you should take the risk on a QB because, if he pans out, then the reward is higher at that position.

I admit that all of the QB's in this draft scare me a little as Top 10 picks. That's one of the reasons why I would consider trading down, if possible.[/quote]

I suppose I'm just assuming Gabbert will be gone when we pick. But yea, acquiring a QB scares the hell outa me when we use a #1 one on him.
If he fails its more of a high profile fail and sets us back even further than any other position IMHO.

SmootSmack 02-08-2011 03:11 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board
 
[quote=Ruhskins;783427]With such a huge need at NT, I think the Redskins should target Phil Taylor, the DT from Baylor University. This kid is 6-4, 340 lbs and he seems fit for the 3-4 NT position. The question is where is he going to go? Late first round or early second round.[/quote]

It's going to be interesting to see how teams feel about Taylor's character

warriorzpath 02-08-2011 03:16 PM

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Am I missing something??? -- I don't see what all the media draft experts see in Blaine Gabbert.

warriorzpath 02-08-2011 03:19 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board
 
They might not be worth a top 10 pick, but I think Newton and Locker are better than Gabbert.

skinsfaninok 02-08-2011 03:19 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board
 
[quote=warriorzpath;783461]Am I missing something??? -- I don't see what all the media draft experts see in Blaine Gabbert.[/quote]

This

redsk1 02-08-2011 03:20 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;783453]The Cowboys and Broncos want him badly.[/quote]

I'm pretty disgusted the Cowboys have a top 10 this year. They've got too much talent to be in the top 10. I'm still glad they choked their season away, of course.

skinsfaninok 02-08-2011 03:23 PM

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[quote=redsk1;783466]I'm pretty disgusted the Cowboys have a top 10 this year. They've got too much talent to be in the top 10. I'm still glad they choked their season away, of course.[/quote]

Their talent isn't as good as many think.. They have a old ass OLine and honestly a very avg secondary. Jenkins had a horrific season.

Ruhskins 02-08-2011 03:33 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;783457]It's going to be interesting to see how teams feel about Taylor's character[/quote]

Interesting, I didn't know much about him other than what I saw in a few articles around the senior bowl. He seems to be one of the few guys with the physique of a 3-4 NT, so I'd be curious how character balances out with need. What did he do? (Just curious).

SmootSmack 02-08-2011 03:53 PM

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He's gotten into some ill-advised fights. Believe some assault charges are what got him kicked out of Penn State

Son Of Man 02-08-2011 06:13 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board
 
I'm all for taking #16 at #10!!!

SkinzWin 02-08-2011 07:34 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board
 
Von Miller should definitely be our #10 pick over anyone else IMO. If he is gone at #10, I think it is open to whoever is the best available player in a position of need. I think that lends itself to the defensive side of the ball. With the exception of LT, which we already have in Trent, you would be reaching to draft any other line position there and the QB class frankly scares me at that high in the draft.

SOUL-SKINS 02-08-2011 08:07 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board
 
[quote=SkinzWin;783506]Von Miller should definitely be our #10 pick over anyone else IMO. If he is gone at #10, I think it is open to whoever is the best available player in a position of need. I think that lends itself to the defensive side of the ball. With the exception of LT, which we already have in Trent, you would be reaching to draft any other line position there and the QB class frankly scares me at that high in the draft.[/quote]

Agreed. But he won't make past pick 6 unfortunately

Lotus 02-08-2011 08:25 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board
 
[quote=SkinzWin;783506]Von Miller should definitely be our #10 pick over anyone else IMO. If he is gone at #10, I think it is open to whoever is the best available player in a position of need. I think that lends itself to the defensive side of the ball. With the exception of LT, which we already have in Trent, you would be reaching to draft any other line position there and the QB class frankly scares me at that high in the draft.[/quote]

Should Von Miller be gone I propose:
1st round Cameron Jordan DE
2nd round Phil Taylor NT (he falls to us because of character concerns)

Voila! Overnight we go from an unimpressive front three on defense to a formidable front three, thus making the entire defense better.

My two cents.

warpaint 02-08-2011 08:32 PM

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;783509]Agreed. But he won't make past pick 6 unfortunately[/quote]

I sure hope he is gone. Call it a gut feeling but dude their is something i dont trust about him. Baby Haynesworth

SOUL-SKINS 02-08-2011 08:52 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board
 
[quote=Lotus;783512]Should Von Miller be gone I propose:
1st round Cameron Jordan DE
2nd round Phil Taylor NT (he falls to us because of character concerns)

Voila! Overnight we go from an unimpressive front three on defense to a formidable front three, thus making the entire defense better.

My two cents.[/quote]

Don't know why but I think we should stay away from Jordan. Taylor would be nice but he's probably gone by mid to late first round. Quinn is pretty impressive but he is more if a 4-3 type. I just dunno. We have so many needs!! If we lost that meaningless Jags game we'd be picking 6th. Alot more would be avail. Plus it's really hard to guess what any team is going to pick until after free agency. Alot of teams could fill a need thru FA then have a completely different outlook on their draft. For example when the Skins traded for Mcnabb..... We then had no talk about us taking a Qb in last years draft. So it's all speculation at this point.

30gut 02-08-2011 10:11 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board
 
[quote=Buster;783385]Just get the highest-ranked O-lineman.

11. Nate Solder, OT, Colorado: 13.25
High: 10 (Kiper); Low: 18 (Wright)[/quote]

I like the way you think:
[quote=30gut-12-27-2010;772963]Where do you think we need to improve along the OL and how?
How would this OL look next year:
LT-Trent Williams
LG-Corey Lichtensteiger
C-Will Montgomery
RG-FA Logan Mankins/Davin Joseph
RT-Draftee Derrek Sherrod
[/quote]

Terpfan76 02-09-2011 08:31 AM

Re: 2011 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board
 
I'm really intrigued by the thought of getting R. Quinn. I think it's a foregone conclusion that Von Miller will be gone when we pick. While Quinn comes from a 4-3 defense, he has the skill set to translate into a top notch rush linebacker in the 3-4.

I think Solder could develop into a stud tackle as he has excellent mobility, he was recruited as a TE, he is still a bit raw and it wouldn't make much sense to go after a tackle that high when we have Jamaal Brown. We definitely need to look for youth at the position, but it's not as great a need right now as it will be in a year or two. We need impact players that can start or earn significant playing time early as opposed to project players.

My draft, if all things fell together:

1) V. Miller or R. Quinn
2) R. Hudson or S. Wisniewski or P. Taylor

Chico23231 02-09-2011 09:32 AM

Re: 2011 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board
 
I think in regards to ranking the talent, this is by far the best, most accurate I think.

I would like Von Miller at 10 for us...but I think the best value are the several of the DEs in the teens. So if Miller is gone, trade back and grab one.

Its very scary to me Blane Gabbert is rated that high

Mechanix544 02-10-2011 03:01 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board
 
trade down, pick up locker at 23 or 24, add another 3rd rounder, and get the best OL in the 2nd and best LBs with the 3rd round picks

CultBrennan59 02-20-2011 11:19 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Draft Consensus Big Board
 
I was looking at the Oregon team, especially the Defense, and all their prospects, and I got to say that their team has a lot of good players on it, whom I think are very NFL caliber and could definitely help us, especially in the later rounds.
OLB Kenny Rowe
ILB/OLB Casey Matthews
DE/DT Brandon Bair
WR Jeff Maehl
We could easily get all these guys in, at the earliest, the 4th round (Matthews could make a late push to be drafted in the second round), but most of these guys are 5,6,7th rounders.


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