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Not only did Christina Aguilera butcher the NA she also screwed up the words. I'm just surprised the NFL allows these singers to keep butchering our national anthem.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5WVDARznt8"]YouTube - Whitney Houston - Super Bowl XXV (1991) - The National Anthem (the definitive version)[/ame]

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Eh, she's not the first one to mess it up. Shit happens, it's not like she did it on purpose. People take this shit so personally like she went out took a dump on the flag, even my Mom was all fired up about it. I'm like give her a break she made a mistake, jeez.

As for Whitney, kinda hard to mess it up when you're lip syncing. At least Christina was really singing.

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You're surprised the NFL "allows" the singers to butcher the anthem? Pretty sure they see hiring grammy award winners/music superstars to sing the anthem as a safe bet for a good performance. It's unfortunate when someone makes a mistake, and I'm sure no one is more upset about it than Aguilera.

That said, it was a pretty bad rendition.

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It was horrible! Ranked up there with Rosanne Barr's version of the national anthem to me! I love Christina's voice, but what was she thinking? I think the National Anthem's melody is beautiful enough without people trying to put their own stamp on it. Just sing it like it was written!

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It's all about entertainment, people need to get over it. Besides, it's already an embarrassment to her and she takes a PR hit, which is not a good thing when you are an artist. There are more important things to worry about.

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I haven't even bothered looking to see if she had some technical issues regarding how bad it sounded, because normally that girl can flat out sing. Not a fan of her music, but she's definitely got some pipes. She just went overboard with it for whatever reason.

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Well, the National Anthem to me is more than just entertainment. It means a lot to me and when I hear someone sing it well (without all these crazy runs and changing melodies) then it gives me goosebumps every time I hear it. When someone tries to over sing it the way C.A. did, then it gets annoying. And don't get me wrong, I LOVE Christina's voice. She has an amazing talent, but she did screw the pooch on this one.

While I have never sang the National Anthem in front of a Super Bowl crowd, I have sang the National Anthem in front of a large crowd at baseball games, so I understand the nervousness. But, at the same time, she is a professional, grammy nominated singer and I'm not, so I'm not sure I could believe the nervous in front of a crowd bit.

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[quote=skinsguy;783410][B]Well, the National Anthem to me is more than just entertainment.[/B] It means a lot to me and when I hear someone sing it well (without all these crazy runs and changing melodies) then it gives me goosebumps every time I hear it. When someone tries to over sing it the way C.A. did, then it gets annoying. And don't get me wrong, I LOVE Christina's voice. She has an amazing talent, but she did screw the pooch on this one.

While I have never sang the National Anthem in front of a Super Bowl crowd, I have sang the National Anthem in front of a large crowd at baseball games, so I understand the nervousness. But, at the same time, she is a professional, grammy nominated singer and I'm not, so I'm not sure I could believe the nervous in front of a crowd bit.[/quote]

Unfortunately it is for the NFL. I hear what you are saying and respect it. And maybe organizations like the NFL should be more careful selecting who sings the anthem so it is not over the top like that. I still think it was a mistake, and I feel that Christina is paying for it with the bad PR.

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I definitely commend her for coming out and singing it live though! I mean, it isn't a very easy song to sing, especially when it's at an event such as the Super Bowl. I wouldn't necessarily say that the NFL made a mistake in choosing C.A. I really don't know how they go through the process of choosing a singer, but I would think maybe they would want to hear that singer's rendition of it prior to making a decision.

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I soon predict this thread being moved to debating with the enemy.

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[quote=Mattyk;783394]Eh, she's not the first one to mess it up. Shit happens, it's not like she did it on purpose. People take this shit so personally like she went out took a dump on the flag, even my Mom was all fired up about it. I'm like give her a break she made a mistake, jeez.

As for Whitney, kinda hard to mess it up when you're lip syncing. At least Christina was really singing.[/quote]

Preach.

Skinsguy, that's pretty cool that you sang the anthem at ball games

I hate, hate, hate when Orioles fans (it's mainly O's fans that do this) yell out Oh!! at "O, say can you see"

I'm not a fan of messing around with the tune of the song, but it is kind of funny though how this cherished anthem's tune is based on a drinking song.

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[quote=Mattyk;783394]Eh, she's not the first one to mess it up. Shit happens, it's not like she did it on purpose. People take this shit so personally like she went out took a dump on the flag, even my Mom was all fired up about it. I'm like give her a break she made a mistake, jeez.

As for Whitney, kinda hard to mess it up when you're lip syncing. At least Christina was really singing.[/quote]

I really don't care that she made a mistake its the total butchering of the anthem that sucked. Just sing the song.

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[quote=Ruhskins;783411]Unfortunately it is for the NFL. I hear what you are saying and respect it. And maybe organizations like the NFL should be more careful selecting who sings the anthem so it is not over the top like that. I still think it was a mistake, and I feel that Christina is paying for it with the bad PR.[/quote]
To give the NFL credit I think the NFL NEt work is the only station that actually show the singing of the NA before their games.

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[quote=SmootSmack;783439]Preach.

Skinsguy, that's pretty cool that you sang the anthem at ball games

I hate, hate, hate when Orioles fans (it's mainly O's fans that do this) yell out Oh!! at "O, say can you see"

I'm not a fan of messing around with the tune of the song, but it is kind of funny though how this cherished anthem's tune is based on a drinking song.[/quote]


I went to the GU vs. PC men's b-ball game (this past Saturday) and one guy behind me yelled "O" but like no one else did it. After the song a few people around us told him that was disrespectful. He was all apologetic. I kind of felt bad for him becaue he probaly assumed a few others would do it but I guess the Nat's have converted O's fans in DC. It was literally like farting at a quiet moment in church that is how awkward it was for this guy.

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I thought this was one of the best web redemtions hes had:

[URL="http://tosh.comedycentral.com/video-clips/web-redemption---national-anthem-fail"]Tosh.0: Web Redemption - National Anthem Fail - Video Clip | Tosh.0 | Comedy Central[/URL]

God Hates Flags!

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Did you know the actual national anthem was made by taking the melody from a popular drinking song "To Anacreon in Heaven", and pairing it with the lyrics of Francis Scott Key?

I never knew that either until today. I thought it was an original composition. It's still patriotic obviously, but this blew my mind.

[URL="http://www.astrococktail.com/anacreon.html"]http://www.astrococktail.com
/anacreon.html[/URL]

Listen for yourself, it's crazy. It goes literally note for note.

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[quote=firstdown;783440]I really don't care that she made a mistake its the total butchering of the anthem that sucked. Just sing the song.[/quote]

Without multiplying the number of syllables in every word by 4.

The WAY she sang the Anthem was disrespectful, just as much as not knowing the words. It's meant to be sung the way it was written, not mutilated into a pop song to bring attention on yourself. It's a reverent song, not meant for entertainment.

Sing it properly and if you have to sing it publicly, MEMORIZE THE WORDS. She has been singing it since she was a kid in the Mickey Mouse Club and it a professional singer (even though she's a horrible one). There are no excuses for her botching the words.

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[quote=Buster;783480]Without multiplying the number of syllables in every word by 4.

The WAY she sang the Anthem was disrespectful, just as much as not knowing the words. It's meant to be sung the way it was written, not mutilated into a pop song to bring attention on yourself. It's a reverent song, not meant for entertainment.

Sing it properly and if you have to sing it publicly, MEMORIZE THE WORDS. She has been singing it since she was a kid in the Mickey Mouse Club and it a professional singer (even though she's a horrible one). There are no excuses for her botching the words.[/quote]


So what should we do with her? Kill her, kick her out of the country, etc...? What would be good.

We are humans and we make mistakes, honestly IMO this is a little one, just move on.

You know surgeons and doctors make mistakes as well that end up killing folks. I would worry more about those mistakes then CA's singing error.

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I don't think people are as concerned about her mistakes as much as the way she sung the song in general. Water under the bridge now, certainly. She's still an amazing singer, but I wouldn't doubt the NFL maybe doing a canned version the next go around.

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[quote=Buster;783480]Without multiplying the number of syllables in every word by 4.

The WAY she sang the Anthem was disrespectful, just as much as not knowing the words. It's meant to be sung the way it was written, not mutilated into a pop song to bring attention on yourself. It's a reverent song, not meant for entertainment.

Sing it properly and if you have to sing it publicly, MEMORIZE THE WORDS. She has been singing it since she was a kid in the Mickey Mouse Club and it a professional singer (even though she's a horrible one). There are no excuses for her botching the words.[/quote]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I got no problem with new renditions of the National Anthem. I loved the way Jim Cornelison did it at the NFC Championship game (even though it sounded slightly Canadian). I hated the way Agularia did it, but ive learned awhile ago the superbowl isnt for big pro-football fan, its for mass appeal including foreigners, emos and girls who dont even really know whats going on so they can have water cooler conversations about the commercials, pop National Anthem mixes, pop music half time shows and all the other bullshit most regular football fans hate. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I do got a little problem with her messing up the words, but everyone makes mistakes and even the President of America is bound to leave out words when quoting the Declaration of Independence, even with his teleprompter. Its just human nature that we make mistakes, its carrying on and acting like you didn’t mess up that separates “good” artists or politicians from the rest of us. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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[quote=Buster;783480]Without multiplying the number of syllables in every word by 4.

The WAY she sang the Anthem was disrespectful, just as much as not knowing the words. It's meant to be sung the way it was written, not mutilated into a pop song to bring attention on yourself. It's a reverent song, not meant for entertainment.

Sing it properly and if you have to sing it publicly, MEMORIZE THE WORDS. She has been singing it since she was a kid in the Mickey Mouse Club and it a professional singer (even though she's a horrible one). There are no excuses for her botching the words.[/quote]

I will not say she was disrespectful because I think in her mind she was trying to do her best but went way way way over board. I'll also give her a pass on the words because she was trying so hard to hit all those notes she lost her place in the song. It happens but should not happen on that big of a stage. I'd really like to hear her opinion of how she thinks it sounded.

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[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Video-Aguilera-abruptly-ended-anthem-in-Super-B?urn=nfl-318573]Video: Aguilera abruptly ended anthem in Super Bowl rehearsal - Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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Don't sing the national anthem at sporting events...problem solved. BTW, why do they sing the national anthem at these big gatherings?

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[quote=SmootSmack;783499][URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Video-Aguilera-abruptly-ended-anthem-in-Super-B?urn=nfl-318573"]Video: Aguilera abruptly ended anthem in Super Bowl rehearsal - Shutdown Corner - NFL* - Yahoo! Sports[/URL][/quote]

From your link:
Even in rehearsals, Aguilera gives a magnificent vocal performance. Had she made it through the real thing without the error, her rendition may have gone down with Whitney Houston's 1991 performance as the best in Super Bowl history. Instead, it will be remembered in infamy, all because of a simple mistake.


The people I have heard talking about the NA really did not care she missed a few words they thought the rendition itself sucked. They actually have the nerve to compare it the Whitney Houstons. Some time you just have to wonder who writes this crap.

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[quote=saden1;783508]Don't sing the national anthem at sporting events...problem solved. BTW, why do they sing the national anthem at these big gatherings?[/quote]

Its so we can remember our freedom to gather for events like the SB. They also sing it at small gatherings.

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[quote=firstdown;783539]Its so we can remember our freedom to gather for events like the SB. They also sing it at small gatherings.[/quote]

How about you take a moment at the beginning of your office meetings to sing the national anthem? Do the pledge of allegiance too while you're at it.

Personally, I don't need the anthem to remind me of the freedom afforded to me by our Constitution. To each his own I suppose.

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[quote=saden1;783508]Don't sing the national anthem at sporting events...problem solved. BTW, why do they sing the national anthem at these big gatherings?[/quote][url=http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/16023]mental_floss Blog » Why do we sing the National Anthem at sporting events?[/url]

"After America’s entrance into World War I, Major League Baseball games often featured patriotic rituals, such as players marching in formation during pregame military drills and bands playing patriotic songs. During the seventh-inning stretch of game one of the 1918 World Series, the band erupted into “The Star-Spangled Banner.” The Cubs and Red Sox players faced the centerfield flag pole and stood at attention. The crowd, already on their feet, began to sing along and applauded at the end of the song.

Given the positive reaction, the band played the song during the next two games, and when the Series moved to Boston, the Red Sox owner brought in a band and had the song played before the start of each remaining contest. After the war (and after the song was made the national anthem by a congressional resolution in 1931), the song continued to be played, but only on special occasions like opening day, national holidays and World Series games.

During World War II, baseball games again became venues for large-scale displays of patriotism, and technological advances in public address systems allowed songs to be played without a band. “The Star-Spangled Banner” was played before games throughout the course of the war, and by the time the war was over, the pregame singing of the national anthem had become cemented as a baseball ritual, after which it spread to other sports.

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[quote=saden1;783508]Don't sing the national anthem at sporting events...problem solved. BTW, why do they sing the national anthem at these big gatherings?[/quote]

Why do you hate America?

You probably hate the troops too.

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Is there a rule somewhere stating how the anthem should be sung? Maybe they should start handing out the anthem handbook before hiring these singers.

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Honestly everyone screws it up. The only people that sing it right are the Military chorus members. You may get all of the words right but once you slow down the tempo and put your own personal stamp on the song you have screwed it up.

I don't get upset about it anymore people don't know any better and they are not trying to be disrespectful. Intent is everything as far as I'm concerned. No ill intent, no harm done. It's like being stupid in public, some people just don't know any better.

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[quote=Mattyk;783551]Is there a rule somewhere stating how the anthem should be sung? Maybe they should start handing out the anthem handbook before hiring these singers.[/quote]

Actually there is. AR 600-25 and AR 220-90 and of course [URL="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/The_Star-Spangled_Banner.JPG"]SHEET[/URL] Music.

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Whitney's version which everyone loves, was outside the rules as well

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[quote=saden1;783541]How about you take a moment at the beginning of your office meetings to sing the national anthem? Do the pledge of allegiance too while you're at it.

Personally, I don't need the anthem to remind me of the freedom afforded to me by our Constitution. To each his own I suppose.[/quote]

Well the club I'm in does the pledge before we start any of our meetings. I love watching people reactions when we are having a meeting in a restaurant. We have actually had other people stand up and do the pledge with us. I'm the same as you but its also a tradition like no other.

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[quote=Mattyk;783551]Is there a rule somewhere stating how the anthem should be sung? Maybe they should start handing out the anthem handbook before hiring these singers.[/quote]

If you pull out the sheet music to the NA as it was writen I'm sure it looks nothing like how she sang the song.

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[quote=Mattyk;783566]Whitney's version which everyone loves, was outside the rules as well[/quote]

I'm not sure about that. Didn't she sing that with a military band? If she did change it up it was not very much.

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c'mon Whitney Houston clearly put her own spin on it, that's why it's great

Either way I'm done with this foolishness

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[quote=mredskins;783490]So what should we do with her? Kill her, kick her out of the country, etc...? What would be good.

We are humans and we make mistakes, honestly IMO this is a little one, just move on.

You know surgeons and doctors make mistakes as well that end up killing folks. I would worry more about those mistakes then CA's singing error.[/quote]

The bigger mistake was not hers, but the NFL's for inviting her to sing it. If they've ever seen her perform, they'd know she'd wreck it with her American Idol-kangaroo with a seizure in an earthquake-style of over-vocalizing.

If she's just sing straight, she'd be great. But, she goes for volume and OVERDOING everything. Ruins the talent she could be using.

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[quote=Angry;783565]Actually there is. AR 600-25 and AR 220-90 and of course [URL="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/The_Star-Spangled_Banner.JPG"]SHEET[/URL] Music.[/quote]

Yep, this is equivalent to the equally-as-important "how to fly a flag properly rules". If you screw with them, people will get offended.

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[quote=firstdown;783539]Its so we can remember our freedom to gather for events like the SB. They also sing it at small gatherings.[/quote]

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;783547][url=http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/16023]mental_floss Blog » Why do we sing the National Anthem at sporting events?[/url]

"After America’s entrance into World War I, Major League Baseball games often featured patriotic rituals, such as players marching in formation during pregame military drills and bands playing patriotic songs. During the seventh-inning stretch of game one of the 1918 World Series, the band erupted into “The Star-Spangled Banner.” The Cubs and Red Sox players faced the centerfield flag pole and stood at attention. The crowd, already on their feet, began to sing along and applauded at the end of the song.

Given the positive reaction, the band played the song during the next two games, and when the Series moved to Boston, the Red Sox owner brought in a band and had the song played before the start of each remaining contest. After the war (and after the song was made the national anthem by a congressional resolution in 1931), the song continued to be played, but only on special occasions like opening day, national holidays and World Series games.

During World War II, baseball games again became venues for large-scale displays of patriotism, and technological advances in public address systems allowed songs to be played without a band. “The Star-Spangled Banner” was played before games throughout the course of the war, and by the time the war was over, the pregame singing of the national anthem had become cemented as a baseball ritual, after which it spread to other sports.[/quote]

So it went from being spontaneous to special occasions to everyday at every event? It's usage has been cheapened to serve the needs of owners to elicit emotional reaction of the crowd. Great.