Best/Worst Young Cores
 

What teams the best and worst offensive, defensive, and overall young cores. Guys under 30 (the younger the better) that should be solid starters in the league for years to come is my definition of a young core player.

Worst:
Defensive: Broncos. I read an article recently that said that robert ayers was by far their best front 7 player (and they have zero young secondary starters). Ayers had 1.5 sacks as a pass rusher. Pathetic
Offensive: Unfortunately it seems to be the Redskins. Trent Williams/Chris Cooley are the only solid starters for years to come IMO (I'm not convinced Brown will be here or healthy a few years down the road, and I'm not a believer in anyone else). The seahawks could also be said here, they have Okung and Carlson as their only true young core guys IMO, but Williams and the possibility of tate edge them out as second worst.
Overall: Panthers. I would say broncos, but I think Tebow might pan out. I have zero faith in clausen.

Best
Packers
Packers
Packers
Young and deep on all aspects of the team. The amount of young guys that stepped up to fill in for injured players this year is ridiculous. Ted Thompson deserves all the praise he has been getting.

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[quote=skinster;785549]What teams the best and worst offensive, defensive, and overall young cores. Guys under 30 (the younger the better) that should be solid starters in the league for years to come is my definition of a young core player.

Worst:
Defensive: Broncos. I read an article recently that said that robert ayers was by far their best front 7 player (and they have zero young secondary starters). Ayers had 1.5 sacks as a pass rusher. Pathetic
Offensive: Unfortunately it seems to be the Redskins. Trent Williams/Chris Cooley are the only solid starters for years to come IMO (I'm not convinced Brown will be here or healthy a few years down the road, and I'm not a believer in anyone else). The seahawks could also be said here, they have Okung and Carlson as their only true young core guys IMO, but Williams and the possibility of tate edge them out as second worst.
Overall: Panthers. I would say broncos, but I think Tebow might pan out. I have zero faith in clausen.

Best
Packers
Packers
Packers
Young and deep on all aspects of the team. The amount of young guys that stepped up to fill in for injured players this year is ridiculous. Ted Thompson deserves all the praise he has been getting.[/quote]



Denver has a top 3 DE/LB pass rusher when he's healthy..

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[quote=skinsfaninok;785556]Denver has a top 3 DE/LB pass rusher when he's healthy..[/quote]

I wonder how he will do in the 4-3 defense?

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Elvis.

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[quote=skinster;785549]What teams the best and worst offensive, defensive, and overall young cores. Guys under 30 (the younger the better) that should be solid starters in the league for years to come is my definition of a young core player.

Worst:
Defensive: Broncos. I read an article recently that said that robert ayers was by far their best front 7 player (and they have zero young secondary starters). Ayers had 1.5 sacks as a pass rusher. Pathetic
Offensive: Unfortunately it seems to be the Redskins. Trent Williams/Chris Cooley are the only solid starters for years to come IMO (I'm not convinced Brown will be here or healthy a few years down the road, and I'm not a believer in anyone else). The seahawks could also be said here, they have Okung and Carlson as their only true young core guys IMO, but Williams and the possibility of tate edge them out as second worst.
Overall: Panthers. I would say broncos, but I think Tebow might pan out. I have zero faith in clausen.

Best
Packers
Packers
Packers
Young and deep on all aspects of the team. The amount of young guys that stepped up to fill in for injured players this year is ridiculous. Ted Thompson deserves all the praise he has been getting.[/quote]

Yes, the Packers are just loaded w/ good young talent. Having a top 5, young QB doesn't hurt either.

Besides the Packers, just off the top of my head Phili is very young and good.

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[quote=redsk1;785568]Yes, the Packers are just loaded w/ good young talent. Having a top 5, young QB doesn't hurt either.

Besides the Packers, just off the top of my head [B]Phili is very young and good.[/quote][/B]

Their D is terrible

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[quote=skinsfaninok;785577]Their D is terrible[/quote]

really? They were 5th in yards and 2nd in points.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;785577]Their D is terrible[/quote]I wish we had that "terrible" D ????

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[quote=skinster;785549]What teams the best and worst offensive, defensive, and overall young cores. Guys under 30 (the younger the better) that should be solid starters in the league for years to come is my definition of a young core player.

Worst:
Defensive: Broncos. I read an article recently that said that robert ayers was by far their best front 7 player (and they have zero young secondary starters). Ayers had 1.5 sacks as a pass rusher. Pathetic
Offensive: Unfortunately it seems to be the Redskins. Trent Williams/Chris Cooley are the only solid starters for years to come IMO (I'm not convinced Brown will be here or healthy a few years down the road, and I'm not a believer in anyone else). The seahawks could also be said here, they have Okung and Carlson as their only true young core guys IMO, but Williams and the possibility of tate edge them out as second worst.
Overall: Panthers. I would say broncos, but I think Tebow might pan out. I have zero faith in clausen.

Best
Packers
Packers
Packers
Young and deep on all aspects of the team. The amount of young guys that stepped up to fill in for injured players this year is ridiculous. Ted Thompson deserves all the praise he has been getting.[/quote]

I agree that the Packers/Panthers are best worst.

About the comment about Ayers being the best front 7 player for Denver, I'd say that's without question Elvis Dumervil, he just missed last season with that torn pec muscle.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;785577]Their D is terrible[/quote]

Maybe they had too much confetti in their eyes from winning the SUPER BOWL! Yeah, they suck.

On to the OP, sadly you are right, we are bereft of young talented players on the offensive side of the ball. If Torrian could make it thru 16 games I would say he's serviceable to good and I'm willing to go with Armstrong as a good 'young' (although he's like 28) player, we are hurting badly on that side of the ball.

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[quote=Mattyk;785584]really? They were 5th in yards and 2nd in points.[/quote]

Philly? They gave up like 24 ppg

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He said Phlly is loaded on D right?

Of course I didn't mean GB folks, I'm not a drunk lol

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[quote=skinsfaninok;785649]Philly? They gave up like 24 ppg[/quote]

my bad I thought you were talking about GB

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[quote=Mattyk;785667]my bad I thought you were talking about GB[/quote]

LOL its all good, come on Matty I'm not that crazy.

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[quote=GMScud;785601]I agree that the Packers/Panthers are best worst.

About the comment about Ayers being the best front 7 player for Denver, I'd say that's without question Elvis Dumervil, he just missed last season with that torn pec muscle.[/quote]

I know I was talking about last year. I was trying to emphasize the horrible lack of depth on this team. Even with dumervil, they only have 3 young players on that roster that have a shadows chance of starting 3 years down the road. Dumervil, ayers, and (sort of young) williams. I really do not buy into ayers being an impact player, I do not think that williams will be that effective in 3 years, and I just can't take dumervil seriously as anything other than a pass-rush situation player. I'm not writing any of these guys off, I just think that when a team only has three guys that have potential to start 3 years in the future, they better be very good core players. I just don't see the present guys on the roster carrying the team in the future. Young talent is most needed on this defense more than any other.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;785680]LOL its all good, come on Matty I'm not that crazy.[/quote]

It's hard to keep track sometimes lol

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[quote=Paintrain;785617]Maybe they had too much confetti in their eyes from winning the SUPER BOWL! Yeah, they suck.

On to the OP, sadly you are right, we are bereft of young talented players on the offensive side of the ball. If Torrian could make it thru 16 games I would say he's serviceable to good and I'm willing to go with Armstrong as a good 'young' (although he's like 28) player, we are hurting badly on that side of the ball.[/quote]

I agree with you, but the purpose of this post is to predict what the future will be like. Torrain might be serviceable and young, but I just have zero faith that he will remain that way in the future. Armstrong seems to be serviceable also, but I don't see him as anything but a down field threat. I don't see his speed staying with him in the future.

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[quote=skinster;785770]I know I was talking about last year. I was trying to emphasize the horrible lack of depth on this team. Even with dumervil, they only have 3 young players on that roster that have a shadows chance of starting 3 years down the road. Dumervil, ayers, and (sort of young) williams. I really do not buy into ayers being an impact player, I do not think that williams will be that effective in 3 years, and I just can't take dumervil seriously as anything other than a pass-rush situation player. I'm not writing any of these guys off, I just think that when a team only has three guys that have potential to start 3 years in the future, they better be very good core players. I just don't see the present guys on the roster carrying the team in the future. Young talent is most needed on this defense more than any other.[/quote]

Are you trying to point out that Shannys old team obviously has a lack of young talent and that this could mean you think we have a HC who doesnt build young, talented teams? I'm not even 100% sure I would disagree with that, I'm just looking for some clarification if possible.

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[quote=Jontrem;785773]Are you trying to point out that Shannys old team obviously has a lack of young talent and that this could mean you think we have a HC who doesnt build young, talented teams? I'm not even 100% sure I would disagree with that, I'm just looking for some clarification if possible.[/quote]

It wasn't my original intention, but coincidentally I think Shanny is terrible with personnel (good coach, but s*** with personnel). My original intention of this thread is simply to discuss the future of the NFL, who will be able to play at a high level for years to come.

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[quote=skinster;785795]It wasn't my original intention, but coincidentally I think Shanny is terrible with personnel (good coach, but s*** with personnel). My original intention of this thread is simply to discuss the future of the NFL, who will be able to play at a high level for years to come.[/quote]

Sadly not us right now! This draft/offseason (if there is a real F/A signing period) could tell us alot about how the team will be constructed under Shanny. If he goes for youth over names I will dance a little jig!

And thanks for the clarification, I wasnt trying to be a D-bag or anything just trying to understand

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[quote=Jontrem;785879]Sadly not us right now! This draft/offseason (if there is a real F/A signing period) could tell us alot about how the team will be constructed under Shanny. If he goes for youth over names I will dance a little jig!

And thanks for the clarification, I wasnt trying to be a D-bag or anything just trying to understand[/quote]

I think he will.

Look at the contributors from this year:

Trent Williams
Ryan Torain
Keiland Williams
Brandon Banks
Anthony Bryant
Kevin Barnes
Rob Jackson
Perry Riley
Terrence Austin

plenty more...

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[quote=Buster;785907]I think he will.

Look at the contributors from this year:

Trent Williams
Ryan Torain
Keiland Williams
Brandon Banks
Anthony Bryant
Kevin Barnes
Rob Jackson
Perry Riley
Terrence Austin

plenty more...[/quote]

With the exception of Banks and Williams, Shanny kept every single one of those players to fill the roster. Torain was the 3rd back in the beginning of the season and only moved up due to an injury and a cut, Williams, Bryant, (even Banks), and Austin were not even on the team's opening day roster. Barnes, Jackson, and Riley were only active a combined total of 20 games. There is no current youth movement going on here.

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I think there is. Portis, Daniels, Rabach...plenty of our players are aging and on the way out. We do have young possible replacements for most of them.

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[quote=Buster;785917]I think there is. Portis, Daniels, Rabach...plenty of our players are aging and on the way out. We do have young possible replacements for most of them.[/quote]

Do you think the young possible replacements will get the nod for starting positions though? I love Portis and he has been my favorite current Skin for a long time but I don't want to see him as our opening day RB. i guess it all goes back to Shanny and the FO's mindset. I'll keep my dancing shoes ready just in case though!

Hmmm maybe I could have thought of a more manly way of saying that?