Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

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The professional football organization in Washington continues to focus on the important things.

When they aren’t [URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/12/lawsuit-seems-like-wrong-way-to-alter-snyders-image/"][COLOR=#d81718]suing a tiny local paper[/COLOR][/URL], the team is ordering the [I]Washington Post [/I]to change the name of their popular football blog. Dan Steinberg of [I]DC Sports Bog[/I] [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/why-redskins-insider-lost-its-name/2011/03/15/AB755AX_blog.html#comments"][COLOR=#d81718]points out an article[/COLOR][/URL] in the Post on Tuesday that explains why.

“The Redskins, who have been at the forefront in creating their own multimedia operations, have been aggressive in policing the use and misuse of their ‘brand’ by others,” Paul Farhi writes.
To that end, they no longer allow local sports highlight shows on television or radio to use the team name unless its authorized. Recently, [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/in-internet-age-sports-teams-are-increasingly-in-the-news-business/2011/02/28/ABPkAtV_story_1.html"][COLOR=#d81718]they took that one step further[/COLOR][/URL].

“The Redskins recently asked the [I]Washington Post[/I] to rename the newspaper’s video webcast and blog about the team, which was called ‘Redskins Insider,’” Fahri notes. (The blog has since been retitled “Football Insider.”)

After consulting with our legal team, we’ve determined that we will only mention the team’s name from now on when quoting from other sources.

Otherwise, we will refer to the team as the Washington Indigenous Americans. Or perhaps the Washington Free Agent Mistakes.
Unless you guys have any better ideas.



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re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

I really hate this guy. Also my bad about the really long title, please feel free to edit.....

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Longest thread title EVER.


I didn't even know it would allow us to type one that long!

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^ i didnt think it would show after so many characters..... I was WRONG

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I understand the economics of marketing a brand. But this is ridiculous. The column now known as "Football Insider" essentially provided free advertising for the team. Sometimes you have to know when to stop - and apparently Snyder's office does not know this.

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Really does it matter either way?

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You know usually I defend The Danny but this is freaking retarded. At least I have something to talk about on my show. damn Dan

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Is the argument that the Wash Po, by virtue of using the name "redskins insider", would attract more viewers and thus more money?

So the DS doesnt want the Wash Po to use "redskins" when titling sections of their weekly blogs/videos b/c they, in some stretch of logic but understandable, would be unfairly making money off the redskin name which they dont have permission or authorization to do?

Burning bridges instead of building them. Jerry Jones at least gets the importance of treating the media with respect and catered lunch every week. Does the DS realize this just opens him up to ridicule to no end? When we suffer an embarrassing loss, im sure the wash po will get creative with names to use instead of redskins.

But im pretty sure the wash po or any person can use the name redskins in an article title and in articles, you just cant have permenant sections of your newspaper titled "redskins". but im sure the wash po will still make a funny in an article title just to poke fun at the easily irritable DS and use it as yet another example of his just not getting it.

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The losing tenure piece is irrelevant to the story so I dropped that from the title

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to post this.

Here are my two cents

1. When I worked in the local media back in the day, my tv station was not allowed for a while to use Redskins in our weekly football show. (though I later found out, it was fueled by a competing station who-felt they paid a significant amount of money to be an official partner). This was before Snyder bought the team. So protecting the Redskins name has been around long before Snyder. This, incidentally, is what people who sue to change the team name are really suing about. They want to remove the football's rights to trademark and protect the name Redskins, thus diluting its value

2. Now that I work in the national media, and see many contracts-I can tell you that they are not the only team that does this. That many teams and leagues are extremely protective of their brand. All the major leagues are, perhaps no one more so than the NFL itself. The NFL is very, very, very protective and selective in regards to how often the term NFL can be used and where. So it wouldn't entirely surprise me if part of this was a mandate from above (Though I'm sure another part was to screw with the WaPo).

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Does anyone know if Tony Wyllie is behind this (if not the NFL)?

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After reading SS response I can see where he is coming from. I would like to Danny Boy just Chill out and stay under the radar for a while.

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[quote=MonkFan4Life;789130]You know usually I defend The Danny but this is freaking retarded. At least I have something to talk about on my show. damn Dan[/quote]

same here

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Also, if you read the original article you'll see that "force" is a strong word and it's part of a bigger story about sports teams/leagues taking more ownership of their brand in the media

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/in-internet-age-sports-teams-are-increasingly-in-the-news-business/2011/02/28/ABPkAtV_story.html]In Internet age, sports teams are increasingly in the news business - The Washington Post[/url]

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Wow, just wow. If winning a Super Bowl is ever based on karma then we are royally screwed. Did he not see the reaction to the Examiner lawsuit? Who the hell is advising Snyder?

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[quote=Dirtbag59;789152]Wow, just wow. If winning a Super Bowl is ever based on karma then we are royally screwed. Did he not see the reaction to the Examiner lawsuit? Who the hell is advising Snyder?[/quote]

Incidentally, I got an email from Joe Bugel forcing me to force you to change your user name. You can no longer use Dirtbag. Henceforth, we shall call you AnonymousInternetDude59

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[quote=warpaint;789139]After reading SS response I can see where he is coming from. I would like to Danny Boy just Chill out and stay under the radar for a while.[/quote]Agreed. The timing of this is not very good at all.

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Timing might be interesting indeed.
I wonder if these exclusivity name branding deals $ are part of the elusive unreported NFL revenue that fails to make it into the overall NFL revenues in the CBA deal?
The one that the players are trying to get disclosed and included in the CBA deal.

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even with a f-ing lockout snyder has to get his name out there somehow. i'm starting to beleive that he thrives off of negitive publicity.

hey dan here's a clue shut the f up, sit in your office, write checks and stay out of the media for a little while. it called keeping a low profile, most people do it after they f up.

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Well, it's called "The Insider" on WaPo now. It seems quite...commanding with the graphic re-design.

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Let's not forget how the warpath was also forced by that bastard to change it's name a while ago. I can't take this Danny shit anymore.

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I wonder what the paper would have to say if DS named his sports paper Washington Post Insider?

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[quote=SmootSmack;789153]Incidentally, I got an email from Joe Bugel forcing me to force you to change your user name. You can no longer use Dirtbag. Henceforth, we shall call you AnonymousInternetDude59[/quote]

Harsh bro. Just harsh. Still I think if you want to punish me (or anyone else for that matter) you should change their name to VinnyCerratoFan.

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Ill file this in the dont give a sh*t cabinet

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[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Redskins-ask-Washington-Post-to-remove-team-name?urn=nfl-wp217&active_dimension=carousel_ept_sports_nfl_experts&ysp_frm_woah=1]Redskins ask Washington Post to remove team name from blog - Shutdown Corner - NFL Blog - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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Never mind

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No big deal...

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We should have a poll. "Bigger cry baby: Crosby or Snyder?"

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as if we didn't already know this...

Dan Snyder = (money > brains)

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[quote=Dirtbag59;789199]We should have a poll. "Bigger cry baby: Crosby or Snyder?"[/quote]

How about a poll that says:

"Reads sensational thread headline"
"Reads complete story, and doesn't jump off a bridge"

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[quote=SmootSmack;789207]How about a poll that says:

"Reads sensational thread headline"
"Reads complete story, and doesn't jump off a bridge"[/quote]

Is there water under the bridge?

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[quote=SBXVII;789208]Is there water under the bridge?[/quote]

troubled water

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[quote=SmootSmack;789207]How about a poll that says:

"Reads sensational thread headline"
"Reads complete story, and doesn't jump off a bridge"[/quote]

Read it and still think Snyder is in the wrong. If this was an isolated incident then fine, but this is coming off the heels of numerous public screw ups that are making us look like a punch line time and time again. The fact that they would even ask for a name change to begin with is beyond me.

On top of that I have not seen Capitals Inside or Wizards Insider "asked" to change their names so why should "Redskins Insider" be forced to change other then for their lack of inside information?

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I don't see how this makes the Redskins look like a bad organization, they are doing what any other big corporation would do with a brand name.

The following things make (or have made) the Redskins a punch line:
- Getting blasted by the Eagles on Monday Night
- The season-long Haynesworth circus
- Giving up draft picks to rent McNabb for not even a season
- Just about anything Vinny Cerrato did
- Etc., etc., etc.

[QUOTE=Dirtbag59;789215]Read it and still think Snyder is in the wrong. If this was an isolated incident then fine, but this is coming off the heels of numerous public screw ups that are making us look like a punch line time and time again. The fact that they would even ask for a name change to begin with is beyond me.

On top of that I have not seen Capitals Inside or Wizards Insider "asked" to change their names so why should "Redskins Insider" be forced to change other then for their lack of inside information?[/QUOTE]

Agreed. Bad timing and not an isolated incident.

-hatas gonna hate

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[quote=Dirtbag59;789215]Read it and still think Snyder is in the wrong. If this was an isolated incident then fine, but this is coming off the heels of numerous public screw ups that are making us look like a punch line time and time again. The fact that they would even ask for a name change to begin with is beyond me.

On top of that I have not seen Capitals Inside or Wizards Insider "asked" to change their names so why should "Redskins Insider" be forced to change other then for their lack of inside information?[/quote]

Well

1. Asking for a name change is not the same as forcing
2. They have the right to ask, largely due to contractual obligations they have with other organizations
3. How do we know this hasn't been brought up before
4. It's not uncommon at all for teams and leagues to do this, and it's also not uncommon for the primary instigator in this matter to be the media partner that's paid a lot of money to them (as I mentioned from personal experience)
5. He's not the first Redskins owner to do this
6. Because you haven't seen Capitals Insider or Wizards Insider doesn't mean you should a) assume they haven't or b) think they have the same contractual obligations to other entities to do so.

This isn't a huge deal, in my opinion. But I get it, we all hate Snyder. He's an evil, awful man no matter what he does because he ruined a team that last won a Super Bowl nearly 10 years before he even bought the team. Whatever, that's fine. I'd bet my membership here that more people here than not would be hated by Skins fans too if they owned the team.

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If it were your name and/or brand, you'd feel differently.

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Yeah, just another excuse for people to bash Snyder. I don't think this guy can do anything right as far as the public is concerned.

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[quote=SmootSmack;789219]Well

1. Asking for a name change is not the same as forcing
2. They have the right to ask, largely due to contractual obligations they have with other organizations
3. How do we know this hasn't been brought up before
4. It's not uncommon at all for teams and leagues to do this, and it's also not uncommon for the primary instigator in this matter to be the media partner that's paid a lot of money to them (as I mentioned from personal experience)
5. He's not the first Redskins owner to do this
6. Because you haven't seen Capitals Insider or Wizards Insider doesn't mean you should a) assume they haven't or b) think they have the same contractual obligations to other entities to do so.

This isn't a huge deal, in my opinion. But I get it, we all hate Snyder. He's an evil, awful man no matter what he does because he ruined a team that last won a Super Bowl nearly 10 years before he even bought the team. Whatever, that's fine. I'd bet my membership here that more people here than not would be hated by Skins fans too if they owned the team.[/quote]

SS, you are right that this is not a huge deal. You are right that there are many aspects of the situation unknown to us. You are right that such acts of brand protection are not uncommon.

However, the problem here is perception. When you
a) sue grandmas in a recession
b) sue very minor newspapers for minor things
c) strong arm a newspaper column which is offering your team free advertising through the use of the name

...then you look like a very petty, small-minded person.

I don't hate Snyder. But I do think he can be a petty person.

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It's his brand, he can do whatever he wants with it.

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[quote=Mattyk;789231]It's his brand, he can do whatever he wants with it.[/quote]

I don't disagree with that at all.

But if he chooses to do petty things with his brand then he's going to come across as petty.

And, as Slingin' Sammy said, the timing here is not very good.