If someone who has a siamese twin commits murder, are they still punished?
 

This question is driving me crazy!

[quote]Okay, so lets say a woman is a siamese twin (conjoined) and she kills someone. Would she still get convicted and sent to jail even though it would mean her innocent attached sister is being punished for a crime they did not commit?
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Good question, I remember this episode on Tales from the krypt or some crap, Her twin wouldn't really be innocent seeing that they were there and did nothing.

Haha where'd you get this question from?

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;791076]Good question, I remember this episode on Tales from the krypt or some crap, Her twin wouldn't really be innocent seeing that they were there and did nothing.[/quote]

What Quake said. Since you know the twin had been there and couldn't stop it, that twin would most likely be charged as an accomplice.

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ever seen stuck together with greg kinnear and matt damon? very underated movie, they are siamese twins and matt damon gets a dui and they shut the jail cell door right between the two of them. i imagine it works somthing like that

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[quote=mooby;791090]What Quake said. Since you know the twin had been there and couldn't stop it, that twin would most likely be charged as an accomplice.[/quote]What if for some reason she couldn't stop it, and so she was the one who tells the police and rats her sister out?

As random and weird as this question is, I think it's actually pretty interesting.

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At the end of that episode they separate them and put the bad one in the gas chamber

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What happens if one is dominate and the other one is scared of her and scared to try and stop her.

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Perhaps it should be considered a....CopyCat crime?

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This reminds me.

Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese,pickles, onions on a siamese seed bun.

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[quote=hooskins;791078]Haha where'd you get this question from?[/quote]

I was trying to find out what would happen to someone if they got away with murder as a 7 or 8 year old only to get caught as an adult after watching an SVU marathon and the Google search I used to find it led me to this question.

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Another twist on the Siamese twin debate:

What if you have sex with one but the other says no. Are you a rapist?

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[quote=mredskins;791150]Another twist on the Siamese twin debate:

What if you have sex with one but the other says no. Are you a rapist?[/quote]

Do you have any.....personal pending litigation on the matter?

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[IMG]http://ipo.totfarm.com/pics/pic_1207890494181.jpg[/IMG]

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LOL! That was the pic that spurned my question.

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^LOL! That was the pic that spurned my question.

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[quote=mredskins;791154]^LOL! That was the pic that spurned my question.[/quote]

I looked for the pic because of this thread and what was your reason?

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[quote=firstdown;791155]I looked for the pic because of this thread and what was your reason?[/quote]


I googled image "Siamese twins" becasue I was not sure that was the correct term I thought it was conjoined twins but they are interchangeable terms.


[I][B]BUT [/B][/I]if it makes you feel warm and fuzz I really googled it to jerk off to. [I]eyes rolling[/I]

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What if you have sex with your Siamese twin, Is it considered incest or just masturbation?

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Boy this thread went down hill quick. Maybe I should have posted that picture under my Sweet 16 thread.

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Bump. The question still hasn't been answered. I know some of you are lawyers so don't try and duck out on this one.

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This thread went downhill faster than Shaun Alexander's career. I guess I'll join in.

What if one of the Siamese twins has female body parts, and the other is a tranny? Does that mean you participated in a threesome with a tranny?

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Here are some thoughts from a lawyer who has thought about it:

[quote]As actors under American criminal law, conjoined twins present paradoxical obstacles to the application of traditional methods of criminal punishments. The Western notion of individuality precludes such duplicitous beings from orthodox measures to remedy criminal action, particularly the crime of murder. Constitutional limitations of due process and guarantees of life, liberty and property militate against equal treatment of these actors under the law. I believe that within our Constitutional framework, the only thing to be done in this situation is to release the conjoined twins. Even if the jury sentenced the conjoined twins to death, the court would have to commute the sentence and release the twins. The guarantees of due process under the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments prohibit punishing an innocent actor. Furthermore stare decisis, the doctrine that states that courts must follow the precedent of preceding and higher courts, presents an additional danger. If the court decided to punish the innocent twin despite her innocence, there would be nothing to stop the State from punishing others who have not been convicted of committing crimes (see also enemy combatants, plea of not guilty by reason of insanity, etc.).

While this solution may seem like a grave injustice to society, consider the innocent parties injured through mistrial, the criminals released because of shortcomings of shoddy police work, and statutes of limitations preventing the delayed filing of charges despite ironclad certainty. Such is the nature of our legal system. With these limitations come the freedoms and guarantees of the Constitution, preventing an overreaching government from undue interference into the lives of private citizens and frivolous legal action.[/quote]

By the way, this has actually happened in the past:
[quote] The question posed is not purely speculative. According to 18th century French historian Henri Sauval, a murder of the kind presented was perpetrated in the 17th century by Italian conjoined twins. Born in 1617 in Genoa, two boys were held together by the stomach. One twin was completely healthy while the other was mute, deaf, and blind. Sauval records that the healthy twin stabbed a man to death and was tried, convicted, and sentenced to death. However, the twin was not executed “on account of the innocence of one of its component halves.” It was impossible to put one to death without twin killing the other. Unfortunately, Sauval failed to mention whether they were subsequently incarcerated or released after the death sentence was commuted, leaving this scenario ripe for legal analysis in the abstract.[/quote]

Both quotes are from: [url=http://www.nickkam.com/2009/12/half-guilty/]Half Guilty - Nick Kam[/url]

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[quote=firstdown;791152][IMG]http://ipo.totfarm.com/pics/pic_1207890494181.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Technically, I am not sure what you would call it, but [I]I[/I] would call it a helluva lot of fun.

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I find it a little confusing. Maybe I could YouTube some.....directions?
BTW.....Joe I'm ashamed of you...I thought you were a better person.
I'M not, but I thought better of you........

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[quote=Hog1;819901]I find it a little confusing. Maybe I could YouTube some.....directions?
BTW.....Joe I'm ashamed of you...[B]I thought you were a better person[/B].
I'M not, but I thought better of you........[/quote]

Sorry to disappoint - Perhaps you have misunderstood my previous posts on religion/theology to mean I actually [I]do[/I] that stuff. Let me clarify, I have a very clear opinion of "what is right v. what is wrong". I just choose not to let that guide my actions and, rather, rely on the "more fun versus less fun" analysis for my moral compass.

Those girls look like the definition of "more fun".

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[quote=JoeRedskin;819909]Sorry to disappoint - Perhaps you have misunderstood my previous posts on religion/theology to mean I actually [I]do[/I] that stuff. Let me clarify, I have a very clear opinion of "what is right v. what is wrong". I just choose not to let that guide my actions and, rather, rely on the "more fun versus less fun" analysis for my moral compass.

[B]Those girls look like the definition of "more fun".[/B][/quote]
Divine logic is inescapable....

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[quote=JoeRedskin;819896]Here are some thoughts from a lawyer who has thought about it:



By the way, this has actually happened in the past:


Both quotes are from: [url=http://www.nickkam.com/2009/12/half-guilty/]Half Guilty - Nick Kam[/url][/quote]

Question: answered. So they'd have to be released? Niiice.