Kris Jenkins in Haynesworth out?
 

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/38966/kris-jenkins-to-redskins-could-be-a-good-fit]Kris Jenkins to Redskins could be a good fit - NFL Nation Blog - ESPN[/url]

"Pop Jenkins, a guy who wants to be in Washington, into Haynesworth’s place, and the Redskins might be able to solve a big problem".

What do you all think?

I like the premise. Of course, 31 year old off injury begs a bit of a question but the article makes good points.

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He's old and coming off a big injury.....
What makes him any different than Kemo?

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[quote=44ever;791348]What do you all think?[/quote]

I think repeating the same thing over and over again expecting different results is insanity.


[quote]and a 31-year-old coming off another major injury [/quote]

Sound familiar?

[quote]The 31-year-old Kemoeatu signed a two-year, $7 million deal with the Redskins. When Kemoeatu’s visit with the Redskins was first reported, it didn’t look like a signing was close because Kemoeatu isn’t close to being completely recovered from the torn Achilles’ tendon that cost him the entire 2009 season. But apparently the Redskins are satisfied that Kemoeatu is on the road to recovery.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/10/redskins-sign-maake-kemoeatu/]Redskins sign Maake Kemoeatu | ProFootballTalk[/url]
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Both are 31 years old when available for free agency. Both played in Carolina at some point. Both are Nose Tackles. Both are coming off big injuries during their respective free agent years.

This is deja vu.

Still as far as Jenkins is concerned, well simply put he's like a Ferrari with a 150,000 miles.

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Stud if he's healthy, but coming off back to back ACL tears? Yikes.

I would consider him for part of a rotation, but I wouldn't bring him in expecting him to be the main guy at the nose.

Kemo's situation was a bit different, an Achilles injury is tougher to come back from.

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Please no more old asses

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I really like Jenkins but he is just too beaten up to be a serious factor.

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For the veteran minimum. The guy is a health liability, always hurt.

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I've had the chance to meet Jenkins a couple of times this year and I think he's a really nice guy...but I don't want him on the team. He's on the wrong side of 30, he's not healthy, he doesn't care for the Redskins (something from his youth I guess). The last piece I honestly don't think is a huge deal but the first two are deal breakers for me

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Would've been a nice fit a few years ago when he was leaving Carolina but he's of no use to a team that's rebuilding.

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If Kris Jenkins didn't tear his ACL every year, then ya i'd take him.

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Kris Jenkins has had 2 major injuries in 2 years!
not sure about this one boys!

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[quote=SmootSmack;791386]I've had the chance to meet Jenkins a couple of times this year and I think he's a really nice guy...but I don't want him on the team. He's on the wrong side of 30, he's not healthy, he doesn't care for the Redskins (something from his youth I guess). The last piece I honestly don't think is a huge deal but the first two are deal breakers for me[/quote]

I hear everything everyone is saying but look at his leadership and experience compare to the nightmare Hayensworth has been and disruption to the team he will continue to be........

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He was a very good player. I'd like to stop signing guys with the WAS and start signing guys with the IS. :cool-smil

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If you mix old players with young players they will not Jell, simply because the older players will be gone in 1-2 years about the time they should be playing well together. Start Young-start fresh & rebuild. HTTR

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Absolutly horrible idea to sign this guy

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I to think he is a non fit for the team, not because of his age but his 2 identical knee injuries within 11 months of each other. I don't see him playing a whole season anymore. What he does have going for him is his he is well rested and likes to play on natural grass and knows Redskins are desperately trying to replace Haynesworth.

But, He would not fit the "what we hope is the new mold and philosophy" of, rebuild with young, healthy, hungry talent.

53fan said it well, We need to stop going after the "was good" guys.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81f072e3/article/roadrage-assault-trial-for-skins-haynesworth-postponed]NFL.com news: Road-rage assault trial for 'Skins' Haynesworth postponed[/url]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Kris Jankins has injury and age issues like everyone else has said. But even though he may like the area and the team, why would a 31 year old want to come to DC over a team that can be in contention ie Jets. In my opinion it would be to get paid, not just check the Cherry Blossoms and [/FONT][/COLOR]reminisce[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] at his UMD hangout spots. I realize that this is all speculation by the writer and not anything from Jenkins camp, so i think the writer is dead wrong.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Besides all that, what makes the writer think the addition of Jenkins would spur the release of Hanynsworth? I feel like Hanynsworth is going to get released or not going to get released regardless of who is added to the team. I feel like Shanahan could care less about the perception of his players, media and the fans have of him, and doesn’t mind keeping AH around regardless of what others may think. Danny is cool with it because its effectively punishing AH and is only costing him marginally more then what hes already paid. I think well try and trade him, but if we cant get a 7th from AFC team or a 5th or 6th from a NFC team then I think we keep him for another year, regardless if Kris da ja vue Jenkins is added or not. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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It's funny how people feel that Shanahan should keep Haynesworth but they HAD to get rid of Campbell. I know they are different situations, but still.

"Punishing" Haynesworth is not going to solve the team's problems and personally I think the whole concept is laughable. As long as Haynesworth is on the team, there will always be a media circus around the situation. You'll have people like Kevin Sheehan bringing up issue many times over. Nothing positive will come out of Haynesworth being with the Redskins in the 2011-2012 season.

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Im not saying the Skins or Shanny should keep AH if the whole reason is to punish him or to make an example of him, I just think from an observational standpoint that seems to be the reality of the situation to some degree. I also don’t really care all that much one way or another, and even though it may make for good media headlines and is easy to debate I don’t think other people should care either. This team has a lot bigger issues to focus on rather then worrying about the dynamics of the Fat Albert/Skins/Shanny relationship. I got no probelm with Shanny hadling somethign that is in effect a very small issue his way. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[quote=Giantone;791398]I hear everything everyone is saying [B]but look at his leadership and experience [/B]compare to the nightmare Hayensworth has been and disruption to the team he will continue to be........[/quote]

Which is why I wouldn't mind hiring him as an Asst. DL Coach, but as a player? no thanks. I guess he might be able to be used as a fill in for when the NT needs a rest for a play or two.

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Haynesworth is such a tragedy. He could easily be the leagues best Nose Tackle if he was a team player, but his selfish nature has royally screwed us over. "Wahhhh, I want to chase the Quarterback and get my numbers so I can get in the hall of fame one day! WAAHHHHHHH!" Pretty hard to get into the hall when you never play.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;791461]Haynesworth is such a tragedy. He could easily be the leagues best Nose Tackle if he was a team player, but his selfish nature has royally screwed us over. "Wahhhh, I want to chase the Quarterback and get my numbers so I can get in the hall of fame one day! WAAHHHHHHH!" Pretty hard to get into the hall when you never play.[/quote]

I wouldn't necessary call it a tragedy, more like wasted talent. His shitty attitude makes him a wasted talent, and so does the team's insistence in wasting his ability at the NT position. In the end, he put himself in this position by taking the 21 mil bonus money. And the team should've known better to overpay for him.

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I'll take his brother Cullen Jenkins of the Packers though!

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I like the idea of going after Cullen Jenkins to play RDE. The only nose tackle I would advocate for in free agency is Aubrayo Franklin. That signing could work out.

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Seemed like the Packers were willing to let Cullen walk, but with the mess Johnny Jolly has gotten himself into, may not be as likely now

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Kris Jenkins seams like a nice guy and I would embrace him if he became a SKIN, but the NFL is a physical game and he can't stay healthy, I wouldn't take a chance.

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[quote=GTripp0012;791488]I like the idea of going after Cullen Jenkins to play RDE. The only nose tackle I would advocate for in free agency is Aubrayo Franklin. That signing could work out.[/quote]

I like Franklin too, but even he will be 31 this summer.

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At least with KJ we know he gives 100% and is a great locker room guy. I would just bring him in to show that pos AH how to be a professional. Give KJ 2 year 8 mill contract.

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[quote=saden1;791509]At least with KJ we know he gives 100% and is a great locker room guy. I would just bring him in to show that pos AH how to be a professional. Give KJ 2 year 8 mill contract.[/quote]

What we need is a true NT for the type of defense we have in place. I think it would be a good idea to have a player that has actual experience playing the NT position to help develop a rookie NT (if we bring one) and to continue to develop Bryant. I think this is a bit more relevant than showing Haynesworth how to be a professional.

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So do we know what other NTs are available in free agency (if it happens). I guess with this whole labor mess is kinda hard to determine who's available and whatnot.

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[quote=Ruhskins;791521]What we need is a true NT for the type of defense we have in place. I think it would be a good idea to have a player that has actual experience playing the NT position to help develop a rookie NT (if we bring one) and to continue to develop Bryant. I think this is a bit more relevant than showing Haynesworth how to be a professional.[/quote]

I'm all for a veteran showing people how to play NT. But an old guy without a knee doesn't sound like more than a position coach. If his knees are better I'd be fine with it. Free agents only cost money, they don't cost draft picks or our future. 8 million is excessive - I'm all for the classic vet min and then performance based incentives.

Just as a side comment, the starting NT for the Pittsburgh Steelers - Casey Hampton, is 33 going on 34, and I believe just signed an extension.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;791350]He's old and coming off a big injury.....
What makes him any different than Kemo?[/quote]

His talent

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[quote=ethat001;791527]I'm all for a veteran showing people how to play NT. But an old guy without a knee doesn't sound like more than a position coach. If his knees are better I'd be fine with it. Free agents only cost money, they don't cost draft picks or our future. 8 million is excessive -[B] I'm all for the classic vet min and then performance based incentives.[/B]

Just as a side comment, the starting NT for the Pittsburgh Steelers - Casey Hampton, is 33 going on 34, and I believe just signed an extension.[/quote]

I trust Allen's instinct, I mean he got LJ and Willie Parker for nothing, they didn't work out, and were kicked to the curb. Honestly, I dunno how much money Jenkins can command given his health history.

[quote=Alvin Walton;791350]He's old and coming off a big injury.....
What makes him any different than Kemo?[/quote]

Talent and more recent experience playing the 3-4.

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[quote=Lotus;791367]I really like Jenkins but he is just too beaten up to be a serious factor.[/quote]

Well we can just force Albert again at the nose tackle spot and he will just lay down.

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With our limited number of draft picks this year we are going to have to sign some undrafted free agents and hope we can find a Brandon Banks at the NT and LB spots. We have to learn to stop giving up draft picks like its nothing.

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[quote=skins89moss;791531]Well we can just force Albert again at the nose tackle spot and he will just lay down.[/quote]

Or we can get a NT that actually knows how to play the position and is a better fit for it instead of forcing guys into schemes that don't fit their skills.

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[quote=Ruhskins;791533]Or we can get a NT that actually knows how to play the position and is a better fit for it instead of forcing guys into schemes that don't fit their skills.[/quote]

Sorry, that makes waaaaay to much sense. Never happen.

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[quote=Ruhskins;791463]I wouldn't necessary call it a tragedy, more like wasted talent. His shitty attitude makes him a wasted talent, and so does the team's insistence in wasting his ability at the NT position. In the end, he put himself in this position by taking the 21 mil bonus money. And the team should've known better to overpay for him.[/quote]

Sean Taylor (happy birthday) was a tragedy. AH is a travesty