Predict the 2011 Opening Day 53 Man Roster
 

Got tired of waiting for GTripp to start this thread. We usually do this after free agency and the draft, but whatever let's assume trades/free agency will happen at some point in the next couple of months. And let's ignore the latest rumor that the NFL may expand rosters due to the prolonged lockout

QB: Rex Grossman, John Beck, Scott Tolzien

RB: Ryan Torain, Roy Helu, Keiland Williams

FB: Darrell Young

TE: Chris Cooley, Fred Davis, Logan Paulsen

WR: James Jones, Santana Moss, Anthony Armstrong, Leonard Hankerson, Terrence Austin, Brandon Banks

OL: Trent Williams, Kory L., Casey Rabach, Will Montgomery, Ryan Harris, Mike Williams, Jammal Brown, Kasey Studdard, Selvish Capers

K: Graham Gano

DL: Adam Carriker, Anthony Bryant, Jeremy Jarmon, Jarvis Jenkins, Albert Haynesworth, Vonnie Holliday, Kedrick Golston, Chris Neild

LB: Brian Orakpo, Ryan Kerrigan, Lorenzo Alexander, London Fletcher, Chris Wilson, HB Blades, Perry Riley, Robert Henson

DB: DeAngelo Hall, Antonio Cromartie, Philip Buchanon, Kevin Barnes, Byron Westbrook

S: OJ Atogwe, Laron Landry, Reed Doughty, DeJon Gomes

P: Josh Bidwell

LS: Nick Sundberg

Practice Squad:

Eric Cook
Aldrick Robinson
Evan Royster
and 5 other dudes

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[quote=SmootSmack;804727]Got tired of waiting for GTripp to start this thread. We usually do this after free agency and the draft, but whatever let's assume trades/free agency will happen at some point in the next couple of months. And let's ignore the latest rumor that the NFL may expand rosters due to the prolonged lockout[/quote]

HOW DARE YOU! TWAS I WHO STARTED LAST YEARS PREDICT THE ROSTER THREAD> !!@#@*)(#@&#

[B]QB [/B] Beck - Grossman - [B][COLOR="Blue"]FA[/COLOR][/B]
[B]RB [/B][I][COLOR=DarkRed]Royster [/COLOR][/I]- Torrain -[I][COLOR=DarkRed] Helu Jr[/COLOR][/I]
[B]FB [/B]Sellers
[B]WR [/B]Moss- [COLOR=DarkRed][I]Robinson [/I][/COLOR]- Banks
[B]WR [/B][I][COLOR=DarkRed]Hankerson [/COLOR][/I]- Armstrong - Austin
[B]TE [/B]Cooley - Davis - Paulsen
[B]LT [/B]Williams - Fulton
[B]LG [/B]Kory L - Montgomery
[B]C [/B]Rabach - Cook
[B]RG [COLOR=Blue] [/COLOR][COLOR=Blue]Joesph [/COLOR][/B]- Capers
[B]RT [COLOR=Blue] Harris [/COLOR][/B]- Heyer

[B]DE [/B]A. Carriker - [I][COLOR=DarkRed]J. Jenkins[/COLOR][/I] - Holiday
[B]NT [/B][COLOR=Blue][B] Franklin [/B][/COLOR]- [I][COLOR=DarkRed]Neild [/COLOR][/I]- Bryant
[B]DE [/B][COLOR=Blue][B]C. Jenkins[/B][/COLOR] - P. Daniels
[B]OLB [/B][I][COLOR="DarkRed"]Kerrigan [/COLOR][/I]- Alexander
[B]OLB [/B]Orakpo - [COLOR="DarkRed"][I]White [/I][/COLOR]
[B]ILB [/B]Fletcher - McDonald's Guy
[B]ILB [/B]Riley - Blades
[B]CB [/B]Hall - [I][COLOR=DarkRed]Thompson [/COLOR][/I]
[B]CB [/B]Barnes - Buchanon
[B]FS [COLOR=Blue] OJ [/COLOR][/B]- Gomes
[B]SS [/B]Landry - Horton

[B]K [/B]Gano
[B]P [/B]Bidwell
[B]LS [/B]Dear God please someone else.

[B][COLOR=Blue]Free Agent[/COLOR][/B]
[COLOR=DarkRed][I]Rookie[/I][/COLOR]

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Yeah, but I started it the year before so I own the copyright to the thread. It's in my contract. Plus, for whatever reason it's Tripp's favorite thread of the year so I blessed him with the opportunity to start it this year. But his lazy ass doesn't have a hernia it seems so he didn't start it. To be fair though, he said he would start it in June. But that's sooooo far away

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[quote=SmootSmack;804730]Yeah, but I started it the year before so I own the copyright to the thread. It's in my contract. Plus, for whatever reason it's Tripp's favorite thread of the year so I blessed him with the opportunity to start it this year. But his lazy ass doesn't have a hernia it seems so he didn't start it. To be fair though, he said he would start it in June. But that's sooooo far away[/quote]

Truth be told I was tempted to start it myself since the week after the draft but I've obviously been trigger happy with other pointless threads, plus I figured it would be more fun on day 3 after free agency opened. And by the way I don't have a hernia. I now have a healing ridge near where the hernia use to be.......or maybe I do still have it and it will be kept in check for the rest of my life with mesh? Not completely sure how it works.

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Ouch Hernias are no fun, that mesh that they put in you to hold it is a little creepy too, not nearly as creepy as the SS prediction of Haynesworth still being on this team though.

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Alright, I'll play along...

QB: Rex Grossman, Vince Young, John Beck

RB: Ryan Torain, Roy Helu, Keiland Williams

FB: Darrell Young

TE: Chris Cooley, Fred Davis, Logan Paulsen

WR: James Jones, Santana Moss, Anthony Armstrong, Leonard Hankerson, Terrence Austin, Brandon Banks

OL: Trent Williams, Kory L., Casey Rabach, Will Montgomery, Ryan Harris, Mike Williams, Jammal Brown, Kasey Studdard, Selvish Capers

K: Graham Gano

DL: Adam Carriker, Anthony Bryant, Jeremy Jarmon, Jarvis Jenkins, Kris Jenkins, Vonnie Holliday, Kedrick Golston, Chris Neild

LB: Brian Orakpo, Ryan Kerrigan, Lorenzo Alexander, London Fletcher, Chris Wilson, HB Blades, Perry Riley, Robert Henson

DB: DeAngelo Hall, Nnamdi Asomugha, Philip Buchanon, Kevin Barnes, Byron Westbrook

S: OJ Atogwe, Laron Landry, Reed Doughty, DeJon Gomes

P: Josh Bidwell

LS: Nick Sundberg

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So DB Ryan Kerrigan isnt a rookie anymore?

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;804758]So DB Ryan Kerrigan isnt a rookie anymore?[/quote]

He's that good. LOL.

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SS- Haynesworth on the opening day roster?? Do you know something we don't on that one?

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QB: Vince Young, John Beck, Pat Devlin

RB: Ryan Torain, Roy Helu, Keiland Williams

FB: Mike Sellers

TE: Chris Cooley, Fred Davis, Logan Paulsen

WR: Anthony Armstrong, Leonard Hankerson, Aldrick Robinson, Niles Paul,Terrence Austin, Brandon Banks

OL: Trent Williams, Kory L., Erik Cook, Marshal Yanda, Ryan Harris, Selvish Capers, Casey Rabach, Will Montgomery, and Stephen Heyer

K: Graham Gano

DL: Adam Carriker, Anthony Bryant, Jeremy Jarmon, Jarvis Jenkins, Alan Branch, Kedrick Golston, Chris Neild

LB: Brian Orakpo, Ryan Kerrigan, Lorenzo Alexander, London Fletcher, HB Blades, Perry Riley, Robert Henson, and Rob Jackson

DB: DeAngelo Hall, Jonathan Joseph, Kevin Barnes, Thompson, Brandyn, Byron Westbrook

S: OJ Atogwe, Laron Landry,Kareem Moore, Chris horton, and Dejone Gomes

P: Josh Bidwell

LS: Nick Sundberg

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[quote=GMScud;804798]SS- Haynesworth on the opening day roster?? Do you know something we don't on that one?[/quote]

Nope

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QB: Rex Grossman, Vince Young, John Beck

RB: Ryan Torain, Roy Helu, Evan Royster

FB: Darrell Young

TE: Chris Cooley, Fred Davis, Logan Paulsen

WR: Santana Moss, Malcolm Kelly, Anthony Armstrong, Leonard Hankerson, Terrence Austin, Brandon Banks

OT: Trent Williams, Ryan Harris, Jammal Brown, , Selvish Capers

OG: Kory L., Mike Williams, Kasey Studdard

C: Will Montgomery, Casey Rabach

K: Graham Gano

DE: Adam Carriker, Jarvis Jenkins, Jeremy Jarmon, Vonnie Holliday

NT: Kris Jenkins, Anthony Bryant, Chris Neild

OLB: Brian Orakpo, Ryan Kerrigan, Lorenzo Alexander, Chris Wilson

ILB: London Fletcher, Perry Riley, Robert Henson,

DB: DeAngelo Hall, Antonio Cromartie, Philip Buchanon, Kevin Barnes, Brandyn Thompson

S: OJ Atogwe, Laron Landry, Reed Doughty, DeJon Gomes

P: Adam Podlesh

LS: Nick Sundberg

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;804758]So DB Ryan Kerrigan isnt a rookie anymore?[/quote]

SORRYYYYYYYYY. Sorry I didn't make an effort to make my roster easier to pick up changes and turnover. Oh wait, I DID. YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT. [SIZE="1"]huh, because this could be a HUGE PROBLEM. Why is my voice squeaky?[/SIZE]

[quote=Ruhskins;804791]He's that good. LOL.[/quote]

Uhh, actually yeah that works better. I was totally going for that.

PS - How does non rookie Kerrigan get noticed but McDonald's guy doesn't even get so much as a look?

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Son of Man - I like your inclusion of Darrel Young at FB...really think Sellers will be gone?

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Here's a bold prediction - Helu will "flat out beat" Torain for the starting RB job on opening day.

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/05/27/11/Point-Counterpoint-Sorting-out-the-runni/landing_redskins_loud3r.html?blockID=529510&feedID=6355]Point-Counterpoint: Sorting out the running backs[/url]

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[quote=Monkeydad;804823]Son of Man - I like your inclusion of Darrel Young at FB...really think Sellers will be gone?[/quote]

I see how it is. Liked his inclusion, but not mine.

And why are so many people saying Kasey Studdard? For the record, I'm totally speculating on him joining us

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[quote=SmootSmack;804826]I see how it is. Liked his inclusion, but not mine.

And why are so many people saying Kasey Studdard? For the record, I'm totally speculating on him joining us[/quote]

Hey, I've complimented you plenty of times...have to throw the newbs some bones too. :D

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[quote=SmootSmack;804826]I see how it is. Liked his inclusion, but not mine.

And why are so many people saying Kasey Studdard? For the record, I'm totally speculating on him joining us[/quote]

See Smootsmack knows what it's like. By the way I'm extremely offended that no one noticed [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xavier_Fulton"]Xavier Fulton[/URL] on my opening day roster. Like "hey dirt that's awesome. I didn't know we already had someone that awesome on our roster. You're AWESOME."

Fulton was signed on 20 December 2010.[25] On January 3, 2010, Fulton signed a futures contract with the team for the 2011 season.[26]

[quote=Monkeydad;804824]Here's a bold prediction - Helu will "flat out beat" Torain for the starting RB job on opening day.

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/05/27/11/Point-Counterpoint-Sorting-out-the-runni/landing_redskins_loud3r.html?blockID=529510&feedID=6355]Point-Counterpoint: Sorting out the running backs[/url][/quote]

I think to many of you are overlooking Royster. Personally I feel that Shanahan liked Royster more but felt like he would be available much later then Helu, hence the trade up for Helu. If anything Royster is capable of doing everything; catching, blocking, running. The RB trifecta. Sure he's only good and not great in all three areas but hopefully we can change that.

Besides we've already established that Shanahan feels Royster is the next T. Davis not to mention he has scary parallels to Jim Brown.

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[quote=Monkeydad;804824]Here's a bold prediction - Helu will "flat out beat" Torain for the starting RB job on opening day.

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/05/27/11/Point-Counterpoint-Sorting-out-the-runni/landing_redskins_loud3r.html?blockID=529510&feedID=6355]Point-Counterpoint: Sorting out the running backs[/url][/quote]

very bold indeed i kinda like it

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I debated including Fulton, even Doug Dutch

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[quote=Dirtbag59;804830]
I think to many of you are overlooking Royster. Personally I feel that Shanahan liked Royster more but felt like he would be available much later then Helu, hence the trade up for Helu. If anything Royster is capable of doing everything; catching, blocking, running. The RB trifecta. Sure he's only good and not great in all three areas but hopefully we can change that.
[/quote]

I definitely think Royster will be a solid back and contribute, especially if Torain goes down.

Remember Keiland Williams last year against Tennessee? Beastly. We're also forgetting about him.

Suddenly, we have 4 VERY solid RBs. It's a great situation to be in. Our WRs also look good and of course TE is the best tandem in the NFL. If the O-line gets fixed, it won't really matter who plays QB, he'll be surrounded by a ton of playmakers.

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[quote=SmootSmack;804727]Got tired of waiting for GTripp to start this thread. We usually do this after free agency and the draft, but whatever let's assume trades/free agency will happen at some point in the next couple of months. And let's ignore the latest rumor that the NFL may expand rosters due to the prolonged lockout[/quote]Dude. We're in a lockout. I'm simply moving at the speed of our legal system. What's a week between friends?

Because of Smootsmack's impatience, I am doing the roster that I would build in May, not my predictions for what will happen. Those predictions will come as soon as I know the free agency rules. For right now, assumption is: 2010 rules to player movement.

[B]Quarterbacks (3)[/B]: [U]Rex Grossman[/U], Scott Tolzien (R), Pat Devlin (R)

[B]Runningbacks (5)[/B]: [U]Roy Helu Jr. (R)[/U], Keiland Williams, Evan Royster (R), Henry Hynoski (R), Mike Sellers

[B]Wide Receivers (6)[/B]: [U]Anthony Armstrong[/U], [U]Malcolm Kelly[/U], Leonard Hankerson, Brandon Banks, Terence Austin, Aldrick Robinson

I do think Niles Paul is a better prospect than Austin, but Paul's best chance of making the roster is Kelly getting hurt again and being released.

[B]Tight Ends (3)[/B]: [U]Chris Cooley[/U], [U]Fred Davis[/U], Logan Paulsen

[B]Offensive Linemen (8)[/B]: [U]Trent Williams[/U], [U]Kory Lichtensteiger[/U], [U]Will Montgomery[/U], [U]Erik Cook[/U], [U]Jammal Brown[/U], Stephon Heyer, Clint Oldenburg, Mike Williams

[B]Defensive Linemen (8*)[/B]: [U]Anthony Bryant[/U], [U]Adam Carriker[/U], [U]Vonnie Holliday[/U], Jarvis Jenkins (R), Albert Haynesworth, Ma'ake Kemoeatu, Ian Williams (R), Darrion Scott*

*I have Albert Haynesworth on the opening day roster. I think he's traded by Week 4. My player totals equal 54, but D. Scott is going to be a post-Haynesworth pickup.

[B]Linebackers (9)[/B]: [U]London Fletcher[/U], [U]Chris Wilson[/U], [U]Brian Orakpo[/U], [U]Lorenzo Alexander[/U], HB Blades, Ryan Kerrigan, Perry Riley, Rob Jackson, Markus White

[B]Defensive Backs (9)[/B]: [U]DeAngelo Hall[/U], [U]Kevin Barnes[/U], [U]LaRon Landry[/U], [U]OJ Atogwe[/U], Phillip Buchanon, Reed Doughty, DeJon Gomes, Chris L. Rucker (R), Brandyn Thompson (R)

[B]Specialists (2)[/B]: Graham Gano, Josh Bidwell

[B]Long Snapper (1)[/B]: James Dearth

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[quote=GTripp0012;804845]Dude. We're in a lockout. I'm simply moving at the speed of our legal system. What's a week between friends?

Because of Smootsmack's impatience, I am doing the roster that I would build in May, not my predictions for what will happen. Those predictions will come as soon as I know the free agency rules. For right now, assumption is: 2010 rules to player movement.

[B]Quarterbacks (3)[/B]: [U]Rex Grossman[/U], Scott Tolzien (R), Pat Devlin (R)

[B]Runningbacks (5)[/B]: [U]Roy Helu Jr. (R)[/U], Keiland Williams, Evan Royster (R), Henry Hynoski (R), Mike Sellers

[B]Wide Receivers (6)[/B]: [U]Anthony Armstrong[/U], [U]Malcolm Kelly[/U], Leonard Hankerson, Brandon Banks, Terence Austin, Aldrick Robinson

I do think Niles Paul is a better prospect than Austin, but Paul's best chance of making the roster is Kelly getting hurt again and being released.

[B]Tight Ends (3)[/B]: [U]Chris Cooley[/U], [U]Fred Davis[/U], Logan Paulsen

[B]Offensive Linemen (8)[/B]: [U]Trent Williams[/U], [U]Kory Lichtensteiger[/U], [U]Will Montgomery[/U], [U]Erik Cook[/U], [U]Jammal Brown[/U], Stephon Heyer, Clint Oldenburg, Mike Williams

[B]Defensive Linemen (8*)[/B]: [U]Anthony Bryant[/U], [U]Adam Carriker[/U], [U]Vonnie Holliday[/U], Jarvis Jenkins (R), Albert Haynesworth, Ma'ake Kemoeatu, Ian Williams (R), Darrion Scott*

*I have Albert Haynesworth on the opening day roster. I think he's traded by Week 4. My player totals equal 54, but D. Scott is going to be a post-Haynesworth pickup.

[B]Linebackers (9)[/B]: [U]London Fletcher[/U], [U]Chris Wilson[/U], [U]Brian Orakpo[/U], [U]Lorenzo Alexander[/U], HB Blades, Ryan Kerrigan, Perry Riley, Rob Jackson, Markus White

[B]Defensive Backs (9)[/B]: [U]DeAngelo Hall[/U], [U]Kevin Barnes[/U], [U]LaRon Landry[/U], [U]OJ Atogwe[/U], Phillip Buchanon, Reed Doughty, DeJon Gomes, Chris L. Rucker (R), Brandyn Thompson (R)

[B]Specialists (2)[/B]: Graham Gano, Josh Bidwell

[B]Long Snapper (1)[/B]: James Dearth[/quote]




You gutted the team! :Flush:


What happened to Torain?

If Kelly is our #2, we're doomed.

2 undrafted rookie QBs?

No replacement for Rogers at CB?

Nice O-line.




Man, I knew you were a Redskins pessimist but this is ridiculous. I do like that you replaced Rabach and Sundberg at least.

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[quote=Monkeydad;804823]Son of Man - I like your inclusion of Darrel Young at FB...really think Sellers will be gone?[/quote]

I think the team will be going toward a youth movement. Thus, I see Sellers being moved out.

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[quote=SmootSmack;804826]I see how it is. Liked his inclusion, but not mine.

And why are so many people saying Kasey Studdard? For the record, I'm totally speculating on him joining us[/quote]

That is because I used your roster as a template then added my :twocents:

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[quote=Son Of Man;804856]That is because I used your roster as a template then added my :twocents:[/quote]

I did the same thing.

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[quote=Monkeydad;804847]You gutted the team! :Flush:


What happened to Torain?

If Kelly is our #2, we're doomed.

2 undrafted rookie QBs?

No replacement for Rogers at CB?

Nice O-line.




Man, I knew you were a Redskins pessimist but this is ridiculous. I do like that you replaced Rabach and Sundberg at least.[/quote]I don't think you can gut a team that won ten games in two seasons. I think the phrase you're looking for is getting rid of some bad contracts without adding new bad contracts. Which is the obvious focus in 2011. Assuming the Redskins are actually on the right track.

I wouldn't be shocked to see the Redskins try Ryan Torain at Fullback this year. It's something that Shanahan did with Mike Anderson, a player who he really liked, rather than release him. In this scenario, I have them not getting rid of Mike Sellers because he's still really valuable on special teams. But that's really all Sellers does these days so Torain --> Sellers is pretty defensible.

Anyway, that OL I have up there isn't exactly reaching for the stars in 2011, but who would you acquire that would improve on that situation, and what would you give up to get them?

Remember, there is a cost -- potentially a significant one -- in trying to be less bad in 2011.

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53 James Thrashes

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I hope Hankeron turns into a Sidney Rice type and Aldrick Robinson a Stevie Johnson type

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[quote=GTripp0012;804845]Dude. We're in a lockout. I'm simply moving at the speed of our legal system. What's a week between friends?

Because of Smootsmack's impatience, I am doing the roster that I would build in May, not my predictions for what will happen. Those predictions will come as soon as I know the free agency rules. For right now, assumption is: 2010 rules to player movement.

[B]Quarterbacks (3)[/B]: [U]Rex Grossman[/U], Scott Tolzien (R), Pat Devlin (R)

[B]Runningbacks (5)[/B]: [U]Roy Helu Jr. (R)[/U], Keiland Williams, Evan Royster (R), Henry Hynoski (R), Mike Sellers

[B]Wide Receivers (6)[/B]: [U]Anthony Armstrong[/U], [U]Malcolm Kelly[/U], Leonard Hankerson, Brandon Banks, Terence Austin, Aldrick Robinson

I do think Niles Paul is a better prospect than Austin, but Paul's best chance of making the roster is Kelly getting hurt again and being released.

[B]Tight Ends (3)[/B]: [U]Chris Cooley[/U], [U]Fred Davis[/U], Logan Paulsen

[B]Offensive Linemen (8)[/B]: [U]Trent Williams[/U], [U]Kory Lichtensteiger[/U], [U]Will Montgomery[/U], [U]Erik Cook[/U], [U]Jammal Brown[/U], Stephon Heyer, Clint Oldenburg, Mike Williams

[B]Defensive Linemen (8*)[/B]: [U]Anthony Bryant[/U], [U]Adam Carriker[/U], [U]Vonnie Holliday[/U], Jarvis Jenkins (R), Albert Haynesworth, Ma'ake Kemoeatu, Ian Williams (R), Darrion Scott*

*I have Albert Haynesworth on the opening day roster. I think he's traded by Week 4. My player totals equal 54, but D. Scott is going to be a post-Haynesworth pickup.

[B]Linebackers (9)[/B]: [U]London Fletcher[/U], [U]Chris Wilson[/U], [U]Brian Orakpo[/U], [U]Lorenzo Alexander[/U], HB Blades, Ryan Kerrigan, Perry Riley, Rob Jackson, Markus White

[B]Defensive Backs (9)[/B]: [U]DeAngelo Hall[/U], [U]Kevin Barnes[/U], [U]LaRon Landry[/U], [U]OJ Atogwe[/U], Phillip Buchanon, Reed Doughty, DeJon Gomes, Chris L. Rucker (R), Brandyn Thompson (R)

[B]Specialists (2)[/B]: Graham Gano, Josh Bidwell

[B]Long Snapper (1)[/B]: James Dearth[/quote]I have one adjustment to make to the roster I previously predicted: I think the Redskins sign Shaun Rogers and release Ma'ake Kemoeatu.

I now think this because I looked at QB Hit numbers from 2010, and no interior DT hit the QB more times than Shaun Rogers. That includes 4-3 tackles. Rogers didn't always get the sack, but the Redskins need a nose tackle who can put the quarterback on the ground, and Rogers can do that.

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Double G Williams beat us to it awhile back.
The Saints signed Rogers.

The QB hit stat is a great stat btw-

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[quote=30gut;804946]Double G Williams beat us to it awhile back.
The Saints signed Rogers.

The QB hit stat is a great stat btw-[/quote]You're right. I forgot about that.

Stupid Gregg Williams.

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I think the FO is in re-tooling mode not a re-building modes so my moves will reflect what I think would be the best moves for them following the somewhere in between win now and re-build mandate:

QB: John Beck, Adam Froman (Jerrod Johnson)

RB: Ryan Torain, Roy Helu #2 on a bullet with butterfly wings, Keiland Williams

FB: Darrell Young, Mike Sellers

TE: Chris Cooley, Fred Davis, Logan Paulsen

WR: Santana Moss, Anthony Armstrong, Malcolm Kelly, Leonard Hankerson, Terrence Austin,

OL: Trent Williams, Kory L., [B][U][COLOR="Olive"]Samson Satele[/COLOR][/U][/B], Will Montgomery, [B][COLOR="YellowGreen"]Matt Light[/COLOR][/B], Selvish Capers, Oldenburg, Eric Cook

DL: Adam Carriker, Anthony Bryant, [B]Cullen Jenkins[/B], Jeremy Jarmon, Jarvis Jenkins, Darion Scott, Kedrick Golston, Chris Neild

LB: Brian Orakpo, Ryan Kerrigan,, London Fletcher,Perry Riley, Chris Wilson, HB Blades, , Robert Henson, Lorenzo Alexander

DB: DeAngelo Hall, [B][COLOR="olive"]Chris Houston[/COLOR][/B], Kevin Barnes, Byron Westbrook

S: OJ Atogwe, Laron Landry, Reed Doughty, DeJon Gomes

Nile Paul and Aldrick Robertson

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QB: Rex Grossman, [B]Bruce Gradkowski[/B], John Beck

RB: Ryan Torain, Roy Helu, Evan Royster

FB: Darrell Young

TE: Chris Cooley, Fred Davis, Logan Paulsen

WR: Santana Moss, Anthony Armstrong, Leonard Hankerson, Terrence Austin, Brandon Banks, Niles Paul, [B]Jeff Mahel[/B]

OT: Trent Williams, Ryan Harris, Jammal Brown, Selvish Capers

OG: Kory L., [B]Davin Joseph[/B], Maurice Hurt

C: Will Montgomery, [B]Chase Beeler[/B]

K: Graham Gano

DE: Adam Carriker, Jarvis Jenkins, [B]Cullen Jenkins[/B], Vonnie Holliday

NT: [B]Aubryo Franklin[/B], Anthony Bryant, Chris Neild

OLB: Brian Orakpo, Ryan Kerrigan, Lorenzo Alexander, Chris Wilson

ILB: London Fletcher, Perry Riley, Robert Henson, HB Blades

DB: DeAngelo Hall, Ike Taylor, Byron Westbrook, Kevin Barnes, Brandyn Thompson

S: OJ Atogwe, Laron Landry, Reed Doughty, DeJon Gomes

P: Adam Podlesh

LS: Nick Sundberg

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[quote=Monkeydad;804824]Here's a bold prediction - Helu will "flat out beat" Torain for the starting RB job on opening day.

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/05/27/11/Point-Counterpoint-Sorting-out-the-runni/landing_redskins_loud3r.html?blockID=529510&feedID=6355]Point-Counterpoint: Sorting out the running backs[/url][/quote]

that wouldnt be that surprising at all. we traded up to get helu, obviously shannahan likes him. he had a lot of success in college and fits our offense to a t apparently.

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[quote=Big C;804950]that wouldnt be that surprising at all. we traded up to get helu, obviously shannahan likes him. he had a lot of success in college and fits our offense to a t apparently.[/quote]

I don't know. I mean I love Helu as a big play threat. God knows we need someone who can take a handoff all the way to the endzone. However as I said before I honestly believe that Shanny likes Royster better.

My guess is the reason Helu was drafted first was because the front office felt like Helu had more teams gunning for him on draft day and in the end they wanted to get both Helu and Royster in the same draft, hence the need to get Helu first.

Of course that is all just a guess on my part but after hearing Shanny talking about Royster it just feels like he was the favorite among the two backs that were picked. Obviously a guy with 4.3 speed and 6.0 yards per carry is going to have more value on draft day then an engine that could type back that does everything good and nothing great.

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[quote=Ruhskins;804757]
DB: DeAngelo Hall, Nnamdi Asomugha[/quote]

Id like too see it myself but its actually a tandem weve seen and wasnt successul SUPRISINGLY... Why didnt these two click last time in Oakland?

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[quote=Skins4L;804952]Id like too see it myself but its actually a tandem weve seen and wasnt successul SUPRISINGLY... Why didnt these two click last time in Oakland?[/quote]

They asked Hall to play more bump and run which is similar to asking Haynesworth to play a two gap style.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;804951]I don't know. I mean I love Helu as a big play threat. God knows we need someone who can take a handoff all the way to the endzone. [B] However as I said before I honestly believe that Shanny likes Royster better. [/B]

My guess is the reason Helu was drafted first was because the front office felt like Helu had more teams gunning for him on draft day and in the end they wanted to get both Helu and Royster in the same draft, hence the need to get Helu first.

Of course that is all just a guess on my part but after hearing Shanny talking about Royster it just feels like he was the favorite among the two backs that were picked. Obviously a guy with 4.3 speed and 6.0 yards per carry is going to have more value on draft day then an engine that could type back that does everything good and nothing great.[/quote]

I think you're right here. Royster wasn't being looked at and talked to by us a lot, where as Helu wasn't really even mentioned. Plus I feel like Helu was the great college back that more one dimensional, and Roysters the multi-dimensional still has more to show (Arian Foster for example) type of back.

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[quote=Skins4L;804952]Id like too see it myself but its actually a tandem weve seen and wasnt successul SUPRISINGLY... Why didnt these two click last time in Oakland?[/quote]This was a really good question, so I did some research. Hall's terrible play in Oakland may have been overstated.

I mean, he was terrible there across from Asomugha, meaning he had a pair of disaster games against Jay Cutler and Matt Ryan that year, and then Al Davis held him accountable and released him. I think the perception of Hall's bad games is often not as critical as it deserves to be because Hall is rarely held accountable for poor performance. Davis wrote a check and released him.

But 2008 ended up being a pretty standard DeAngelo Hall season by the end. He can complain about the coverages they made him play in Oakland all he wants, but it's not like 2008 (9 YPA against in OAK, but 5 YPA against in WAS) was somehow more erratic than his 2010 season (5 INTs in two halves in Weeks 7 & 8, 0 INTs rest of season). Hall just lets recent outcomes dictate his abilities on the next play. He should be better than he is, in theory, but the only man who ever held him accountable, Al Davis, is never going to take a chance on him again.

Long story short, Asomugha and Hall would work at least as well here as Rogers and Hall. Hall isn't going to play worse just because he's getting thrown at more. It's just that his mistakes will compound and perhaps be more evident. But they were always there.