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Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread
We're a year and a half away from the 2012 presidential election, but why not have one ongoing thread and discussion as the debate rages on, candidates get stronger/weaker, and those pesky scandals rear their ugly head knocking people out of the race.
I've separated the candidates into three tiers. Of the the top three candidates, Mitt Romney is widely considered the front runner and the odds on favorite to win the party's nomination. The second tier are household names, but it will take a few missteps by one, or all three, top tier candidates for them to have a clear path to the nomination. The bottom tier are too old, too fat, or just too weird to be taken seriously. Meet the candidates. [B] Mitt Romney[/B]: [I](Former Governor Massachusetts[/I]) Mitt Romney has officially launched his second bid for the presidency of the United States. I think the nomination is Romney's to lose honestly. Is he the most conservative candidate in the field, God no. But he has, by far, more money and the establishment will more than likely hold their noses and support him if it means unseating President Obama. Romney's obvious flaw is his implementation of healthcare in Massachusetts, a plan very similar to President Obama's Affordable Healthcare for America Act, which passed in Congress in 2009. It will be a major sticking point for Romney as he'll try to convince voters that "Obamacare" is a government takeover when, in fact, his plan was the template for it and was widely accepted among conservatives in the 1990s. Romney also co-founded a successful private equity firm in 1984, Bain Capital. Conventional thinking goes if you can run a large investment company, then you can run the country and put it's economy back on track. Well, such wisdom didn't work too well for Mitt in 2008 when he ran for president. Let's see if voters are warming up to him this time around. Trivia: What is Mitt Romney's father best known for? [B]Tim Pawlenty[/B]: ([I]Former Governor Minnesota[/I]) Of the entire field, Tim Pawlenty has displayed the most message discipline and fire in the belly to win it all. This guy wants to be president badly. Like Romney, though, Pawlenty governed a liberal state and he has a few "clunkers" (see Cap and Trade) on his record that may not sit well with Tea Party types and fiscal conservatives. The knock on Pawlenty is that he's not a household name and he's not a terribly exciting campaigner. Say what you will, but boring doesn't go over very well in presidential elections. Rightfully or wrongfully, American politics is just as much about style as it is about substance. Conventional wisdom says that T-Paw needs to win Iowa if he stands a chance at winning the nomination. If he can keep his message sharp, hang healthcare around Mitt Romney's neck, you'll hear more from him this time next year if not before then. Trivia: What do Tim Pawlenty and Vikings DE Jared Allen have in common? [B]John Huntsman[/B]: ([I]Former Governor Utah[/I]) Most insiders believe this is the guy the White House is most afraid of and could give the president a run for his money. But the flip side is, how will a Mormon (same is true of Romney) fair in the bible belt. One could argue, however, if the country just elected it's first African-American to the highest office, it's quite possible that people have moved on from the idea that your faith disqualifies you for president. John F. Kennedy faced similar doubts regarding his Catholic roots when he ran for president decades ago. Huntsman is smart, good looking, and is a capable politician with some very good ideas. Me thinks 2016 will be his time to run though. Vice President Huntsman anyone? Trivia: Besides English, what language does John Huntsman speak fluently? [B]Herman Cain[/B]: ([I]Former CEO Godfathers Pizza[/I]) Of the entire field Herman Cain is the wild card and is very quietly turning some heads within GOP circles. Mr. Cain is the former chairman and CEO of Godfather's Pizza and like Mitt Romney brings his business savvy to the presidential race; undoubtedly a desirable quality during harsh economic times and high unemployment. While I don't think Cain has a real shot at winning the nomination, I do think he'll stick around long enough to get a lot of second looks. I wouldn't be surprised to see him run for a senate seat or Congress at some point in the future. Trivia: Before Barack Obama, who was the last African American to hold a Senate seat? [B]Sarah Palin[/B]: ([I]Former Governor Alaska[/I]) Her name recognition and star power will give her an instant boost if she decides to run. Whether Palin was simply testing the waters during her flag waving, I love America --still-- family vacation tour or seriously thinking about running for president is anybody's guess. She's a great campaigner and can draw a crowd like no one else, save President Obama. If Palin announces that she's running, she'll steal the thunder from the other female candidate expected to run, Michele Bachmann. It's now or never for Sarah Palin. Trivia: What country can Palin see from her house? No seriously, she had a brief foray into what industry prior to entering politics? [B] Michele Bachmann[/B]: ([I]Congresswoman Minnesota[/I]) I would be slightly surprised, though not stunned, to see both Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann run for president. They essentially appeal to the Tea Party and socially conservative voter. Bachmann's Iowan roots, where she'll announce her candidacy later this month, will give her a leg up over Palin if they face off during the Iowa Caucus. Congresswoman Bachmann seems hell bent on repealing Obamacare, which many of the freshmen members of the GOP caucus pledged to do once they were in office. This rhetoric could gain traction and appeal to primary voters in some red states, but she'll have to round out her message and broaden her platform as we get deeper into campaign season. Trivia: How many children does Michelle Bachmann have? [B]Ron Paul[/B]: ([I]Congressman Texas[/I]) (see Ron Paul thread) This is Ron Paul's third time running for president. I know, I know Ronald Reagan ran three times and won on his third shot. Ron Paul is no Ronald Reagan. Congressman Paul's candor about the nation's current fiscal crisis, our occupation of the Middle East, and a host of other civil liberty issues resonate with Libertarians and the conservative wing of the party. On the other hand, Paul's positions on abolishing the Department of Education, discontinuing all foreign aid (even Israel) is politically toxic and a non-starter for most moderate and independent voters. That said, I think he's very necessary for the debate and will keep the other candidates on their toes early on. Trivia: In which sport was Ron Paul state champion? [B]Rick Santorum[/B]: ([I]Former Senator Pennsylvania[/I]) Of all the candidates I had the toughest time being objective when writing about Rick Santorum. Sometimes I get the impression that Rick Santorum should have been an evangelist instead of running for public office. Of the entire field Mr. Santorum is easily the most socially conservative and perhaps further right on foreign policy than most of the current field. However, the voters in Santorum's home state of Pennsylvania rejected him to the tune of an 18 point defeat in a senatorial race in 2006. How he squares that huge loss with a run for president remains to be seen. Trivia: Nothing interesting about this guy at all. [sarcasm] [B]Newt Gingrich[/B]: [I](Former Speaker of the House[/I]) When people refer to Newt Gingrich you'll hear the usual stuff, he's an ideas man or leader of the conservative movement. But ever since he gave that stinker of an interview on Meet The Press three weeks ago, saying Paul Ryan's Medicare Plan was "right-wing social engineering", he's been on the DL (that means down low, firstdown) and has fallen out of favor with the Republican party. Now he's, get this, on a two week vacation taking some time off. Dude, we haven't even put on the pads yet and you're already winded? Beyond some of his moral mistakes from the past, is the country really in the mood to elect someone who last held office during the 90s? Trivia: Under his Speakership, the House went Republican for the first time in how many years? [B]Summary[/B]: The majority of Americans have moved on from accepting gays as a part of the fabric of everyday life in America or a woman's right to choose and say what's best for her body. These will always be legitimate hot button topics, but with the country's now facing a host of other crises, domestically and internationally, that's simply not where most Americans are right now. Any candidate, in my opinion, that makes social issues or religion the center piece of his/her general election campaign will be a non-starter. The country has fallen woefully behind in education compared to other industrialized nations, chronic unemployment that neither side can seem to fix and an anemic housing market has continued to slow economic recovery. The idea of socialized medicine has been accepted by nearly every other country, while the cost for healthcare here in America continues to soar and remains the number one contributor to our deficit problems. The views of these candidates will evolve and gain clarity over time, so don't expect them to get too specific about their policy positions right now. Keep your eyes peeled for the next two GOP debates on CNN, June 13th and Fox, August 11. [B]Honorable non-mentions.[/B] Gary Johnson - Former Governor New MexicoCharles Elson "Buddy" Roemer III- Former Governor of Louisiana |
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Might as well have this guy run. He's about as qualified and would probably do just as good as any of the above idiots. That said, at least when he ran the country into the ground even further, he'd be entertaining.
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I'll take a stab at a few of the trivia. Romney's father was the governor of Michigan (I don't know of anything else he was famous for), and Palin dabbled in sportscasting before her political career.
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BringBackJoeT, you are correct on both counts sir.
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Trivia: What country can Palin see from her house? No seriously, she had a brief foray into what industry prior to entering politics?
One thing we do know she was not is a history teacher. Since she lived in Alaska, I'm going to say probably the fishing industry. |
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Huntsman speaks Mandarin, Bachmann has as few as 5, and as many as 30 kids. Depending on how you're looking at it. Pawlenty and Allen got their mullets cut by the same barber. And Mitt Romney's dad, beside being governor of Michigan, was the GOP's preferred choice to be Nixon's first VP over Spiro Agnew
HUNTSMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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[quote=SmootSmack;805923]Huntsman speaks Mandarin, Bachmann has as few as 5, and as many as 30 kids. Depending on how you're looking at it. Pawlenty and Allen got their mullets cut by the same barber. And Mitt Romney's dad, beside being governor of Michigan, was the GOP's preferred choice to be Nixon's first VP over Spiro Agnew
HUNTSMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote] What are you the trivia king or something?:) |
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[quote=12thMan;805920]BringBackJoeT, you are correct on both counts sir.[/quote]
12th, NOOOOO interesting trivia fact(s) on Rick Santorum? Reallllllllllly??? How about whats the definition of Santorum's last name? |
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Oh, there's some interesting trivia on Santorum. It just isn't very flattering.
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[quote=12thMan;805914]We're a year and a half away from the 2012 presidential election, but why not have one ongoing thread and discussion as the debate rages on, candidates get stronger/weaker, and those pesky scandals rear their ugly head knocking people out of the race.
I've separated the candidates into three tiers. Of the the top three candidates, Mitt Romney is widely considered the front runner and the odds on favorite to win the party's nomination. The second tier are household names, but it will take a few missteps by one, or all three, top tier candidates for them to have a clear path to the nomination. The bottom tier are too old, too fat, or just too weird to be taken seriously. Meet the candidates. [B]Mitt Romney[/B]: [I](Former Governor Massachusetts[/I]) Mitt Romney has officially launched his second bid for the presidency of the United States. I think the nomination is Romney's to lose honestly. Is he the most conservative candidate in the field, God no. But he has, by far, more money and the establishment will more than likely hold their noses and support him if it means unseating President Obama. Romney's obvious flaw is his implementation of healthcare in Massachusetts, a plan very similar to President Obama's Affordable Healthcare for America Act, which passed in Congress in 2009. It will be a major sticking point for Romney as he'll try to convince voters that "Obamacare" is a government takeover when, in fact, his plan was the template for it and was widely accepted among conservatives in the 1990s. Romney also co-founded a successful private equity firm in 1984, Bain Capital. Conventional thinking goes if you can run a large investment company, then you can run the country and put it's economy back on track. Well, such wisdom didn't work too well for Mitt in 2008 when he ran for president. Let's see if voters are warming up to him this time around. Trivia: What is Mitt Romney's father best known for? [B]Tim Pawlenty[/B]: ([I]Former Governor Minnesota[/I]) Of the entire field, Tim Pawlenty has displayed the most message discipline and fire in the belly to win it all. This guy wants to be president badly. Like Romney, though, Pawlenty governed a liberal state and he has a few "clunkers" (see Cap and Trade) on his record that may not sit well with Tea Party types and fiscal conservatives. The knock on Pawlenty is that he's not a household name and he's not a terribly exciting campaigner. Say what you will, but boring doesn't go over very well in presidential elections. Rightfully or wrongfully, American politics is just as much about style as it is about substance. Conventional wisdom says that T-Paw needs to win Iowa if he stands a chance at winning the nomination. If he can keep his message sharp, hang healthcare around Mitt Romney's neck, you'll hear more from him this time next year if not before then. Trivia: What do Tim Pawlenty and Vikings DE Jared Allen have in common? [B]John Huntsman[/B]: ([I]Former Governor Utah[/I]) Most insiders believe this is the guy the White House is most afraid of and could give the president a run for his money. But the flip side is, how will a Mormon (same is true of Romney) fair in the bible belt. One could argue, however, if the country just elected it's first African-American to the highest office, it's quite possible that people have moved on from the idea that your faith disqualifies you for president. John F. Kennedy faced similar doubts regarding his Catholic roots when he ran for president decades ago. Huntsman is smart, good looking, and is a capable politician with some very good ideas. Me thinks 2016 will be his time to run though. Vice President Huntsman anyone? Trivia: Besides English, what language does John Huntsman speak fluently? [B]Herman Cain[/B]: ([I]Former CEO Godfathers Pizza[/I]) Of the entire field Herman Cain is the wild card and is very quietly turning some heads within GOP circles. Mr. Cain is the former chairman and CEO of Godfather's Pizza and like Mitt Romney brings his business savvy to the presidential race; undoubtedly a desirable quality during harsh economic times and high unemployment. While I don't think Cain has a real shot at winning the nomination, I do think he'll stick around long enough to get a lot of second looks. I wouldn't be surprised to see him run for a senate seat or Congress at some point in the future. Trivia: Before Barack Obama, who was the last African American to hold a Senate seat? [B]Sarah Palin[/B]: ([I]Former Governor Alaska[/I]) Her name recognition and star power will give her an instant boost if she decides to run. Whether Palin was simply testing the waters during her flag waving, I love America --still-- family vacation tour or seriously thinking about running for president is anybody's guess. She's a great campaigner and can draw a crowd like no one else, save President Obama. If Palin announces that she's running, she'll steal the thunder from the other female candidate expected to run, Michele Bachmann. It's now or never for Sarah Palin. Trivia: What country can Palin see from her house? No seriously, she had a brief foray into what industry prior to entering politics? [B]Michele Bachmann[/B]: ([I]Congresswoman Minnesota[/I]) I would be slightly surprised, though not stunned, to see both Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann run for president. They essentially appeal to the Tea Party and socially conservative voter. Bachmann's Iowan roots, where she'll announce her candidacy later this month, will give her a leg up over Palin if they face off during the Iowa Caucus. Congresswoman Bachmann seems hell bent on repealing Obamacare, which many of the freshmen members of the GOP caucus pledged to do once they were in office. This rhetoric could gain traction and appeal to primary voters in some red states, but she'll have to round out her message and broaden her platform as we get deeper into campaign season. Trivia: How many children does Michelle Bachmann have? [B]Ron Paul[/B]: ([I]Congressman Texas[/I]) (see Ron Paul thread) This is Ron Paul's third time running for president. I know, I know Ronald Reagan ran three times and won on his third shot. Ron Paul is no Ronald Reagan. Congressman Paul's candor about the nation's current fiscal crisis, our occupation of the Middle East, and a host of other civil liberty issues resonate with Libertarians and the conservative wing of the party. On the other hand, Paul's positions on abolishing the Department of Education, discontinuing all foreign aid (even Israel) is politically toxic and a non-starter for most moderate and independent voters. That said, I think he's very necessary for the debate and will keep the other candidates on their toes early on. Trivia: In which sport was Ron Paul state champion? [B]Rick Santorum[/B]: ([I]Former Senator Pennsylvania[/I]) Of all the candidates I had the toughest time being objective when writing about Rick Santorum. Sometimes I get the impression that Rick Santorum should have been an evangelist instead of running for public office. Of the entire field Mr. Santorum is easily the most socially conservative and perhaps further right on foreign policy than most of the current field. However, the voters in Santorum's home state of Pennsylvania rejected him to the tune of an 18 point defeat in a senatorial race in 2006. How he squares that huge loss with a run for president remains to be seen. Trivia: Nothing interesting about this guy at all. [sarcasm] [B]Newt Gingrich[/B]: [I](Former Speaker of the House[/I]) When people refer to Newt Gingrich you'll hear the usual stuff, he's an ideas man or leader of the conservative movement. But ever since he gave that stinker of an interview on Meet The Press three weeks ago, saying Paul Ryan's Medicare Plan was "right-wing social engineering", he's been on the DL (that means down low, firstdown) and has fallen out of favor with the Republican party. Now he's, get this, on a two week vacation taking some time off. Dude, we haven't even put on the pads yet and you're already winded? Beyond some of his moral mistakes from the past, is the country really in the mood to elect someone who last held office during the 90s? Trivia: Under his Speakership, the House went Republican for the first time in how many years? [B]Summary[/B]: The majority of Americans have moved on from accepting gays as a part of the fabric of everyday life in America or a woman's right to choose and say what's best for her body. These will always be legitimate hot button topics, but with the country's now facing a host of other crises, domestically and internationally, that's simply not where most Americans are right now. Any candidate, in my opinion, that makes social issues or religion the center piece of his/her general election campaign will be a non-starter. The country has fallen woefully behind in education compared to other industrialized nations,[SIZE=4] [B]chronic unemployment that neither side can seem to fix and[/B][/SIZE] an anemic housing market has continued to slow economic recovery. The idea of socialized medicine has been accepted by nearly every other country, while the cost for healthcare here in America continues to soar and remains the number one contributor to our deficit problems. The views of these candidates will evolve and gain clarity over time, so don't expect them to get too specific about their policy positions right now. Keep your eyes peeled for the next two GOP debates on CNN, June 13th and Fox, August 11. [B]Honorable non-mentions.[/B] Gary Johnson - Former Governor New MexicoCharles Elson "Buddy" Roemer III- Former Governor of Louisiana[/quote] Thats funny. Now that Obamanomics has faile its both parties fault that he waisted a trillion dollars. I'm sure you blammed both parties when Bush was in office. |
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Look, there's a legitimate debate to be had whether or not Obama's policies have failed or succeeded over the past 2.5 years. I say let's revisit that topic this time next year.
This isn't an anti-Republican thread or a pro-Obama thread. Sure I poked a little fun at the GOP candidates, but I think a few of them have a legit shot at winning this thing. I guess different people will read into it whatever they want to. In the meantime, I'll do my best to steer clear of Obama in this thread and discuss the candidates at hand. |
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If the GOP is half as smart as one would hope they would nominate John Huntsman. He is probably as high character candidate they could field.
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[quote=saden1;805990][B]If the GOP is half as smart as one would hope[/B] they would nominate John Huntsman. He is probably as high character candidate they could field.[/quote]
hence the problem |
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[quote=12thMan;805927]Oh, there's some interesting trivia on Santorum. It just isn't very flattering.[/quote]
Well, by all means, let's hear it! He is my least favorite by far. In fact, the word 'favorite' doesn't even describe him for me. He's a big government social authoritarian-theocrat, and he can go pack sand. |
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[quote=12thMan;805914]We're a year and a half away from the 2012 presidential election, but why not have one ongoing thread and discussion as the debate rages on, candidates get stronger/weaker, and those pesky scandals rear their ugly head knocking people out of the race.
Vice President Huntsman anyone? [B]Michele Bachmann[/B]: ......she'll have to round out her message and broaden her platform as we get deeper into campaign season. [B]Summary[/B]: The country has fallen woefully behind in education compared to other industrialized nations, chronic unemployment that neither side can seem to fix and an anemic housing market has continued to slow economic recovery. The idea of socialized medicine has been accepted by nearly every other country, while the cost for healthcare here in America continues to soar and remains the number one contributor to our deficit problems. The views of these candidates will evolve and gain clarity over time, so don't expect them to get too specific about their policy positions right now. Keep your eyes peeled for the next two GOP debates on CNN, June 13th and Fox, August 11. [/quote]Good thread, great summary. Don't discount the woman president factor. There's a large segment of the population who aren't involved in politics and vote emotionally. I believe there are a great number of women across the politcal spectrum who will vote to have a woman president. If Bachmann does what you suggest, which she will if she gets close to the GOP nomination, a Bachmann / Huntsman ticket could be quite formidable. |
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[quote=NC_Skins;805922]Trivia: What country can Palin see from her house? No seriously, she had a brief foray into what industry prior to entering politics?
One thing we do know she was not is a history teacher. Since she lived in Alaska, I'm going to say probably the fishing industry.[/quote] Just don't ask her about Paul Revere |
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[url=http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_pawlenty_economy]Pawlenty proposes three-tier income tax system - Yahoo! News[/url]
[quote]In a speech expected to be heavy on specifics, Pawlenty was ready to propose a three-tier income tax system: • The estimated 45 percent of U.S. households that did not pay income taxes in 2010 would see no change in their tax rates. • Individuals would pay 10 percent tax on the first $50,000 of income. Couples earning $100,000 would also pay that rate. • "Everything above that would be taxed at 25 percent," Pawlenty said. [B]He also wanted to cut business taxes, reducing the current rate from 35 percent to 15 percent.[/B][/quote] Why do ****ing idiots keep thinking that cutting taxes to businesses are going to "create more jobs!!"? The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over expecting different results. I guess the GOP isn't even remotely trying to hide who they represent these days. [quote]"I think it's ironic that he's talking about a fiscal plan for the entire country when he left his state a mess," Gov. Mark Dayton said in an interview. "He decided he was going to leave and left it to his successor. They knew they were going to kick this down the road."[/quote] Irony indeed. |
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[quote=Mattyk;806008]Just don't ask her about Paul Revere[/quote]
Im glad someone brought this up. What was more ridiculous the fact she said it or the fact she throws up defense for it. This is why i cant stand her, just admit you misspoke and move on. Instead she makes it worst and gets people to even go to the point of changing Wikipedia to support her...Even after I thought i couldnt lose anymore respect for her, I do. |
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[quote=Chico23231;806029]Im glad someone brought this up. What was more ridiculous the fact she said it or the fact she throws up defense for it. This is why i cant stand her, just admit you misspoke and move on. Instead she makes it worst and gets people to even go to the point of changing Wikipedia to support her...Even after I thought i couldnt lose anymore respect for her, I do.[/quote]
She's a moron, nothing else really needs to be said. |
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[quote=Mattyk;806030]She's a moron, nothing else really needs to be said.[/quote]
Which makes me bring up this next point. [quote=Slingin Sammy 33;806004] a Bachmann / Huntsman ticket could be quite formidable.[/quote] [url=http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/high-schooler-challenges-michelle-bachmann-to-constitution-showdown]High schooler challenges Michele Bachmann to Constitution showdown - Yahoo! News[/url] Formidable ticket? ...lol Only if dumbasses are voting. [quote]Rep. Bachmann, the frequent inability you have shown to accurately and factually present even the most basic information about the United States led me to submit the follow challenge, pitting my public education against your advanced legal education:[/quote] I'd vote for that high schooler first. |
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Michele Bachmann is a non-starter. With the batshit crazy stuff that she has said, including anti-feminist statements, she will be crushed. Her candidacy shouldn't be take seriously at all.
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[quote=saden1;805990]If the GOP is half as smart as one would hope they would nominate John Huntsman. He is probably as high character candidate they could field.[/quote]
Well the problem really is convincing the majority of the country to be smart enough to nominate and vote for Huntsman. As brilliant and well qualified as he is, he doesn't have that mass appeal, not yet at least. |
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[quote=NC_Skins;806031][URL="http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/high-schooler-challenges-michelle-bachmann-to-constitution-showdown"]High schooler challenges Michele Bachmann to Constitution showdown - Yahoo! News[/URL]
Formidable ticket? ...lol Only if dumbasses are voting. [/quote]Here's your annointed one. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws]YouTube - ‪Obama Claims He's Visited 57 States‬‏[/ame] I would say most 3rd graders know there are 50 states. And I would assume you voted for Obama... |
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[quote=saden1;806032]Michele Bachmann is a non-starter. With the batshit crazy stuff that she has said, including anti-feminist statements, she will be crushed. Her candidacy shouldn't be take seriously at all.[/quote]
She makes Palin look tame in comparison. I agree, I don't see her as a legit candidate. |
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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;806038]Here's your annointed one.
I would say most 3rd graders know there are 50 states. And I would assume you voted for Obama...[/quote] You really aren't observant, that much is certain. Have you not seen my posts bashing Obama? Yet you still post away furiously referring to him as my "anointed one?" I suggest you reread many of my posts when it comes to the two parties. |
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Interesting.....
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-loses-bin-laden-bounce-romney-on-the-move-among-gop-contenders/2011/06/06/AGT5wiKH_print.html]Obama loses bin Laden bounce; Romney on the move among GOP contenders - The Washington Post[/url] |
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[quote=GMScud;806048]Interesting.....
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-loses-bin-laden-bounce-romney-on-the-move-among-gop-contenders/2011/06/06/AGT5wiKH_print.html]Obama loses bin Laden bounce; Romney on the move among GOP contenders - The Washington Post[/url][/quote] He should have waited until right before the election to cap him...lol |
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[quote=NC_Skins;806028]Why do ****ing idiots keep thinking that cutting taxes to businesses are going to "create more jobs!!"? The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over expecting different results. I guess the GOP isn't even remotely trying to hide who they represent these days.[/quote]
So what would be your solution to creating more jobs? Taxing businesses more? Making it [I]difficult[/I] for businesses to operate and earn a profit? |
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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;806038]Here's your annointed one.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws"]YouTube - ‪Obama Claims He's Visited 57 States‬‏[/URL] I would say most 3rd graders know there are 50 states. And I would assume you voted for Obama...[/quote] That's because he was born in what he thinks is the 57th state.LOL |
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[quote=NC_Skins;806045]You really aren't observant, that much is certain. Have you not seen my posts bashing Obama? Yet you still post away furiously referring to him as my "anointed one?" I suggest you reread many of my posts when it comes to the two parties.[/quote]It is you who must observe and not infer....my "furious" two line post was really tongue in check to show all politicans make mistakes, and all I assumed was that you voted for Obama, based on the content of your posts. And if you respond honestly, I'll bet I'm correct in my assumption.
And just to be fair, I'll throw this out, I voted for McCain in 2008. |
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[quote=GMScud;806048]Interesting.....
[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-loses-bin-laden-bounce-romney-on-the-move-among-gop-contenders/2011/06/06/AGT5wiKH_print.html"]Obama loses bin Laden bounce; Romney on the move among GOP contenders - The Washington Post[/URL][/quote]Great minds think alike, I was just going to post a similar article. |
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Whoever can get the "independent" vote wins...Romney has a huge Obamacare problem. He came in third place in the primaries in 2008 and his record on job creation is a disaster. He will be Gore 2.0 candidate.
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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;806082]It is you who must observe and not infer....my "furious" two line post was really tongue in check to show all politicans make mistakes, and all I assumed was that you voted for Obama, based on the content of your posts. And if you respond honestly, I'll bet I'm correct in my assumption.
And just to be fair, I'll throw this out, I voted for McCain in 2008.[/quote] You've mentioned me being "liberal left" in other posts before. Also, you can tell by the content of my posts? You mean like these? (dissing Obama) [url]http://www.thewarpath.net/debating-with-the-enemy/42464-1500-still-missing-100s-dead-floods-2.html#post805847[/url] (dissing Obama) [url]http://www.thewarpath.net/debating-with-the-enemy/42514-war-drugs-cant-won-according-global-3.html#post805737[/url] (smashing on two democratic politicians) [url]http://www.thewarpath.net/debating-with-the-enemy/42552-hes-a-weiner.html#post805945[/url] So what part of that content has you thinking that I'm a Obama supporter? Is it the other posts where I rail on the GOP? So you totally ignore the posts slamming the other side and focus on my slamming the GOP. Turning the blind eye just for sake of waving your elephant/donkey flag around to go along with the crowd isn't my thing. |
Re: Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread
There is nothing wrong with supporting and voting for Obama. Don't mind SS33 for he is a dedicated GOP minion and a bashful Obama hater. Given the choice between voting for Obama and sacrificing his first child he would choose the latter.
Lord Obama will rise to lead us once more. |
Re: Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread
[quote=NC_Skins;806108]So you totally ignore the posts slamming the other side and focus on my slamming the GOP. Turning the blind eye just for sake of waving your elephant/donkey flag around to go along with the crowd isn't my thing.[/quote]Par for the course with you, a quote/link here, a quote/link there that doesn't address the issue or prove/refute anything, then some name-calling or letting everyone know how much wiser you are than anyone with an opposing view.
But that being said, what I infer from your posts is that you believe Obama's positions aren't left enough. AND....you still didn't answer the question. Take a cue from saden, catch a deep breath, and admit you voted for Obama. It's OK. And of course my friend saden is as eloquent as always. What he fails to mention is, politcally, he and I essentially are opposite sides of the same coin (in a football sense, we're normally in agreement). A while back there was a thread where you answered political questions and were graphed in one of four quadrants (don't have time to go back to find the thread). He and I were in the exact same spot on opposite sides of the graph. And again for clarification, I'm an un-bashful Obama policy hater. :food-smil |
Re: Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;806083]Great minds think alike, I was just going to post a similar article.[/quote]
I wouldn't pay too much attention to any of these polls - good or bad. If the economy starts to tick up a little, you'll see his numbers jump up again. So it's really just a snapshot of where people are at that particular moment. Secondly, I think when the debates really get rolling we'll see how the public feels about Mitt Romney. Bin laden bounce or not, Obama has the advantage on foreign policy and national security. |
Re: Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;806139][B]Par for the course with you, a quote/link here, a quote/link there that doesn't address the issue or prove/refute anything, then some name-calling or letting everyone know how much wiser you are than anyone with an opposing view. [/B]
But that being said, what I infer from your posts is that you believe Obama's positions aren't left enough. AND....you still didn't answer the question. Take a cue from saden, catch a deep breath, and admit you voted for Obama. It's OK. And of course my friend saden is as eloquent as always. What he fails to mention is, politcally, he and I essentially are opposite sides of the same coin (in a football sense, we're normally in agreement). A while back there was a thread where you answered political questions and were graphed in one of four quadrants (don't have time to go back to find the thread). He and I were in the exact same spot on opposite sides of the graph. And again for clarification, I'm an un-bashful Obama policy hater. :food-smil[/quote] yeah thats a trend |
Re: Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;806004]Good thread, great summary. Don't discount the woman president factor. There's a large segment of the population who aren't involved in politics and vote emotionally. I believe there are a great number of women across the politcal spectrum who will vote to have a woman president.
If Bachmann does what you suggest, which she will if she gets close to the GOP nomination, a Bachmann / Huntsman ticket could be quite formidable.[/quote] I have to tell you if Bachman can stay away from shit she doesn't know, she'll do well. I don't think for a second that she's presidential material, but few people are at the beginning of this crazy ass process. She just hired Ed Rollins to run her campaign. He's a hack and old school, but he'll keep her focused and the gaffes to a minimum. If she makes some noise in Iowa, watch out Mittens. |
Re: Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread
Something about Huntsman just doesn't sit right with me. Can't put my finger on it. Nothing negative or anything like that, I just want to see how he handles himself on the big stage.
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Re: Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;806139]But that being said, what I infer from your posts is that you believe Obama's positions aren't left enough. AND....you still didn't answer the question. Take a cue from saden, catch a deep breath, and admit you voted for Obama. It's OK.[/quote]
I've not inferred his policies aren't left enough. I just said I find it ironic that Republicans are bashing Obama, when his policies are nearly identical to that of Bush. Obama hasn't come through on any of his main campaign promises, and I'll never vote for him based off of his performance. I certainly would never vote for those idiots from the GOP either. Like I said, how people can still vote for the GOP with the state our economy is in proves that people will believe anything. |
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