How to spend our money?
 

The last salary cap in 2009 was 128 mil. Assuming it will go up (and it will go up) two years later in 2011 (I'm being very conservative by saying it will be around 130 mil. Not that I expect it will be at that number, but for the purpose of this thread we need a number and I'd prefer to be conservative), how do yo want the redskins to spend their money? Assuming McNabb, Haynesworth, portis, and dockery are cut/traded. We have 25 players under known contracts (according to the warpath numbers) that add up to 75 mil. We also have Atogwe, Trent Williams, Torain, Riley, Keiland Williams, Banks, and Beck under contract, but what their numbers are in 2011 are unlisted. Atogwe's contract averages about 5 mil a year over 5 years. I assume at 31 years old that is backloaded, so I'm saying he makes no more than 4 mil this year. Williams has a 6 year 60 mil contract. I'm going to say is pretty even but money was cleared this year to spend for us, so I'm going to put his number at 8.5 mil. Torain, williams, Beck, Banks, and Riley I'm going to say make 4 mil between them (I think I'm being generous there).

So If your keeping track that is 32 players we have under contract for 91.5 mil (38.5 mil left to spend on 21 players). We drafted 12 players. My best guess is that we will keep 8 of them, and it will cost about 8 million (once again I believe I'm being generous. With the new rookie wage scale, Kerrigan should be making less, but I'm going to say he makes 4 mil in his first year, and all the other contracts/signing bonuses of players cut average out to another 4 mil.

[B]So now there is 30.5 mil left to spend on 13 players. [/B] This is really the meat and bones of this thread. How to spend 30.5 mil (or however much money you want to say we have to spend) on 13 players ( or however many players you say we have to spend on).

I say we spend big money on Cullen Jenkins, a WR (probably Moss, but hopefully Jones), an O-lineman, and an inside linebacker (hopefully...there isn't much of a market, but with rocky gone and Fletch being so old, we need a good young ILB). I say we spend 5.5 mil this year on Jenkins, 5 mil on Moss (but like I said hopefully 5 mil on Jones), 4 mil on Ryan Harris (no idea how much his contract will be, that is my best guess for his first year's salary), and 6 mil on Rudd (the successor to fletcher) we have 10 mil left to spend on 9 players.
I'd say we spend 2 mil on Grossman (he only got 470k last year), 1.5 mil on buchanon (I think our front 7 is more of a priority than our secondary, and we already signed Otagwe), 1.5 mil on Mike Williams (who supposedly was doing very good before his injury), 1.5 mil on Stephen Heyer and 1.5 mil on Will Montgomery.
That is 2 mil we have left to spend on 4 players. I don't know who those players will be, but I assume one will be an undrafted Fullback, one will be an undrafted qb, One will be a corner, and I think Malcolm Kelly and Roydell Williams will get cut freeing up about 1.2 mil for us to get OLB depth (hopefully someone who can play OLB and ILB...I don't trust Riley or young) and a blocking TE.

Unfortunately cutting Rabach will save only 1.55 mil to the cap, and cutting Hicks will only save 150k, so I think they are here to stay for another year. The value we'd get at those two positions for the combined amount of 1.7 mil wouldn't be an upgrade.

What do you guys think will happen with the money we have to spend?

For the record, I want Jenkins, Jones, Harris, and Rudd. Jones, Harris, and Rudd are young and will be with our team for some time, which is my main priority with this free agency. I want Jenkins because I feel he will help the culture of our team with veteran leadership as well as help give pointers to players on how to run the 3-4 effectively. At 31, I don't expect him to stay around too long, but his temporary impact I feel will stick with the team after he is gone or not as effective. I think this season is a wash, and I just hope to build for the future.

To clarify things I think Doughty, Sellers, Wilson, Blades, Paulsen, Holliday, Oldenberg, and Westbrook will only be only be resigned if they agree to the vet min with no bonus.

Rocky, Brown and Los will be gone. Los and Rocky for sure, Brown might not get a good offer and might come crawling back if we can't land harris.

God I hope there are a few people out there that analyze this shit as much as I do. I'd love some in depth responses/critiques on my post.

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we won't spend 2 mil on Grossman. We are the only place that will even consider him and we are his only chance to start again in the NFL.

I think we will resign Brown. Los is gone. Rocky may be back.

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Here's about as in depth as I'll get on this, our areas of need I hope to see addressed:

OL
DL
LB
WR

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[quote=Mattyk;810216]Here's about as in depth as I'll get on this, our areas of need I hope to see addressed:

OL
DL
LB
WR[/quote]

Lol so my James Jones, Ryan Harris, Cullen Jenkins, Barrett Rudd wants line up with you pretty well.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;810215]we won't spend 2 mil on Grossman. We are the only place that will even consider him and we are his only chance to start again in the NFL.

I think we will resign Brown. Los is gone. Rocky may be back.[/quote]

I think they'll try to juggle Brown and Harris. If they can't get Ryan then they'll run to sign Brown. Personally I would rather have Brown. Much more durable. Harris has been hurt for the last two years. I also think they'll sign Jenkins and Franklin. Depending on how the situation in Tampa sorts out they'll also try to sign Joesph. Finally I would expect them to go after one of the more expensive corners. Nnadami seems to be the most likely target with Johnathan Joesph as a fallback option.

So to review.

OT - Brown or Harris
OG - Davin Joesph
NT - A. Franklin
DE - C. Jenkins
CB - Nadami or Joesph

Followed by a couple of other role players. Paul Posluszny might also be another target but he seems intent on staying in Buffalo.

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[quote=Mattyk;810216]Here's about as in depth as I'll get on this, our areas of need I hope to see addressed:

OL
DL
LB
WR[/quote]

For some reason i see our own WR's panning out this year. (thats if we resign Moss....and we will) I really have a great feeling about Hankerson and Aldrick Robinson. Terrence Austin when giving the chance to play really impressed me. Then of course there is AA. Kelly is a wild card. I hope he can stay heathly. That being said i wont be too upset if we DO NOT address the WR position.

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Let's try to steal Posluszny from the Bills. I think this would be a great investment for the team (experienced 3-4 ILB and the Fletcher's heir to lead the defense).

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;810221]For some reason i see our own WR's panning out this year. (thats if we resign Moss....and we will) I really have a great feeling about Hankerson and Aldrick Robinson. Terrence Austin when giving the chance to play really impressed me. Then or coure there is AA. Kelly is a wild card. I hope he can stay heathly. That being said i wont be too upset if we DO NOT address the WR position.[/quote]

I'll be happy if we just keep Moss, and that's as far as I would go with addressing the receivers. If we choose to let Moss sign elsewhere though, we would need to bring in a vet.

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[quote=Ruhskins;810222]Let's try to steal Posluszny from the Bills. I think this would be a great investment for the team (experienced 3-4 ILB and the Fletcher's heir to lead the defense).[/quote]

Money talks...........but the Bills would really have to be stupid to let him slip away...SO THERES A CHANCE!!!!

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[quote=Ruhskins;810222]Let's try to steal Posluszny from the Bills. I think this would be a great investment for the team (experienced 3-4 ILB and the Fletcher's heir to lead the defense).[/quote]

The Bills would be absolutely dumb to let one of their leaders and truly solid players go.

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[quote=Mattyk;810223]I'll be happy if we just keep Moss, and that's as far as I would go with addressing the receivers. If we choose to let Moss sign elsewhere though, we would need to bring in a vet.[/quote]

Agreed.........

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[quote=diehardskin2982;810215]we won't spend 2 mil on Grossman. We are the only place that will even consider him and we are his only chance to start again in the NFL.

I think we will resign Brown. Los is gone. Rocky may be back.[/quote]

I think 2 mil on Grossman is reasonable. His agent knows we need a qb, knows we want him to start, and will hold out until 2 mil is ponied up. Some other team should be willing to give him 1 mil to be a backup, he isn't that bad.

I say we sign Ryan Harris over brown because he was drafted by Shanny, and Brown has question marks with his health and age. Last year he split time with Heyer, which is not an encouraging sign.

I doubt Rocky will be back because he did poorly in our 3-4 defense and he will want a larger contract. Someone like the giants, Jags, Titans, Bucs, etc... who run a 4-3 would probably be willing to offer him more than us. Keep in mind of the increased salary floor. Teams will be forced to spend.

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[quote=Mattyk;810223]I'll be happy if we just keep Moss, and that's as far as I would go with addressing the receivers. If we choose to let Moss sign elsewhere though, we would need to bring in a vet.[/quote]

Same here. I don't think we should be breaking the bank on a FA wideout when we have a number of young receivers that could develop and we have a questionable QB situation.

[quote=SOUL-SKINS;810224]Money talks...........but the Bills would really have to be stupid to let him slip away...SO THERES A CHANCE!!!![/quote]

Can you imagine a LB group of Rak, Kerrigan, Fletch and Posluszny? But yeah, the Bills would be insane to let him go. So fire up Redskins One!!

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[quote=Dirtbag59;810220]I think they'll try to juggle Brown and Harris. If they can't get Ryan then they'll run to sign Brown. Personally I would rather have Brown. Much more durable. Harris has been hurt for the last two years. I also think they'll sign Jenkins and Franklin. Depending on how the situation in Tampa sorts out they'll also try to sign Joesph. Finally I would expect them to go after one of the more expensive corners. Nnadami seems to be the most likely target with Johnathan Joesph as a fallback option.

So to review.

OT - Brown or Harris
OG - Davin Joesph
NT - A. Franklin
DE - C. Jenkins
CB - Nadami or Joesph

Followed by a couple of other role players. Paul Posluszny might also be another target but he seems intent on staying in Buffalo.[/quote]

I don't think we have the money to sign all these guys. I think You have to drop one (or three if Nnamdi is signed).

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[quote=Dirtbag59;810220]I think they'll try to juggle Brown and Harris. If they can't get Ryan then they'll run to sign Brown. Personally I would rather have Brown. Much more durable. Harris has been hurt for the last two years. I also think they'll sign Jenkins and Franklin. Depending on how the situation in Tampa sorts out they'll also try to sign Joesph. Finally I would expect them to go after one of the more expensive corners. Nnadami seems to be the most likely target with Johnathan Joesph as a fallback option.

So to review.

OT - Brown or Harris
OG - Davin Joesph
NT - [B]A. Franklin[/B]
DE - C. Jenkins
CB - Nadami or Joesph

Followed by a couple of other role players. Paul Posluszny might also be another target but he seems intent on staying in Buffalo.[/quote]

Take him out and sign Burnett LB for the chargers.

Pos is injury prone, I don't think he'll pan out here. Plus I think that if he leaves buffalo, he'll go to a 4-3 defense, he just seems more comfortable in the 43 than the 34.

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I wouldn't go after NNAMDI at this point.. He's 30 and we dont need to give 1 player 50M anymore please..

OLINE-DLINE-WR

Maybe get Joseph from CIN..

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[quote=skinsfaninok;810239]I wouldn't go after NNAMDI at this point.. He's 30 and we dont need to give 1 player 50M anymore please..

OLINE-DLINE-WR

Maybe get Joseph from CIN..[/quote]

Maybe this will make you change your mind on Nnamdi
[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8209ba7d/article/cb2k-bailey-asomugha-shut-down-receivers-differently]NFL.com news: CB2K: Bailey, Asomugha shut down receivers differently[/url]

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[quote=CultBrennan59;810244]Maybe this will make you change your mind on Nnamdi
[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8209ba7d/article/cb2k-bailey-asomugha-shut-down-receivers-differently]NFL.com news: CB2K: Bailey, Asomugha shut down receivers differently[/url][/quote]

Asomuaghs contract will be the same as 3 quality starters in the NFL. Plus, he wasn't thrown to because of Oakland's system. He lined up on the same side, in the same position every play, and offenses would manuever their Wrs routes so that Nnamdi would cover a decoy WR. Not trying to take away from how good he is, but I'm just saying those statistics are a little skewed due to offenses purposefully creating mismatches to be advantageous towards them.

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[quote=Mattyk;810216]Here's about as in depth as I'll get on this, our areas of need I hope to see addressed:

OL
DL
LB
WR[/quote]

How about Qb if a good one suddenly becomes available?

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[quote=skinster;810249]Asomuaghs contract will be the same as 3 quality starters in the NFL. Plus, he wasn't thrown to because of Oakland's system. He lined up on the same side, in the same position every play, and offenses would manuever their Wrs routes so that Nnamdi would cover a decoy WR. Not trying to take away from how good he is, but I'm just saying those statistics are a little skewed due to offenses purposefully creating mismatches to be advantageous towards them.[/quote]

So you're saying that offensives purposely game planned around him? Umm that means he's a game changer/shutdown corner. He's one of the best. So other teams dont do that against Revis or Bailey..... just Asomuagh? Weird

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;810252]So you're saying that offensives purposely game planned around him? Umm that means he's a game changer/shutdown corner. He's one of the best. So other teams dont do that against Revis or Bailey..... just Asomuagh? Weird[/quote]

No I'm saying the Raiders system makes it incredibly easy to gameplan around him. Something that would happen no matter who the number one corner in Oakland was (it just happens more with Nnamdi because he is Nnamdi). He is still great, but the lack of times he has been thrown to is a skewed statistic due to the incredible ease of offenses to gameplan against the raiders secondary.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;810220]I think they'll try to juggle Brown and Harris. If they can't get Ryan then they'll run to sign Brown. Personally I would rather have Brown. Much more durable. Harris has been hurt for the last two years. I also think they'll sign Jenkins and Franklin. Depending on how the situation in Tampa sorts out they'll also try to sign Joesph. Finally I would expect them to go after one of the more expensive corners. Nnadami seems to be the most likely target with Johnathan Joesph as a fallback option.

So to review.

OT - Brown or Harris
OG - Davin Joesph
NT - A. Franklin
DE - C. Jenkins
CB - Nadami or Joesph

Followed by a couple of other role players. Paul Posluszny might also be another target but he seems intent on staying in Buffalo.[/quote]

Nnamdi will break the bank and limit other signings.

I'd rather have Brandon Mebane than Aubrayo Franklin. Younger, cheaper, and likely ends up being just as capable.

Otherwise nice list. If we re-sign Brown then we can drop the OT and sign Posluszny instead, should he wish to leave Buffalo.

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[quote=Lotus;810273]Nnamdi will break the bank and limit other signings.

I'd rather have Brandon Mebane than Aubrayo Franklin. Younger, cheaper, and likely ends up being just as capable.

Otherwise nice list. If we re-sign Brown then we can drop the OT and sign Posluszny instead, should he wish to leave Buffalo.[/quote]

Considering this teams history though should we really doubt that they're going to make a huge push for Nnamdi?

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[quote=Dirtbag59;810279]Considering this teams history though should we really doubt that they're going to make a huge push for Nnamdi?[/quote]

You are correct. We have no reason to doubt such a push. Hopefully Bruce Allen has a cool head on this one.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;810279]Considering this teams history though should we really doubt that they're going to make a huge push for Nnamdi?[/quote]

If Vinny was still here I would totally be expecting it.

With Allen, I doubt it.

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[quote=Mattyk;810284]If Vinny was still here I would totally be expecting it.

With Allen, I doubt it.[/quote]

I don't know. Allen is certainly smarter and better at directing the draft. Also a little better at not overpaying for Free Agents. However my gut keeps telling me that they're going to go after NA hard. I hope he doesn't but I keep on seeing rumor after rumor that they're going to make a push for NA. I also remember hearing about Allen being pleased with the amount of financial flexibility and support he would get from Danny.

Then again seeing as how the entire Beast is targeting him they could just be interested in jacking up the price.

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I agree with Lotus' idea, except instead my corner idea is we get Ike Taylor. Ike would bring a physicality to the defense and he come from the defense were trying to emulate in Pittsburgh.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;810288]I don't know. Allen is certainly smarter and better at directing the draft. Also a little better at not overpaying for Free Agents. However my gut keeps telling me that they're going to go after NA hard. I hope he doesn't but I keep on seeing rumor after rumor that they're going to make a push for NA. I also remember hearing about Allen being pleased with the amount of financial flexibility and support he would get from Danny.

Then again seeing as how the entire Beast is targeting him they could just be interested in jacking up the price.[/quote]

I'm just curious if anyone recollects how good has the media been at predicting what BA and MS have done. Weren't some ppl in the sports media speculating that we were going after Peppers and nothing ended up happening?

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[quote=Mattyk;810216]Here's about as in depth as I'll get on this, our areas of need I hope to see addressed:

OL
DL
LB
WR[/quote]

No CB? Besides MeAngelo "Toast" Hall, who else is there?

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[quote=Dirtbag59;810288]I don't know. Allen is certainly smarter and better at directing the draft. Also a little better at not overpaying for Free Agents. However my gut keeps telling me that they're going to go after NA hard. I hope he doesn't but I keep on seeing rumor after rumor that they're going to make a push for NA. I also remember hearing about Allen being pleased with the amount of financial flexibility and support he would get from Danny.

Then again seeing as how the entire Beast is targeting him they could just be interested in jacking up the price.[/quote]

There has been probably a dozen teams linked to him, and considering the media loves to link the Skins to just about every available big name, I'm not putting much stock in the rumors.

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[quote=NC_Skins;810294]No CB? Besides MeAngelo "Toast" Hall, who else is there?[/quote]

Sure, corner will be a need especially if Los wants big money. My quick hitting list wasn't meant to be very thorough.

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[quote=Ruhskins;810292]I'm just curious if anyone recollects how good has the media been at predicting what BA and MS have done. Weren't some ppl in the sports media speculating that we were going after Peppers and nothing ended up happening?[/quote]

All Smootsmack did last year was talk about how we were going to go after Peppers and how Peppers was a lock to come here then free agency starts and we get no Peppers. Smootsmack was terrible on that one. Even after he signed with the Bears Smoot shifted gears to, "Dude just watch we're going to find a way to trade for Peppers before the trade deadline in a four team trade that will also get the Skins Justin Smith and Chase Daniel."

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[quote=Dirtbag59;810302]All Smootsmack did last year was talk about how we were going to go after Peppers and how Peppers was a lock to come here then free agency starts and we get no Peppers. Smootsmack was terrible on that one. Even after he signed with the Bears Smoot shifted gears to, "Dude just watch we're going to find a way to trade for Peppers before the trade deadline in a four team trade that will also get the Skins Justin Smith and Chase Daniel."[/quote]

LOL! I also said there was no way we'd sign Grossman and Torain and trade for Brown. Damn me!

I still want Smith and Chase here

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[quote=Mattyk;810225]The Bills would be absolutely dumb to let one of their leaders and truly solid players go.[/quote][IMG]http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/players/10/03/questions1010/t1_fletcher.jpg[/IMG]

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I was fidgeting around with this the other day just to see how far cap dollars would go, so that this could be made into a blog post.

Here's what I actually wrote down:

QB Caleb Hanie (2011 cap: $1.4 mil)
QB Rex Grossman (2011 cap: $1.0 mil) (non-guaranteed)
RB Jerious Norwood (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
FB Vonta Leach (2011 cap: $1 mil)
RG Mike Brisiel (2011 cap: $.9 mil)
RT Ryan Harris (2011 cap: $1.6 mil)
NT Alan Branch (2011 cap: $.6 mil)
DE Cullen Jenkins (2011 cap: $2.5 mil)
LB Chris Wilson (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
LB Matt Roth (2011 cap: $1.3 mil)
LB HB Blades (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
CB William Gay (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
CB Philip Buchanon (2011 cap: $1 mil)
S Reed Doughty (2011 cap ($.9 mil)

Total cap money spent on UFA $13.8 million
Players added: 14

If you want to pencil in Nnamdi, you're going to have to put away about $7 million of 2011 cap space to do so. That would seem to make the Bucs the only team that is actually "likely" to get him. The Raiders and Cowboys are going to be hard pressed to match a best offer, the Lions feel like they're going to be priced out of the market for him, the Texans are going hard after him but if it comes down to best offer, Tampa almost certainly can beat it.

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[quote=SmootSmack;810316]LOL! I also said there was no way we'd sign Grossman and Torain and trade for Brown. Damn me!

I still want Smith and Chase here[/quote]

You.....Sudanese are all the same............

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[quote=GTripp0012;810318][IMG]http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/players/10/03/questions1010/t1_fletcher.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Would they make the same mistake again? Doubt it but we'll see. Different people calling the shots now too.

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[quote=GTripp0012;810320]I was fidgeting around with this the other day just to see how far cap dollars would go, so that this could be made into a blog post.

Here's what I actually wrote down:

QB Caleb Hanie (2011 cap: $1.4 mil)
[B]QB Rex Grossman [/B](2011 cap: $1.0 mil) (non-guaranteed)
RB Jerious Norwood (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
[B]FB Vonta Leach[/B] (2011 cap: $1 mil)
[B]RG Mike Brisiel[/B] (2011 cap: $.9 mil)
[B]RT Ryan Harris[/B] (2011 cap: $1.6 mil)
[B]NT Alan Branch[/B] (2011 cap: $.6 mil)
[B]DE Cullen Jenkins[/B] (2011 cap: $2.5 mil)
LB Chris Wilson (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
LB Matt Roth (2011 cap: $1.3 mil)
[B]LB HB Blades[/B] (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
CB William Gay (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
CB Philip Buchanon (2011 cap: $1 mil)
S Reed Doughty (2011 cap ($.9 mil)

Total cap money spent on UFA $13.8 million
Players added: 14

If you want to pencil in Nnamdi, you're going to have to put away about $7 million of 2011 cap space to do so. That would seem to make the Bucs the only team that is actually "likely" to get him. The Raiders and Cowboys are going to be hard pressed to match a best offer, the Lions feel like they're going to be priced out of the market for him, the Texans are going hard after him but if it comes down to best offer, Tampa almost certainly can beat it.[/quote]

Very interesting post,

I'd take about half the guys you wrote down, yet year after year the redskins go after about half the guys I want and half the guys I don't want so maybe you're on to something here. I bolded the players which I agree with you we should get/look at in FA.

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[quote=GTripp0012;810320]I was fidgeting around with this the other day just to see how far cap dollars would go, so that this could be made into a blog post.

Here's what I actually wrote down:

QB Caleb Hanie (2011 cap: $1.4 mil)
QB Rex Grossman (2011 cap: $1.0 mil) (non-guaranteed)
RB Jerious Norwood (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
FB Vonta Leach (2011 cap: $1 mil)
RG Mike Brisiel (2011 cap: $.9 mil)
RT Ryan Harris (2011 cap: $1.6 mil)
NT Alan Branch (2011 cap: $.6 mil)
DE Cullen Jenkins (2011 cap: $2.5 mil)
LB Chris Wilson (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
LB Matt Roth (2011 cap: $1.3 mil)
LB HB Blades (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
CB William Gay (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
CB Philip Buchanon (2011 cap: $1 mil)
S Reed Doughty (2011 cap ($.9 mil)

Total cap money spent on UFA $13.8 million
Players added: 14

If you want to pencil in Nnamdi, you're going to have to put away about $7 million of 2011 cap space to do so. That would seem to make the Bucs the only team that is actually "likely" to get him. The Raiders and Cowboys are going to be hard pressed to match a best offer, the Lions feel like they're going to be priced out of the market for him, the Texans are going hard after him but if it comes down to best offer, Tampa almost certainly can beat it.[/quote]

Gtripp, I think your estimates are way off. Next year veterans are slated to make more than ever due to the raised salary floor, salary cap increase, the lowered rookie wage scale, and the shortened time to sign veterans will raise the price in a battle.

Keeping in mind that this years numbers contracts should be significantly larger than in the past, lets take a sample of veteran contracts from last year to compare to.

Kemo made 3.2, Rabach made 2.4, Hicks made 1.8, Golston made 1.8 (tendered), Heyer made 1.7, Wilson made 1.7, Buchanon made 1.5, Montgomery made 1.2, Sellers made 1.1, Daniels made 0.9, and Alexander made 0.9.

I don't see very many of your numbers being accurate considering many of the players you mentioned were significantly more talented than the players I just mentioned, and are making less in their first year of their contract (compare cullen jenkins 1st year of 2.5 to kemos 1st year of 3.2) when they are more talented, which demand a higher price tag, and are participating in a market which will demand significantly higher contracts for veterans.

Look at what comparable veterans have made in the past to the players you mentioned in their first year. Add a minimum of a million on to that and that is what that should be a more accurate indication of what their 2011 cap number should be.

Not to mention we need to hit the salary floor also.

P.S. There is no way Nnamdi is making 7 mil in any year of his contract. I've heard reports that he will be making 18 mil a year, which even if that is not true, it should still be way too high for him to make 7 mil in any year of his contract.

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[quote=Mattyk;810323]Would they make the same mistake again? Doubt it but we'll see. Different people calling the shots now too.[/quote]

I think the best bet of him leaving buffalo would be him just wanting to leave. With Fletcher hindsight is 20/20, and yes they should have kept him, but at the time it wasn't the worst move in the world to let him walk. He was 31 years old at the time, and wanted a 5 year deal. Buffalo being a small market team, I'd say made the right decision in letting their older player walk due to their restricted budget.
Not to mention the patriots philosophy of not resigning older players works out pretty well for them. Let players leave while their still good (and get compensation in the draft) as opposed to keep them around until they get bad. Something the redskins never learned (Jon Jansen, Randy Thomas, Bruce Smith, need I go on?).

I know this site too well and I know people will not read my post in depth, I just want to emphasize that I did say they made the wrong move by not resigning him (in hindsight).