Redskins ready to $pend?
 

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/13/report-santonio-holmes-primary-objective-on-long-redskins-wish-list/]Report: Santonio Holmes “primary objective” on long Redskins wish list | ProFootballTalk[/url]

According to this they are

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Lol SS posted the news first in free agency thread..

Holmes is playmaker, that's for sure but I will be really surprised if Jets lets him go.

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Yeah I know, thought this was new thread worthy, the FA thread is getting a bit tedious

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I don't know about all that.. I'd like to get some guys but my gosh another BIG$ Offseason?

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I could get a lot more excited about these picks ups if I new who our QB was going to be.

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Now there is report (SS's link in free agency thread) claiming that Mike S is set on moving John Beck to #1 QB..

Honestly, I wonder what are the plans for WRs since they want to resign Moss and now wants to sign Holmes.. Should we expect to sign Niles Paul & Aldrick Robinson to practice squad?

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[quote=Alvin Walton;810538]I could get a lot more excited about these picks ups if I new who our QB was going to be.[/quote]


John Beck according to many folks around the media

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I really thought VY was going to be but with this lockout lasting so long I doubt it now

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So another JLC sourced article I see. As always I'll take it with a grain of salt.

I am not 100% sure about Holmes, I hope his issues that got him out of Pittsburgh are far behind him. He'd be a helluva pick up, although it will all depend who our QB will be. I would love to get Yanda, either him or Davin Joseph would be huge offensive line pick ups. I'm not too crazy about Gaither, I think he has health issues, and seems to have work ethic problems (red flag). I'd rather stick with Brown and get some profits from the draft picks we invested in him.

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Why draft all those rookie WRs then and Jarvis Jenkins so high? Might as well reached for other positions of needs. This sounds ridiculous.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;810541]John Beck according to many folks around the media[/quote]

Yea, I've heard that 162 times but the media doesn't make that decision.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;810549]Yea, I've heard that 162 times but the media doesn't make that decision.[/quote]

I'm going to believe it because who else can we get in that short of a time?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;810550]I'm going to believe it because who else can we get in that short of a time?[/quote]

Agreed. With no offseason it's likely that our QB answer, for this year at least, is going to have to be an option that is already on the roster.

Unless there's someone out there that is very well versed in the type of WCO we run here.

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[quote=diehard;810547]Why draft all those rookie WRs then and Jarvis Jenkins so high? Might as well reached for other positions of needs. This sounds ridiculous.[/quote]

Smokescreen. We all know how Shanny/Allen is not about putting all their cards on the table. With our reputation for spending we need to take attention off of who we may be actually looking at to keep the other suitors distracted *cough*Asamongah*cough*

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[quote=Alvin Walton;810549]Yea, I've heard that 162 times but the media doesn't make that decision.[/quote]

But it makes a lot of sense because of the lockout delay and Beck has been with the team and knows the offense a lot better.

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[quote=SkinzWin;810556]But it makes a lot of sense because of the lockout delay and Beck has been with the team and knows the offense a lot better.[/quote]

I would agree but that doesn't mean we cannot retain Grossman or sign Vince Young.

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[quote=Mattyk;810530][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/13/report-santonio-holmes-primary-objective-on-long-redskins-wish-list/]Report: Santonio Holmes “primary objective” on long Redskins wish list | ProFootballTalk[/url]

According to this they are[/quote]

damn thats a ton of players to have targeted. Yanda, Holmes, and Cullen would be good signings. Cofield, Kris Jenkins...not some much on them. Id take Holmes over Moss...but we dont need both.

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Holmes is good, don't get me wrong, but if we're trying to resign moss, then we really don't need holmes, they're like the same receiver. Holmes also gets into legal problems. And I really don't see the Jets letting him go, they like him and he likes them.

Marshall Yanda though would be a Great addition to this team, thats a signing I'd approve.

Kris Jenkins- I've said it before, why get a guy who's coming off two acl surgeries in the past couple of years, On the same knee. We just signed Kemo with his knee problems and that one didn't do anything now did it.

Cullen Jenkins I'd love to have.

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If we go into the season with Grossman and Beck as our top QBs, I think Grossman starts week one

They definitely want interior OL help, Joseph is probably out of reach and Yanda might be too actually

I don't really know Haynesworth at all, but have had the chance to meet Kris Jenkins multiple times and he's the complete opposite of what we all perceive AH to be-personality wise. Super nice guy. From a locker room and community and media relations point of view, he'd be a godsend. On the field is probably another story

I think Holmes is not likely to happen

Aubrayo Franklin is high on the radar. But could be another one out of reach

Kevin Burnett could be another target

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[quote=SmootSmack;810578]If we go into the season with Grossman and Beck as our top QBs, I think Grossman starts week one

They definitely want interior OL help, Joseph is probably out of reach and Yanda might be too actually

I don't really know Haynesworth at all, but have had the chance to meet Kris Jenkins multiple times and he's the complete opposite of what we all perceive AH to be-personality wise. Super nice guy. From a locker room and community and media relations point of view, he'd be a godsend. On the field is probably another story

I think Holmes is not likely to happen

Aubrayo Franklin is high on the radar. But could be another one out of reach

[B]Kevin Burnett could be another target[/B][/quote]

Yeah ILB is a need, unless the skins want to start Perry Riley, any news on him being the starter and coaches liking him?

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They like Riley at lot. Will he start? Don't know

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Rex loves Holmes and will never let him go...forget about getting him and aim lower.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;810583]Yeah ILB is a need, unless the skins want to start Perry Riley, any news on him being the starter and coaches liking him?[/quote]

ILB will be one of the more interesting camp stories, if there's a camp. Rocky's chances of staying have increased, according to SS, and then Lorenzo moving to ILB adds another. I would really like to see that position play out w/the guys we have, including Rocky.

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Quite a sensational title for the article, JLC. Ah, some things never change.

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This is, what, the 7th straight week we're we've been linked to yet another player?

I mean...it's getting to the point where it seems like we're targeting EVERY free agent available. It's ridiculous. We can't try and get EVERYONE.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;810561]Holmes is good, don't get me wrong, but if we're trying to resign moss, then we really don't need holmes, they're like the same receiver. Holmes also gets into legal problems. And I really don't see the Jets letting him go, they like him and he likes them.

Marshall Yanda though would be a Great addition to this team, thats a signing I'd approve.

Kris Jenkins- I've said it before, why get a guy who's coming off two acl surgeries in the past couple of years, On the same knee. We just signed Kemo with his knee problems and that one didn't do anything now did it.

Cullen Jenkins I'd love to have.[/quote]

I don't care about legal problems unless Holmes is suspended in the playoffs. I agree with the kris Jenkins point, but would still love to sign him to have him next to his brother. I think that would help create great team chemistry. Plus Jenkins could teach other's how to properly play the NT position in the 3-4. Even from a coaching perspective (haslett/shanny) picking up cullen and kris. They can say how things were done in GB and how things were done in NY, and Haslett can sample that and use it to improve our overall defense.

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[quote=skinster;810604]I don't care about legal problems unless Holmes is suspended in the playoffs. I agree with the kris Jenkins point, but would still love to sign him to have him next to his brother. I think that would help create great team chemistry. Plus Jenkins could teach other's how to properly play the NT position in the 3-4. Even from a coaching perspective (haslett/shanny) picking up cullen and kris. [B]They can say how things were done in GB and how things were done in NY, and Haslett can sample that and use it to improve our overall defense.[/B][/quote]

Good point, but they could also just sign a backup that gets cut from one of those teams and it would be about the same thing

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I just want to say that I am a logical person, and a fan of the tank for luck strategy. However, I am red in the face with excitement right now about all the free agents we are looking to pick up. The fan in me is overtaking what I know is in the best longterm interest of our team and is totally on board with buying every free agent mentioned. I wonder how long my excitement will last? I'll probably complain about how this was the dumbest thing we could possibly do at the end of the season (which it probably is) but I'm just so excited to see us (hopefully) signing all these guys. My emotions are taking over my better thinking.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;810607]Good point, but they could also just sign a backup that gets cut from one of those teams and it would be about the same thing[/quote]

It's not the same thing. Backups don't have the experience as players that execute and actually get to play and see what works and what doesnt. Plus if healthy Jenkins can actually contribute to our team, and if not, he can provide leadership to our other NT's. But I do see your point. Although I don't think it is quite the same, you are mostly right with regards to backups being able to give info on other systems to haslett. But I don't think these players are being pursued purely for their knowledge of other systems, I think it is simply a bonus that adds to us wanting them.

I also think signing Barry Coefield could be a way to get info on the giants (as a plus...not that I don't think we don't want him)

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Also Kris will be cheap after two awful injury filled seasons. He will be low risk with possible high reward pick up

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[quote=skinster;810612]It's not the same thing. Backups don't have the experience as players that execute and actually get to play and see what works and what doesnt. Plus if healthy Jenkins can actually contribute to our team, and if not, he can provide leadership to our other NT's. But I do see your point. Although I don't think it is quite the same, you are mostly right with regards to backups being able to give info on other systems to haslett. But I don't think these players are being pursued purely for their knowledge of other systems, I think it is simply a bonus that adds to us wanting them.

I also think signing Barry Coefield could be a way to get info on the giants (as a plus...not that I don't think we don't want him)[/quote]

yeah, no I know what you mean. I was thinking of just recently a player named Howard Green. He was with the Jets and got some playing time there, and backed up the NT and DE's there. They cut him, he signed here, we cut him, and felt that Philip Daniels is more valuable (he's not). He then signed with the packers. He told the team what to watch out for with the jets defense, and helped green bay get a shut out 9-0 when over the jets in New York because of his help and signals. Fast Forward to the Super Bowl, and he was the reason why Big Ben threw the int for a touchdown because he knocked his arm on the throw. Just because he's a 'backup' doesn't mean he doesn't know as much as the starters, sometime the backups know more because their seeing the 'whole field' and are preparing for when the starter goes out to make sure they know what they're doing, and not looking like an idiot.

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I mean if we're forced to spend the ton of cap space we have, which players are we looking at to realistically get?

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Fingers crossed on getting Cullen Jenkins.

Yanda or Chester would be nice additions.

Cofield? Is he a small NT or a big DE? He might be a square peg in our system.

Holmes would be good if we are looking to add weed smokers to the locker room.

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[quote=skinster;810609][B]I just want to say that I am a logical person, and a fan of the tank for luck strategy.[/B] However, I am red in the face with excitement right now about all the free agents we are looking to pick up. The fan in me is overtaking what I know is in the best longterm interest of our team and is totally on board with buying every free agent mentioned. I wonder how long my excitement will last? I'll probably complain about how this was the dumbest thing we could possibly do at the end of the season (which it probably is) but I'm just so excited to see us (hopefully) signing all these guys. My emotions are taking over my better thinking.[/quote]

You must have a very interesting definition of logical.

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Why are we even talking about this? Why are we considering at all that this could possibly be true-ish

We're talking about Jason LIECanfora here. When is the last time he reported anything about the Washington Redskins that was anything close to the truth? When was the last time he reported ANYTHING on ANYTHING that was anything close to the truth, that wasn't already said by a much more reputable source?

The guy specializes in sensationalism. He specialized in it when he was here, and he has a stick up his butt about the Redskins ever since he left. There are a lot of guys who throw crap at the wall hoping it sticks, but Jason LIECanfora has a crap machine gun with unlimited ammo. This is the man who STILL insists that the Redskins are looking to sign JeMarcus Russell. Is he saying that because thinks we actually are going to sign him, or because he knows it'll make non-Redskins fans guffaw at our stupidity while it drives views to NFL.com to see his stupid articles?

Out of nowhere during the draft on the NFL Network during the draft, when they were talking about our draft class and John Beck, out of nowhere LIECanfora goes "You know, I heard that Marc Bulger was someone that they were interested in last year that they could sign!". Really, Jason? Because ya sure as hell didn't report that last year, nor did you have any inkling that McNabb was going to end up signing here.

The guy is a hack on the highest level. Here's a tip; if Jason LIECanfora claims we're going to do anything, be prepared for the football team to do the exact opposite. If he says we're not going to do something, it's probably the thing we're going to do.

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[quote=NLC1054;810631][B]Why are we even talking about this?[/B] Why are we considering at all that this could possibly be true-ish

We're talking about Jason LIECanfora here. When is the last time he reported anything about the Washington Redskins that was anything close to the truth? When was the last time he reported ANYTHING on ANYTHING that was anything close to the truth, that wasn't already said by a much more reputable source?

The guy specializes in sensationalism. He specialized in it when he was here, and he has a stick up his butt about the Redskins ever since he left. There are a lot of guys who throw crap at the wall hoping it sticks, but Jason LIECanfora has a crap machine gun with unlimited ammo. This is the man who STILL insists that the Redskins are looking to sign JeMarcus Russell. Is he saying that because thinks we actually are going to sign him, or because he knows it'll make non-Redskins fans guffaw at our stupidity while it drives views to NFL.com to see his stupid articles?

Out of nowhere during the draft on the NFL Network during the draft, when they were talking about our draft class and John Beck, out of nowhere LIECanfora goes "You know, I heard that Marc Bulger was someone that they were interested in last year that they could sign!". Really, Jason? Because ya sure as hell didn't report that last year, nor did you have any inkling that McNabb was going to end up signing here.

The guy is a hack on the highest level. Here's a tip; if Jason LIECanfora claims we're going to do anything, be prepared for the football team to do the exact opposite. If he says we're not going to do something, it's probably the thing we're going to do.[/quote]

Because there's still no CBA and not much else to talk about. Unless you'd rather talk about tanking for Luck.

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[quote=Mattyk;810635]Because there's still no CBA and not much else to talk about. Unless you'd [SIZE=4]rather talk about tanking for Luck[/SIZE].[/quote]
Saving it for my 6k post...........and 7k

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[quote=Mattyk;810635]Because there's still no CBA and not much else to talk about. Unless you'd rather talk about tanking for Luck.[/quote]

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...Carry on...

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assuming this report is true then to me it looks like the same old same old. go get other teams players and watch it blow up in your face. i can't tell you how sick i am of this approach cause it's proven that it doesn't work. how about letting some of the guys you drafted develop and turn into stars?

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[quote=skinsfan69;810638]assuming this report is true then to me it looks like the same old same old. go get other teams players and watch it blow up in your face. i can't tell you how sick i am of this approach cause it's proven that it doesn't work. how about letting some of the guys you drafted develop and turn into stars?[/quote]

With a salary floor they're going to have to spend, and possibly spend quite a bit.