Report: Rookie Wage Scale Agreed To
 

Starting a new thread with this news

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6768521/nfl-lockout-owners-players-agree-rookie-wage-scale-sources-say]NFL lockout -- Owners, players agree to rookie wage scale, sources say - ESPN[/url]

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yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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So Lockout is over soon

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what else is left to negotiate?

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Alrighty then....its time for free agent frenzy!

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[quote=skinster;810859]what else is left to negotiate?[/quote]

Specific language on the scale still needs to be sorted out, as with other things like pensions, health care

Still a lot of work to be done but it's not out of the realm of possibility that a handshake deal is done tomorrow.

Probably not until early next week more likely though

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[quote=SmootSmack;810866]Specific language on the scale still needs to be sorted out, as with other things like pensions, health care

Still a lot of work to be done but it's not out of the realm of possibility that a handshake deal is done tomorrow.

Probably not until early next week more likely though[/quote]
Is there any specifics on what the salary cap is going to be? or any specifics on the scale?

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No more $50 million guaranteed before playing a down.

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[quote=skinster;810870]Is there any specifics on what the salary cap is going to be? or any specifics on the scale?[/quote]

I don't know them

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Just get this shit done already!

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[quote=skinster;810859]what else is left to negotiate?[/quote]

Still have to negotiate things such as workman's compensation, extra right-of-first-refusals on this year's free agent class, settlement on the television damages and the antitrust lawsuit and issues relating to commercial sponsorships.

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[quote=Mattyk;810880]Just get this shit done already![/quote]

I've been saying we're close for a while because we have been. But tonight it truly feels closer than ever.

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[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkADj0TPrJA]‪Phil Collins - In The Air Tonight (Official Video)‬‏ - YouTube[/url]

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Great news! I'm dying for some REAL football stuff to talk about.

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[quote=SmootSmack;810883]I've been saying we're close for a while because we have been. But tonight it truly feels closer than ever.[/quote]

I sure hope so. I'm watching the "top 10 uniforms" on NFLN right now. I'm desperate for some real football news. :(

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Looks like they agreed to a salary cap as well:

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6768521/nfl-lockout-owners-players-moving-towards-cba-settlement-source-says]NFL lockout -- Owners, players moving towards CBA settlement, source says - ESPN[/url]

$120M, with a "guaranteed spend" clause that requires teams to spend a minimum of 90% of the cap each year.

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[quote=GMScud;810890]Looks like they agreed to a salary cap as well:

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6768521/nfl-lockout-owners-players-moving-towards-cba-settlement-source-says]NFL lockout -- Owners, players moving towards CBA settlement, source says - ESPN[/url]

$120M, with a "guaranteed spend" clause that requires teams to spend a minimum of 90% of the cap each year.[/quote]

Gas up the jet, it's gonna be a spending spree.

Get 'er done

[url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/14/stunning-momentum-puts-settlement-on-fast-track/[/url]

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Let's get this done

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Alright, FINALLY. I'm just SHOCKED that this deal got done just in time so no money is lost on the preseason games... but whatever. I'm so excited for football to be back, free agency is going to be insane across the league... can't wait to get going!

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120m doesnt seem like enough to do much of anything.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;810904]120m doesnt seem like enough to do much of anything.[/quote]

There's a difference in that cap spending must be cash. No more of dead money counting towards the cap. This adjusts the cap up in real terms.

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[quote=Lotus;810906]There's a difference in that cap spending must be cash. No more of dead money counting towards the cap. This adjusts the cap up in real terms.[/quote]

Wow then we have a ton to spend, since we've got like 30 million in dead cap already.

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And...Clayton had these exact numbers pegged three weeks ago. Glad the NFL pushed hard against a brick wall for two weeks.

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[quote=Lotus;810906]There's a difference in that cap spending must be cash. No more of dead money counting towards the cap. This adjusts the cap up in real terms.[/quote]I'd be shocked if dead money didn't coun't as cap room as that would pretty much kill players on non-guaranteed contracts. My guess is that the cash requirement is just separate from the cap requirement, which is to say: every team gets to be the 2006 Redskins now.

So sounds like we only have ten mil of cap space, but total value of (guaranteed?) contract dollars will have to ballpark $40 million. That will not be hard.

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Just read Claytons July 8 article you're probably referring to, along with tonight's article and neither give the impression that dead cap money is not included in the 120MM cap. I highly doubt any if the 7 teams clayton mentioned as being in trouble with a 120MM cap would be over if we took out "dead cap."

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I'm also enjoying the excitement over our impending spending spree: because we've been so great at that in the past.

Money is going to be flying around in a couple of weeks. The key may be to spend it without really spending it.

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Ya see, this is going to fuxxor our reputation even more even though we may genuinely need to sign a lot of FA's to fill our roster.

Grossman
McIntosh
Rogers
Moss
etc
etc

If they leave then we have to sign FA's or start scrubs.
Not much of a choice.

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We shouldn't be afraid of signing free agents...if were ever going to be good again not all the players will come through the draft. It's just about spending wisely. I'm all about putting money into the offensive line..I would like us to resign Moss OR we can make a play for HOlmes...with our young receivers and the fact that this is probably a rebuilding year I don't want to push guys like Armstrong down the depth chart if we can spend money elsewhere...

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;810912]Just read Claytons July 8 article you're probably referring to, along with tonight's article and neither give the impression that dead cap money is not included in the 120MM cap. I highly doubt any if the 7 teams clayton mentioned as being in trouble with a 120MM cap would be over if we took out "dead cap."[/quote]

Below is an article that mentions the cash requirement, although it seems to apply only to the 90% salary floor:
[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Jeff-Pash-Owners-have-offered-90percent-cash-guarantee.html]Jeff Pash said owners have offered 90-percent cash guarantee | National Football Post[/url]

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According to sources, the terms agreed to on the rookie wage system are, in part, as follows:

• Five-year contracts, with a team option for the fifth year.

• If the team option is exercised, in the fifth year the top 10 picks would receive a salary equal to the average of the top 10 player salaries at their respective positions. That money would be guaranteed if the option is exercised after the third year of the contract.

• If the team option is exercised, in the fifth year picks 11-32 would receive a salary equal to the average of the Nos. 3-25 salaries at their respective positions. That money would be guaranteed if the option is exercised after the third year of the contract.

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]^ So this doesnt really seem like a scale to me, mroe like a franchise type tag for rookies in year 5? Is all other guaranteed money now gone? Is there a actual scale that says how much each rookie is going to get based off where they were drafted, before they were drafted?[/FONT][/COLOR]

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I really hope they have an agreement in principle today, I think it'd be huge.

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That would be my faviort scenario.

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[quote=Lotus;810945]Below is an article that mentions the cash requirement, although it seems to apply only to the 90% salary floor:
[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Jeff-Pash-Owners-have-offered-90percent-cash-guarantee.html]Jeff Pash said owners have offered 90-percent cash guarantee | National Football Post[/url][/quote]

This could become problematic- a team could have so much in dead cap that it couldn't spend 90% in cash without going over the cap

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;810994]This could become problematic- a team could have so much in dead cap that it couldn't spend 90% in cash without going over the cap[/quote]

Yeah, I don't know how that would work out. We need details.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/15/report-economics-of-deal-are-essentially-done/]Report: Economics of deal are essentially done | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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Looks like there will be no workouts before May 1. Less money for the players but more free time

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Getting closer

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[quote=SmootSmack;811006]Looks like there will be no workouts before May 1. Less money for the players but more free time[/quote]

Good for the players. All the offseason work had gotten a little out of control.

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Whatever happened to the 18 game talk, is that shelved indefinitely?