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SmootSmack 08-03-2011 06:26 AM

Carlos Rogers Drops His Heart in San Francisco
 
Significantly less than he was looking for.

Instead of getting Nnamdi money, he's signed a one year deal with the Niners. Probably worth around $4 million.

Meks 08-03-2011 07:24 AM

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Kinda wish we could have kept him regardless of dropping picks, which started when he dropped that pick 6 in the playoffs in Seattle years ago... he was a good cover corner and I think the d will show his absence.

Longtimefan 08-03-2011 07:29 AM

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Carlos was probably surprised to find the market for his services was not what he thought it would be. One year deal....um

Jontrem 08-03-2011 07:44 AM

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I'm surprised that he could not get more than a one year deal. I know the drops are not a great thing for a CB to have but he is an above average cover corner.

#56fanatic 08-03-2011 07:52 AM

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I hope this brings him back down to earth. He thought he was an elite corner and thought he deserved to be paid like it. Fact remains, he is a good cover corner, aggressive tackler, but when it comes to elite you have to be a playmaker. He just wasn't a playmaker. I'd take him back in a second. I always thought he could cover anyone, wasn't really concerned about the picks, although it was frustrating.

CRedskinsRule 08-03-2011 08:10 AM

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A shame we couldn't keep him. I hope Josh Wilson is a capable replacement.

Jontrem 08-03-2011 08:11 AM

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Yeah especially for that price tag, one year 4 million. Wonder if he ust wanted out of here no matter what?

MTK 08-03-2011 08:12 AM

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Doubt we'll miss him much.

Meks 08-03-2011 08:13 AM

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^ not buying that

MTK 08-03-2011 08:14 AM

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If he was so valuable we could have kept him fairly easily. It was time for everyone to move on.

He's not as bad as his detractors say, but certainly not as good as his supporters think either.

Longtimefan 08-03-2011 08:19 AM

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quote: He's not as bad as his detractors say, but certainly not as good as his supporters think either.

Or as good as "he" thinks he is....

MTK 08-03-2011 08:22 AM

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Certainly not has good as he thinks. The market spoke, and he's in SF on a one year deal. Nuff said.

saden1 08-03-2011 08:31 AM

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Sad to lose him this way. Josh Wilson is not a capable replacement. It's going to be amusing to see teams go to work on him.

MTK 08-03-2011 08:43 AM

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Rogers to Wilson will be a fairly even trade off. Wilson has more speed and better ball skills but is small, Los is bigger and more physical, but doesn't make many plays.

Chico23231 08-03-2011 08:48 AM

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Damn Los, how big is that bruise on the ego?

freddyg12 08-03-2011 08:50 AM

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Sad to see. Smootsmack pointed out a couple months ago that his agent was the same one that Dockery had when he left. Both guys wanted to stay but had an agent that thought they could get big $. Dock did, Los not so much. He should be here, would've been better for both sides, but it sounds like bridges were burned & both sides had to move on.

He likely lost his last chance at a good deal several months back w/the Skins. Testing the market is always a risk.

SFREDSKIN 08-03-2011 08:53 AM

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Watch him have a pro bowl year with the niners, would not surprise me. I wish we would have kept him.

skinsfan69 08-03-2011 08:56 AM

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If Rogers caught a few more balls that were thrown his way he'd be making Hall money. His ego got put in check but I really don't think Wilson is any better. He got burned several times last year.

hooskins 08-03-2011 08:58 AM

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Everyone knows my position on this. Not happy to see him go, but it seemed like he really didn't want to be a Redskin. Regardless of how you feel about his skills, if his heart and mind are not fully committed to us it is best he moves on.

skinsfaninok 08-03-2011 09:00 AM

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IMO he was A bust for where he was picked

MTK 08-03-2011 09:02 AM

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[url=http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/04/15/secret-superstar-josh-wilson-baltimore-ravens/]Secret Superstar: Josh Wilson, Baltimore Ravens | ProFootballFocus.com[/url]

Lotus 08-03-2011 09:08 AM

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I'll miss Los and his coverage abilities. I won't miss his hands. Good luck Los and have some dungeness crab for me.

Longtimefan 08-03-2011 09:09 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;819156]Rogers to Wilson will be a fairly even trade off. Wilson has more speed and better ball skills but is small, Los is bigger and more physical, but doesn't make many plays.[/quote]

[url=http://www.nfl.com/player/carlosrogers/2506348/profile]Carlos Rogers, DB for the Washington Redskins at NFL.com[/url]

[url=http://www.nfl.com/player/joshwilson/2495783/profile]Josh Wilson, DB for the Washington Redskins at NFL.com[/url]

freddyg12 08-03-2011 09:10 AM

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I don't see him coming back a la Smoot in 07.

JoeRedskin 08-03-2011 09:15 AM

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Rodgers was a solid if unspectacular corner. Hopefully, Wilson makes the transition well and was not a product/beneficiary of the many other playmakers on the Ravens squad.

Regardless of his skills, and I think he was the best corner on the roster, I am glad he is gone - I get the feeling he was a mini-Haynesworth in some ways. Certainly seemed fairly divalicious at times and a bit of a pouter. I am pretty sure, just based on what he signed for and where, he just wanted to be outta here.

mlmdub130 08-03-2011 09:15 AM

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[quote=#56fanatic;819141]I hope this brings him back down to earth. He thought he was an elite corner and thought he deserved to be paid like it. Fact remains, he is a good cover corner, aggressive tackler, but when it comes to elite you have to be a playmaker. He just wasn't a playmaker. I'd take him back in a second. I always thought he could cover anyone, wasn't really concerned about the picks, although it was frustrating.[/quote]

perfectly said

JoeRedskin 08-03-2011 09:16 AM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;819161]Watch him have a pro bowl year with the niners, would not surprise me. I wish we would have kept him.[/quote]

It would shock me. He's not a pro bowl corner. Never was, never will be. We saw his ceiling and it was not a top 10 corner.

mlmdub130 08-03-2011 09:18 AM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;819172]Rodgers was a solid if unspectacular corner. Hopefully, Wilson makes the transition well and was not a product/beneficiary of the many other playmakers on the Ravens squad.

Regardless of his skills, and I think he was the best corner on the roster, I am glad he is gone - I get the feeling he was a mini-Haynesworth in some ways. Certainly seemed fairly divalicious at times and a bit of a pouter. [B]I am pretty sure, just based on what he signed for and where, he just wanted to be outta here[/B].[/quote]

didn't he bash the organization top to bottom right at the end of last season

Ruhskins 08-03-2011 09:19 AM

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Here's my take on Rogers. He's a very good coverage corner and he can help just about any team. While people probably get on him too much on the dropped picks, I think is because our has always been in desperate need of a playmaker. Yet, I think that if he was better at holding on to picks, he could probably have gotten the money that he wanted from the Redskins or any other team.

mlmpetert 08-03-2011 09:34 AM

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[quote=#56fanatic;819141]I hope this brings him back down to earth. He thought he was an elite corner and thought he deserved to be paid like it. Fact remains, he is a good cover corner, aggressive tackler, but when it comes to elite you have to be a playmaker. He just wasn't a playmaker. I'd take him back in a second. I always thought he could cover anyone, wasn't really concerned about the picks, although it was frustrating.[/quote]


The way i feel. I also think he was the best corner on the team and we are going to miss him. Wish we could of kept him

skinsfan69 08-03-2011 09:35 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;819179]Here's my take on Rogers. He's a very good coverage corner and he can help just about any team. While people probably get on him too much on the dropped picks, I think is because our has always been in[B] desperate need of a playmaker[/B]. Yet, I think that if he was better at holding on to picks, he could probably have gotten the money that he wanted from the Redskins or any other team.[/quote]

We have a playmaker now. He just can't cover and loses his jock trying to tackle Jake Delhomme. :)

mlmdub130 08-03-2011 09:40 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;819190]We have a playmaker now. He just can't cover and loses his jock trying to tackle Jake Delhomme. :)[/quote]

god that was bad, and i was so lucky that i got to see it in person

celts32 08-03-2011 09:42 AM

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[quote=Meks;819119]Kinda wish we could have kept him regardless of dropping picks, which started when he dropped that pick 6 in the playoffs in Seattle years ago... he was a good cover corner and I think the d will show his absence.[/quote]

I never got past that play. Can't look at him without thinking of it...

Ruhskins 08-03-2011 09:45 AM

Re: Carlos Rogers Drops His Heart in San Francisco
 
[quote=skinsfan69;819190]We have a playmaker now. He just can't cover and loses his jock trying to tackle Jake Delhomme. :)[/quote]

I am telling you, if we can combine Rogers and Hall we'd have the perfect CB. LOL.

dblanch66 08-03-2011 09:45 AM

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Blah.. So don't care about his departure. Team needs to wipe the stank off of the last few years and he was part of what created the smell in the first place. Niners D will blow this year.

mooby 08-03-2011 09:49 AM

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There isn't anything new I can add to this thread, so I'm just going to agree with everyone else. Sounds like he wanted out of here, I'dve been fine with him coming back, but if the best he can do is 1 year for 4 mil, then maybe he'll realize the market isn't what he thought it would be.

GMScud 08-03-2011 09:57 AM

Re: Carlos Rogers Drops His Heart in San Francisco
 
[quote=SmootSmack;819116]Significantly less than he was looking for.

Instead of getting Nnamdi money, he's signed a one year deal with the Niners. Probably worth around $4 million.[/quote]

For that kind of deal I wish we would have kept him.

Still, he had some serious delusions of grandeur. He thought he was going to command top flight money, and instead couldn't even muster a multi-year deal. Memo to Carlos- teams don't throw money at cornerbacks with no hands.

GMScud 08-03-2011 10:01 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;819156]Rogers to Wilson will be a fairly even trade off. Wilson has more speed and better ball skills but is small, Los is bigger and more physical, but doesn't make many plays.[/quote]

I agree as far as the skill set comparison, but Wilson is 4 years younger, so I'd say it leans in our favor.

MTK 08-03-2011 10:03 AM

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[quote=GMScud;819209]I agree as far as the skill set comparison, but Wilson is 4 years younger, so I'd say it leans in our favor.[/quote]

Word. Plus Wilson seems to be on the upswing, while Rogers has been consistently inconsistent for all these years.

mlmdub130 08-03-2011 10:07 AM

Re: Carlos Rogers Drops His Heart in San Francisco
 
[quote=GMScud;819208]For that kind of deal I wish we would have kept him.

Still, he had some serious delusions of grandeur. He thought he was going to command top flight money, and instead couldn't even muster a multi-year deal. Memo to Carlos- teams don't throw money at cornerbacks with no hands.[/quote]

we'll to be fair what was he supposed to think, after all he has been a skin since being drafted


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