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SmootSmack 09-06-2011 04:10 PM

How Many Regular Season Games Will Rex Grossman Start
 
I'll say he starts 13 games, finishes 12.

JoeRedskin 09-06-2011 04:13 PM

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I think he makes it the season. He'll have three catastrophic games - but not in a row - and Shanahan will simply keep plugging him in.

Beck only plays (starts) if we have a losing record by midseason and 3 of the losses are directly attributable to Rexy. If Rex makes it to midseason, I think he is in for the long haul.

Bucket 09-06-2011 04:17 PM

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Beck only starts barring a Rex Grossman injury. I think Rex is going to play solid this year with the talent around him. I as re-watching last year games and preseason this year, and he has a hard on for S. Moss. He always knows where Moss is at and they have a connection.

S. Moss might have a pro bowl year

Lotus 09-06-2011 04:39 PM

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Wrecks makes it through most of the season until Shanny just can't take it any more. Beck starts in December.

MTK 09-06-2011 04:46 PM

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Barring injury Rex is the guy for this season.

I could see Beck playing if the team is tanking, but that's it.

Rex will stay solid enough to hold the job.

mooby 09-06-2011 05:01 PM

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I put my vote for 11-16, but I think it'll be closer to 11 than it will be to 16. I think he'll play 3 quarters of the season, and then if we drop out of playoff contention Shanny will see what Beck has. And in the event we stay in playoff contention the whole season with Rex at quarterback, then the games he'll miss will be because of injury (Somewhere between 1-3).

skinsfaninok 09-06-2011 05:08 PM

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I think Beck leads this team into a WC game due to Rex being benched in early Dec

irish 09-06-2011 05:18 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;831516]Barring injury Rex is the guy for this season.

I could see Beck playing if the team is tanking, but that's it.

Rex will stay solid enough to hold the job.[/quote]

I agree. Shanny didnt name Rex starter to pull him after week 3 because it would make Shanny look like he made a mistake picking Rex and Shanny doesnt want that. Rex will have to tank really bad to be pulled.

KI Skins Fan 09-06-2011 05:20 PM

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I don't know.

12thMan 09-06-2011 05:20 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;831495]I think he makes it the season. He'll have three catastrophic games - but not in a row - and Shanahan will simply keep plugging him in.

Beck only plays (starts) if we have a losing record by midseason and 3 of the losses are directly attributable to Rexy. If Rex makes it to midseason, I think he is in for the long haul.[/quote]

I completely agree here. I don't think Rex' leash is as short as everyone thinks it is. I think he has a good 5-8 window to bench himself.

VegasSkinsFan 09-06-2011 05:30 PM

I think he goes the season. We should be pushing for a playoff spot even with a difficult last 5 games. Jets, pats, giants, Vikings, and eagles.

NYCskinfan82 09-06-2011 05:43 PM

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RG aka the "R"ight "G"uy plays the whole season (supporting who our FO picked to be QB).

Chico23231 09-06-2011 08:36 PM

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I think alot of people not counting on the fact that Rex can bench himself pretty easily. if we go into the early break playing poorly on offense, I bet Shanny and Kyle revisit the idea of Beck starting after the bye.

vallin21 09-06-2011 09:09 PM

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11 games

Longtimefan 09-06-2011 09:16 PM

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I'm hoping he stays healthy and starts all sixteen. The only way he won't is.....injury or poor performance that forces the coaches hand. Shanahan has made his decision now he must stick by it.

SkinzWin 09-06-2011 09:20 PM

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19 games. Book it now.

edit: BOOM goes the dynamite!

GMScud 09-06-2011 09:26 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;831516]Barring injury Rex is the guy for this season.

I could see Beck playing if the team is tanking, but that's it.

Rex will stay solid enough to hold the job.[/quote]

I tend to agree. I think the whole John Beck thing is pretty silly. The Shanny's endorse him as a player (but never said he was a starter), then Beck starts talking to the media like he's the guy, and at the end of the day, Grossman beats him out like we all should have expected.

If Rex stays healthy (which could be hampered by our average at best O-line and lack of O-line depth), he'll start all year.

You know what could happen though- it could be a repeat of 2010 with Rex in the McNabb role, albeit with less controversy. Rex's play is up and down, we're out of the playoffs, and Beck gets a 3 or 4 game test drive to see what we have...

MTK 09-06-2011 09:30 PM

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[quote=GMScud;831677]I tend to agree. I think the whole John Beck thing is pretty silly. The Shanny's endorse him as a player (but never said he was a starter), then Beck starts talking to the media like he's the guy, and at the end of the day, Grossman beats him out like we all should have expected.

If Rex stays healthy (which could be hampered by our average at best O-line and lack of O-line depth), he'll start all year.

You know what could happen though- it could be a repeat of 2010 with Rex in the McNabb role, albeit with less controversy. Rex's play is up and down, we're out of the playoffs, and Beck gets a 3 or 4 game test drive to see what we have...[/quote]

I think they legitimately believe in Beck, perhaps with a full offseason things would have been different.

BigHairedAristocrat 09-06-2011 09:55 PM

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I think he'll start every game he's healthy until a long term replacement we draft is ready to take over

GTripp0012 09-06-2011 09:59 PM

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I'm playing the percentages and saying 1-5. I have no idea what is going to happen at the QB position, but when you balance the risk of injury with John Beck lurking, there's too much that can go wrong.

By far the best chance of a burgundy and goal postseason is that Rex hits the ground with a 3 TD day against New York and holds the job most of the season starting 13+ games and relegating Beck to second team and spot start duty all year. This is a best case outcome: Rex plays well and Rex plays often.

But too much can go wrong that results in Rex starting 5 or fewer games. The QB debate isn't over, even though I just don't see anyway I'm sitting at the end of the year wondering why I never believed in John Beck.

NLC1054 09-06-2011 10:07 PM

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Rex starts 16 games unless he gets hurt. Even if Bad Rex shows up a few times during the season, Grossman will be consistent enough that Mike won't feel the need to bench him the way he did McNabb.

That Guy 09-06-2011 10:17 PM

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11+ unless theres a major injury or terrible QB play, he's in. both guys are seat warmers for the starting QB we just don't have yet though.

The Goat 09-06-2011 11:43 PM

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Considering Shanny benched a franchise, Pro Bowl caliber QB w/o much hesitation my intuition is Rex doesn't have much of a leash either. I think if he sucks it up in two of the six early games Beck will get a shot. Worst case scenario is the starter changes more than once during the season, which I could see happening given Shanny's ego and penchant for throwing curve balls at his players.

Honestly I don't see much connection between Mike and either QB. Don't forget Mike has never developed a QB. Elway was already, well...Elway. Cutler plays at about the same level regardless of coach or team. We're sitting on a guy in Beck who needs a coach like Peyton to mentor him. Rex needs...I have no idea what he needs lol.

I hope we can run the ball all season!!!!

Ruhskins 09-07-2011 01:26 AM

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[quote=The Goat;831713]Considering Shanny benched a franchise, Pro Bowl caliber QB w/o much hesitation my intuition is Rex doesn't have much of a leash either. I think if he sucks it up in two of the six early games Beck will get a shot. Worst case scenario is the starter changes more than once during the season, which I could see happening given Shanny's ego and penchant for throwing curve balls at his players.

Honestly I don't see much connection between Mike and either QB. Don't forget Mike has never developed a QB. Elway was already, well...Elway. Cutler plays at about the same level regardless of coach or team. We're sitting on a guy in Beck who needs a coach like Peyton to mentor him. [B]Rex needs...I have no idea what he needs[/B] lol.

I hope we can run the ball all season!!!![/quote]

Rex needs protection period I'm sure Beck would need it too, but I think a good o-line will result in good Rex showing up.

SirClintonPortis 09-07-2011 03:13 AM

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Twelve.

Meks 09-07-2011 06:06 AM

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I hope 16+

polywog 09-07-2011 07:01 AM

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I say 19~ :headbange

natesurfn 09-07-2011 07:09 AM

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I would hope that if Rex starts throwing a bad game Kyle will change up the play calling to relieve some of the pressure with runs, screens and short dump offs. I know we'll see some INT's no matter what but Rex has been around long enough no to get too frazzled.

diehard 09-07-2011 08:52 AM

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Is the real question, "How many games will the OL will allow Grossman to start before he's hurt?".

mooby 09-07-2011 09:36 AM

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[quote=That Guy;831687]11+ unless theres a major injury or terrible QB play, he's in. both guys are seat warmers for the starting QB we just don't have yet though.[/quote]

This. I think next year's qb of the future is currently residing on an NCAA roster somewhere.

Lotus 09-07-2011 09:42 AM

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[quote=mooby;831833]This. I think next year's qb of the future is currently residing on an NCAA roster somewhere.[/quote]

Matt Barkley anyone? :)

mooby 09-07-2011 09:43 AM

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[quote=Lotus;831835]Matt Barkley anyone? :)[/quote]

Anyone opposed? Beats the hell out of Rex and Beck.

Chico23231 09-07-2011 09:46 AM

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I think the Keim article with the scout's (Razzano) opinion sums up my feelings on the Rex situation. I think Rex gives us the best chance to win now, but we know his ceiling. We dont know Becks ceiling, was hoping to find that out and I think we still will.

Jontrem 09-07-2011 10:02 AM

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I put in 11-16 and think it will be close to the full 16. I think if by game 10 we have a horrible record (something like 2-8, 3-7) we make a change just so we can see what we have in Beck, but as I think we will be closer to 5-5 or maybe better I think Rex will be the Qb for the entire year.

CRedskinsRule 09-07-2011 10:02 AM

Re: How Many Regular Season Games Will Rex Grossman Start
 
wish the thread title had been:

How many chucks will RG chuck, if RG could chuck chucks!!

I said 11-16, don't see him pulled unless or until playoffs are out of the question.

saden1 09-07-2011 10:24 AM

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Grossman is on a short leash...if he stinks the first two games he will be pulled. I dont think he will cause the running game will be killing it.

mooby 09-07-2011 10:27 AM

Re: How Many Regular Season Games Will Rex Grossman Start
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;831843]wish the thread title had been:

How many chucks will RG chuck, if RG could chuck chucks!!

I said 11-16, don't see him pulled unless or until playoffs are out of the question.[/quote]

I don't know how often Rex will say f' it and just chuck it, but I get the feeling he's going to come out against the Giants and audible to a deep pass on the first play from scrimmage just so he can go deep.

freddyg12 09-07-2011 01:12 PM

Re: How Many Regular Season Games Will Rex Grossman Start
 
See Griese v. Plummer in Denver. Shanny went back & forth w/them for a while. He's not hesitant to bench anyone, that's part of his coaching MO. I Rex will start most (2/3) but he will get benched.

Unless he really has no confidence in Beck, Shanny will bench Rex as soon after he feels things aren't working. We saw w/McNabb last year that he will bench a qb & deal w/a lot of questions. I don't see nearly as much scrutiny coming to such a decision w/Grossman. I see him being benched a few times this year w/the caveat that in at least 1 case the game will be near over.

NYCSkin 09-07-2011 03:06 PM

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Let's start with the assumption that Rex plays a full season...

--History of injuries (minus 4 games)
--History of inconsistent play (minus 3 games)
--Increased risk of injury, age-related (minus 2 games)
--Increased risk of benching due to capable backup (minus 2 games)
--Increased risk of benching due to coach with history of benching QBs quickly (minus 2 games)
--Increased risk of benching due to Skins' being out of playoff contention (minus 2 games)

So I'll say 1-5 games for Rex...

doughtydoubter 09-07-2011 03:22 PM

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I dont know why all the hate for rex. HE is a superbowl Qb.

If colt was pineapple jesus
beck is the stormin' mormon

I move we call Grossman - The dragon


and yes im drunk


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