Teen still being bullied after suicide
 

[url=http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44684938/ns/today-today_people/t/gay-teens-parents-bullying-continued-after-his-suicide?GT1=43001]Teen’s parents: After suicide, he’s still being bullied - TODAY People - TODAY.com[/url]

:doh: Dude committed suicide and kids are still ragging on his memory? Some of these kids need serious help. I'd say they'd be deserving of a beatdown but we all know violence doesn't solve anything.

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I just cant understand people,I dont see how anyone can be that cruel

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[quote=mooby;841554][url=http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44684938/ns/today-today_people/t/gay-teens-parents-bullying-continued-after-his-suicide?GT1=43001]Teen’s parents: After suicide, he’s still being bullied - TODAY People - TODAY.com[/url]

:doh: Dude committed suicide and kids are still ragging on his memory? Some of these kids need serious help[B]. I'd say they'd be deserving of a beatdown but we all know violence doesn't solve anything.[/B][/quote]

Besides Mental torture is so much more effective. :D Problem is a lot of times it's hard to truly f with someones mind to the point of satisfaction. You have to either be a sociopath or extremely clever.

There is good news is though. They have the slurs in writing. They also have a major pop star with millions of dollars who is pissed off. I wouldn't be surprised if her fans found out who the kids were and started harrasing them online (Go to any LGaga YouTube video and you'll see how crazy and loyal her fans are).

[url=http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/09/teen-who-made-an-it-gets-better-video-about-being-gay-commits-suicide/1]Lady Gaga calls for action after teen's suicide[/url]

Either way the families of these bullies are going to be sued hard. Like no more college fund hard.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;841597]Besides Mental torture is so much more effective. :D Problem is a lot of times it's hard to truly f with someones mind to the point of satisfaction. You have to either be a sociopath or extremely clever.

There is good news is though. They have the slurs in writing. They also have a major pop star with millions of dollars who is pissed off. I wouldn't be surprised if her fans found out who the kids were and started harrasing them online (Go to any LGaga YouTube video and you'll see how crazy and loyal her fans are).

[url=http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/09/teen-who-made-an-it-gets-better-video-about-being-gay-commits-suicide/1]Lady Gaga calls for action after teen's suicide[/url]

Either way the families of these bullies are going to be sued hard. Like no more college fund hard.[/quote]

I'd love to see the legal side take due course and punish the kids who were doing this, but nothing's guaranteed. With that said, they do have evidence on their side. But evidence of what exactly? Are they going to punish some teens for bullying/harassment after the kid already died? I'm not a lawyer by any stretch but that doesn't sound feasible.

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[quote=mooby;841630]I'd love to see the legal side take due course and punish the kids who were doing this, but nothing's guaranteed. With that said, they do have evidence on their side. But evidence of what exactly? Are they going to punish some teens for bullying/harassment after the kid already died? I'm not a lawyer by any stretch but that doesn't sound feasible.[/quote]

Well keep in mind these kids aren't master criminals. Pretty much everyone at the school knows who they are, and it won't be to hard to round up witnesses, starting with his friends (they did these chants in full view at a school dance). Also I'm not totally sure but it's possible some of the more vulgar messages were posted on Facebook, others were posted on a blog where people can remain anonymous but even then IP addresses can be dug up and subpoenaed. It wouldn't be to hard for someone with the resources to find out not only who they are but what they said.

The criminal part is minimal. Harassment is likely the only thing they'll be charged with and thats community service. The part that will keep them up at night and turn the tables will be a civil suit hanging over their heads. Their home lives will become hell, and ironically they'll get an idea of what they put that other kid through.

The other part that sucks for them though is a pissed off millionaire (Lady Gaga) with virtually unlimited resources making this case her latest causes. If I read the article correctly she even met with the president to discuss this.

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Tragic.

And I'm not saying that what I'm about to bring up is the same. But on this board, and on other similar sites a lot of people like to mock Tony Romo by calling him Tony Homo. For one thing because they think it's funny since Homo rhymes with Romo. But also, because it implies that he's an effeminate, homosexual who isn't "man enough" to play football. Yet I doubt any of who throw the phrase around consider that a) some of the NFL's best players (past and present) are gay or that b) when you slander his name like that you may not realize that a fellow Redskins fan is on this board reading that and feeling a bit hurt maybe because they are actually gay.

Anyhow, like I said it's not the same as what's happened in Buffalo. And I'm sure many of you who call Tony Romo Tony Homo don't think of it as a gay slur. But I thought I'd just put that out there.

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It's often a cruel world we live in. There's no rational explanation for behavior like this.

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Yeah, people use gay as a synonym for stupid but it is pretty offensive. I use to use it quite a bit in high school but have since changed that. Sometimes it slips but it is definitely wrong and something i strive not to do.

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[quote=SmootSmack;842233]Tragic.

And I'm not saying that what I'm about to bring up is the same. But on this board, and on other similar sites a lot of people like to mock Tony Romo by calling him Tony Homo. For one thing because they think it's funny since Homo rhymes with Romo. But also, because it implies that he's an effeminate, homosexual who isn't "man enough" to play football. Yet I doubt any of who throw the phrase around consider that a) some of the NFL's best players (past and present) are gay or that b) when you slander his name like that you may not realize that a fellow Redskins fan is on this board reading that and feeling a bit hurt maybe because they are actually gay.

Anyhow, like I said it's not the same as what's happened in Buffalo. And I'm sure many of you who call Tony Romo Tony Homo don't think of it as a gay slur. But I thought I'd just put that out there.[/quote]

Funny as a moderator on this board you took the time to "slap the hand" of folks who use Homo instead of Romo but yet let folks use terms such as "butt pirate" (which IMO is the same as calling a African American a "N") go unpunished.

I am not speaking directly to you SS but the moderation board as a whole on here. I still have a bitter taste in my mouth about the below postings and was appalled no real action was taken. I always thought something like this would not have been stood for on this web site.


[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/parking-lot/8823-super-happy-fun-thread-241.html[/URL]

Most notably post number 3612 on that page.

You guys as moderators had a opportunity to stop a bully or bully like actions but you choose to turn a blind eye to it. Just like maybe one of Jamey's teachers did in school when he was being called names or bullied because of his sexuality, maybe if a teacher had step in Jamey still be here.

I am real not trying to be a dick to you guys but I am still very bitter about those posts and the actions or non-actions that were taken afterwards.

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[quote=mredskins;842247]Funny as a moderator on this board you took the time to "slap the hand" of folks who use Homo instead of Romo but yet let folks use terms such as "butt pirate" (which IMO is the same as calling a African American a "N") go unpunished.

I am not speaking directly to you SS but the moderation board as a whole on here. I still have a bitter taste in my mouth about the below postings and was applauded no real action was taken. I always thought something like this would not have been stood for on this web site.


[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/parking-lot/8823-super-happy-fun-thread-241.html[/url]

Most notably post number 3612 on that page.

You guys as moderators had a opportunity to stop a bully or bully like actions but you choose to turn a blind eye to it. Just like maybe one of Jamey's teachers did in school when he was being called names or bullied because of his sexuality, maybe if a teacher had step in Jamey still be here.

I am real not trying to be a dick to you guys but I am still very bitter about those posts and the actions or non-actions that were taken afterwards.[/quote]

1. I think any of those slurs are wrong, was just using that one as an example. Maybe there should be enforcement against using Tony Homo. I've never thought about that before. I just find it kind of juvenile
2. I think the SHFT has "jumped the shark" if you will and I tend at most to just skim through it every other week or so
3. Sorry you felt bitter, but don't go SBF on us and think we turned a blind eye to it. Maybe we just missed it. Maybe one of the other mods spoke to AW (I don't know)
4. If you felt offended you should reach out to us. There is an option to report a post and you should PM us. We've said that time and again

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[quote=SmootSmack;842251]1. I think any of those slurs are wrong, was just using that one as an example. Maybe there should be enforcement against using Tony Homo. I've never thought about that before. I just find it kind of juvenile
2. I think the SHFT has "jumped the shark" if you will and I tend at most to just skim through it every other week or so
3. Sorry you felt bitter, but don't go SBF on us and think we turned a blind eye to it. Maybe we just missed it. Maybe one of the other mods spoke to AW (I don't know)
4. If you felt offended you should reach out to us. There is an option to report a post and you should PM us. We've said that time and again[/quote]

No worries, I am off my soap box. After reading back through Matty did say enough is enough. I just felt more could have been done and that is just my opinion, in the end you guys are judge, jury and executioner on here.

Little old me is just going to go back to my BBQ pit and sulk.

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Mredskins, just a heads up but you should change "applauded" to "appalled" in that post above, because even though they are spelled slightly similar, they are two different things. Just thought I'd let you know.

SS, the whole nicknames thing in the NFL is so lame. Deadskins, Foreskins, Cowgirls, Sheagles, Gints (and even midgets), Tony Homo, etc. is so lame. It's like going out of your way to try and insult them, and the insult is mediocre at best. I used to follow that line of thinking, and probably still do on occasion, but every time I think about it the more I realize how lame and unoriginal they are.

Also, I completely agree that the SHFT has reached its' expiration date. I still see funny stuff in there occasionally, but it's few and far between. Just put it out of its' misery.

As far as gay and butt pirate goes, I follow along the lines of hooskins. I've used both a lot in the past (although I've never used butt pirate to explicitly refer to a gay person like AW did), and to this day I still let it slip, but I'm in the process of trying to eliminate it from my vocabulary. I've always used gay to identify something I don't necessarily identify with, but I don't use it as a hurtful term, and lately I feel it's being overused so much by the male population that now I prefer to use more original terms.

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Well I did say something...

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/823825-post3615.html[/URL]

We try to babysit the best we can here.

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Thanks Mooby.

Yes Matty you did and I acknowledge it in my response to SS.

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Ahhh so who's go the blind eye?

;)

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[quote=Mattyk;842270]Ahhh so who's go the blind eye?

;)[/quote]


I just felt a little more needed to be done but again I am not the law maker here.

To me if this was my site that is a ban-able offense.

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Don't assume things aren't dealt with behind the scenes.

And don't you ever notice how some people just disappear?

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[quote=Mattyk;842275]Don't assume things aren't dealt with behind the scenes.

And don't you ever notice how some people just disappear?[/quote]


I hear you.That one sequence of posts just had really left a bitter taste in my mouth. Plus in my mind there was some build up to it as well. I just felt at the time gay slurs were being thrown around a bit to much on this board or if you you will taken to casually. That sequence of post was the straw that broke the camels back to me.

Ok enough said on my part. Great site, great posters and great moderators. At times we will never see eye to eye but I would honestly buy anyone on this board a beer if I meet you in person. I truley enjoy everyone on here.

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In the future just shoot one of us a message if something is bothering you.

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[quote=SmootSmack;842233]And I'm sure many of you who call Tony Romo Tony Homo don't think of it as a gay slur. But I thought I'd just put that out there.[/quote]

I'm guilty of this as well. Of course I don't really think he is gay, and even if he was it wouldn't matter anyways. It's just in the heat of a rant, especially about the Cowboys QB, it's hard to always be politically correct. And it doesn't help that his real name makes the nickname just "too easy".

That being said, I will make an effort to stop using the term, as it is pretty juvenile.

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[quote=SmootSmack;842233]Tragic.

And I'm not saying that what I'm about to bring up is the same. But on this board, and on other similar sites a lot of people like to mock Tony Romo by calling him Tony Homo. For one thing because they think it's funny since Homo rhymes with Romo. But also, because it implies that he's an effeminate, homosexual who isn't "man enough" to play football. Yet I doubt any of who throw the phrase around consider that [B]a) some of the NFL's best players (past and present) are gay or that [/B]b) when you slander his name like that you may not realize that a fellow Redskins fan is on this board reading that and feeling a bit hurt maybe because they are actually gay.

Anyhow, like I said it's not the same as what's happened in Buffalo. And I'm sure many of you who call Tony Romo Tony Homo don't think of it as a gay slur. But I thought I'd just put that out there.[/quote]

Really who? I can't remember any NFL players coming out. Not that it matters.

This article says that none have come out.

[url=http://www.businessinsider.com/new-nfl-cba-protects-openly-gay-players-2011-9]NFL: New NFL CBA Protects Openly Gay Players[/url]

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There are several from the past that have come out (including former Skins great Jerry Smith). Just b/c they have not come out doesn't mean they aren't there:
[url=http://www.outsports.com/nfl/2003/1002bloodysundays.htm]Closeted Gay NFL Player Tells His Story -- Outsports.com[/url]

It's just a matter of time before an active player comes out.

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No active players have come out, but they exist. And there are former players who are as well, including a few who have come out. Among them former TE Jerry Smith a member of the "70 Greatest Redskins" team

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[quote=SmootSmack;842298]No active players have come out, but they exist. And there are former players who are as well, including a few who have come out. Among them former TE Jerry Smith a member of the "70 Greatest Redskins" team[/quote]

I know and actually reall y don't care if they are or are not gay. I just could not remember any coming out while still playing football.

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[url=http://www.outsports.com/nfl/20021027eseramain.htm]Esera Tuaolo, Former NFL Player, Comes Out as Gay[/url]

Esera Tuaolo is the only name I remember, even though he was before my time. I read an article about him coming out a couple years ago. But it'd be pretty naive to think gay people don't play sports. I'm sure they play in the league today. But I do feel bad for them, having to keep it under wraps for fear their career could be over.

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Sadly its not just the players in the NFL that have to hide the fact they are gay for fear of reprisal, many coaches, owners and even cheerleaders may also be fearful to come out. Several years ago 2 female cheerleaders were caught having sex with each other and ended up getting fired for violating a “rule that bans conduct that's embarrassing to the team or organization”.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2216124]Two Panthers cheerleaders dismissed - NFL - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=mlmpetert;842335]Sadly its not just the players in the NFL that have to hide the fact they are gay for fear of reprisal, many coaches, owners and even cheerleaders may also be fearful to come out. Several years ago 2 female cheerleaders were caught having sex with each other and ended up getting fired for violating a “rule that bans conduct that's embarrassing to the team or organization”.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2216124]Two Panthers cheerleaders dismissed - NFL - ESPN[/url][/quote]

thats pretty hot

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[quote=Chico23231;842336]thats pretty hot[/quote]


Real hot

[QUOTE=Chico23231;842336]thats pretty hot[/QUOTE]

:laughing- is it sexist that I feel the same way? I remember hearing about that and thinking, alright that's pretty cool. Heterosexualism ftw!