Crazy Cannuck!
 

Could the Redskins work out a deal in the offseason for a WR the magnitute of Plaxico Burress if we decided to go that route? Is it feasable at all if we get a few restructures? (Samuels, Wynn, hopefully Brunell but Im not holding my breath.) I'm looking for a quiet offseason. Resign, Restructure, and a few FAs. I feel Plax kinda falls into that young and hasn't reached his full potential yet category and could be a great pickup! Coles is also a Hines Wardish type player, so I feel he'd fit right in!

Don't Plaxico Burress whiney bitch ass. Plus, he isn't even that good.

I agree with you Daseal we need a quited offseason. First of all were not gonna get Plexico cause we will be outbid my other teams who aren't 20 million over the cap in 2006. People seem to forget this fact. I think we need to resign our kep players Smoot, Pierce, Samuels. Try to trade Gardner, and then for the love of god have a solid draft (that includes players outside the first round).

Right now the Skins are talking and working on Samuels to a new multi-year extension which will limit the cap hit. I heard that is at the for front of the front office right now. So thats a start.

[QUOTE=saden1]Don't Plaxico Burress whiney bitch ass. Plus, he isn't even that good.[/QUOTE]


Saden, who would rather have on your roster right now? Rod Gardner or Plaxico Burress?

If you're smart you'd rather have Plaxico. Right?

plaxico is a huge reciever, who can go up and get the jump balls. he is 6-5, same height as mike williams, and is much faster than williams. he is only 26 or 27, so i think it would be a good pick up if we could get him

I totally agree with you on this one, I truly believe that if we had him he would be the difference in our offense. For one he commands attention from the defense, two he is huge and can run J. Gibbs routes and does not have a problem catching the damn ball! I also agree with this simply because he is young and on the rise. If we get if via trade/free agency then i would suggest we pick up Antrell Rolle (Miami CB) to replace smoot. Not only would this kid be a superb addition to our team, we wouldnt have to worry about hime being shell-shocked at the pace of an NFL game. I mean playing at Miami prepares you for the league.

The more I hear about the subject the more I think the Redskins should explore trying to sign Plexico Burress. Even though we have a high draft pick, Mike Williams is the only one I would feel real comfortable taking.

The whole Braylan Edwards diagnosis is a little too Gardener-esque for my taste. I don't want to say trade down for Williams, but I feel that if we don't pick up a good WR in free agency that Williams may be one of the best, if not the best, pick up in the draft at WR.

I was gonna say they can't do it, but considering the types of contracts they usually do, even with a big contract, his cap number the first couple years wouldn't be too bad. So I say go for it! Yeah, they'll have to make some tough decisions on some players in a couple years, but that's gonna happen anyway. If Gibbs creates the winning atmosphere that most if not all of us think he will, that will make players think twice about leaving just for a higher paycheck. Just look at the Patriots and how most of the players want to stay, even if they could make a little more elsewhere.

[QUOTE=SkinsRock]I was gonna say they can't do it, but considering the types of contracts they usually do, even with a big contract, his cap number the first couple years wouldn't be too bad. So I say go for it! Yeah, they'll have to make some tough decisions on some players in a couple years, but that's gonna happen anyway. If Gibbs creates the winning atmosphere that most if not all of us think he will, that will make players think twice about leaving just for a higher paycheck. Just look at the Patriots and how most of the players want to stay, even if they could make a little more elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

Very true. Tom Brady is a perfect example.

In all honesty, Burress himself is a bit Gardner-esque...he is soo inconsistent and tends to disappear for long stretches, even games at a time...in addition he is injury-prone and a subpar teammate...let someone like the cowboys take a chance on his talent with a big paycheck...muhsin muhammad is the guy i want to become available, although i doubt the skins have the $ to pay him either...if someone has an idea on how much muhammad might cost if the panthers get rid of him, please let me know

Muhammad is pretty old and he will most likely demand top-tier money...I would think much more than Burress, especially after how Muhammed has stepped up this season.

Mushin Muhammad is 40 what now? He had one standout year, don't pay him yet.

I have faith that the Redskins FO will get rid of the cap like they do every year. I think we're going to see a bunch of money open up when we have a few restructures. We'll have the money to pursue 1-2 good FAs.

In my opinion our team has very few needs, DE, C, Blocking TE, WR. I'm assuming we resign pierce, smoot, etc in this. Now, I think we should go after either the WR/C or DE/C in free agency if possible. Then with our picks get either DE/WR and a blocking TE late. Look at contracts, see who's likely going to be headed out, and start grooming their replacement now.

[QUOTE=e16bball]In all honesty, Burress himself is a bit Gardner-esque...he is soo inconsistent and tends to disappear for long stretches, even games at a time...in addition he is injury-prone and a subpar teammate...let someone like the cowboys take a chance on his talent with a big paycheck...muhsin muhammad is the guy i want to become available, although i doubt the skins have the $ to pay him either...if someone has an idea on how much muhammad might cost if the panthers get rid of him, please let me know[/QUOTE]

I agree that Burress is a little Gardner-like with his inconsistency, but you can't deny he's the playmaker that Gardner can only dream of being. Burress averaged 19.9 yards per catch this year and was developing nicely with Roethelisberger before he got hurt.

His career yards per catch is 16.0 compared to 13.2 for Rod.

The more I think about it the more I think Burress would be a great pickup for us. The guy is a huge target and he can get down the field.

Mohammed is looking for big bucks, plus he's a little long in the tooth.

Like someone else mentioned, the cap hits of a new contract are usually quite low in the first few years, so we probably could afford to bring in Plax (or someone else).

Personally I like Plax, but I'm hesitant to go after WRs. I still like the bunch we have and I think linemen will come in more handy in Gibbs' offense.

Of course if Coach wants the Plax - then so do I.

I want the Plax and be able to use our draft pick on a beast DE and maybe select another great center later in the draft... I guess that would be my ideal off-season situation.

Question for the guys here: First off, I agree with DaSeal about the holes we need to fill at DE and C. I see the blocking TE as being more of an afterthought though and not a pressing matter to address. Let's say that we sign Muhammed or Burress and give Gardner his walking papers, does that mean you're willing to let Jacobs and Thrash play the same or less of a role?

Personally I'd like to see Jacobs as our 3rd WR. I hope to see many more 3-4 WR sets this year. I feel our WRs are fairly solid all the way through, not as good as I thought they'd be this year, but we have a pretty deep bench. I say we rotate em in and wear the hell outta those DBs!

The blocking TE is a good pick for later in the draft. It's more of an extention of the offensive line than anything. Toss the guy a ball or two a game to keep the defense honest.

plaxico...
 

sorry, but i do not see it happening. first of all, he will cost a mint to sign. secondly he reminds me more of boston than TO and i would be leery of paying tremendous contracts for a guy who has really not put up that huge numbers. at least TO was productive his entire career before coming to philly.
if he is that important to pitts they will franchise tag him. if they do not, it should tell us something--- that they do not believe he is one of the top 5 receivers inthe game.
i would rather take a chance on mike williams, because his contract will be very cap friendly for the first several years. there will be nothing cp friendly about the contract that burress will sign.

[QUOTE=Daseal]Personally I'd like to see Jacobs as our 3rd WR. I hope to see many more 3-4 WR sets this year. I feel our WRs are fairly solid all the way through, not as good as I thought they'd be this year, but we have a pretty deep bench. I say we rotate em in and wear the hell outta those DBs![/QUOTE]

OK so then you're essentially keeping Jacobs and Thrash in the same roles that they had this year, but hoping that Gibbs would utilize them more. I was looking along the lines of drafting a WR, not a #1 or #2 but giving Jacobs a shot at #2 or is he not ready for that yet?

I think that Jacobs would be a good #3. He is maturing just like Patrick Ramsey and I think it is only a matter of time before he has a breakout game. The kid has some WHEELZ.

[QUOTE=LongTimeSkinsFan]OK so then you're essentially keeping Jacobs and Thrash in the same roles that they had this year, but hoping that Gibbs would utilize them more. I was looking along the lines of drafting a WR, not a #1 or #2 but giving Jacobs a shot at #2 or is he not ready for that yet?[/QUOTE]

I would say that Jacobs should be given a shot at #2 but then if that means that Coles and Jacobs are your top 2 aren't they very similar? Don't you need a big, possesion guy as one of your top receivers?

I think if we trade Gardner it shouldn't necessarily be to make room for another receiver not on our roster. I'd like to see Jacobs and McCants get more playing time, and a healthy Coles

[QUOTE=smootsmack]I would say that Jacobs should be given a shot at #2 but then if that means that Coles and Jacobs are your top 2 aren't they very similar? Don't you need a big, possesion guy as one of your top receivers?
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Two speed guy work pretty well for St Louis.

I think that we have the guys we need at wide reciever. Think about it...
[b]Coles[/b] - great receiver, should be healthier next season.
[b]Thrash[/b] - did pretty well in Philly when asked to be the number one guy. Can certainly be asked to be the number 2 guy.
[b]Jacobs[/b] - I think he is ready to make the push for the number 2 position and his speed will take some pressure of Coles.
[b]Gardner[/b] - has the size we want and is in a make or break year. A good receiver, but probably not the number two guy anymore.

I think we trade our pick and get the guys we need for a monster o-line. o-lineman are less expensive, and with better blocking and protection for Ramsey, our receivers could have a great year.

They "could' have a great year every year. Honestly, with this being a contract year for Rod I could wait for a WR. I'd like to trade our first pick away for two next year if that's the case. Let rod have a good year, and trade him away.

I just want to know when the invasion of Canada is going to begin.

haha, saden. Gardner has all the physical tools, and next year he knows every ball he drops means less money for him. I expect 0 drops! ;)

[QUOTE=Redskins_P]Saden, who would rather have on your roster right now? Rod Gardner or Plaxico Burress?

If you're smart you'd rather have Plaxico. Right?[/QUOTE]

Plaxico is a timid fellow. He makes the great catches sometimes and misses that easy ones. Yeah, he is a bit better than Rod but not by much.

[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]The more I hear about the subject the more I think the Redskins should explore trying to sign Plexico Burress. Even though we have a high draft pick, Mike Williams is the only one I would feel real comfortable taking.

The whole Braylan Edwards diagnosis is a little too Gardener-esque for my taste. I don't want to say trade down for Williams, but I feel that if we don't pick up a good WR in free agency that Williams may be one of the best, if not the best, pick up in the draft at WR.[/QUOTE]

I disagree with what people have been saying about Edwards. He is a baller with a bright future in the NFL. Not only does he have the physical skills (which gardner had too of course so we know that's not enough) but he's a bigtime playmaker who can control the tempo of a game by himself. If anyone saw the game against michigan state, where michigan came back and won in OT, Edwards took control of that game on his own. They were double teaming him in the redzone, of course, and he was just shredding whatever they threw at him. I hope we take him, as I honestly believe he is gonna make it big time in the pros.

The only criticism is that he drops balls, but they said that about Jerry Rice too.

I also like Edwards, but he does have a few Gardner like flaws. He also comes from the home of Desmond Howard.

[QUOTE=Daseal]He also comes from the home of Desmond Howard.[/QUOTE]
Well thats a plus

your joking right??? Howard was bust!!!!

I'm joking about Desmond, SUPER BOWL MVP!!!, but Edwards is a good receiver. I wouldn't be upset if we took him.