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Didn't see this being discussed elsewhere... I know this is national news, but it's all over most channels here in central PA. I can't believe that lack of humanity showed by the chain of command in Penn State athletics. When someone, anyone sees a child being molested and goes home to THINK ABOUT WHAT TO DO, there's a problem. When that person then comes to work the next day and reports it, and it's just passed up the chain and no police are called... that's a systemic failure. I hope they fire every last staff member and start from scratch. There's no excuse for what's happened at Penn State.

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I was pretty surprised a thread hasn't been started on this yet. If these allegations are true, then this is just about one of the most disgusting scandals in the history of sport. Jerry Sandusky should be castrated and shot. The lack of action by the AD, Paterno, and everyone else with knowledge is just downright deplorable.

[URL="http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7201952/penn-state-nittany-lions-tim-curley-takes-leave-gary-schultz-steps-amid-scandal"]Penn State Nittany Lions' Tim Curley takes leave, Gary Schultz steps down amid scandal - ESPN[/URL]
[URL="http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7192563/penn-state-nittany-lions-athletic-director-tim-curley-charged-perjury-sex-case"]Penn State Nittany Lions athletic director Tim Curley charged with perjury in sex case - ESPN[/URL]

Read the 23 page indictment here (I did- it's not for the faint of heart- I wanted to throw up):

[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/documents/sandusky-grand-jury-report11052011.html"]Jerry Sandusky arrested: Grand jury report - The Washington Post[/URL]

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BleedBurgundy- I merged my thread with yours since you started it a few minutes ahead of me. But I kept my thread title. I just feel like given the horrific nature of the allegations (read the Sandusky indictment), it's in poor taste to crack jokes about it right now (even though I did chuckle a bit at your title).

But jeez, this guy starts a camp for kids just so he can have access to little boys? Downright disgusting.

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There's nothing, absolutely nothing, that could ever make this right. But Joe Pa stepping down like yesterday would be a good first good step.

How Paterno could, in good conscience, visit a recruit's home and look the parents square in the eye and say, your kid is better off at Penn State, when he couldn't protect a ****ing ten year old is beyond me.

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[quote=GMScud;856843]BleedBurgundy- I merged my thread with yours since you started it a few minutes ahead of me. But I kept my thread title. I just feel like given the horrific nature of the allegations (read the Sandusky indictment), it's in poor taste to crack jokes about it right now (even though I did chuckle a bit at your title).

But jeez, this guy starts a camp for kids just so he can have access to little boys? Downright disgusting.[/quote]

Understood about the title, though please understand it's not that i find anything about this funny, it's that I think parallels can be drawn between the way this crime was handled compared with how the Vatican has notoriously dealt with abuse...by covering it up. Such organizations deserve to be mocked at a minimum.

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[quote=12thMan;856844]There's nothing, absolutely nothing, that could ever make this right. But Joe Pa stepping down like yesterday would be a good first good step.

How Paterno could, in good conscience, visit a recruit's home and look the parents square in the eye and say, your kid is better off at Penn State, when he couldn't protect a ****ing ten year old is beyond me.[/quote]

It just goes to show that College Football is put above everything else. Some of the most deplorable acts known to man are swept under the rug by otherwise intelligent, successful men just to avoid damaging the program and all the money it brings in. Sickening.

The fact that the graduate assistant (a 28 year old man at the time) walked into shower room and saw Sandusky bending over a 10 year old and didn't go straight to the cops.... WTF? Or the fact that the university knew this stuff was going on and all they did was take Sandusky's keys?

It's a shame a coach that has done so much good for the sport is gonna go out like this... but I don't see how this doesn't end with Joe Pa stepping down. It has too.

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This is not how I would hope that Joe Pa would go out.

But he should go.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;856850]Understood about the title, though please understand it's not that i find anything about this funny, it's that [B]I think parallels can be drawn between the way this crime was handled compared with how the Vatican has notoriously dealt with abuse...by covering it up. Such organizations deserve to be mocked at a minimum.[/B][/quote]

I agree. Mocked is the absolute minimum. Blown up and jailed is what should happen.

IMO, anyone who sexually preys on little kids should be locked away with the mass murderers of the world. I find little, if anything on this planet more horrific than sexually abusing a child.

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Joe Pa couldn't have had anything to do with this cover up. Look at how much money he raises from boosters for the football program.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;856861]Joe Pa couldn't have had anything to do with this cover up. Look at how much money he raises from boosters for the football program.[/quote]

Well, he knew about the allegations, and all he did was mention it to the AD. He certainly didn't do all he could, that's for damn sure. There's plenty of blame to go around here, and a portion of it falls on Joe Pa's shoulders.

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[quote=GMScud;856853]It just goes to show that College Football is put above everything else. Some of the most deplorable acts known to man are swept under the rug by otherwise intelligent, successful men just to avoid damaging the program and all the money it brings in. Sickening.

The fact that the graduate assistant (a 28 year old man at the time) walked into shower room and saw Sandusky bending over a 10 year old and didn't go straight to the cops.... WTF? Or the fact that the university knew this stuff was going on and all they did was take Sandusky's keys?

It's a shame a coach that has done so much good for the sport is gonna go out like this... but I don't see how this doesn't end with Joe Pa stepping down. It has too.[/quote]

You know Sandusky was being courted by the Terps but turned it down, reportedly, because of the foundation he was running.

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Read the 23 page indictment here (I did- it's not for the faint of heart- I wanted to throw up):

[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/documents/sandusky-grand-jury-report11052011.html"]Jerry Sandusky arrested: Grand jury report - The Washington Post[/URL][/quote]

un-f-ing real, i really have no way to exprss how i feel after reading that. i have been listening to the radio and hearing about it all day, but this is the first time i read the indictment. there really isn't a punishment that could fit this crime. i have always said chilid molesters are by far the WORST type of person on the face of the earth. i hope he rots in a dumpster some where, what a ****in piece of shit.

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[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/other-sports/43855-official-2011-college-football-thread-3.html[/url]

FYI, it was being discussed in the college football thread, but I too figured it was definitely own thread worthy. I've already discussed my thoughts on the matter in there, but to make a long story short I pretty much agree anybody involved in this, or knew anything whatsoever and failed to do anything about needs to be disbarred from the program, JoePa included.

It's beyond me how someone could witness such a deplorable and sickening act and not immediately think, holy shit I need to call the cops, this is disgusting. You're more of a man than I am Scud, because I just read the ESPN article and felt like I couldn't read anymore. No way I'm touching that 23 page report. As soon as I heard about the oral/anal in the lockerroom, etc., I felt just stunned that people could witness these things and just pass it on to the next guy, without thinking twice about calling the cops.

And I highly doubt it was just 8 kids, this is just the beginning, by the time every last kid comes forward you could be looking at triple or quadruple that number. I mean I can't believe after JoePa heard about this, it never crossed his mind that this ****ing sick sexual predator ran a foundation that was probably his main source to young boys. There's no ****ing justice possible for all the kids who are probably traumatized to this day, and it's a serious disservice to those people who work hard to help out at-risk kids every day with good intentions.

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[quote=GMScud;856830]I was pretty surprised a thread hasn't been started on this yet. [/quote]

We were talking about in the the official college football thread, but yeah, this deserves a thread of its own for sure.



Sickening listening to PSU fans claiming none of this is on Joe Paterno. /facepalm


So they knew he had sexual abuse allegations against him back in '98, and then had the assistant tell him of a incident between Sandusky and 10 year old boy. So Joe lets one person knows, continues to allow Sandusky on campus and around kids, and doesn't follow up on it or question anything? You shitting me? Joe better be glad its not my kid.


I can imagine the civil suits against Penn State are going to be costly. They should bleed them dry. Every single penny the football program receives should be going to those families and to child molestation prevention causes.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;856861]Joe Pa couldn't have had anything to do with this cover up. Look at how much money he raises from boosters for the football program.[/quote]

I'm going to pretend I didn't see this stupid statement.

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This is another case I support the death penalty for. Then again, being in jail as a child molester will be much more torture.

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[quote=NC_Skins;856906]I'm going to pretend I didn't see this stupid statement.[/quote]

He's going to pretend you can sense sarcasm

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[quote=SmootSmack;856921]He's going to pretend you can sense sarcasm[/quote]

****! Damn you Dirtbag!! ...lol


I thought at first, nah...this is a troll...then I started reading a bunch of shit from PSU fans similar...lol Either way, I feel like a jackass. Sorry DB.

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[quote=NC_Skins;856925]****! Damn you Dirtbag!! ...lol


I thought at first, nah...this is a troll...then I started reading a bunch of shit from PSU fans similar...lol Either way, I feel like a jackass. Sorry DB.[/quote]

Lol. Part of me knows I shouldn't joke about this but it's so appalling that I at least have to do something to lighten the mood.

And there is some truth to what I said. Part of the reason Joe Pa has stayed as head coach for so long is he brings in a ridiculous amount of money from boosters. Penn State for years has been easily one of the most well funded football programs in the country, maybe even the most well funded, and apparently a huge part of that is Joe Pa's ability to solicit donations from boosters.

Anyway heres what I think should happen.

First they need to make sure that none of his kids were abused. This line scares the shit out of me

[quote]Since retirement, Sandusky has hosted many summer football camps and remains involved in The Second Mile, a children's charity he founded in State College, Pennsylvania in 1977.[6] His son, Jon Sandusky, serves as Director of Player Personnel for the Cleveland Browns.[7][8] Another son, E.J., is an assistant football coach at West Chester University.
Sandusky is married [B]and has six adopted children[/B].[9][/quote]

Second enough money needs to be set aside to make sure his wife and remaining minor children have enough money to send the kids to college..

After a necessary amount is determined the rest of his estate and assets should go to paying for pain and suffering towards every kid he's convicted of molesting.

Also Penn State should be held liable. They should be forced to pay for therapy, which unfortunately for all the victims needs to be mandatory since at the very least this experience untreated will put them all at risk for drug abuse, suicide, depression, and violence.

After that Penn State should also be forced to pay out settlements no less then six figures for every child for pain and suffering and also be forced to pay for the victims future college education at the school of their choice. The money they've gotten for football should make that easy.

Penn State football should also get double the punishment USC got for the Reggie Bush scandal. The only reason to keep them bowl eligible is to help raise more money for the victims.

Finally Joe Paterno needs to resign.

This whole incident is unacceptable.

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Shocking. I didnt read indictment because after reading a couple articles dont really want to read anymore. Im surprised it isnt as big of a story as it seems to be yet in the news. Tons of headlines are saying things like this is gonna chip away or tarnish his legacy.... Really thats it? He allowed a child predator to persist and is lying that he knew anything about it. Maybe i need to wait for more details to come out, but it sounds like joe was told about this and didnt do anything. I wonder how many more kids got raped when he looked the other way? Ive always been a big fan but if Paterno doesnt step down immediately hopefully the new AD will fire him immediately and anyone else who even heard rumors of this shit going on.

Amazing someone can see that kind of stuff first hand and not run to report it to the police. Or how when someone reports it to a higher up they dont immediately report it the police. Its like telling your boss the next day that there was a fire in the lockeroom, you dont do that, you just call the fire department immediately or try and put it out yourself. I mean what is there to think about or consider? Everyone that didnt report the rapes enabled future rapes of children to take place later on. Sick.

It does however make you think about the psychology or thought of a person seeing that kind of stuff happen and not intervening, calling the police or speaking up or doing anything about it when its effectively swept under the rug by someone above you. The power of conformity when people above you or your peers all look the other way has to play a roll in this. I think its easy for all of us to say we would have intervened or ran to the police, but when regular people from a janitor to a grad assistant to a wrestling coach all see things and dont report it maybe its harder to do what seems so intuitive otherwise.

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[quote=NC_Skins;856909]This is another case I support the death penalty for. Then again, being in jail as a child molester will be much more torture.[/quote]

He'd immediately request solitary. The other prisoners would beat his brains in before he could set foot in the door.

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[url=http://news.yahoo.com/charity-says-severed-ties-accused-coach-2008-163413735.html]Charity says cut ties with accused football coach - Yahoo! News[/url]

This sick mother ****er met his victims from the very charity he started to "help troubled boys." **** yes this guy should die and it should be public. I say shoot him, then hang him, then tattoo them, then kill him!!!


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[quote=NC_Skins;856909]This is another case I support the death penalty for. Then again, being in jail as a child molester will be much more torture.[/quote]

As bad as this sounds, what if the guy actually enjoys getting d in the a? We already know he gave a 10 year old kid oral, so there's no telling if he might enjoy taking it up the butt too. That's why I said there's just no justice possible whatsoever, because nothing you could do to this dude would bring any relief whatsoever to these kids who have been scarred by him.

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Lavar Arrington's [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/hard-hits/post/jerry-sandusky-news-shocking-to-this-former-player/2011/11/07/gIQAO7oVvM_blog.html"]thoughts[/URL] on the subject.

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I will not argue that Paterno isn't culpable in this, although I think there's a human element to this story that's being obscured. Let's start with looking at Lavar's comments about his former coach Sandusky in the Washington Post (reprinted in the ESPN.com story):

"I'm perplexed as to how someone who did so much good could end up being accused of something so bad. I have my own kids, and I know how strongly I feel about them and protecting them from hurt, harm and danger. Selfishly I hope that Jerry is innocent, but if he isn't, as a parent my thought is may God show mercy on him ... On one side I want Jerry to be innocent because he was a great man to me, but on the other side, as a responsible parent if he did molest or assault those children, then he needs to be responsible for his actions, as we all have to be."

So while we are painting Sandusky as a monster - fairly - remember that even the most evil man is complex. Never more so than here. People who knew Sandusky loved him, described him as a great person and teacher, and a brilliant football mind. That all but the latter are now coming undone doesn't change the fact that he obviously had very good qualities, which I think Lavar's quote captures. My point not being to humanize someone guilty of the inhuman, but to help us to understand how Paterno would, in what was clearly in retrospect bad judgment, not rush to vigilantism against one of his oldest and most trusted colleagues. He was presented with this information and told the AD. He probably hoped it wasn't true. Jerry couldn't be guilty of that? No way, I know him.

A couple of years ago a friend of mine was accused of a monstrous sex crime. I didn't believe it. How could I? This was someone I knew, had driven across the country with, confessed my deepest thoughts to. I was not in a position to report his behavior to police but I can tell you that I wouldn't have, not because I would have wanted to protect him, but because I couldn't at that time bring myself to believe that someone I knew that well could be guilty of such a crime. Well guilty he was.

We live in a cynical age in which our most trusted leaders and public figures almost always break our hearts. They lie. They cheat. They steal. They fall short, again and again. You see that cynicism here and in other discussions: Paterno knows more than he's letting on goes the charge. Maybe, and if so I won't defend him. But isn't it possible that he didn't believe that this could be true about Jerry? That he did what was legally required of him (no debate there) but no more given the circumstances? And if so, does it really undo five decades of work in which he touched thousands of lives in a positive way?

I don't know. I know people are angry and want retribution. Maybe I am falling into that same trap ... I just can't believe that about Joe.

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[quote=mooby;856968][B]As bad as this sounds, what if the guy actually enjoys getting d in the a? We already know he gave a 10 year old kid oral, so there's no telling if he might enjoy taking it up the butt too.[/B] That's why I said there's just no justice possible whatsoever, because nothing you could do to this dude would bring any relief whatsoever to these kids who have been scarred by him.[/quote]

They don't bend you over in jail if you're a child molester, they kill you.

Child molester/rapists that don't ask immediately for administrative segregation is ASKING for a death sentence. Prisoners want nothing to do with rapists and child molesters.

[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;856991]They don't bend you over in jail if you're a child molester, they kill you.

Child molester/rapists that don't ask immediately for administrative segregation is ASKING for a death sentence. Prisoners want nothing to do with rapists and child molesters.[/QUOTE]

Ah, I always assumed the rapists were the ones getting raped in jail, but death is a welcome alternative to that.

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[quote=GMScud;856863]Well, he knew about the allegations, and all he did was mention it to the AD. He certainly didn't do all he could, that's for damn sure. There's plenty of blame to go around here, and a portion of it falls on Joe Pa's shoulders.[/quote]

Joe Pa deserves a ton of blame.

Cant believe Joe Pa defense is gonna be "i reported it" to the AD like he did the right thing.

Sorry, but Joe Pa is a scumbag and everyone knows the AD worked for him and not he worked for the AD.

The obvious right thing to do is call the authorities, I hope this taints Joe Pa so called legacy, Ive lost all respect for the man.

I hope Penn St gets sued so bad the program folds, most over rated football program in the land anyways.

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[quote=djnemo65;856987]I will not argue that Paterno isn't culpable in this, although I think there's a human element to this story that's being obscured. Let's start with looking at Lavar's comments about his former coach Sandusky in the Washington Post (reprinted in the ESPN.com story):

"I'm perplexed as to how someone who did so much good could end up being accused of something so bad. I have my own kids, and I know how strongly I feel about them and protecting them from hurt, harm and danger. Selfishly I hope that Jerry is innocent, but if he isn't, as a parent my thought is may God show mercy on him ... On one side I want Jerry to be innocent because he was a great man to me, but on the other side, as a responsible parent if he did molest or assault those children, then he needs to be responsible for his actions, as we all have to be."

So while we are painting Sandusky as a monster - fairly - remember that even the most evil man is complex. Never more so than here. People who knew Sandusky loved him, described him as a great person and teacher, and a brilliant football mind. That all but the latter are now coming undone doesn't change the fact that he obviously had very good qualities, which I think Lavar's quote captures. My point not being to humanize someone guilty of the inhuman, but to help us to understand how Paterno would, in what was clearly in retrospect bad judgment, not rush to vigilantism against one of his oldest and most trusted colleagues. He was presented with this information and told the AD. He probably hoped it wasn't true. Jerry couldn't be guilty of that? No way, I know him.

A couple of years ago a friend of mine was accused of a monstrous sex crime. I didn't believe it. How could I? This was someone I knew, had driven across the country with, confessed my deepest thoughts to. I was not in a position to report his behavior to police but I can tell you that I wouldn't have, not because I would have wanted to protect him, but because I couldn't at that time bring myself to believe that someone I knew that well could be guilty of such a crime. Well guilty he was.

We live in a cynical age in which our most trusted leaders and public figures almost always break our hearts. They lie. They cheat. They steal. They fall short, again and again. You see that cynicism here and in other discussions: Paterno knows more than he's letting on goes the charge. Maybe, and if so I won't defend him. But isn't it possible that he didn't believe that this could be true about Jerry? That he did what was legally required of him (no debate there) but no more given the circumstances? And if so, does it really undo five decades of work in which he touched thousands of lives in a positive way?

I don't know. I know people are angry and want retribution. Maybe I am falling into that same trap ... I just can't believe that about Joe.[/quote]

Sorry dude this guy is a piece of trash, complete trash. The devil comes to us in many forms very rarely does he come as a monster, he used the good attributes you described about him to hide his true monstrous acts. Joe Pa was shown the devil and he choose to not bring him to justice and for that Joe Pa is guilt. Joe Pa has to be the most powerful man on that campus and he choose not to use that power to bring this devil out. For that I say FAWK YOU Joe Pa and for every kid that got molested after Joe Pa knew of this and said nothing I give Joe PA a DOUBLE FAWK YOU! Rot in hell you old piece of shit and everyone else wrapped up in this.

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There was a Sandusky in Baltimore that reports sports (don't know if he still does), anyone know if he is any relation? Just curious.

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Wow, here I was thinking to myself a human being would see the abuse, put a stop to it immediately and call the police right away. Who the fck reports it to their boss? The POS person who saw it should be the first person to be put down for this heinous crimes.

[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;857047]There was a Sandusky in Baltimore that reports sports (don't know if he still does), anyone know if he is any relation? Just curious.[/QUOTE]

Still does. Gerry. His dad Alex was a guard with the Colts.

This Sandusky has a nice who is basically the Morocco Brown of the Cleveland Browns. As expected, he's taken a leave of absence.

And Nemo, I understand your allegiance to Penn State but this is bigger than any school allegiance in my opinion. I doubt you'd be whistling a simmer tune if the coach in question was Bob Stoops, and not Joe Pa.

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[quote=saden1;857052]Wow, here I was thinking to myself a human being would see the abuse, put a stop to it immediately and call the police right away. Who the fck reports it to their boss? The POS person who saw it should be the first person to be put down for this heinous crimes.[/quote]

I mean, even these guys know what to do:

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/06/us/california-robbery-porn-bust/index.html?iref=allsearch]Police arrest man for child pornography after tipoff from burglars - CNN.com[/url]

Seriously bad sh** should happen to anyone who had knowledge and passed it off.

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[url=http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/11/07/michael-tomasky-penn-state-coach-joe-paterno-s-moral-fall.html]Michael Tomasky: Penn State Coach Joe Paterno’s Moral Fall - The Daily Beast[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;857054]Still does. Gerry. His dad Alex was a guard with the Colts.

This Sandusky has a nice who is basically the Morocco Brown of the Cleveland Browns. As expected, he's taken a leave of absence.

And Nemo, I understand your allegiance to Penn State but this is bigger than any school allegiance in my opinion. I doubt you'd be whistling a simmer tune if the coach in question was Bob Stoops, and not Joe Pa.[/quote]

I don't know what a simmer tune is. I don't know what I'd say if the coach in question was Bob Stoops. I don't think Bob Stoops has five decades of integrity to fall back on. We don't have enough information but I think his career entitles Paterno to some benefit of doubt. And I can assure you this has little to do with "allegiance." I've been the most open Paterno detractor in the world for 10 plus years. I think his exit would be the best thing that could happen for the program. I just think calling him a ****er and wishing that his old ass burns in hell is a little premature.

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[quote=djnemo65;857064]I don't know what a simmer tune is. I don't know what I'd say if the coach in question was Bob Stoops. I don't think Bob Stoops has five decades of integrity to fall back on. We don't have enough information but I think his career entitles Paterno to some benefit of doubt. And I can assure you this has little to do with "allegiance." I've been the most open Paterno detractor in the world for 10 plus years. I think his exit would be the best thing that could happen for the program. I just think calling him a ****er and wishing that his old ass burns in hell is a little premature.[/quote]

Whoops...similar.

All fair points. I think Paterno should step down immediately. That's just one man's opinion

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[quote=SmootSmack;857065]Whoops...similar.

All fair points. I think Paterno should step down immediately. That's just one man's opinion[/quote]

Well looks like consensus is forming pretty quickly and it agrees with you. At the least Paterno does immediately owe us more than we were all fooled.

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I think the bottomline is Joe Pa was clearly aware a possible henious crime was committed by an eyewittness, the question is why didnt he call the authorities or ensure a call was made to authorities?

I dont think Joe Pa lives by the street code of "stop snitching"

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[quote=saden1;857052]Wow, here I was thinking to myself a human being would see the abuse, put a stop to it immediately and call the police right away. Who the fck reports it to their boss? The POS person who saw it should be the first person to be put down for this heinous crimes.[/quote]

No doubt. Graduate assistant who's now a WR coach? Wouldn't surprise me if he was told not to go to the police and in return he got a bit of a promotion. Not saying that's what happened, but it wouldn't surprise me

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F-ing predator, and those that covered for him, should not see the light of day except through bars ever again.

Joe Pa you failed miserably, acknowledge your failure, express remorse and step down immediately.