Matt Barkley Stays (QB Draft Prospect Thread-Episode IV)
 

New news, new thread

We can expand the talk to discuss some of the mid to late round prospects. For example...Kellen Moore who will be playing his final Boise State game tonight

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One less potential QB for us kinda sucks.

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Episode IV, A Lost Hope? LOL!!

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**** me!! RGIII will probably follow suit. The draft changes completely for the Redskins now, I would consider Foles, Cousins or Moore in the 2nd and trade down get a CB, C or WR.

Now the firestorm that is Andrew Luck gets even bigger

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[quote=Ruhskins;869645]Episode IV, A Lost Hope? LOL!![/quote]


That was funny! But sad at the same time. God we can't catch break.

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I think Luck made it Kosher to stay.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;869646]**** me!! RGIII will probably follow suit. The draft changes completely for the Redskins now, I would consider Foles, Cousins or Moore in the 2nd and trade down get a CB, C or WR.[/quote]

I think they trade down, pick up Tannehill, and get a few more picks and continuously draft down. Barkley staying in school could be a bit of a blessing in disguise for us...

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Can I get a refund for the time I've wasted here debating the merits of Barkley or RGIII? Seriously, as big as our QB need is, I wonder if we go best player available (assuming RGIII returns as is also rumored) because the drop off after Luck is steep and next years class seems deeper and more talented in the 1st round. As I mentioned this morning this could work out to be another trade down draft for us.

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Well you never know maybe there's some QB out there no one is thinking of that may suddenly become available

That said, I've felt for a while we probably weren't going QB in the top 10 anyway.

I kind of wish it was April already

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[quote=SmootSmack;869655][I][B]Well you never know maybe there's some QB out there no one is thinking of that may suddenly become available[/B][/I]

That said, I've felt for a while we probably weren't going QB in the top 10 anyway.

I kind of wish it was April already[/quote]

Does this go back to the little rumor you know but don't care to share? Hmmm....

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;869646]**** me!! RGIII will probably follow suit. The draft changes completely for the Redskins now, I would consider Foles, Cousins or Moore in the 2nd and trade down get a CB, C or WR.[/quote]

Well, with Matt Barkley set to return to USC, we longer have to write about him. All of the NFL Mock Drafts will have to suddenly be updated. As for picking a QB in the second round, I'm against it. Most of the successful QBs in the NFL that lead their teams to the playoffs year in and year out are former 1st round draft selections. Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers, Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, and others. The Redskins must do whatever it can to land a QB in the first round and there are no senior QBs that are projected 1st round picks. What it all boils down to is the Redskins and the Rams becoming trade partners, and the Redskins trading away their 1st and possibly their second round picks to move up in exchange for the Rams 1st and maybe 3rd round picks. This is the only way the Redskins are going to draft RG3.

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[quote=mredskins;869656]Does this go back to the little rumor you know but don't care to share? Hmmm....[/quote]

Hmmmm

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[quote=SmootSmack;869655]Well you never know maybe there's some QB out there no one is thinking of that may suddenly become available

That said, I've felt for a while we probably weren't going QB in the top 10 anyway.

[B]I kind of wish it was April already[/B][/quote]

Me too. I don't blame us but we sure do engage in a lot of idle speculation here. It would be nice to talk about what-is rather than what-if.

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[quote=SmootSmack;869659]Hmmmm[/quote]

You should just go ahead and tell us, Smoots. Just put a disclaimer out there so there is no confusion....

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[quote=mbedner3420;869661]You should just go ahead and tell us, Smoots. Just put a disclaimer out there so there is no confusion....[/quote]

What kind of disclaimer?

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;869657]Well, with Matt Barkley set to return to USC, we longer have to write about him. All of the NFL Mock Drafts will have to suddenly be updated. As for picking a QB in the second round, I'm against it. Most of the successful QBs in the NFL that lead their teams to the playoffs year in and year out are former 1st round draft selections. Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers, Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, and others. The Redskins must do whatever it can to land a QB in the first round and there are no senior QBs that are projected 1st round picks. What it all boils down to is the Redskins and the Rams becoming trade partners, and the Redskins trading away their 1st and possibly their second round picks to move up in exchange for the Rams 1st and maybe 3rd round picks. This is the only way the Redskins are going to draft RG3.[/quote]
Mat Barkley is dead to me. I hope he flops and falls to a second round and gets sacked 54 times.

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[quote=SmootSmack;869662]What kind of disclaimer?[/quote]

Let the guessing game continue.. Is he a current starter? I've got a theory but I don't know if he is a system fit.

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[quote=SmootSmack;869655]Well you never know maybe there's some QB out there no one is thinking of that may suddenly become available

That said, I've felt for a while we probably weren't going QB in the top 10 anyway.

I kind of wish it was April already[/quote]

is he currently on ir for a broken collar bone? i really wonder what he could have done in this system. to me it seems like he could have done the exact same thing rex is doing but with better physical tools, and perhaps a little potential.

what do you think we will do in the draft now? i've always figured if we weren't able to get rg3 or barkley that we might trade back and get a wr. and i actually like kellen moore, not sure if he will cut it in the nfl but the kid's arm is stupid accurate.

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[quote=SmootSmack;869662]What kind of disclaimer?[/quote]


We need some good news, though you did say a lot of folks may not be happy with the name.

Just use his initials; like for example:

Peyton Manning


See how I just used his initials.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;869663]Mat Barkley is dead to me. I hope he flops and falls to a second round and gets sacked 54 times.[/quote]

And then we get him in the second round in 2013?

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Can't blame Barkley. Its quiet simple; USC is only for 4 years, the NFL is forever. Also I think Sam Bradford will/has effected many QBs decisions as to whether or not they should come out. He stayed, but was so highly rated and regarded that even after he got injured he was still a top pick. If Barkley plays a game or two next year and tears an ACL I still see him as the number 1 overall pick. I heard Mel Kiper saying he thinks that Logan Thomas will challenge him...don't see that at all.

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[quote=SmootSmack;869662]What kind of disclaimer?[/quote]

RUMOR: The Redskin are interested in _______

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[quote=SmootSmack;869667]And then we get him in the second round in 2013?[/quote]
He will be the perfect compliment to our new saftey.

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[quote=mredskins;869666]We need some good news, though you did say a lot of folks may not be happy with the name.

Just use his initials; like for example:

Peyton Manning


See how I just used his initials.[/quote]

Or do a rhyme, like it rhymes with Pat Hassel, for example.

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[quote=mlmdub130;869665]is he currently on ir for a broken collar bone? i really wonder what he could have done in this system. to me it seems like he could have done the exact same thing rex is doing but with better physical tools, and perhaps a little potential.

what do you think we will do in the draft now? i've always figured if we weren't able to get rg3 or barkley that we might trade back and get a wr. and i actually like kellen moore, not sure if he will cut it in the nfl but the kid's arm is stupid accurate.[/quote]

I'm not even sure who you're talking about. Is it Cassell? In that case, no. Not that I've heard of.

As for what we'll do in the draft. I really don't think this changes my opinion much. If RGII and/or Landry Jones decide to stay then it's a different story.

I like Moore a lot but I'd take him late and he wouldn't be the only QB I'd add

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[quote=SmootSmack;869672]I'm not even sure who you're talking about. Is it Cassell? In that case, no. Not that I've heard of.

As for what we'll do in the draft. I really don't think this changes my opinion much. If RGII and/or Landry Jones decide to stay then it's a different story.

I like Moore a lot but I'd take him late and he wouldn't be the only QB I'd add[/quote]
Is it Mat Moore

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[quote=SmootSmack;869672]I'm not even sure who you're talking about. Is it Cassell? In that case, no. Not that I've heard of.

As for what we'll do in the draft. I really don't think this changes my opinion much. If RGII and/or Landry Jones decide to stay then it's a different story.

I like Moore a lot but I'd take him late and he wouldn't be the only QB I'd add[/quote]

Moore plays tonight against my favorite defensive player in the draft, Vontaze Burfict.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;869668]Can't blame Barkley. Its quiet simple; USC is only for 4 years, the NFL is forever. Also I think Sam Bradford will/has effected many QBs decisions as to whether or not they should come out. He stayed, but was so highly rated and regarded that even after he got injured he was still a top pick. If Barkley plays a game or two next year I and tears an ACL I still see him as the number 1 overall pick. I heard Mel Kiper saying he thinks that Logan Thomas will challenge him...don't see that at all.[/quote]

also this entire year at usc came with no pay off, usc was dealing with aftermath of reggie this year. usc finished 10-2 losing one game to stanford and beating oregon at the end of the year. they have a legit shot at the national title with what looks to be the top qb and top ol in college football next year.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;869673]Is it Mat Moore[/quote]

Does your keyboard prevent you from typing double "T"? Mat Barkley and Mat Moore on back to back posts? Jus curious.

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[quote=SmootSmack;869643]New news, new thread

We can expand the talk to discuss some of the mid to late round prospects. For example...Kellen Moore who will be playing his final Boise State game tonight[/quote]

Boooo. Damnit. I'm not liking our odds if RG3 stays too. I guess we'd go the "somebody else's retreads" route.

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[quote=Paintrain;869676]Does your keyboard prevent you from typing double "T"? Mat Barkley and Mat Moore on back to back posts? Jus curious.[/quote]
Hey is there anything you can put on your keyboard, to prevent you from being anal?

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Well it's two names. One I've heard directly associated with the Redskins but the source while good is just one source and so, in my mind, that's not enough. Plus it's more of a "this could happen" possibility

The other name I've been asking a lot of different people about today and it's potentially got some serious legs. It'd be pretty huge. The rumor hasn't been as directly associated with the Redskins but indirectly it has.

If I get more info to be able to confirm or totally debunk either rumor then of course I'd tell you. But, as is my policy, I don't like to just throw things out there (I just like to tease).

They're both young (youngish) QBs.

And I'm not talking about guys I've talked about in the past Bradford (would absolutely trade for him) and Colt McCoy (not as sure)

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Matt Barkley. Bah humbug.

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[quote=SmootSmack;869672]I'm not even sure who you're talking about. Is it Cassell? In that case, no. Not that I've heard of.

As for what we'll do in the draft. I really don't think this changes my opinion much. If RGII and/or Landry Jones decide to stay then it's a different story.

I like Moore a lot but I'd take him late and he wouldn't be the only QB I'd add[/quote]

i was thinking of campbell, more as a joke, but honestly where the hell will he end up next year, just riding pine behind palmer?

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[quote=SmootSmack;869679]Well it's two names. One I've heard directly associated with the Redskins but the source while good is just one source and so, in my mind, that's not enough. Plus it's more of a "this could happen" possibility

The other name I've been asking a lot of different people about today and it's potentially got some serious legs. It'd be pretty huge. The rumor hasn't been as directly associated with the Redskins but indirectly it has.

If I get more info to be able to confirm or totally debunk either rumor then of course I'd tell you. But, as is my policy, I don't like to just throw things out there (I just like to tease).

They're both young (youngish) QBs.

And I'm not talking about guys I've talked about in the past Bradford (would absolutely trade for him) and Colt McCoy (not as sure)[/quote]
Your killing me. We respect you enough that if they are totally unfounded, we will forgive you.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;869678]Hey is there anything you can put on your keyboard, to prevent you from being anal?[/quote]

It was a joke, hence the 'jus' curious.. Man, a college kid stays in school and folks get all uptight. Tis the season bro.

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[quote=SmootSmack;869679]Well it's two names. One I've heard directly associated with the Redskins but the source while good is just one source and so, in my mind, that's not enough. Plus it's more of a "this could happen" possibility

The other name I've been asking a lot of different people about today and it's potentially got some serious legs. It'd be pretty huge. The rumor hasn't been as directly associated with the Redskins but indirectly it has.

If I get more info to be able to confirm or totally debunk either rumor then of course I'd tell you. But, as is my policy, I don't like to just throw things out there (I just like to tease).

They're both young (youngish) QBs.

And I'm not talking about guys I've talked about in the past Bradford (would absolutely trade for him) and Colt McCoy (not as sure)[/quote]

As long as it's not Peyton Manning. What about that Jason Campbell guy out there in Oakland? He probably won't be starting anymore with the trade for Palmer.

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[quote=Paintrain;869684]It was a joke, hence the 'jus' curious.. Man, a college kid stays in school and folks get all uptight. Tis the season bro.[/quote]
Hey man, I was jus jokin too.

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[quote=mlmdub130;869682]i was thinking of campbell, more as a joke, but honestly where the hell will he end up next year, just riding pine behind palmer?[/quote]

Man could you imagine if Campbell came back here?