Many of you are ready to kick Ohalete to the sideline!!!
 

Did he have that bad a season last year? More important in Williams D can he be better? Dose he fit this D better then the one Edwards ran last year? This is a guy in his fouth pro season and can he get better? With Smoot ,Springs, Bowen, Brown and maybe Harris is this that bad? I have to tell you the D line is much higher concern!!!! The report I read about Ohalete season was that he is a fierce hitter who was good in run support and was improving on cover skills. Another question is in a Williams D will the SS be in on passing downs? The one thing we all seem to over look is what great player we can get to play for this team but who is the best fit for a Williams D and Gibbs O !!!

I think your question is answered by the level of interest otehr teams have shown in him - nada to my knowledge.

I'm not sying he's poor - I only saw a few Skins games last year (UK and all), but he did seem to be fine on run support but lacking on coverage. I get the impression he is one of those guys who'll hang around in the league well into his 30's in a backup role on a few teams. I don't see him getting much better, but he could be a consistent performer for years.

IMHO if we sign another DL or maybe 2 then they will probably go for Taylor in the draft. If not then we'll trade down. I just don't see Winslow as a priority for us. However, if we can trade down 2 or 3 places and still get Winslow (assuming Taylor is gone) and get a good pick or 2 lower down, then they may draft a DE (Udeze) and Winslow and probably another DB (S?). That could be a good draft considering.

I REALLY like Ohalete. But, it seems like a foregone conclusion that he will be replaced by someone else. It is simply a question of who and Taylor would fit in nicely.

I really like Ohalate. He is quick and year before last he made a huge impact on special teams. I'd rather see Ohalate playing than Bowen. I think Bowen had an absolutly horrible season last year.

Ohalate seemed a lot more solid than Bowen.

I'm not booting him to the curb, but it's not like he's an all-pro or something. Both safety positions can definitely use an upgrade. Bowen and Iffy don't scare anyone.

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I'm not booting him to the curb, but it's not like he's an all-pro or something. Both safety positions can definitely use an upgrade. Bowen and Iffy don't scare anyone.[/QUOTE]

Not true. Bowen scares Canidate.

Ooh nasty! ;)

Didnt he break out and nail someone else during practice too?

Bowen nailed my man Smoot!

Wasn't that an accidental hit though. The guy hurts people without trying?.....

[QUOTE=Daseal]I really like Ohalate. He is quick and year before last he made a huge impact on special teams. I'd rather see Ohalate playing than Bowen. I think Bowen had an absolutly horrible season last year.

Ohalate seemed a lot more solid than Bowen.[/QUOTE]

No doubt Daseal... I am amazed that everyone is calling for Ohalete's head when Bowen is the weak link. The guy showed a propensity to get burned and still hasn't grasped the concept of wrapping up. All he does is lay a big hit every once and a while. If we draft Taylor... he is replacing Bowen!

I understand that not having any pressure up front last year contributed to the safeties coverage or lack thereof...but watching every single game last year it became very apparent that Bowen was NOTHING more than a plug in big-hitter. He should be relegated to a reserve role because he just does not have what it takes to be a starting FS in this league.

Ohalete on the other hand made some solid plays. Sure he had some mishaps but the guy is improving every year. I really like him and hope that he is there to show further improvement next year.

I also agree that Bowen is the weak link at the safety position. I would really like to draft Taylor, but it seems like the Redskins are considering moving down to get more draft picks. I do like Ohalete, but did anyone notice that when we signed Portis.......they gave him #26 jersey, which was Ohalete's number last year. I know that proabably doesn't mean anything, but you never know.

I also believe that we're not done trading. We'll just have to wait and see.

I hate to say it but I don't even think Taylor will be a skin next year. I am not sure but I think Taylor is with the Polston brothers as his agents and if this is true the polston brothers ( Arrington grivence), has burned their bridge in DC.

The agents are starting to ruien this game. I know you guys know that the actuall reason that Samuels won't restructure his contract is because his agent is the same agent for Pat Ramsey and the agent chooses not to deal with the skins because they won't trade his client Ramsey :rant:
It just pisses me off so much!!!

I'm pretty sure his agent is Rosenhaus. I'm not even close to 100% positve on that, but I thought I read somewhere recently that he had decided on Rosenhaus as his agent. Either way, this agent shit is getting outta control, its not their job to have "burned bridges" with a team, its their job to get their client the best place to play.

well he is isnt Roy Williams !!!!!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=Daseal]I really like Ohalate. He is quick and year before last he made a huge impact on special teams. I'd rather see Ohalate playing than Bowen. I think Bowen had an absolutly horrible season last year.

Ohalate seemed a lot more solid than Bowen.[/QUOTE]

I agree, bowen was supposed to be an impact saftey and it never materalized, unless you count how many of his own teammates he hit in pre season, I think if we draft taylor iffy will have a real good chance at the other saftey position.

There's a lot of talk that Iffy can't cover, honestly I didn't watch that all that much, but I know he has speed, which really helps make up for any mistakes.

Bowen got burned by keyshawn johnson...

Gentlemen, how quickly we forget.

[B]Bowen and Ohalete sucked out loud. [/B] Ohalete might have been just [I]slightly[/I] better than Bowen, who was a complete disaster and major disappointment.

We would lose NOTHING if they left the team.

When, aside from the Canidate hit in training camp, did Bowen ever establish to anyone who watches the Redskins that he's a "big hitter" ??

Not once during the season did Bowen come up with a big hit. I saw him get turned around, burned, and get caught way out of position for the tackle.

Let's say it like it is, shall we? Both safety positions were miserable last year.

As mediocre as our safety play has been, I'd like to see what they can do with Williams running the show.

Edwards was clearly in over his head last year.

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]As mediocre as our safety play has been, I'd like to see what they can do with Williams running the show.

Edwards was clearly in over his head last year.[/QUOTE]

I completely agree. While Taylor would be a huge upgrade, and I would welcome it, if they go a different route and leave safety as is, I think Iffy and Bowen will be much improved over last season.

The ENTIRE coaching staff was way over it's head last year. That will NOT be an issue this season!

I'm with Matty on this one. I get the feeling a lot of our D woes last year can be attributed to bad scheming or playcalling. If we draft Taylor, and move Ohalete across, I don't have a problem with Bowen as a backup.

isn't ohalete a free agent right now? so who's to say he'll even be back with the team? plus like I said before Bowen isn't gonna be a back up w/the salary he has and because we gave up a 4th rounder for him didn't we? plus between the two, in most of the games, it seemed to me that bowen made more plays than ohalete and other than a couple plays like the keyshawn touchdown, Bowens had a decent nose for the ball.

Uhm, correct me if I'm wrong but one thing about Gibbs is that he's a fans coach and he doesn't care about how much someone's making, they want the best available player playing.

Ok, two things about coach gibbs!

Why not let Iffy and Bowen duke it out for the starting SS spot if we choose Taylor?

[QUOTE=diehardskin2982]I hate to say it but I don't even think Taylor will be a skin next year. I am not sure but I think Taylor is with the Polston brothers as his agents and if this is true the polston brothers ( Arrington grivence), has burned their bridge in DC.[/QUOTE]

Taylor signed with the so-called "King" himself.... Drew Rosenhaus. Regardless of who is agent is.... it has minimal to do with a team drafting a player, if anything at all. Anyway, Rosenhaus and DannyBoy have a very solid relationship because Danny overpays all of his players...lol.

Kenechi anyone?
 

I agree that the safety situation was not optimal last year, but I think we are all forgetting what the major problem with our defense was last year: NO PENETRATION and NO D-LINE. Knowing this, it seems strange that the only improvements Snyder made in this department were Phillip Daniels, who is on the tail end of his career, and Cornelius Griffen, who is overrated. I think the skins can afford to let the safety situation stay the same if necessary, seeing that Iffy and Bowen are both relatively young, and coachable. I also don't think that we should use our draft pick on Taylor, but instead on Kenechi Udezi, the standout DE from USC. He regarded as an immediate impact player, and will help solve the pressure problem on the D-Line.


But that's just me.

[QUOTE=AnonEmouse]I think your question is answered by the level of interest otehr teams have shown in him - nada to my knowledge.

Paul Zimmerman had some good things to say about this guy early last season. I think he could be very good in Williams' system.

regards.

H2TR

Ohalete is a restricted free agent. I like him but the offer sheets are hardly breaking his door down.