2012 Bowl Prospects and Declared Underclassmen
 

Who has caught your eyes at this years bowl games?

Who has declared?

Put them here since we are overlapping threads with Andrew Luck and RG3.

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[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/12/13/nfl.draft.early.entrants/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a19&eref=sihp]2012 NFL Draft early entrants - NFL - SI.com[/url]

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man this thread is just getting a lot of posts and attention!

Lets me get this thread going

I really liked what I saw from Tyler Wilson QB Arkansas last night. Great passer, not as good of a calm passer as Luck, but had a lot of similarities to him.

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I know he is just as good as not better than ryan mallet. Not a statue, big arm, and accurate. Missed the game and haven't seen him in extensive action. but interesting none the less. I don't know if he would declare since he has only started a year and would start again for the Razorback.

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Blackmon certainly upped his stock, like him a lot. I'm a Hokie & love David Wilson. Attempting to put bias aside, I know Richardson & James are great, but I don't see their value being that much, if any, greater than Wilson. The kid has big time speed & runs strong after contact as well. Probably ranks lesser in recieving & blocking. IF we wanted a rb in the 2nd round he'd be great value. I don't see that happening even if he's on the board, but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised cause he's a Shanny kinda guy.

I thought Kirk Cousins of Mich. St. looked pretty good as a mid to late round pick. Nothing spectacular but maybe a guy that can grow & become a good backup or avg. starter if our presumed franchise qb doesn't work out.

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Well it's official now. Great opportunity to get some extra scouting in

[url=http://mobile.hogshaven.com/2012/1/7/2690172/washington-redskins-staff-to-coach-in-the-senior-bowl]Washington Redskins Staff to coach in the Senior Bowl - Hogs Haven[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;873752]Well it's official now. Great opportunity to get some extra scouting in

[url=http://mobile.hogshaven.com/2012/1/7/2690172/washington-redskins-staff-to-coach-in-the-senior-bowl]Washington Redskins Staff to coach in the Senior*Bowl - Hogs Haven[/url][/quote]

Nice.

How do they determine who coaches the teams?

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League office decides, but it's essentially reverse order of record or as close to it as possible. So he should be coaching Tannehill, Foles, and Weeden

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[quote=SmootSmack;873756] So he should be coaching Tannehill, Foles, and Weeden[/quote]

Wonder if he would grab Tannehill with the #6 if RGIII is off the board? (providing he really liked the guy) Would be interesting to see where he grades and if Mike would move back and then pick him up.

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He should totally sabotage Tannehill so no one wants him and we can steal him in the 2nd :)

It was in last year's Senior Bowl that the Bengals fell in love with Dalton

And, interestingly enough, the Redskins drafted more players from last year's Senior Bowl (6) than anyone else

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[quote=SmootSmack;873756]League office decides, but it's essentially reverse order of record or as close to it as possible. So he should be coaching Tannehill, Foles, and Weeden[/quote]

Sweeeet!

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[quote=SmootSmack;873789]He should totally sabotage Tannehill so no one wants him and we can steal him in the 2nd :)

It was in last year's Senior Bowl that the Bengals fell in love with Dalton

[B]And, interestingly enough, the Redskins drafted more players from last year's Senior Bowl (6) than anyone else[/B][/quote]

Watch, we'll coach it and draft the fewest this year of any other team haha

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[quote=CultBrennan59;873734]Who has caught your eyes at this years bowl games?

Who has declared?

Put them here since we are overlapping threads with Andrew Luck and RG3.[/quote]
I haven't watched more than a few games, but here are a few:

Blackmon
L. James
Tannehill
Russell Wilson
Jayron Hosely

I'm sure there's some I've forgotten.

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[quote=redsk1;873800]I haven't watched more than a few games, but here are a few:

Blackmon
L. James
Tannehill
Russell Wilson
Jayron Hosely

I'm sure there's some I've forgotten.[/quote]

Common names.

Jayron I was obsessed with and wanted, until a lot of scouts started comparing him to ..Dhall :(
Blackmon and LaMichael would look great in skin uni's.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;873798]Watch, we'll coach it and draft the fewest this year of any other team haha[/quote]

Its not quantity; its quality. Shanny had a good draft last year and with a closer look hopefully he can have a better one this year.

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Haven't seen many Bowl games this year but a few players caught my eye. I'll refrain from comment on the usual suspects for the most part but I'll mention a couple of them.

For [U]Oregon[/U], most of the players who caught my eye were underclassmen (Boyett, Alonzo, Tuinei). Watch out for them next season! [B]LeMichael James [/B]may be the most explosive player in college ball. I'd love to see him as our 3rd Down Back. Their TE [B]Paulson[/B] was way downfield blocking on plays and he can catch, too. I like him a lot.

[U]Wisconsin[/U]: The [I]only[/I] thing [B]Russell Wilson [/B]lacks is height. He is one heck of a player! I really liked OT [B]Ricky Wagner[/B]. He's big, tough, skilled, and he runs well. [B]Nick Toon [/B]is a big receiver who catches everything. He uses his size well to beat DB's. Toon may be underrated IMO because Wisconsin doesn't throw the ball very much. [B]Montee Ball [/B]is terrific but he said that he's not coming out.

[U]Michigan State[/U]: I liked what I saw in [B]Cousins[/B]. He showed me that he's at his best in the clutch. I like that a lot. I'd bet that he makes it in the pros. [B]Jerel Worthy [/B]looks like a pro DT to me.

[U]South Carolina[/U]: I love [B]Stephon Gilmore [/B]as a player. He's another player I'd like to see in B&G.

[U]Oklahoma State[/U]: Give me [B]Markelle Martin[/B]! He is a free safety with good size and speed. He covers a lot of ground, fast. But here's what I like about him the most: he hits people! Could we please have a FS who wants to hit somebody? He could wear the B&G, too, as far as I'm concerned. CB [B]Justin Gilbert [/B]looked like has talent, as well.

[U]Georgia[/U]: [B]Brandon Boykin [/B]is one heck of a player. He plays CB/RB/PR/KR for the Bulldogs. All-Purpose should be his middle name.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;873916]Haven't seen many Bowl games this year but a few players caught my eye. I'll refrain from comment on the usual suspects for the most part but I'll mention a couple of them.

For [U]Oregon[/U], most of the players who caught my eye were underclassmen (Boyett, Alonzo, Tuinei). Watch out for them next season! [B]LeMichael James [/B]may be the most explosive player in college ball. I'd love to see him as our 3rd Down Back. Their TE [B]Paulson[/B] was way downfield blocking on plays and he can catch, too. I like him a lot.

[U]Wisconsin[/U]: The [I]only[/I] thing [B]Russell Wilson [/B]lacks is height. He is one heck of a player! I really liked OT [B]Ricky Wagner[/B]. He's big, tough, skilled, and he runs well. [B]Nick Toon [/B]is a big receiver who catches everything. He uses his size well to beat DB's. Toon may be underrated IMO because Wisconsin doesn't throw the ball very much. [B]Montee Ball [/B]is terrific but he said that he's not coming out.

[U]Michigan State[/U]: I liked what I saw in [B]Cousins[/B]. He showed me that he's at his best in the clutch. I like that a lot. I'd bet that he makes it in the pros. [B]Jerel Worthy [/B]looks like a pro DT to me.

[U]South Carolina[/U]: I love [U][B]Stephon Gilmore [/B][/U]as a player. He's another player I'd like to see in B&G.

[U]Oklahoma State[/U]: Give me [U][B]Markelle Martin[/B][/U]! He is a free safety with good size and speed. He covers a lot of ground, fast. But here's what I like about him the most: he hits people! Could we please have a FS who wants to hit somebody? He could wear the B&G, too, as far as I'm concerned. CB [B]Justin Gilbert [/B]looked like has talent, as well.

[U]Georgia[/U]: [U][B]Brandon Boykin [/B][/U]is one heck of a player. He plays CB/RB/PR/KR for the Bulldogs. All-Purpose should be his middle name.[/quote]
Yes, I agree with these three guys, but especially Markell Martin, guy is the best FS in this years darft and is very physical like a SS. He reminds me of a young Donovan Darius/Deon Grant type of FS. With OJ being bad, and DeJon being a work in progress, and Landry uncertain of his return next year, we need a guy like this.

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David DeCastro, Jonathan Martin, Terrance Ganaway.

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[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/tony_pauline/01/09/bcs.national.championship.game.prospects/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a8]LSU, Alabama loaded with NFL prospects in BCS National Championship Game - Tony Pauline - SI.com[/url]

Heres a guy we should get from APP St. he's going to be coached by Shanahan and he's 6'5 230 with 4.5 speed [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh5X0_c1DZo]Brian Quick 2011 Highlights WR Appalachian State - YouTube[/url]

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I hope everyone here watched Bama (and some of LSU's) defense tonight. They looked like an NFL defense going against a college offense.

Courtney Upshaw DE/OLB
Donta Hightower ILB
Dre Kirkpatrick CB
Dequan Menzie CB
Robert Lester S
Mark Baron S
Gentry DE
Chapman NT
That defense is all future nfl players, and should be skins possibilities (especially the secondary, DE, and Hightower)

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[quote=CultBrennan59;874467]I hope everyone here watched Bama (and some of LSU's) defense tonight. They looked like an NFL defense going against a college offense.

Courtney Upshaw DE/OLB
Donta Hightower ILB
Dre Kirkpatrick CB
Dequan Menzie CB
Robert Lester S
Mark Baron S
Gentry DE
Chapman NT
That defense is all future nfl players, and should be skins possibilities (especially the secondary, DE, and Hightower)[/quote]

LSU's defense is insane as well.

Claiborne
Mathieu

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Sunday is the deadline for underclassmen to declare for the draft.

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[quote=redsk1;874573]LSU's defense is insane as well.

Claiborne
Mathieu[/quote]

Yes to claiborne

no to mathieu, he got targeted the whole game last night and showed why his size will be a factor in the nfl, he's too small.

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Peter Konz, Center, Wisconsin has declared for the draft. He is considered the best Center to come out since Nick Mangold.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;874632]Yes to claiborne

no to mathieu, he got targeted the whole game last night and showed why his size will be a factor in the nfl, he's too small.[/quote]
I'll agree that Mathieu had a rough night, but before last nights game, I was convinced he had the most talent of any player in the nation at his position. This guy is a GAMER, he'll go first round.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;874709]Peter Konz, Center, Wisconsin has declared for the draft. He is considered the best Center to come out since Nick Mangold.[/quote]
Unfair that all the good guards/centers are left for the elite teams haha.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;874632]Yes to claiborne

no to mathieu, he got targeted the whole game last night and showed why his size will be a factor in the nfl, he's too small.[/quote]

Well you're insane if you say Mathieu can't play at the next level.

Also

Baker
Brockers
Montgomery
Reid
Taylor
Simon
Brooks

Both D's are sick.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;874718][B]Well you're insane if you say Mathieu can't play at the next level.[/B]

Also

Baker
Brockers
Montgomery
Reid
Taylor
Simon
Brooks

Both D's are sick.[/quote]

He can play, just can't start on a defense unless the team opens up in nickel. People were asking me and other draft analysts where I'd put him, I'll say 2-3, I've only seen one other analyst that would put him in the first round and that was the late first, by Matt Miller. Definitely not worth a first round pick for a nickle back/RS.

And LSU's defense is great, with great players, I was just focusing on Bama's because their guys stuck out a lot more last night, and because they won.

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RGIII declares for draft.

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/id/7447477/2012-nfl-draft-qb-robert-griffin-iii-telling-baylor-bears-going-pro]2012 NFL draft -- QB Robert Griffin III telling Baylor Bears he's going pro - ESPN[/url]

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Robert Lester Alabama S is Staying
Sam Montgomery DE LSU is Staying
Orson Charles TE Georgia is Going Pro

The Final Senior Bowl QB's are

North
Kellen Moore
Russell Wilson
Kirk Cousins

South (shanahans team)
Brandon Weeden
Ryan Lindley
Nick Foles

Tannehill is OUT for the senior bowl with a leg injury.

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Here is the Shrine Game Roster some good names there..
[url=http://www.shrinegame.com/en/Teams/2012Roster.aspx]2012 Roster[/url]

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I went to "Thehogs.net" and saw someone had written this...

[url=http://www.thehogs.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=37458]Washington Redskins scouts have been really busy this season[/url]

I like who they are looking at the small school level and especially one name struck me...

Jared Green, WR, Southern - the son of HOF Darrell Green, this kid is a burner, he ran a 4.3 at the HBCU Bowl, a burner for real

[url=http://www.optimumscouting.com/draft/articles/diamond-in-the-rough-jared-green-wr-southern.html]Diamond in the Rough: Jared Green, WR, Southern | Articles[/url]
[/QUOTE]

We gotta get him. Aleast bring him on board and see what we can do with him for his fathers sake. Hell he runs a 4.3/40. I also loved what his HC Stump Mitchell had to say about him...
[QUOTE]“I wish I could have had someone with that type of speed for all four years," Stump said. "We could have had something special.”[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]“You have to get the ball up in the air quickly, because he is so fast," Mitchell said. "We missed some opportunities this year because of his quickness. They won’t have that problem with him at the next level.”
[/QUOTE]

This from D.Green....

[QUOTE]“There is no human in the world that played CB longer than me." Darrell Green said. "I am the only human living that played 20 years at cornerback, when I judge him, I judge him fairly, and critical, he should have an excellent career. He is not perfect, but he is equally to most of the receivers I played against in the 20 years."

[/QUOTE]

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I also liked this one....

Rico Wallace, WR Shenandoah University - 6'3, 210 pound WR who can catch away from his body, [B]Joe Jacoby says he is like Art Monk, Jacoby is his coach at Shenandoah [/B]
[url=http://www.optimumscouting.com/scout-s-notes/articles/diamond-in-the-rough-rico-wallace-wr-shenandoah.html]Diamond in the Rough: Rico Wallace, WR, Shenandoah | Articles[/url]

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[quote=SBXVII;874995]I went to "Thehogs.net" and saw someone had written this...

[url=http://www.thehogs.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=37458]Washington Redskins scouts have been really busy this season[/url]

I like who they are looking at the small school level and especially one name struck me...

Jared Green, WR, Southern - the son of HOF Darrell Green, this kid is a burner, he ran a 4.3 at the HBCU Bowl, a burner for real

[url=http://www.optimumscouting.com/draft/articles/diamond-in-the-rough-jared-green-wr-southern.html]Diamond in the Rough: Jared Green, WR, Southern | Articles[/url]
[/quote]

We gotta get him. Aleast bring him on board and see what we can do with him for his fathers sake. Hell he runs a 4.3/40. I also loved what his HC Stump Mitchell had to say about him...




This from D.Green....[/QUOTE]

Jared is a great kid. I know him from his high school days at Oakton. He wasn't that highly recruited coming out of high school because his offense his school ran was the power option. He definitely has talent. When I interviewed him he had an AJ Green like catch over a defender catching the ball behind the defenders back.

His knock/weakness is two things;

- He is frail, probably 165lbs the last time I saw him when he was at UVA.
- He has Hankerson hands. Meaning he'll make an amazing catch one play where it's like 'how did he catch that' to the next play where he's wide open and the ball hits him in the hands and he just drops it.

He definitely has potential with some great NFL bloodlines, that will train him well. I wouldn't get him for more than a 7th rounder though.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;874998]We gotta get him. Aleast bring him on board and see what we can do with him for his fathers sake. Hell he runs a 4.3/40. I also loved what his HC Stump Mitchell had to say about him...




This from D.Green....[/quote]

Jared is a great kid. I know him from his high school days at Oakton. He wasn't that highly recruited coming out of high school because his offense his school ran was the power option. He definitely has talent. When I interviewed him he had an AJ Green like catch over a defender catching the ball behind the defenders back.

His knock/weakness is two things;

- He is frail, probably 165lbs the last time I saw him when he was at UVA.
- He has Hankerson hands. Meaning he'll make an amazing catch one play where it's like 'how did he catch that' to the next play where he's wide open and the ball hits him in the hands and he just drops it.

He definitely has potential with some great NFL bloodlines, that will train him well. I wouldn't get him for more than a 7th rounder though.[/QUOTE]

Either keep him with his size and use him as the speed guy down the field along with AA or get him in the gym and bulk him up a little and see if he can be another possession WR.

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[QUOTE]- He is frail, probably 165lbs the last time I saw him when he was at UVA.
- He has Hankerson hands. Meaning he'll make an amazing catch one play where it's like 'how did he catch that' to the next play where he's wide open and the ball hits him in the hands and he just drops it.
[/QUOTE]

Well with two guys we might have twice the "how did he catch that?"
and
You mentioned he was 165lbs, the article has him at 184lbs now so he's gotten a little weight behind him since he was at UVA.

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Russell Shepard WR LSU is going pro
[url=http://lsu.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1317578]TigerBait.com - Shepard puts name in NFL draft[/url]

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I feel like Shep should go back to school but LSU is misusing him badly.

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[quote=SBXVII;874995]I went to "Thehogs.net" and saw someone had written this...

[URL="http://www.thehogs.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=37458"]Washington Redskins scouts have been really busy this season[/URL]

I like who they are looking at the small school level and especially one name struck me...

Jared Green, WR, Southern - the son of HOF Darrell Green, this kid is a burner, he ran a 4.3 at the HBCU Bowl, a burner for real

[URL="http://www.optimumscouting.com/draft/articles/diamond-in-the-rough-jared-green-wr-southern.html"]Diamond in the Rough: Jared Green, WR, Southern | Articles[/URL]
[/quote]

We gotta get him. Aleast bring him on board and see what we can do with him for his fathers sake. Hell he runs a 4.3/40. I also loved what his HC Stump Mitchell had to say about him...




This from D.Green....[/QUOTE]

Jared Green is a good kid, but couldn't get on the field at UVA. Just cause he's DG's kid doesn't mean he's NFL caliber.

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[quote=redsk1;875148]We gotta get him. Aleast bring him on board and see what we can do with him for his fathers sake. Hell he runs a 4.3/40. I also loved what his HC Stump Mitchell had to say about him...




This from D.Green....[/quote]

Jared Green is a good kid, but couldn't get on the field at UVA. Just cause he's DG's kid [B]doesn't mean he's NFL caliber.[/[/B]QUOTE]

[quote]Jared had a career year with Southern, as he hauled in 17 receptions for 307 yards and 2 touchdowns. He really has a good first step and is able to break on routes at the right time. He is not afraid to go across the middle and make a snag.[B] He has good hands and is hard to cover on double moves, because of his speed burst. He was able to showcase that speed at the HBCU Bowl in late December and proved how difficult he is to cover.

[/B]“You have to get the ball up in the air quickly, because he is so fast," Mitchell said. "We missed some opportunities this year because of his quickness. [B]They won’t have that problem with him at the next level[/B].” [/quote]