Big Game QB with 2 Minutes Left
 

With all the inevitable, and probably appropriate, comparisons of Tom Brady to Joe Montana I'm wondering which QB (from all time) would you guys want on your team down by 6, at your own 10, in the Super Bowl with 2 minutes left?

Elway, no doubt

John Elway was the King of the 2 Minute Drive. I'd take him to direct a 2 minute drill every day of the week, twice on Sunday, and never look back. Not to displace Montana, Favre, Brady, et al., but Elway was magical. When the pressure was on, he stepped up brillantly.

Marino!

Danny Wuerfel!

Nah just playin. I gotta go w/ Joe Montana. I grew up watching him and I will never forget that drive against the Bengals.

John Elway is the comeback king, but Joe Montana in my opinion is the better all around quarterback. I hated the 49ers but always enjoyed watching him play....he always seemed calm cool and collected!

John Elway. I agree w/ skinsguy, if I had to pick a QB to build my team with, I'd pick Montana, but if I'm down 6 from my own 10 w/ 2:00 left... you gotta take Elway, no doubt.

Joe Cool all the way.

Brady is quickly becoming a close second though.

I was never a huge fan of Elway.

I'm gonna take the new school in Brady. The man can just flat out get it done.

Montana. Always came through in the clutch and never threw an int in the playoffs.

Actually, I might take Manning!

Joe Montana lived for the 2 min drill!! Brady has been the best since Montana. But He needs to keep it up for a few more years.
John Elway was great. But He didn't win sh-t untill Terrell Davis showed up.And Farve is amazing but throws way to many pic's to be a great 2 min drill QB.
I would rate them
#1 Motana
#2 Brady
#3 Elway
#4 Farve
But really there all H.O.F'ers I would take all of them over any of are old QB's!!!

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If I could take one QB in his prime to build a team around, it's gotta be Montana hands down. Best QB to have played the game IMO.

[QUOTE=irish]Montana. Always came through in the clutch and never threw an int in the playoffs.[/QUOTE]
never threw an INT in the Super Bowl...but did throw plenty of INTs during the playoffs

Montana Postseason Stats (23 games, 16-7 W-L Record):
463-732 (63%), 5772 yds, 44 TDs, 21 INTs (2 Rushing TDs)

Elway Postseason Stats (22 games, 14-8 W-L Record):
355-650 (55%), 4964 yds, 27 TDs, 21 INTs (6 Rushing TDs)

As others have said, if I had to build a team, I'd take Montana hands down. However, with the game on the line, no one did more times than Elway.
[url=http://profootballhof.com/enshrinement/release.jsp?release_id=1209]Calling Elway Mr. Comeback[/url]

matter of opinion of course...can claim plenty for both...

I went with Brady I believe when it's all said and done he will be considered the best of all time he is Montana like, with a better arm, the other's where probably more gifted physically but they didn't have the smart's that Montana, or Brady possess, Montana was a benefactor of the west coast offense and Bill Walsh, we have seen QB after QB become all pro's in that san fran system and do nothing else where, we have seen Bledsoe fail in New England, and Brady prosper. Brady is a special QB I would take him in any offensive situation on the field.

my list would montana, brady, leftwhich, elway, then others

[QUOTE=offiss]I went with Brady I believe when it's all said and done he will be considered the best of all time he is Montana like, with a better arm, the other's where probably more gifted physically but they didn't have the smart's that Montana, or Brady possess, Montana was a benefactor of the west coast offense and Bill Walsh, we have seen QB after QB become all pro's in that san fran system and do nothing else where, we have seen Bledsoe fail in New England, and Brady prosper. Brady is a special QB I would take him in any offensive situation on the field.[/QUOTE]

In the golden years of Montana when he went to Kansas City, I thought he had some decent success....I mean no Super bowl's but I believe he did get the Chiefs to the AFC Championship didn't he? Being that He played under Marty....we can all assume that wasn't a West Coast offense.

[QUOTE=offiss]I went with Brady I believe when it's all said and done he will be considered the best of all time he is Montana like, with a better arm, the other's where probably more gifted physically but they didn't have the smart's that Montana, or Brady possess, Montana was a benefactor of the west coast offense and Bill Walsh, we have seen QB after QB become all pro's in that san fran system and do nothing else where, we have seen Bledsoe fail in New England, and Brady prosper. Brady is a special QB I would take him in any offensive situation on the field.[/QUOTE]

So, do you think Charlie Weiss' impact will have a minimal impact on Tom Brady and the rest of the Pats' offense?

[QUOTE=smootsmack]So, do you think Charlie Weiss' impact will have a minimal impact on Tom Brady and the rest of the Pats' offense?[/QUOTE]


I do feel it will be minimal, I feel the new england cooridinators are a product of Belichik they run what Belichik want's, especially on the defensive side of the ball if you saw late in the pittsburg game it was Belichik reeming some player's on the field on the defensive end about there positioning not Romeo, I believe the buck stop's with Belichik, but like any QB he need's the right coaches and player's around him to succeed, if Marino played for Gibb's his whole carreer we would be saying without a doubt [IMO] that he was the greatest of all time, so a lot of thing's factor into a QB's success but I feel Brady is and has been the best at capitalizing on his situation he's not a short passing game QB like Montana, he can throw the deep ball as accurate as anyone in the game, and does so regularly, as well as making every clutch throw that is presented to him, I look for him to destroy Philli next sunday.

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I worded that wrong. I meant to say will Charlie Weiss' departure have a minimal impact on Brady and the rest of the Pats' offense

But I think you answered the question Offiss, and you're right Brady's deep ball is one of the best in the league

If I want a field general to lead the troops with 2:00, I want Montana. If I need a hero to take it on himself to win with 2:00, I go with Farve. I loved watching Elway too, and he's a field general, but my vote goes to Joe Montana

[QUOTE=smootsmack]I worded that wrong. I meant to say will Charlie Weiss' departure have a minimal impact on Brady and the rest of the Pats' offense

But I think you answered the question Offiss, and you're right Brady's deep ball is one of the best in the league[/QUOTE]

I think with Weiss and Romeo gone next season, we'll see where the genius of the Pats is. Is it really Bellicheck (remember the Browns) or did he surround himself with great coordinators.

I'm going with coordinators. He's a good coach, but those coordinators are great, and I'm absolutely shocked they lasted as long as they did!

[QUOTE=Daseal]I'm going with coordinators. He's a good coach, but those coordinators are great, and I'm absolutely shocked they lasted as long as they did![/QUOTE]


These guy's have been in coaching a long time, I think it's ironic that only now under Belechik have they blossomed, and that is part of the reasn they have lasted as long as they have to many executives in the NFL believe they are a product of Belechik and not the other way around. The Brown's will find out the hard way, as for Notre Dame? College is all about recruiting so if the guy can recruit he will do well dropping into the college rank's from the NFL doesn't exactly scream success as a coach, it's usually reserved for the coaches who can't get it done on the pro level.

I wouldn't underestimate the impact that Belichick's coordinators have had. I think both Weiss and Crennel are going to be quality head coaches and they both will be difficult to replace.

I think Belichick is a lot like Gibbs in how he surrounds himself with great coordinators and let's them run their respective units how they see fit. That's not to take anything away from Belichick, but I really think losing those guys next year is going to be a huge adjustment for the Patriots.

I bet Crenell does better in Cleveland than Bellichek did.

Only time will tell.

How could you leave Ramsey off that list? He gets my vote. Lol.

Joe Montana. He was so cool that on the field for the last drive to beat the Bengals in the Super Bowl, he took the time to point out to a teammate where John Candy was sitting in the stands!

Montana. The guy had ice water flowing through his veins. I have never seen a 5ft something QB so cool with guys diving at him. Protecting the QB was not the referee's job so much back then either.
Elway was great, but had that thin air at Mile high stadium that would suck the life out off the opposing d all game long. He had a little home field advantage that would show up at the end of the game.

I would have to go with Brady. Not to take anything away from those other great Quarterbacks, but the defenses that Brady face these days and the prevent defense becoming extinct in many of the attack defenses currently being used.
How many games have the redskins lost due to the prevent, not very hard for a quarteback with any skills to pick that apart and drive down the field? TOO MANY!!
I love Gregg Williams philosophy of no prevent!!!

I've hated elway but he was without a doubt the best qb with the ball and around 2 minutes to go and a few points down. Plus he did what he did without anywhere near the resources that Montana did and for that reason I'd put Brady 2nd. and all this talk about building a team, if I could start with one qb it'd have to be marino cuz there hasn't been a better pure pocket passer than him and it's kinda scary thinking about how many SB's Miami could have gone to and won if they had a top 10 rb. Plus I could be wrong but Marino amassed all of his numbers without a super star quality wr, cuz as good as clayton, duper, and irving were, they weren't top of the line kind of wrs.

[QUOTE=skinsfanthru&thru]I've hated elway but he was without a doubt the best qb with the ball and around 2 minutes to go and a few points down. Plus he did what he did without anywhere near the resources that Montana did and for that reason I'd put Brady 2nd. and all this talk about building a team, if I could start with one qb it'd have to be marino cuz there hasn't been a better pure pocket passer than him and it's kinda scary thinking about how many SB's Miami could have gone to and won if they had a top 10 rb. Plus I could be wrong but Marino amassed all of his numbers without a super star quality wr, cuz as good as clayton, duper, and irving were, they weren't top of the line kind of wrs.[/QUOTE]

It' interesting that you mention Marino and now he never got a ring because he was lacking a top RB. What if Elway had never gotten Terrell Davis? I don't want to take anything away from Elway, but what if he didn't get those rings at the twilight of his career (largely thanks to TD). I think the gap between him and Marino and possibly even Jim Kelly would be a lot closer.

I'd take Montana. My sleeper pick would be Phil Simms (even though he was a rival, he could get it done)

I'll take Montana. The others were good, but he was the best I saw. Not to mention he's a Notre Dame boy.

Brady actually reminds me a lot of him.

[QUOTE=Shane]Joe Montana. He was so cool that on the field for the last drive to beat the Bengals in the Super Bowl, he took the time to point out to a teammate where John Candy was sitting in the stands![/QUOTE]I saw that on espn. It was the first huddle to start the drive and he started with where John Canndy was sitting to loosen up a tence offence. It worked!