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Mike Lombardi Links Kyle Orton to the Redskins
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/michael-lombardi-links-redskins-with-kyle-orton/2012/02/03/gIQAz1bEnQ_blog.html?wprss=dc-sports-bog]Michael Lombardi links Redskins with Kyle Orton - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post[/url]
Kyle Orton's a big enough name to get his own thread, right? If not, please merge. |
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Not sure how I feel about Orton/insert 2nd tier qb here. Luck/RG3/Bradford or bust! Although if the Orton plan happens, I'll warm up to it eventually. It's in my nature as a Skins fan.
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It's worth pointing out that if the Redskins really thought Orton could have improved the 2011 team, they could have had him.
It's also worth pointing out the chatter is going to link the Redskins to every quarterback at some point. |
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[quote=GTripp0012;881610]It's worth pointing out that if the Redskins really thought Orton could have improved the 2011 team, they could have had him.
It's also worth pointing out the chatter is going to link the Redskins to every quarterback at some point.[/quote] I would be very comfortable with this as a smoke screen. |
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Worth noting here that Lombardi refers to "Senior Bowl chatter". He didn't quote a source - named or unnamed - he just said Orton to the Redskins was the chatter at the Senior Bowl.
So is that chatter as speculation amongst league execs, or is that chatter coming right out of the Shanahans, or what. The nature of the source is key to lending legitimacy to the rumor. From what Lombardi said here I don't get the sense this is a rumor that has a lot of legs. |
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I'm not surprised since we gave Denver a call when it was made known they were shopping him. If we pick him up, you can forget trading up for RGIII. This means we'll be moving back and picking up a developmental QB.
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I for one hope this is the one and only Kyle Orton thread in the history of the Warpath...
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As long as the plan still involves drafting a QB, I've got no problem with looking at Orton as a short term starter or backup.
I think the time has come to move on from Rex completely. |
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I hope that Kyle Orton has no effect on us getting a good QB high in the draft..
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[quote=Schneed10;881614]Worth noting here that Lombardi refers to "Senior Bowl chatter". He didn't quote a source - named or unnamed - he just said Orton to the Redskins was the chatter at the Senior Bowl.
So is that chatter as speculation amongst league execs, or is that chatter coming right out of the Shanahans, or what. The nature of the source is key to lending legitimacy to the rumor. From what Lombardi said here I don't get the sense this is a rumor that has a lot of legs.[/quote]League execs are linking the Redskins to all sorts of veterans, because it would seem implausible that the Redskins can acquire a rookie who they feel confident in leaving their jobs in the hands of. So based on that logic, I would just assume the source of the Orton rumors are coming from outside the Redskins organization. You can pretty much replace Orton with any of the following: Chad Henne/Rex Grossman/Alex Smith/Sage Rosenfels/Brady Quinn/Shaun Hill and have a pretty good idea of where the Redskins are going to go this offseason. They're going to kick the tires on Hoyer, et al, and if they can't pry him/them loose with minimal draft pick involvement, it's going to be a veteran. Orton is the biggest name on that list, but I wouldn't rule out the newfound credibility an Alex Smith signing could bring if the idea is to buy as much time as possible with an offseason move. Smith isn't a flashy name, but his stock has never been higher. |
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This is old news. We already talked about it this morning. The real story...Plaxico telling LaVar that he thinks Drew Brees will be a Redskin!
Oh that Plax and his shoot from the hip comments |
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Hmmmm......I think he's had a few already. I better text my man Plax back and tell him I can't make it for drinks tonight.....
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I remember watching the Denver/SD game early in the season. I thought Orton played well, but his receivers and the defense were playing like crap. Personally, I don't think getting Orton will prevent us for going after Luck or RG3.
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[quote=SmootSmack;881626]This is old news. We already talked about it this morning. The real story...Plaxico telling LaVar that he thinks Drew Brees will be a Redskin!
Oh that Plax and his shoot from the hip comments[/quote]I think Plax just wants to be quarterback of the Saints. |
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Orton is better than Grossman? That would be like junking my current hooptie to buy another piece of shit car off craigslist for $800. What's the use?
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[quote=Mattyk;881620]As long as the plan still involves drafting a QB, I've got no problem with looking at Orton as a short term starter or backup.
I think the time has come to move on from Rex completely.[/quote] Orton's really not any better than Grossman. Plus he doesn't know our offense. No thanks. |
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[quote=celts32;881617]I for one hope this is the one and only Kyle Orton thread in the history of the Warpath...[/quote]
Exactly. Denver dumped him for Tim Tebow. Nuff' said. |
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[quote=GTripp0012;881623]League execs are linking the Redskins to all sorts of veterans, because it would seem implausible that the Redskins can acquire a rookie who they feel confident in leaving their jobs in the hands of. So based on that logic, I would just assume the source of the Orton rumors are coming from outside the Redskins organization.
You can pretty much replace Orton with any of the following: Chad Henne/Rex Grossman/Alex Smith/Sage Rosenfels/Brady Quinn/Shaun Hill and have a pretty good idea of where the Redskins are going to go this offseason. They're going to kick the tires on Hoyer, et al, and if they can't pry him/them loose with minimal draft pick involvement, it's going to be a veteran. Orton is the biggest name on that list, but I wouldn't rule out the newfound credibility an Alex Smith signing could bring if the idea is to buy as much time as possible with an offseason move. Smith isn't a flashy name, but his stock has never been higher.[/quote] Henne is the only guy that I would look at. And I find it hard to believe that Miami's just going to let him walk. Especially if they're going to run Green Bay's style of offense. |
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[quote=skinsfan69;881649]Henne is the only guy that I would look at. And I find it hard to believe that Miami's just going to let him walk. Especially if they're going to run Green Bay's style of offense.[/quote]Yeah, well, their loss.
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[quote=skinsfan69;881642]Orton's really not any better than Grossman. Plus he doesn't know our offense. No thanks.[/quote]
His numbers prove otherwise, but ok |
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GTripp alluded to this earlier, but if we had true interest, wouldn't we claimed Orton off waivers?
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Let the newest rumor fly
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[quote=Mattyk;881660]His numbers prove otherwise, but ok[/quote]
OK. He's a very small upgrade. |
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[quote=skinsfan69;881642]Orton's really not any better than Grossman. Plus he doesn't know our offense. No thanks.[/quote]
They both SUCK!!! Just ask the Chicago Bears who couldn't decide which one sucked less. I want a real QB in town not a pretend filler. |
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We are going to need a backup guys, hopefully one not named Grossman.
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He's better then Rex...but if our upgrade at QB still leaves us with the worst QB in the NFC East is it really the right choice?
Orton + a rookie other then Luck or Griffin is not good enough. |
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[quote=celts32;881671]He's better then Rex...but if our upgrade at QB still leaves us with the worst QB in the NFC East is it really the right choice?
Orton + a rookie other then Luck or Griffin is not good enough.[/quote] How about Orton and Luck or Griffin? |
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[quote=celts32;881671]He's better then Rex...but if our upgrade at QB still leaves us with the worst QB in the NFC East is it really the right choice?
[B]Orton + a rookie other then Luck or Griffin is not good enough.[/B][/quote] I hope MS has a better plan, but this would be an improvement over Grossman/Beck. [quote=Mattyk;881672]How about Orton and Luck or Griffin?[/quote] Exactly. |
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Orton = Grossman in my book. Gets drafted by the Bears and doesn't turn out to be a franchise QB, gets traded to the Bronco's and does not do very well turns out he's not a franchise QB otherwise they would not have traded him to KC where amazingly enough turns out he was not their answer to having a franchise QB.
I don't t see the novelty and hope the coaching staff does not either. |
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[quote=SmootSmack;881626]This is old news. We already talked about it this morning. The real story...Plaxico telling LaVar that he thinks Drew Brees will be a Redskin!
Oh that Plax and his shoot from the hip comments[/quote] We all know Plax is a straight shooter. He never likes to tease, and his comments are fully loaded. If he says it it must be true. |
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[quote=Mattyk;881672]How about Orton and Luck or Griffin?[/quote]
I'd be fine with that, because you know if Luck or Griffin was here they'd be starting from day one. |
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[quote=Mattyk;881672]How about Orton and Luck or Griffin?[/quote]
I'll have this dinner combo, please. |
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[quote=Ruhskins;881630]I remember watching the Denver/SD game early in the season. I thought Orton played well, but his receivers and the defense were playing like crap. Personally, I don't think getting Orton will prevent us for going after Luck or RG3.[/quote]
I don't know about this Orton thing. The Post BOG sounded more comedic than serious. Neverhteless, I have two or three posts that say repeatedly the Redskins need two QBs. We need a FA and we need to draft a QB. I'm no insider like some of you guys, but I really believe that is what will happen (a FA signing and drafting a rookie QB). Several of you have posted comments similar to mine, and the media information seems to suggest that something like that will happen. Having said that, the combinations of FA and draftee QBs are too numerous to rehash here. But if Redskins decide to sign Orton and play him six-eight games while the rookie learns, I'm totally OK with that. This speculation is fun and causes me to read the paperrs more, but I am really ready for some stone-cold hard facts to emerge! |
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[quote=mooby;881611]I would be very comfortable with this as a smoke screen.[/quote]
My thinking exactly. |
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Ok, so who [I][B]aren't[/B] [/I]we linked with.
Thats what I thought. |
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Kevin O'Connoll
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[quote=Alvin Walton;881693]Ok, so who [I][B]aren't[/B] [/I]we linked with.
Thats what I thought.[/quote] Guess we could bring back Gus Frerotte, or even better, we could bring Sonny down from the booth!:laughing- |
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[quote=SmootSmack;881697]Kevin O'Connoll[/quote]
Give it time. |
I was a big supporter of KO coming last year but now I want RG3 or luck
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[quote=Mattyk;881672]How about Orton and Luck or Griffin?[/quote]
Love it...but with Luck I wouldn't even care who the bridge QB is because I would hope he would start from day 1. |
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