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12thMan 02-09-2012 05:09 PM

US To Build 2 Nuclear Reactors: First in 30 yrs
 
[url=http://www.marketwatch.com/story/united-states-re-enters-the-nuclear-age-2012-02-09?dist=afterbell]United States re-enters the nuclear age - MarketWatch First Take - MarketWatch[/url]

FRPLG 02-09-2012 08:25 PM

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Bout damn time

That Guy 02-09-2012 10:46 PM

Re: US To Build 2 Nuclear Reactors: First in 30 yrs
 
finally. now just lay the pipeline and maybe eventually we'll find a way to energy independence and stop paying money to people who hate us.

saden1 02-10-2012 12:53 PM

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Yes, about time. So long as it isn't in my backyard I'm cool with it.

firstdown 02-14-2012 03:09 PM

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[quote=saden1;883979]Yes, about time. So long as it isn't in my backyard I'm cool with it.[/quote]

We have one within 50 miles but don't ever give it any thought. I don't think I would care if one was within a few miles as long as I don't have to look at it.

Alvin Walton 02-14-2012 03:14 PM

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I'm still on the fence with this.
I desperately want to get off of fossil fuels but Fukushima scared the crap outa me.
And now that we have had recent quakes in Washington DC and northern Illinois I'm not sure there is a safe place for them anywhere.
I already have a couple near my backyard and dont really want any more.

[url=http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/nuclear_power_plants_locations/]How close is your home to a nuclear plant?[/url]

firstdown 02-14-2012 03:28 PM

Re: US To Build 2 Nuclear Reactors: First in 30 yrs
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;885403]I'm still on the fence with this.
I desperately want to get off of fossil fuels but Fukushima scared the crap outa me.
And now that we have had recent quakes in Washington DC and northern Illinois I'm not sure there is a safe place for them anywhere.
I already have a couple near my backyard and dont really want any more.

[URL="http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/nuclear_power_plants_locations/"]How close is your home to a nuclear plant?[/URL][/quote]

It was not the earthquake that caused the problem at Fukushima. It was the flooding of the pump stations that cause the problem.

Alvin Walton 02-14-2012 03:31 PM

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[quote=firstdown;885412]It was not the earthquake that caused the problem at Fukushima. It was the flooding of the pump stations that cause the problem.[/quote]

Earthquake > tsunami > flooding.

Shaking a nuke plant is a bad thing.
It will give you an orange afro and suck the paint off your house.

mredskins 02-14-2012 03:48 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;885416]Earthquake > tsunami > flooding.

Shaking a nuke plant is a bad thing.
It will give you an orange afro and suck the paint off your house.[/quote]


I love when firtdown argues with himself on here to throw cover that he is really not both Alvin Walton and firstdown.

Bravo, well played.

RedskinRat 02-14-2012 03:58 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;885416]It will give you an orange afro and suck the paint off your house.[/quote]


I want an orange afro!

CRedskinsRule 02-14-2012 04:15 PM

Re: US To Build 2 Nuclear Reactors: First in 30 yrs
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;885403]I'm still on the fence with this.
I desperately want to get off of fossil fuels but Fukushima scared the crap outa me.
And now that we have had recent quakes in Washington DC and northern Illinois I'm not sure there is a safe place for them anywhere.
I already have a couple near my backyard and dont really want any more.

[url=http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/nuclear_power_plants_locations/]How close is your home to a nuclear plant?[/url][/quote]

Fukushima was a major earthquake (beyond anything predicted for that area which is a hotbed of earthquake activity) incomparable to anything that would feasibly hit the mid-atlantic coast region, followed by a massive tsunami. Had it only been the earthquake, or tsunami, the plant's systems would not likely have failed. It is akin to fearing flying in airplanes because a single crash is usually spectacular, but hundreds of thousands of flights safely occur every year.

France has an incredible amount of stable nuclear reactors, with good regulations, we could do so much more but instead let activists misinform/frighten the general public with the exceptions.

Alvin Walton 02-14-2012 04:33 PM

Re: US To Build 2 Nuclear Reactors: First in 30 yrs
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;885454]Fukushima was a major earthquake (beyond anything predicted for that area which is a hotbed of earthquake activity) incomparable to anything that would feasibly hit the mid-atlantic coast region, followed by a massive tsunami. Had it only been the earthquake, or tsunami, the plant's systems would not likely have failed. It is akin to fearing flying in airplanes because a single crash is usually spectacular, but hundreds of thousands of flights safely occur every year.

France has an incredible amount of stable nuclear reactors, with good regulations, we could do so much more but instead let activists misinform/frighten the general public with the exceptions.[/quote]

I dont see how an aircraft in flight is comparable to a seismic event.

Activists didnt create the damage in Japan that any Joe can watch on YouTube. Thats just brutal reality

Mother nature does whatever she wants without warning.
Sometimes in a very unpredictable fashion.
Japan seriously underestimated what the earth can do.
An epicenter under a nuke plant would make any architect look like an amateur.

12thMan 02-14-2012 04:37 PM

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This is a really good thing; Hopefully more to come. On the heels of the Fukushima incident, our engineers should have sufficient insight into building safer reactors. Maybe two new reactors every 8 years through 2020?

MTK 02-14-2012 05:13 PM

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[quote=mredskins;885428]I love when firtdown argues with himself on here to throw cover that he is really not both Alvin Walton and firstdown.

Bravo, well played.[/quote]

:laughing2

firstdown 02-14-2012 05:39 PM

Re: US To Build 2 Nuclear Reactors: First in 30 yrs
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;885460]I dont see how an aircraft in flight is comparable to a seismic event.

Activists didnt create the damage in Japan that any Joe can watch on YouTube. Thats just brutal reality

Mother nature does whatever she wants without warning.
Sometimes in a very unpredictable fashion.
Japan seriously underestimated what the earth can do.
An epicenter under a nuke plant would make any architect look like an amateur.[/quote]

Well if your on the aircraft crashing I think it would compare just fine.

firstdown 02-14-2012 05:41 PM

Re: US To Build 2 Nuclear Reactors: First in 30 yrs
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;885416]Earthquake > tsunami > flooding.

Shaking a nuke plant is a bad thing.
It will give you an orange afro and suck the paint off your house.[/quote]

BTW how did you know I had an afro.

Alvin Walton 02-14-2012 05:51 PM

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[quote=firstdown;885486]BTW how did you know I had an afro.[/quote]

We're the same person, remember?

SmootSmack 02-14-2012 06:26 PM

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I think the real question is....who's going to be the safety inspector in sector 7 G?

CRedskinsRule 02-14-2012 08:40 PM

[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;885460]I dont see how an aircraft in flight is comparable to a seismic event.

Activists didnt create the damage in Japan that any Joe can watch on YouTube. Thats just brutal reality

Mother nature does whatever she wants without warning.
Sometimes in a very unpredictable fashion.
Japan seriously underestimated what the earth can do.
An epicenter under a nuke plant would make any architect look like an amateur.[/QUOTE]
Look at the usgs earthquake tracker that fault is the west pacific equivalent of the San Andreas fault in California. The fukushima plant was rated for an 8.8(I believe) vs the 9.0 that occurred. Japan is not the us they cant choose to put nuclear power plants in low risk zones.

CRedskinsRule 02-14-2012 08:57 PM

[URL]http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/static/gshap/[/URL]

Here is the probability map. Be interested to know which part of Japan matches the mid Atlantic region for seismic peace.

That Guy 02-15-2012 02:20 AM

Re: US To Build 2 Nuclear Reactors: First in 30 yrs
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;885537][url=http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/static/gshap/]index[/url]

Here is the probability map. Be interested to know which part of Japan matches the mid Atlantic region for seismic peace.[/quote]


the part that's in mainland china...

firstdown 02-20-2012 12:53 PM

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Now that the lawsuits have started to be filed in court how many years will it take to break ground?
My guess is 6 yrs.

[URL="http://www.startribune.com/nation/139458678.html"]Groups to file federal lawsuit to block construction of 2 nuclear reactors in eastern Georgia | StarTribune.com[/URL]

mooby 02-20-2012 01:05 PM

Re: US To Build 2 Nuclear Reactors: First in 30 yrs
 
[quote=firstdown;886983]Now that the lawsuits have started to be filed in court how many years will it take to break ground?
My guess is 6 yrs.

[URL="http://www.startribune.com/nation/139458678.html"]Groups to file federal lawsuit to block construction of 2 nuclear reactors in eastern Georgia | StarTribune.com[/URL][/quote]

Maybe so but at the same time all the lawsuits are asking is they wait to start building until safety changes made last year after the Japan disaster get approved. I don't think it will take 6 years to get those safety changes approved.

firstdown 02-20-2012 05:42 PM

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[quote=mooby;886985]Maybe so but at the same time all the lawsuits are asking is they wait to start building until safety changes made last year after the Japan disaster get approved. I don't think it will take 6 years to get those safety changes approved.[/quote]

Thats just one of the lawsuits being filed there are many more for different reasons.


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