How to get Gibbs motivated...
 

In his interview with the Washington Post, Gibbs seemed a little ticked off at the media in general. Personally, I think this is great for the team. Piss him off, it just motivates him more.

Yeah.....he did seem pretty fired up today.


I guess that's a good sign.

It is not quite February yet. Training camp does not start for another 5.5 months and the first game isn't for another 7 months and you're happy that Joe Gibbis is pissed off. If he stays that way all year, he might have an ulcer big enough to swallow a billiard ball by September.

He doesn't need any more motivation. Maybe you would prefer to believe that he will work even harder now - how about if he figures out a way to work 25 hours a day? - but I doubt that he is going to let a group of pencil-pushers at a couple of newspapers determine how he runs his life and his team.

Being in the NFL should be the only motivation one needs. It does after all stand for "Not For Long" if you're unmotivated individual.

SC: I think if he starts feeling the media heat, which won't really start until we have another offensive year like last, that it will force him into changing and making concessions he may not want to (see "shotgun formation.") The media can control what a coach does a bit. Sometimes unfortunate, but true.

I think Gibbs will definitely make changes this coming year...hopefully more passing deep downfield, but I wouldn't hold my breathe on the shotgun formation.

Skinsguy - I'm sure he'll make changes, I just hope his main change is not handcuffing the offense preaching turnovers constantly. I agree that you can't turn the ball over all the time and get away with it, but when you have a defense like ours, don't be afraid to get risky with playcalling on their side of the field. Try things, be aggressive, our defense, chances are, will stop them.

Man we MUST have a shotgun formation. After watching the playoff's it is absolutely obvious that almost every team has it and uses it a lot. This isn't high school football, put in the shotgun.

[QUOTE=skins009]Man we MUST have a shotgun formation. After watching the playoff's it is absolutely obvious that almost every team has it and uses it a lot. This isn't high school football, put in the shotgun.[/QUOTE]


I know it's not the 1980's or 1990's anymore, however Gibbs has won 3 Super Bowls without the shotgun formation...so I don't think it's really needed THAT much. The biggest thing is getting maximum pass protection.

Daseal - Yeah...we definitely need to get a little more aggressive with our offense while maintaining the integerity of this offensive system. Now, since Ramsey is obviously comfortable with the system and hopefully our WR's will be more competent in catching the ball, I think you'll see a vast improvement of the offense. I'm sure there will be a few more wrinkles in the system or maybe the use of plays that were already in the system this past season, but not used very much. Again though, I don't expect a huge change in offensive philosophy this coming season.

[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon]It is not quite February yet. Training camp does not start for another 5.5 months and the first game isn't for another 7 months and you're happy that Joe Gibbis is pissed off. If he stays that way all year, he might have an ulcer big enough to swallow a billiard ball by September.

He doesn't need any more motivation. Maybe you would prefer to believe that he will work even harder now - how about if he figures out a way to work 25 hours a day? - but I doubt that he is going to let a group of pencil-pushers at a couple of newspapers determine how he runs his life and his team.[/QUOTE]

Dear SC -

Whooooaaaaaa. No need to unload both barrels on me. Jeez.

Yes. you're right the season is a long way off. Yes - Gibbs already works damn hard. But, perhaps, just perhaps, as Daseal pointed out, Gibbs will take another look at things to try and get a different perspective.

Perhaps you misunderstand. I am just glad to see the fire and sincere desire to improve - it was reassuring to see JG firing back at the bull the press were slinging.

It really was meant as a positive post - no need to get all curmudgeonly.

Let me ask you guys a question. I'm sure some awnsers will be biased, some what people really belive. I think this could be motivation.

If Joe Gibbs wins a Superbowl with the Redskins before he re-retires. Is he the greatest Coach of all time?

I think that would definitely push him closer to the top, if not at the very top.

Yes and they should Rename the trophy to the GIBBS TROPHY. Also Gibbs DOES NOT LIKE the shotgun one bit, he tried it once and the snap went over the qbs head and he said THAT IS IT WITH THE SHOTGUN. I forget exactly when this happened but remember reading about it during training camp last year. it was during his last coaching term with the skins.

I think he would be! Even though Dick Vermil cameback and won a Super Bowl...GIbbs would be the first to comeback and win a Super Bowl after being sucessful in his previous tenure....

[QUOTE=skinsguy]I know it's not the 1980's or 1990's anymore, however Gibbs has won 3 Super Bowls without the shotgun formation...so I don't think it's really needed THAT much. The biggest thing is getting maximum pass protection.

Daseal - Yeah...we definitely need to get a little more aggressive with our offense while maintaining the integerity of this offensive system. Now, since Ramsey is obviously comfortable with the system and hopefully our WR's will be more competent in catching the ball, I think you'll see a vast improvement of the offense. I'm sure there will be a few more wrinkles in the system or maybe the use of plays that were already in the system this past season, but not used very much. Again though, I don't expect a huge change in offensive philosophy this coming season.[/QUOTE]

I know he won Super Bowls then, but even he said that the game has changed a lot since he last coached with particular reference to the way teams blitz. I think that the shotgun formation might be beneficial to allowing Ramsey to go downfield more.

[QUOTE=skinsguy]I think he would be! Even though Dick Vermil cameback and won a Super Bowl...GIbbs would be the first to comeback and win a Super Bowl after being sucessful in his previous tenure....[/QUOTE]

I understand your point, but Vermil only wishes he had the success that Gibbs has achieved in the NFL. Vermil has nothing on Gibbs. Gibbs had more success within his first 2 years, than Vermil had in his whole career.

Most definitely. Vermeil is a great coach but not quite in the same class as Gibbs.

Shall we average PPG? If Vermeil had Williams I think they woulda gone to the big dance this year, or at least gotten damn close!

I'm not saying Vermeil is better than Gibbs, but he's certainly doing better right now.

Best all-time. I don't know if I'd say that yet. If he wins another SB convincingly he may be, but I'm not sure if that's me or my bias talking...

[QUOTE=Daseal]Shall we average PPG? If Vermeil had Williams I think they woulda gone to the big dance this year, or at least gotten damn close!

I'm not saying Vermeil is better than Gibbs, but he's certainly doing better right now.

Best all-time. I don't know if I'd say that yet. If he wins another SB convincingly he may be, but I'm not sure if that's me or my bias talking...[/QUOTE]

I dont think that having Williams would have made the difference for KC. He would have deffinatly up graded their D but I dont think that KC's D has the talent that ours had when Williams came on.

Also, the only bad situation that Vermeil was put in was when he took over the Rams. When he went to KC all he did was bring in Green to give them a passing attack, Holmes was already there. Vermeil needs to be better than 6-5 in post season with ONLY 1 SB.

IMO, Gibbs is the closest coach to the Lombardi level this game has seen since Lombardi.

I'm almost positive that Vermeil got to KC before Holmes. Though it might have been a matter of both coming during the same offseason

But I would agree that when you look at the bigger picture, not just 2004, Vermeil doesn't come close to Gibbs

[QUOTE=smootsmack]I'm almost positive that Vermeil got to KC before Holmes. Though it might have been a matter of both coming during the same offseason

But I would agree that when you look at the bigger picture, not just 2004, Vermeil doesn't come close to Gibbs[/QUOTE]

My bad, you are right they both went to kc in 2001.

Joe Gibbs is a great coach and a very admirable human being and that is good enough for me.

As far as opening up the offense, its possible we could have been a little more open. But the reality is that this team had so many problems that opening things up would have resulted in some major mistakes and frankly if we had gone out there throwing downfield a lot, I think we would have not won more than 4 games.

To me you want to be able to run a few miles before you sign up for a 10K or a marathon. Ramsey needed to get his confidence up, and we needed to manage the game in the face of receivers who were performing poorly, and we needed to deal with all sorts of other limitations and challenges that we faced with pass protection and so on.

We just didnt have personnel that were ready or who were performing well enough to open up the passing game dramatically.

That said, I think that Gibbs could have opened it up more than he did - not wide open, but more so. I think he didn't for a very understandable reason - he was back as coach and he didn't want to see us losing games in humiliating fashion with large numbers of interceptions and very little competence displayed. If that had happened, he may have felt that people on the team would have questioned him and so forth.

He has gradually brought the team along, they are learning about the realities of the NFL today, and you will see a dramatically different and far more effective offense next year.

I hate that I have to love football so much. I'm already ready for next season and I hope that we are all discussing how we stomped the entire NFC East week in and week out.

We'll definitely see a more aggressive approach next season. Will we see a shotgun? I highly doubt it. If it was the answer to all our problems he would put it in, but what did not having a shotgun have to do with our offensive struggles last year??

I think the whole shotgun thing is really a non-issue. We have bigger issues to correct offensively. Like someone said, he's won 3 Super Bowls without it, it's not an absolute necessity to having a successful offense in the NFL.

I'm not saying it's a necessity, I just feel like it might be worth a shot. Then again, my name isn't Joe and I haven't won 3 Super Bowls.:)