London Prepared to Leave (If No Deal)
 

Don't see him going anywhere, but interesting read nonetheless

[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Washington-Redskins-will-need-to-pay-to-keep-London-Fletcher-022912]Marvez: LB London Fletcher won't be afraid to leave the Washington Redskins if he doesn't get the deal he wants - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN[/url]

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If we let him go, which I don't think we will, it would have a beyond Antoino Pierce like effect on productivity

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[quote=SmootSmack;890307]Don't see him going anywhere, but interesting read nonetheless

[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Washington-Redskins-will-need-to-pay-to-keep-London-Fletcher-022912]Marvez: LB London Fletcher won't be afraid to leave the Washington Redskins if he doesn't get the deal he wants - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN[/url][/quote]

I can't see where this doesn't work out.

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[quote=Mattyk;890316]I can't see where this doesn't work out.[/quote]

I agree, but I've heard the Eagles are interested in him.

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[quote=mbedner3420;890318]I agree, but I've heard the Eagles are interested in him.[/quote]

That would break my heart.

I think London will stay, I wouldnt be mad at him if he ended up leaving to go to a team where he thinks he can get another crack at a Super Bowl Ring soon... I mean he's gotta fall off at some point...

THat being said, I really hope he stays in DC. One of the best guys on the team right now.

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London's camp has been hinting at their dissatisfaction with the contract talks for a while now. I think the real issue was the lack of seriousness of talks during the season. I don't think he WILL leave, but I do think the FO has rubbed him the wrong way.

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That writer needs to check his facts, Cullen Jenkins signed with the Eagles. As far as Fletch goes though, I want him back, absolutely. I wish a deal had been done by now but I think this FO knows how big of a priority he is. At least I hope so. If it gets to the point where he signs with another team, this FO deserves all criticism it gets.

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[quote=GTripp0012;890328]London's camp has been hinting at their dissatisfaction with the contract talks for a while now. I think the real issue was the lack of seriousness of talks during the season. I don't think he WILL leave, but I do think the FO has rubbed him the wrong way.[/quote]

Well he's got a new camp now. Fired his agent, according to Jason La Canfora and others

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GW is in St. Louis. Fletcher has followed him just about his whole career. I wouldn't be surprised if he looks that way if things don't work out here.

But I think they'll work out here. We've got a ton of cap space, there's no reason we don't get it done with him.

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[quote=SmootSmack;890331]Well he's got a new camp now. Fired his agent, according to Jason La Canfora and others[/quote]Yeah I just saw that. London is playing hardball with the Redskins right now, which I don't think they (or anyone) anticipated.

A lot of time for this to get done still, but from Fletcher's perspective, the Redskins had years on years to give him security in exchange for a discount, and they wanted (justifiably) to make sure his body would hold up.

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And I'll give the Redskins some credit: this must be a frustrating situation and they have at no point gone public with any of their frustrations.

I still want to see the results though. For every bit of praise that Bruce Allen deserves for being great at writing contracts, I don't know if he'd ever get a free pass on Fletcher going elsewhere and having even just one last strong season.

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just get it done, he's irreplacable.

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[quote=Chico23231;890354]just get it done, he's irreplacable.[/quote]

Completely agree.

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[quote=Chico23231;890354]just get it done, he's irreplacable.[/quote]

Are we really that desperate that we're calling a 36 year old LB on a 5-11 team irreplacable? As much as I like Fletch, we need to start looking in another direction. Let's get another young guy in there that can go with Riley for the next several years.

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He's truly the only good consistent player on this team. Sign him. Give him what he wants he deserves it.

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You can get that other young guy and still keep Fletcher. No young guy is gonna play as well as Fletch right out of the gate so he is very much a necessity. Not to mention that Riley benefits from having a great veteran like Fletch playing right beside him and teaching him the ropes.

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SHOW him the $$$$$.

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At one point he was 11 pro bowl alternates out of 12 years, what a smack in the face that has to be. Anyways, no one better for younger players to be around, he should be kept for that alone.

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[quote=GreekSkin;890384]You can get that other young guy and still keep Fletcher. No young guy is gonna play as well as Fletch right out of the gate so he is very much a necessity. Not to mention that Riley benefits from having a great veteran like Fletch playing right beside him and teaching him the ropes.[/quote]

This is a smart response.

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A few tweets from a ES insider.


[quote]Jsteelz ‏ @Jsteelzextreme

Adam, London, Landry, none of them close at this time @LL56_HTTR called it a game of chicken, and thats on point[/quote]




From various other tweets, seems London is trying to max out on this contract since it'll be his last one. Looking for a Ray Lewis type of deal around 3years/25million.

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[quote=Schneed10;890332][B]GW is in St. Louis. Fletcher has followed him just about his whole career. I wouldn't be surprised if he looks that way if things don't work out here.[/B]

But I think they'll work out here. We've got a ton of cap space, there's no reason we don't get it done with him.[/quote]

Thought about this immediately when GW landed in St. Louis. Have no idea what their MLB sitz is...?

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[quote=The Goat;890419]Thought about this immediately when GW landed in St. Louis. Have no idea what their MLB sitz is...?[/quote]

They're pretty set with Laurinaitis

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[quote=GreekSkin;890384]You can get that other young guy and still keep Fletcher. No young guy is gonna play as well as Fletch right out of the gate so he is very much a necessity. Not to mention that Riley benefits from having a great veteran like Fletch playing right beside him and teaching him the ropes.[/quote]

could not agree with you any more. london is a must sign, he has shown no signs of aging and isn't prone to injuries, why the hell would we not sign him? because he is older? i look at is a battle tested, i'm not entirely sure but isn't he the only current redskins player with a ring? so if we let him walk we are letting a super bowl champion, and pro bowler(one of our only ones lately) and a guy who has never missed a game in his career just walk out the door cause he is 36? i say sign him to a solid 3 year deal keep him happy let him end his career here and find a guy to shadow his every move for the next 3 years.

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[quote=skinsfan69;890381]Are we really that desperate that we're calling a 36 year old LB on a 5-11 team irreplacable?[/quote]

Yes.

[quote=Schneed10;890332]We've got a ton of cap space, there's no reason we don't get it done with him.[/quote]

Agreed. Fletch knows this is his last big contract so he's not gonna get shortchanged. But he doesn't strike me as the type to play hardball. And for the Skins this is no time to nickle-and-dime. Market value or pretty close should get this deal done.

[quote=mbedner3420;890318]I agree, but I've heard the Eagles are interested in him.[/quote]

Don't even go there. I'm still sick we let Pierce go to the Giants.

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;890438]Agreed. Fletch knows this is his last big contract so he's not gonna get shortchanged. But he doesn't strike me as the type to play hardball. And for the Skins this is no time to nickle-and-dime. Market value or pretty close should get this deal done.[/quote]


Actually, he is playing hardball. He fired his agent because he wasn't getting the contract figures he's expecting (think Ray Lewis). Hate the break it to him, but if he's wanting a Ray Lewis type of contract, then somebody needs to drive him to the airport. Salary cap be damned. You don't pay a 36/37 year old aging LB that type of money.

In fact, I would LOVE to see him get any type of contract near that on the open market. Not happening.

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[quote=NC_Skins;890440]Actually, he is playing hardball. He fired his agent because he wasn't getting the contract figures he's expecting (think Ray Lewis). Hate the break it to him, but if he's wanting a Ray Lewis type of contract, then somebody needs to drive him to the airport. Salary cap be damned. You don't pay a 36/37 year old aging LB that type of money.[/quote]

Well if that's really the case and he's expecting Ray Lewis money then I agree with you.

Whatever offer Fletch gets from another NFL team (unless totally absurd), the Skins should match/beat that offer.

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;890444]Well if that's really the case and he's expecting Ray Lewis money then I agree with you.

Whatever offer Fletch gets from another NFL team (unless totally absurd), the Skins should match/beat that offer.[/quote]

Is it really unreasonable to give him a deal up to 3 years $20 some million?

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[quote=SmootSmack;890457]Is it really unreasonable to give him a deal up to 3 years $20 some million?[/quote]

I agree, he's a $7 million / season kind of guy

3 years 21 mill. is my max contract I'd give him.

He deserves 3 years 30 M in my book

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[quote=SmootSmack;890457]Is it really unreasonable to give him a deal up to 3 years $20 some million?[/quote]

$6M+ cap hits for 3 years?? Sounds reasonable to me.

Especially if we're willing to keep DHall and his $6.8M cap hit. :vomit:

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;890463]$6M+ cap hits for 3 years?? Sounds reasonable to me.

Especially if we're willing to keep DHall and his $6.8M cap hit. :vomit:[/quote]


I imagine if they find a starting CB in free agency, you'll see D. Hall become a cap casualty.

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[quote=NC_Skins;890468]I imagine if they find a starting CB in free agency, you'll see D. Hall become a cap casualty.[/quote]If they don't, it's because they weren't looking.

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[quote=NC_Skins;890411]A few tweets from a ES insider.







From various other tweets, seems London is trying to max out on this contract since it'll be his last one. Looking for a Ray Lewis type of deal around 3years/25million.[/quote]Lewis and Fletcher are pretty much the same player at this point in their careers.

Fletcher could get between 3/20 and (a backloaded) 3/25 on the open market. I don't think he's going to get $9 mil a year, but he probably can do better elsewhere if he's really just going to look for the biggest contract he can find.

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[quote=GTripp0012;890472]Lewis and Fletcher are pretty much the same player at this point in their careers.[/quote]

I dunno..I'd have to say that London is a better athlete than Ray. Ray was a major Liability in coverage for his team this year. London was still good enough to cover TEs and RBs.

2 years ago Ray Lewis was like that. Now Ray Lewis isn't but another good MLB. Londons still Great.

I know the term ageless gets tossed around a lot, but London really is ageless, he still is playing the same as he did day 1 here. I still have to say he's the greatest Redskins signing of all time. Even would go as far to say he may be in the top 5 of Greatest skins of all time...

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[quote=CultBrennan59;890473]I dunno..[B]I'd have to say that London is a better athlete than Ray[/B]. Ray was a major Liability in coverage for his team this year. London was still good enough to cover TEs and RBs. [/quote]You might be right on that.

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He retires a Redskin..........

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[quote=SmootSmack;890457]Is it really unreasonable to give him a deal up to 3 years $20 some million?[/quote]

7 million a year is fine, for a Pro-Bowl MLB. Obviously you wouldn't guarantee the three years -- hard to imagine the ageless wonder playing out the contract at this level.

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either we will step up or he will retire a ram.

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They need to keep London! This guy is a team player and a leader of this team. Losing him would be a HUGE loss!

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Guys like London bring so many intangibles to the field. We just don't have anyone else like him to fill those shoes.