New Orleans Saints/Washington Redskins: Bounty Hunters
 

No link yet but the NFL has found about 25 players and at least one assistant coach guilty of being part of a bounty program where they got paid to purposely injure players over the past 3 years

NFL Statement reads:

"The league’s investigation determined that this improper “Pay for Performance” program included “bounty” payments to players for inflicting injuries on opposing players that would result in them being removed from a game," NFL said in a statement. Commissioner Goodell will determine punishment. " "The players regularly contributed cash into a pool and received improper cash payments of two kinds from the pool based on their play in the previous week’s game," NFL said

This is going to result in fines, suspensions, and probably loss of draft picks for the Saints. Knowing what I've heard from certain people about Gregg Williams' time in Buffalo and here...I don't have any doubt he played no small part in this

It's about to go down lol. Since this is the first-of-it's-kind offense, I expect big punishment.

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Sorry, wait here's more

"The bounty program was administered by defensive coordinator Gregg Williams with the knowledge of other defensive coaches. Funds were contributed on occasion by Williams." The NFL said its "investigation "showed that the total amount of funds in the pool may have reached $50,000 or more at its height during the 2009 playoffs. "

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Wow.....please No Skin's involvement........
Oh that's right, we got the Stoners..

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I'm surprised that Williams is involved, especially the one who started the program.... He is my favorite defense coordinator, or was.

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[quote=SmootSmack;891176]Sorry, wait here's more

"The bounty program was [B]administered by defensive coordinator Gregg Williams with the knowledge of other defensive coaches.[/B] Funds were contributed on occasion by Williams." The NFL said its "investigation "showed that the total amount of funds in the pool may have reached $50,000 or more at its height during the 2009 playoffs. "[/quote]
Even today....THAT is Shocking Shiite...

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I guess we shouldn't really be that shocked, we know GW is one of the most hardcore defensive coordinators in the league. I just hope he wasn't doing that with us while he was here. But yeah obviously this diminishes the respect I have for him somewhat. I was happy he won a ring, but being the ringleader of a bounty operation like that is not cool at all.

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The question is were the bounties for injuring people? Or was it just for legal clean hard hits and good play? If it's the first one then that's a pretty serious issue. But if it's for good hard clean play then no big deal. George Allen gave out gifts all the time for good play.

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If I'm Drew Brees I'm jumping ship. Does the team pony up to pay him now though so its not complete doom and gloom? Not to ignore how horrible the story is but DB just got more powerfull in negotations I think. IF he wanted to go down with the ship that is.

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Speaking of bounties, did anything come out of this?

[url=http://www.nfl.com/thanksgiving/story?id=09000d5d8045d6f2&template=with-video&confirm=true]League investigating reports of Packers bounty offers[/url]

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Brett Favre might have something to say about this. Remember the beating he took from the Saints in '09 in the playoffs?

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Okay, the real question here is ... How does this affect our ability to get RGIII?

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NFL is too soft. back in the 90s and before this was common on many teams.

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Maybe this is one of the reasons GW left NO, he knew fines where coming, you know Pete Carroll did it USC to Seattle.

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[quote=Mattyk;891191]Brett Favre might have something to say about this. Remember the beating he took from the Saints in '09 in the playoffs?[/quote]

And Kurt Warner in 2010 I think, right?

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I do like Greg Williams and think he is a very good defensive cord. If Joe Gibbs had not been the coach when NE was running up the score in Joe's second time, Greg would have put a bounty on Brady's ass for throwing bombs late in the 4th quarter when they were up 30+ points.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;891196]Maybe this is one of the reasons GW left NO, he knew fines where coming, you know Pete Carroll did it USC to Seattle.[/quote]

He's still in the NFL though and won't dodge any disciplinary actions I would think.

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[quote=SmootSmack;891197]And Kurt Warner in 2010 I think, right?[/quote]

But wasn't the beating Farve took legal. I mean they just beat the hell out of the Oline that night and hit him about everytime he dropped back. I dont recall the warner beating

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[quote=#56fanatic;891199]I do like Greg Williams and think he is a very good defensive cord. If Joe Gibbs had not been the coach when NE was running up the score in Joe's second time,[B] Greg would have put a bounty on Brady's ass for throwing bombs late in the 4th quarter when they were up 30+ points[/B].[/quote]


I would of put some money in that pot for that bounty.

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Buddy Ryan was accused multiple times of placing bounties when he was coaching, and of course Gregg Williams is a Buddy disciple

A) We're lucky Goodell wasn't commissioner when he was the DC for the Redskins and B)What makes this especially bad is coaches and the GM were involved heavily in this (it wasn't just players only) and they were warned a year ago by the league and team owner Tom Benson to stop...and didn't

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I've talked to a couple of people who say they expect the Saints to lose multiple draft picks this year and their 2013 1st round pick

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[quote=#56fanatic;891201]But wasn't the beating Farve took legal. I mean they just beat the hell out of the Oline that night and hit him about everytime he dropped back. I dont recall the warner beating[/quote]

Legal I guess, but he took some pretty questionable shots if I recall

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Imagine the extra cash ST21 made... he was a headhunter

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;891202]I would of put some money in that pot for that bounty.[/quote]

Me too. That was a disgraceful game in many respects...

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[quote=diehardskin2982;891211]Imagine the extra cash ST21 made... he was a headhunter[/quote]

There's a difference between hard-hitter and headhunter.

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[quote=SmootSmack;891207]I've talked to a couple of people who say they expect the Saints to lose multiple draft picks this year and their 2013 1st round pick[/quote]

I think that's far too punitive. But whatever...maybe it will give the Saints added motivation toward another ring.

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Old school tactic, been around forever, i kinda like it. Itl get a lot of exposure and the penalties forthcoming.

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Wow.

Then again this isn't surprising, because I remember Gregg Williams saying that he wants his players to give peyton manning 'remember me shots' in the super bowl.

Can u say back to the Aints?

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[quote=The Goat;891215]I think that's far too punitive. But whatever...maybe it will give the Saints added motivation toward another ring.[/quote]

Given the NFL talk about player safety, I believe they need to practice what they preach. Although, I still don't agree with people that compare this to the Patriots situation. I think this is stupid and terrible of the Saints, but not quite the same.

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[quote=The Goat;891215]I think that's far too punitive. But whatever...maybe it will give the Saints added motivation toward another ring.[/quote]

There will probably be some fines and suspensions as well

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The Saints should be punished by having to trade Breesus for John Beck.

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[quote=Lotus;891244]The Saints should be punished by having to trade Breesus for John Beck.[/quote]

I like it. You're my new favorite person.:)

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This reminds me of a book I read back in the 1980s entitled "They Call Me Assassin" by Jack Tatum.

It's really terrible for the game.

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[url=http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/17546706]Saints, team officials involved in bounty program should pay dearly - NFL - CBSSports.com[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;891207]I've talked to a couple of people who say they expect the Saints to lose multiple draft picks this year and [B]their 2013 1st round[/B] pick[/quote]

wow, thats a little harsh imo. I mean, hasnt this gone on since the beginning of football? It may not be as elaborate as pooling money, but there has been incentives for this type of 'play' for awhile on multi-levels of football ie high school, college, and nfl.

The thing of being told to quit and they didnt is certainly what will draw the harsh penalty, but a 1st round pick? Come'on man, thats insane. 4th, 5th round pick at the most, im not down with that.

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I'd be willing to bet that this still goes on around the league. I have no problem with it. Trying to knock out the other teams best player has been around since the start of football. Again, as long as the hits are legal, and the ones against Farve and Warner were legal, then I have no problem with it. Of course Mr. Stiff Suit himself (Roger G.) is going to think differently.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;891252]This reminds me of a book I read back in the 1980s entitled "They Call Me Assassin" by Jack Tatum.

It's really terrible for the game.[/quote]

Jack Tatum was a dirty player who literally tried to injure people. He was terrible for the game.

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03-02-2012, 04:59 PM #32
Lotus
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The Saints should be punished by having to trade Breesus for John Beck.

what are you talking about. Drew Brees is too short, and he only ran a 4.7 at his combine. Are you crazy!!!???????

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Washington Post Text alert says that Skins had similar system in place. Doesn't say when tho'. Loss of 2013 1st round pick sure would put a hiccup in the RGIII train!

EDIT: Nothing in the text alert talked about sanctions against the Skins.