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SmootSmack 04-10-2012 04:22 PM

Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
This is already being discussed in another thread (multiple threads actually), but I know people will miss it and then complain that it was too easy to miss....

So here's a brand new thread so you won't miss it

DynamiteRave 04-10-2012 04:25 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
*Sigh* Torrence.

I know SS said he's decent but I think he stinks. Hah, I mean I feel like he's like Doughty, good to fill in, just in case we have injuries or need him for special teams, but probably shouldn't EVER be starting.

Edit: Not that they were planning on him to start.

Okay, I just don't like the guy. I have a vendetta. At least I'm honest. >P

MTK 04-10-2012 04:26 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
Torrence back for another round eh?

Looked him up, he's only 30? Seems like forever ago when he was here.

los panda 04-10-2012 04:28 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
i like both, more cheap bodies, cream will rise to the top

DynamiteRave 04-10-2012 04:30 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
Maybe this has been addressed in other threads, but...

Are they sitting on signing Fletcher back? or is there some other reason (cap space, etc etc) that they seem to be not trying to jump on this?

MTK 04-10-2012 04:31 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
We're definitely going the Spurrier route of cheap and available guys.

MTK 04-10-2012 04:31 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
[quote=DynamiteRave;907946]Maybe this has been addressed in other threads, but...

Are they sitting on signing Fletcher back? or is there some other reason (cap space, etc etc) that they seem to be not trying to jump on this?[/quote]

cap

ArtMonkDrillz 04-10-2012 04:35 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
I drank with Leigh Torrence's dad in the parking lot before the HOF game the year Monk and Green were inducted, so he always has a special place in my heart.

Ruhskins 04-10-2012 04:35 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
BTW, I don't think they signed Leigh Torrence to be a starter. Just saying that for those that may be upset about this signing.

DynamiteRave 04-10-2012 04:40 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
[quote=Ruhskins;907950]BTW, I don't think they signed Leigh Torrence to be a starter. Just saying that for those that may be upset about this signing.[/quote]

<---

I'll welcome anyone to play with us, even if they suck. He was always a good dude so. Welcome back home.

SkinzWin 04-10-2012 04:42 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
Kendrick Golston resigned

“@Redskins: It's now official, #Redskins announce the signing of veteran DL Kedric Golston. He has emerged as one of longest-tenured Redskins.”

Paintrain 04-10-2012 04:42 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
[quote=Mattyk;907947]We're definitely going the Spurrier route of cheap and available guys.[/quote]

Also, as you said, cap.

They are decent stopgaps for the 2012 season and will be replaced shortly thereafter.

skinsfaninok 04-10-2012 05:01 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
wow I forgot Leigh was even in the league... No seriously he sucks ass

whistler 04-10-2012 05:01 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
[quote=DynamiteRave;907946]Maybe this has been addressed in other threads, but...

Are they sitting on signing Fletcher back? or is there some other reason (cap space, etc etc) that they seem to be not trying to jump on this?[/quote]



Fletcher wants 6mil per for 3yrs and that is not a cap friendly # or realistic for a 37yr old lb. I heard the skins offered around 4mil. If the market settles & he doesn't get anybody too bite for his # then he'll be back, if not its better to let him go one yr early than too late.

NYCskinfan82 04-10-2012 05:07 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
[quote=whistler;907966]Fletcher wants 6mil per for 3yrs and that is not a cap friendly # or realistic for a 37yr old lb. I heard the skins offered around 4mil. [B]If the market settles & he doesn't get anybody too bite for his # then he'll be back, if not its better to let him go one yr early than too late[/B].[/quote]

Agree we are normally known for holding on to most aging players to long (I want Fletcher back but at the right price). A player his age & who plays his position normally signs 1yr deals.

los panda 04-10-2012 05:11 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
i don't think fletcher has slipped at all

Paintrain 04-10-2012 05:11 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
[quote=whistler;907966]Fletcher wants 6mil per for 3yrs and that is not a cap friendly # or realistic for a 37yr old lb. I heard the skins offered around 4mil. If the market settles & he doesn't get anybody too bite for his # then he'll be back, if not its better to let him go one yr early than too late.[/quote]

Really unpopular to say, but very true. Short term it would be a major blow to lose him, but at some point age will catch up to him and I'd hate for it to be year 2 of a 3 year deal we are locked into.

RedskinRat 04-10-2012 05:34 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
[quote=los panda;907945]..... cream will rise to the top[/quote]

Check your bathwater, player, so does scum.

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-10-2012 05:45 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
[QUOTE=SkinzWin;907955]Kendrick Golston resigned



“@Redskins: It's now official, #Redskins announce the signing of veteran DL Kedric Golston. He has emerged as one of longest-tenured Redskins.”[/QUOTE]



Yep, because that's Torrence or Williams related.

Hog1 04-10-2012 05:46 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
If we are going to overpay a little for a player....let it be LF. He brings powerful intangible to the table as well....

The Goat 04-10-2012 06:04 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
[quote=Hog1;907984]If we are going to overpay a little for a player....let it be LF. He brings powerful intangible to the table as well....[/quote]

That's what frustrates me about putting all our eggs in the Garcon basket. Who thinks Garcon will be more valuable to the offense over the next 2-3 years than London will be to the defense?

GusFrerotte 04-10-2012 06:18 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
Fletch just needs to sign a one year deal and retire a Skin. We are trying to get a youth movement here so we can become winners again. The Red Wings hold onto certain guys forever til they decide to retire on their own. It is a nice sentiment and for the most part worked til the past few seasons. Predators are probably going to eliminate them in the first round this year. They should have done the unthinkable and traded Lidstrom way back when. Anyways, I like Fletch, but he is not the future. I could see us draft a MLB in the mid rounds this year or next.

Alvin Walton 04-10-2012 07:06 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
[quote=Mattyk;907947]We're definitely going the Spurrier route of cheap and available guys.[/quote]

Gak....dont jinx us.

Dirtbag59 04-10-2012 07:07 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
What about Jimoh?

GTripp0012 04-10-2012 07:12 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
Awesome, we can finally ask the question, "who will last on the roster longer, DeAngelo Hall or Leigh Torrance?"

Inquiring minds must know.

redskin37 04-10-2012 07:31 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
Give LF 2 year deal, 5 mil per year.

MTK 04-10-2012 07:36 PM

[QUOTE=The Goat;907987]That's what frustrates me about putting all our eggs in the Garcon basket. Who thinks Garcon will be more valuable to the offense over the next 2-3 years than London will be to the defense?[/QUOTE]

At Fletcher's age his production could fall off very fast and sudden. Who knows if he's even playing in 2 or 3 years.


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SFREDSKIN 04-10-2012 07:56 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
[quote=GTripp0012;908000]Awesome, we can finally ask the question, "who will last on the roster longer, DeAngelo Hall or Leigh Torrance?"

Inquiring minds must know.[/quote]

I put my money on Torrance, he can play ST and doesn't bet an Olympian 100k challenging him to a race. I hope they drop Hall soon.

Dirtbag59 04-10-2012 10:04 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;908009]I put my money on Torrance, he can play ST [B]and doesn't bet an Olympian 100k challenging him to a race. I hope they drop Hall soon.[/B][/quote]

I see. So Torrence isn't competitive. This does not bode well for his chances of making the team. He better issue an unsolicited challenge to an olympian soon or he'll be back on the street.

SFREDSKIN 04-10-2012 10:21 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
[quote=Dirtbag59;908039]I see. So Torrence isn't competitive. This does not bode well for his chances of making the team. He better issue an unsolicited challenge to an olympian soon or he'll be back on the street.[/quote]

Hall is a big mouth who can't back up shit, with Torrance you know what you get and has actually gotten better in coverage and you know he can play ST well.

SBXVII 04-10-2012 11:51 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;907965]wow I forgot Leigh was even in the league... No seriously he sucks ass[/quote]

Trust me I didn't like Torrence, and your right he sucked, but some play better in different situations. Funny that he went to the Saints and played better there then he did here. Didn't he record a few INT's? I don't know why I'm thinking he did against us but I'm most likely wrong. Who knows maybe he plays better in a 3-4?

SkinzWin 04-10-2012 11:59 PM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;907982]Yep, because that's Torrence or Williams related.[/quote]

We threw Eddie Royal into the Garcon/Morgan thread so i figured why not Golston? It all happened about the same time just like the afore mentioned.

artmonkforhallofamein07 04-11-2012 12:01 AM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
Signing Leigh Torrence reminds me of how much I want Justin Tryon back.

kerrigan91 04-11-2012 12:16 AM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
[quote=redskin37;908002]Give LF 2 year deal, 5 mil per year.[/quote]

I agree. Offer him a 1 year deal after that if he's still putting up the same numbers, but if he's not I could see him retiring a redskin and hopefully taking up a position on the coaching staff

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-11-2012 02:15 AM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
[QUOTE=SkinzWin;908054]We threw Eddie Royal into the Garcon/Morgan thread so i figured why not Golston? It all happened about the same time just like the afore mentioned.[/QUOTE]



Difference is, we offered Royal a contract and at one point thought he was signed.

REDSKINS4ever 04-11-2012 02:47 AM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
The Redskins are clearly not confident in Kevin Barnes. The things I like about Barnes besides him being a former Terp is he shows lots of hustle. What I don't like about Barnes is that he struggles in coverage.

At least we'll see Torrence and Barnes compete in preseason for the nickle back position.

As for Madieu Williams is another former Terripin. I'd be more comfortable seeing him starting @ SS instead of Meriweather.

skinsfaninok 04-11-2012 04:41 AM

[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;908067]The Redskins are clearly not confident in Kevin Barnes. The things I like about Barnes besides him being a former Terp is he shows lots of hustle. What I don't like about Barnes is that he struggles in coverage.

At least we'll see Torrence and Barnes compete in preseason for the nickle back position.

As for Madieu Williams is another former Terripin. I'd be more comfortable seeing him starting @ SS instead of Meriweather.[/QUOTE]

Barnes is horrible

Bigreds77 04-11-2012 05:30 AM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
[quote=los panda;907972]i don't think fletcher has slipped at all[/quote]

I agree

Chico23231 04-11-2012 08:49 AM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
Torrence signing brings really no value other than a body to camp. B Thompson has more value at this point.

Interesting on the the Skins' website when listing positions for players, they have Meriweather as FS and C Griffin listed as CB. Torrence and B Thompson have the ambiguous DB title and Reed and Gomes are just S not SS. Meriweather is the only listed FS on the roster, M Williams hasnt been listed yet...Of course this is nothing set in stone, but may be an initial indication of what their thinking is.

TheMalcolmConnection 04-11-2012 09:15 AM

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 
I miss The Ade. :(


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