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NC_Skins 04-11-2012 09:08 AM

Skip Bayless owned on TV
 
[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/jalen-rose-calls-skip-bayless-air-trumped-high-214530179.html]Jalen Rose calls out Skip Bayless on air for his trumped up high school history (VIDEO) | Ball Don't Lie - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

[quote]We're feeding the troll, we know. But if this isn't the final reason you need to stop paying attention to someone who brags about not watching games, and blatantly lies to the people he's paid to inform, then we can't help you. If you want to contribute more to this buffoon's sad success, you deserve the misleading information he's going to toss your wayWe're feeding the troll, we know. But if this isn't the final reason you need to stop paying attention to someone who brags about not watching games, and blatantly lies to the people he's paid to inform, then we can't help you. If you want to contribute more to this buffoon's sad success, you deserve the misleading information he's going to toss your way[/quote]

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Never understood why ESPN ever brought this idiot on board. I refuse to watch any show with Bayless. It seems he always takes to polar opposite side on topics just so he can be controversial. (Wilbon as well)

Glad somebody busted his lying ass and smeared the poop in his face.

Chico23231 04-11-2012 09:15 AM

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i saw this last night and almost fell out my seat from laughing so hard. Jalen is awesome. I like how Skip tries to deflect it, "lets talk about this later"....lolololololololol. Bayless is a f*cking joke. Id like to be on the set when they went to commercial.

MTK 04-11-2012 09:20 AM

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He's always been a clown. Does anyone actually take him seriously?

SmootSmack 04-11-2012 09:37 AM

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Here's my rambling take on Skip. First of all, what is this talk of him not watching games? That's not true at all. He watches more games than probably anyone I know. He's up all night watching multiple games. To say he doesn't watch games is wrong. He's obsessed.

His opinions of course are controversial and I don't agree with a lot of what he says. But, unfortunately, I think as much blame lies in the hands of the producers of First Take who encourage his ramblings. And there are ratings issues behind it of course. Still, I think they could and should tone it down. It's a personality they've basically created that doesn't really, in my opinion, the true qualities of Skip Bayless. In a different setting, such as guest hosting on Mike and Mike he's been much more subdued and well worth listening to. But on First Take...well, I don't even watch the show anymore quite honestly. And don't even get me started on Rob Parker

As for Skip off camera? I only met him a few times. And well he doesn't really talk to you if he doesn't you. I mean he's not rude or anything. He's just not social. To the people he trusts, the people in his "inner circle" he's extremely loyal and supportive and will fight to the death for them. To others he's essentially indifferent. Unlike say Colin Cowherd who goes out of his way to make you feel welcome.

Jalen Rose on the other hand is one of the coolest former athletes/current on-air personalities at ESPN.

MTK 04-11-2012 09:39 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;908094]Here's my rambling take on Skip. First of all, what is this talk of him not watching games? That's not true at all. He watches more games than probably anyone I know. He's up all night watching multiple games. To say he doesn't watch games is wrong. He's obsessed.

His opinions of course are controversial and I don't agree with a lot of what he says. But, unfortunately, I think as much blame lies in the hands of the producers of First Take who encourage his ramblings. And there are ratings issues behind it of course. Still, I think they could and should tone it down. It's a personality they've basically created that doesn't really, in my opinion, the true qualities of Skip Bayless. In a different setting, [B]such as guest hosting on Mike and Mike he's been much more subdued and well worth listening to[/B]. But on First Take...well, I don't even watch the show anymore quite honestly. And don't even get me started on Rob Parker

As for Skip off camera? I only met him a few times. And well he doesn't really talk to you if he doesn't you. I mean he's not rude or anything. He's just not social. To the people he trusts, the people in his "inner circle" he's extremely loyal and supportive and will fight to the death for them. To others he's essentially indifferent. Unlike say Colin Cowherd who goes out of his way to make you feel welcome.

Jalen Rose on the other hand is one of the coolest former athletes/current on-air personalities at ESPN.[/quote]

True, I've heard him guest host for Rome and he's definitely different.

GMScud 04-11-2012 11:29 AM

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Skip hates Lebron James and loves Tebow, but aside from that, I've got no time for the guy. He's obnoxious.

FRPLG 04-11-2012 11:43 AM

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SS I heard the same things. Supposedly he's pretty cool and decent with the staff and so forth. It's just the on-air personality is so unlikeable.

I was trying to compare he Cowherd this morning in my head. Cowherd I dislike greatly but mostly because I think he has a lot of stupid opinions. But I don't think he is just a creation for ratings puroses. His opinions seems to eb genuine. Bayless just comes off as completely ingenuine and fake with these takes. Almost like they tell him which side to take and he marches along dutifully.

skinsfaninok 04-11-2012 12:23 PM

Rob Parker is a clown and always always pulls the infamous Race card out

skinsfaninok 04-11-2012 12:36 PM

My problem with first take is they go off topic to focus so much on skip. I mean why not call it the skip bayless show?

SmootSmack 04-11-2012 12:37 PM

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The aftermath

[url=http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7800707]Fallout From Jalen Rose Comments To Skip Bayless - ESPN Video - ESPN[/url]

NC_Skins 04-11-2012 01:02 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;908170]The aftermath

[url=http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7800707]Fallout From Jalen Rose Comments To Skip Bayless - ESPN Video - ESPN[/url][/quote]

Skip Bayless doing a

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SmootSmack 04-11-2012 01:12 PM

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If Skip was worried that he couldn't get his message across on Twitter then he shouldn't have posted it in the first place

jdlea 04-11-2012 01:25 PM

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I watched a lot of this, but I had to pause it to comment. Jalen makes the point that he doesn't like that Stephen A and Skip cross a line and disrespect people. I agree with that. Then, this happens:

Skip: "He gets paid how much?"
Jalen: "So, based on how much I get paid you should be able to disrespect me?"
Skip: "He's out in the public domain, man!"

Wait...what are we talking about here? We have a 25 minute segment because Jalen hurt Skip's feelings yesterday and he felt attacked by Jalen. Okay, how about this Skip, "You get paid how much? You're in the public domain, man!"

Done. You lose. You don't get to argue that what he gets paid and the manner in which he applies his craft makes him fair game and then take offense when people take shots at you. Man, this whole thing somehow made me hate Skip more.

EDIT: Just finished this video and Skip did say you can call him out on his opinions. However, if you can go on tv and say anything about an athlete, why can't said athlete treat you the same way? I want to know how what he does every day is different than what Jalen did to him.

skinsfanthru&thru 04-11-2012 02:23 PM

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Is anyone else severely annoyed by Stephen A Smith? Anytime he comes on tv I feel compelled to switch the channel.

Chico23231 04-11-2012 02:26 PM

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;908215]Is anyone else severely annoyed by Stephen A Smith? Anytime he comes on tv I feel compelled to switch the channel.[/quote]

he sucks...."However"

NC_Skins 04-11-2012 02:27 PM

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;908215]Is anyone else severely annoyed by Stephen A Smith? Anytime he comes on tv I feel compelled to switch the channel.[/quote]

Stephen A Smith gets really personal and demeaning when arguing points. He acts if it's not his point, then you are a stupid idiot. He even treats them as such. I would have already busted his lip if he ever talked to me the way he does some of his co-workers. Then again, maybe they ask him and pay them to do that merely for ratings.

SmootSmack 04-11-2012 02:45 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;908222]Stephen A Smith gets really personal and demeaning when arguing points. He acts if it's not his point, then you are a stupid idiot. He even treats them as such. I would have already busted his lip if he ever talked to me the way he does some of his co-workers. Then again, maybe they ask him and pay them to do that merely for ratings.[/quote]

No one asks him. That's how he is. Rather chivalrous with the ladies though. Funny thing is he and Skip are like bff's...which may not be too surprising really.

My favorite moment with Stephen A. was when he was interviewing a college basketball coach one time. And I can't remember the coach or the school but the coach was talking about the upcoming season and he mentioned how a certain player wasn't returning next season. Again, I can't remember his name, let's just call him Matty for now.

So the coach is talking and he says "well we won't have Matty next year" and he keeps talking.

Then Stephen A. chimes in and is like "Hold up. Hold up. Hold up! Are you telling me right here. Are you saying right now on national television. Are you saying that Matty won't return next year. Is that what you're saying??? (of course he's yelling the whole time)"

The coach looks back at him kind of confused and says..."Well yeah. Matty's a senior, he's graduating"

Oh man, I still laugh about that

dmek25 04-11-2012 03:27 PM

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there is a reason they call him screaming Stephen...worked for the local Philly papers for a while. cant figure out how he stays employed

dmek25 04-11-2012 03:33 PM

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after watching the follow up, skip bayless is a bigger douce then i thought

itvnetop 04-12-2012 12:30 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;908170]The aftermath

[url=http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7800707]Fallout From Jalen Rose Comments To Skip Bayless - ESPN Video - ESPN[/url][/quote]

Excellent clip. You almost never hear this kind of honesty on a talking heads show. Loved all three guys in this. Isn't it funny how the guy who seemingly had a temper on the court was the one who processed information first and provided the most thoughtful counters?

Daseal 04-12-2012 08:11 AM

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Every time Stephen A. Smith comes on TV I can't help to think.....

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ITS GONNA RAIN.

Skip bothers me a lot less, he takes the controversial side of every argument, but sports reporting is boring if two people take the same stance on a lot of issues. TO me, I see that as the format of the show, and taking a stance like that can get you in trouble sometimes.

SmootSmack 04-12-2012 09:07 AM

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[quote=jdlea;908189]I watched a lot of this, but I had to pause it to comment. Jalen makes the point that he doesn't like that Stephen A and Skip cross a line and disrespect people. I agree with that. Then, this happens:

Skip: "He gets paid how much?"
Jalen: "So, based on how much I get paid you should be able to disrespect me?"
Skip: "He's out in the public domain, man!"

Wait...what are we talking about here? We have a 25 minute segment because Jalen hurt Skip's feelings yesterday and he felt attacked by Jalen. Okay, how about this Skip, "You get paid how much? You're in the public domain, man!"

Done. You lose. You don't get to argue that what he gets paid and the manner in which he applies his craft makes him fair game and then take offense when people take shots at you. Man, this whole thing somehow made me hate Skip more.

EDIT: Just finished this video and Skip did say you can call him out on his opinions. However, if you can go on tv and say anything about an athlete, why can't said athlete treat you the same way? I want to know how what he does every day is different than what Jalen did to him.[/quote]

I think he was more upset about his integrity being questioned, Jalen essentially calling him a liar. But that was Skip's fault for only tweeting part of his story about playing basketball in high school. And I think he said as much.

I went to a few First Take tapings and off-camera Skip gets teased/needled/abused whatever you want to call it a fair amount. It's all love of course...or is it? Anyhow, he takes it as well as he dishes it out.

jdlea 04-12-2012 10:40 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;908366]I think he was more upset about his integrity being questioned, Jalen essentially calling him a liar. But that was Skip's fault for only tweeting part of his story about playing basketball in high school. And I think he said as much.

I went to a few First Take tapings and off-camera Skip gets teased/needled/abused whatever you want to call it a fair amount. It's all love of course...or is it? Anyhow, he takes it as well as he dishes it out.[/quote]

I guess that's fair. When I found about this, my reaction was pretty much, "People still take this guy seriously?" I've never enjoyed listening to Skip Bayless, if he believes half of what comes out of his mouth, he's an idiot. To me, it was more like Jalen calling him on his BS than anything else. I'm not saying he was trying to outright lie, but I don't doubt that he was trying to mislead people.

Also, who cares what you did in high school? That has absolutely no bearing on how you judge Westbrook. I mean, seriously, how does "I got benched in high school because I was a point guard who shot too much" relate in any way to "(NBA Player) Russell Westbrook should know better, Durant should have a problem with him." How do you even make that connection?

While we're saying stuff like that, I played defensive end on my 70 lb team until I was 10, I was even better (at that age) than a few people who got college scholarships, therefore, you should know that I'm speaking from experience when I say DeMarcus Ware should bull rush more. Disregard the fact that I only ever registered like 2 tackles while playing end; that's not important to this discussion.

IMO Bayless was being dishonest by even bringing up his high school experience and using that to justify his points.

[B]TL;DR[/B] I have a confirmation bias against Skip Bayless and I love seeing him embarassed/proven wrong. Also, I'm long winded and wrote way too much about something I care very little about.


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