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SmootSmack 05-02-2012 11:50 AM

Saints Player Suspensions Coming Down
 
Let's start with Jonathan Vilma...full season suspension

SmootSmack 05-02-2012 11:51 AM

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Scott Fujita 3 games

SmootSmack 05-02-2012 11:52 AM

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Will Smith 4 games

SmootSmack 05-02-2012 11:52 AM

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Alfonso Ribiero 6 games

MTK 05-02-2012 11:54 AM

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Love that we have them in the season opener. Just wish it was in D.C.

SmootSmack 05-02-2012 11:54 AM

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Anthony Hargrove 8 games

Vilma's suspension is immediate, the rest are later

SmootSmack 05-02-2012 11:56 AM

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[url=http://nflcommunications.com/2012/05/02/four-players-suspended-for-participation-in-saints-pay-for-performancebounty-program/]NFL Communications - Four Players Suspended for Participation in Saints’ Pay-For-Performance/Bounty Program «[/url]

Paintrain 05-02-2012 12:04 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;914573]Alfonso Ribiero 6 games[/quote]

Well played.

Paintrain 05-02-2012 12:05 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;914575]Anthony Hargrove 8 games

Vilma's suspension is immediate, the rest are later[/quote]

Later meaning staggered or later meaning starting on opening day but they can participate in offseason & preseason?

mooby 05-02-2012 12:09 PM

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I'd imagine staggered, so we and other teams don't have too much of an advantage when we play them.

skinsfan69 05-02-2012 12:15 PM

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One year for Vilma? And the madness continues...

Chico23231 05-02-2012 12:16 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;914570]Let's start with Jonathan Vilma...full season suspension[/quote]

A whole year? wow, thats insane imo. Who did he injury? Was he told to quit and didnt??? thats a little much, but i dont know the whole story

Paintrain 05-02-2012 12:17 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;914584]A whole year? wow, thats insane imo. Who did he injury? Was he told to quit and didnt??? thats a little much, but i dont know the whole story[/quote]

Announcing to the team $10,000 to anyone who knocks Favre out of the NFC Championship game is pretty damning..allegedly.

Chico23231 05-02-2012 12:25 PM

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[quote=Paintrain;914585]Announcing to the team $10,000 to anyone who knocks Favre out of the NFC Championship game is pretty damning..allegedly.[/quote]

if he woulda said "ill give a high five" is that ok?

Was it bad for my high school coach to tell the defense to take out the QB and if the QB runs the ball "clean his clock" and "take him out"?

I agree this is bad, but 1 year is very harsh IMO for a player.

CrustyRedskin 05-02-2012 12:27 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;914570]Let's start with Jonathan Vilma...full season suspension[/quote]

What a crock of :bs:

MTK 05-02-2012 12:28 PM

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Vilma and Payton are the head of the snake if you will, they had to get hit hard.

SmootSmack 05-02-2012 12:30 PM

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[quote=Paintrain;914579]Later meaning staggered or later meaning starting on opening day but they can participate in offseason & preseason?[/quote]

Not sure about preseason but can participate in mini-camps and OTAs (as is my understanding)

Vilma found out about his suspension via TV, that's kind of lame

Chico23231 05-02-2012 12:34 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;914592]Not sure about preseason but can participate in mini-camps and OTAs (as is my understanding)

[B]Vilma found out about his suspension via TV, that's kind of la[/B]me[/quote]

:vomit:

Id be livid. that's Goodell for you

Monkeydad 05-02-2012 12:39 PM

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Horrible move not notifying the players personally but I'm not surprised.

The Saints will be mediocre/bad this season. They won't win their division.

Brees should get out. Now's his chance with no contract agreement.

Daseal 05-02-2012 12:58 PM

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Wow. Over the top, in my opinion.

Paintrain 05-02-2012 01:06 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;914588]if he woulda said "ill give a high five" is that ok?

Was it bad for my high school coach to tell the defense to take out the QB and if the QB runs the ball "clean his clock" and "take him out"?

I agree this is bad, but 1 year is very harsh IMO for a player.[/quote]

I agree the suspension was a bit heavy handed IMO but I get it.

Alvin Walton 05-02-2012 01:09 PM

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Wow, the Saints are a mess......

Lotus 05-02-2012 01:09 PM

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Holy smokes about Vilma. A year without pay and a year of getting older away from a game ruled by young men. I don't condone his actions but I feel bad for him.

JoeRedskin 05-02-2012 01:49 PM

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Was it tough? Yup.

Were his actions beyond the pale? Yup.

We have beat this horse to death, some of you clearly think these kind of actions are "ehh, everybody does it so it's okay", "it's just how the game is played" or "they're making it a girly game". For those falling in these category and/or who can't/refuse to see the difference between encouraging hard play and encouraging playing to harm, I just don't have anything left to say. (Finally, you want to invoke the "Nurenburg Defense"? Fine - the name says it all as to its validity).

They did what they did and they got what they got.

Ruhskins 05-02-2012 01:54 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;914609]Was it tough? Yup.

Were his actions beyond the pale? Yup.

We have beat this horse to death, some of you clearly think these kind of actions are "ehh, everybody does it so it's okay", "it's just how the game is played" or "they're making it a girly game". For those falling in these category and/or who can't/refuse to see the difference between encouraging hard play and encouraging playing to harm, I just don't have anything left to say. (Finally, you want to invoke the "Nurenburg Defense"? Fine - the name says it all as to its validity).

They did what they did and they got what they got.[/quote]

Yeah I don't get the people who still think this wasn't a big deal and are shocked at the punishment.

Also, I know that there are people here who are big fans of saying that players need to STFU and just play. Well this is a PRIME example of player who should have done exactly that.

Maybe next time Vilma will think twice about saying something ignorant.

Daseal 05-02-2012 01:54 PM

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Just to put this in perspective.

Leonard Little got a DUI and killed someone with his car. Shortly after that he got ANOTHER DUI.

He missed 8 games.

Ruhskins 05-02-2012 01:56 PM

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[quote=Daseal;914614]Just to put this in perspective.

Leonard Little got a DUI and killed someone with his car. Shortly after that he got ANOTHER DUI.

He missed 8 games.[/quote]

Was Goodell in charge when that happened?

CrustyRedskin 05-02-2012 01:59 PM

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[quote=Daseal;914614]Just to put this in perspective.

Leonard Little got a DUI and killed someone with his car. Shortly after that he got ANOTHER DUI.

He missed 8 games.[/quote]

If your looking for fair under GODell's tenure it'll be at the County, State or Worlds Fair.

NC_Skins 05-02-2012 02:21 PM

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I have to give Incarcerated Bob some credit. Dude called Vilma's year long suspension a bit ago. He was dead on with his report.

NC_Skins 05-02-2012 02:24 PM

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I think ICB's tweet would explain why Vilma's suspension was so long.

[B][SIZE="3"]
Incarcerated Bob ‏ @incarceratedbob

Commish laid the hammer on Vilma because he was the most vocal about how he couldn't care what commish did.. #TaughtALesson[/SIZE][/B]

Ruhskins 05-02-2012 02:26 PM

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Unless this guy knew about Vilma's involvement before the investigation, I think many people could've seen this happen. The fact that Vilma's name was mentioned in the initial reports and how much of a big deal this became, I am sure it made a lot of people realize that he was going to be suspended for a long time (including the whole season).

NYCskinfan82 05-02-2012 02:35 PM

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Tough for the Saints, they must feel like a wolf back into a corner, will be hard to beat.

SmootSmack 05-02-2012 02:48 PM

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Football is such a violent sport. Look at Eric LeGrand who can't walk anymore after a routine play, or Junior Seau who committed suicide that may (emphasis on may) have been caused by depression created by multiple hits to the head. The players know that it's dangerous and have been insistent that the league take better care to protect their safety during and after their careers...so I have no sympathy for players who go out of their way to encourage making the game more dangerous than it is or needs to be

JoeRedskin 05-02-2012 03:00 PM

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^^ This.

mooby 05-02-2012 03:01 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;914666]^^ This.[/quote]

I'll second that.

JoeRedskin 05-02-2012 04:07 PM

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For those wanting an example of the bounty system at work:


[quote][O]ne Saints player was caught yelling during the NFC Championship Game in January 2010, after Favre was helped off the field due to a brutal high-low hit, "Pay me my money!'' The league's sanctions today lend credence Hargrove being that money-seeking player.

If Hargrove, as the league said in its release today, was suspended eight games after being a whistleblower and doing the league the service of signing a document confirming the existing of the bounty program, the NFL must have something major on him.

[B]Favre was hit so hard and so repeatedly in the game that the league shortly thereafter fined two Saints $25,000 for three separate illegal hits, the last leaving Favre with a badly sprained ankle. That led to NFL Films capturing Hargrove excitedly telling mates on the sidelines, while slapping their hands, "Favre is out of the game! Favre is done! Favre is done!''[/B][/quote]

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/05/02/saints.players/index.html#ixzz1tkDuH9hE]New Orleans Saints player suspensions add to historic disciplinary ruling - Peter King - SI.com[/url]

If you believe that's how a game should be played or how professionals should conduct business, I respectfully disagree and find your position - again respectfully - repugnant.

Giantone 05-02-2012 05:10 PM

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...and lets not forget,....they were WARNED and still did nothiing...over and over!

Giantone 05-02-2012 05:13 PM

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[quote=Daseal;914614]Just to put this in perspective.

Leonard Little got a DUI and killed someone with his car. Shortly after that he got ANOTHER DUI.

He missed 8 games.[/quote]

ok.. pretty sure his 8 games were from the NFL ,what happen to him in court?If you really can't tell the difference,....you're beyond help.

TheMalcolmConnection 05-02-2012 07:05 PM

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[quote=Giantone;914734]ok.. pretty sure his 8 games were from the NFL ,what happen to him in court?If you really can't tell the difference,....you're beyond help.[/quote]

Seriously?!?!?!

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

iRepDMV 05-02-2012 08:11 PM

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No Roman Harper suspension...?


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