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Raheem Morris Implementing Changes to Secondary
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/raheem-morris-implementing-changes-in-redskins-secondary/2012/06/01/gJQAO1106U_blog.html?wprss=rss_football-insider]Raheem Morris implementing changes in Redskins secondary - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url]
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Good to hear people are buying in. If we get better play in the secondary and stay healthy up front, no excuse we cant be a top 5 defense.
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That get me excited about our secondary.
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Morris can't work miracles. It's going to be a long year in the secondary. Hopefully we'll have a strong pass rush to help out.
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I was reading somewhere (might have been here) that Meriweather has been turning heads with his quality of play. That is a good sign!
Shanny may have given Morris lemons, but given what he was able to do as a secondary coach in TB, he might be able to make lemonade. |
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i beleive our secondary will be much better than last year, Raheem is known for bringing energy and getting the best out of his players, although i do wish we kept LaRon and gave him one more chane I really do think our secondary will be just fine. From the sounds of it Merriweather seems to be on track to return to his Pro Bowl form, he has the ability. The player I am most excited to see is under rated Tanard Jackson, he is a true ballhawk something we havent had in sometime, he has a nose for the ball and will playmake and create turnovers.
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As long as this new philosophy helps improve the secondary I don't care who starts or which defensive backs play in the defensive backfield. I want to see less big plays given up, more interceptions, and more hard hitting.
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It is good that we got Raheem Morris. It will lead to smarter play in the secondary.
Haslett is not good (terrible) at calling secondary plays. It is his weakness in fact. I still remember the 3rd and 20+ yards play against Dallas two season ago and Haslett called an all out blitz. Haslett called three all out blitzed in a row and we got burned. Let Hasslett run the front seven, the former LB is more comfortable with. I am concerned about the players we got for our secondary. I never liked the CB Wilson for Carlos Rogers change. That was a downgrade. Now the safety position is really a big question mark. Hopefully it will pan out. But it will be a long season season if our secondary is weak. Hopefully the pass rush can make up for the inexperience and retreads we have back there. |
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Like to see Barnes play the boundry corner rather than the slot and move D Hall inside.
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I would like to see Barnes gain 15 to 20 pounds of muscle and play safety. He does not have the change of direction speed to be a good CB in the NFL. His in line speed is good, but he gets beat when he has to change directions.
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I was expecting a need to rotate guys because we don't have a lot of talent in the secondary, but it sounds like Morris can use their strengths and keep them all fresher than the WRs they're covering.
I like using Hall in that Woodson-type role with less man-to-man coverage. He's a playmaker who can get his hands on the ball and score, but coverage is his weakness. |
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[quote=Chico23231;919557]Like to see Barnes play the boundry corner rather than the slot and move D Hall inside.[/quote]
I'd like to see Barnes play terribly for another team. |
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I'm still concerned about our secondary.
They say "Meriweather has gotten his hand on lots of balls" Well great, but who was throwing those balls? A Rookie QB or Rex Grossman? Neither is that impressive (yet). I've learned to take caution at articles like this. In years past I would read Washington Post, Redskins.com, SI, CBSsports etc articles that would say something positive about the redskins and I'd get all hyped and optimistic. Then preseason and regular season none of that which I would read about the skins improving or getting better would be shown to me. The way how some people read this is "Oh our secondary has improved by Raheem being here!" the way how I read this is "We don't know who is good and we're playing everybody everywhere in the secondary to find out who goes best, where." |
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[quote=mbedner3420;919568]I'd like to see Barnes play terribly for another team.[/quote]
well yeah me too. But with our limited cap, we decided to keep him. I think its good we are at least trying to use him in a different ways other than covering the slot where he got crushed time and time again. I still think there is a good chance he gets cut. |
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Tell DHall not to spin around in circles as much.
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I'd like to see R. Doughty cut from the team. Addition by subtraction!
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^ what other options do we have for backups? I think Doughty's spot is pretty solid.
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i'll wait to see it in at least preseason games. everything's always great when you're not actually playing anyone.
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I guess Morris is suiting up then? The only change needed is that some of our bums become someone else's problem.
Maybe Raheem will be able to "whole is greater than the sum" them up. |
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Great info, guys. Thank you.
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[quote=mbedner3420;919552][B]I was reading somewhere (might have been here) that Meriweather has been turning heads with his quality of play[/B]. That is a good sign!
Shanny may have given Morris lemons, but given what he was able to do as a secondary coach in TB, he might be able to make lemonade.[/quote] when? during a practice with no pads? he's been cut by two teams the last two years. |
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[url=http://www.buccaneers101.com/2012/06/01/source-washington-redskins-are-interested-in-tampa-bay-buccaneers-cb-aqib-talib/]Source: Washington Redskins are Interested in Tampa Bay Buccaneers CB Aqib Talib | Buccaneers 101 | Sports Media 101[/url]
Even some of the ES insider guys have mentioned this the past couple months. Not saying it will happen, but they are obviously interested. |
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[quote=CrazyCanuck;919579]Tell DHall not to [B]spin around in circles as much.[/B][/quote]
:rofl: Reminds me of an ex-girlfriends pomeranian lol. It looks like the onus is really on Morris to help this group outperform its talent level. I'm encouraged that Hall (I believe) and Barnes are in contract years and Merriweather at least has PB potential. But we still lack talent in the secondary, which means the front 7 must be really dominant to give us a reliable defense ala the Giants. |
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[quote=NC_Skins;919634][url=http://www.buccaneers101.com/2012/06/01/source-washington-redskins-are-interested-in-tampa-bay-buccaneers-cb-aqib-talib/]Source: Washington Redskins are Interested in Tampa Bay Buccaneers CB Aqib Talib | Buccaneers 101 | Sports Media 101[/url]
Even some of the ES insider guys have mentioned this the past couple months. Not saying it will happen, but they are obviously interested.[/quote] Great!! Talib and Hall, 2 punks = lots of personal fouls and bonehead plays. |
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I think we will all be pleasantly surprised with the quality of our secondary play this year. I love all the "competition" brought in, "contract years", a young energetic smack talking DB coach...could be fun to watch this defense if not right away, surely after a few games of playing together. Really, if this defense can put up top 10 production, it could be an exciting year with RG3 at the helm.
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[quote=SFREDSKIN;919642]Great!! Talib and Hall, 2 punks = lots of personal fouls and bonehead plays.[/quote]
Well Hall is a bit of a punk on the field but at least he's not a threat to society. Talib appears to be a bad dude all together. Talented guy and I know that every player can't be London Fletcher in terms of charactr.... but c'mon front office! This dude is just straight up trouble. |
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[quote=backrow;919582]I'd like to see R. Doughty cut from the team. Addition by subtraction![/quote]
Reed Doughty is a solid veteran safety. Sure, he gets beat sometimes, but what reserve safety doesn't? He's a solid veteran. |
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Morris says: "I want the DB's to learn all of the defensive backfield positions."
DHall thinks: "Now I can use my instincts to freelance." Morris says: "We want more turnovers." DHall thinks: "I need to jump more routes." Morris says: "We want hitters in our secondary." DHall thinks: "They brought in some hitters, so now I can concentrate more on going for the strip." |
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LOVE all the Raheem talk coming out of OTA's. Can't wait to see it on the field.....
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[quote=mbedner3420;919552]I was reading somewhere (might have been here) that Meriweather has been turning heads with his quality of play. That is a good sign!
Shanny may have given Morris lemons, but given what he was able to do as a secondary coach in TB, he might be able to make[B] lemonade[/B].[/quote] Could that be [B]Mike's Hard Lemonade[/B]. |
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Torrence has handed over his playbook...what a run he had his second time around
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[quote=SmootSmack;919670]Torrence has handed over his playbook...what a run he had his second time around[/quote]
Did he quit or FO decision? kinda hoping he could push for some play time |
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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;919645]I think we will all be pleasantly surprised with the quality of our secondary play this year. I love all the "competition" brought in, "contract years", a young energetic smack talking DB coach...could be fun to watch this defense if not right away, surely after a few games of playing together. Really, if this defense can put up top 10 production, it could be an exciting year with RG3 at the helm.[/quote]
I pray that you are right. Hopefully Morris will be a miracle worker. Otherwise it will be a long year in our secondary. |
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[quote=SmootSmack;919670]Torrence has handed over his playbook...what a run he had his second time around[/quote]
There's a young cornerback that the Redskins like that made Torrence expendable. Torrence is a below average corner so I wasn't expecting much from him even if he made the team somehow. |
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[quote=Chico23231;919671]Did he quit or FO decision? kinda hoping he could push for some play time[/quote]
He didn't quit |
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Morris is decisive! How long since the secondary was coached decisively?
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I like what the Skins are doing with their secondary. I believe that if a team isn't satisfied with the players they have in any unit they should try out as many players as they reasonably can for that unit until they find one or two who are keepers.
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[quote=KI Skins Fan;919681]I like what the Skins are doing with their secondary. I believe that if a team isn't satisfied with the players they have in any unit they should try out as many players as they reasonably can for that unit until they find one or two who are keepers.[/quote]
This is the reason why Landry and Atogwe are no longer in Washington. Both are very good players, but not good enough. If they were good enough they both would still be Redskins. With the additions of several defensive backs, and with a new defensive secondary coach, Mike Shanahan definitely wanted more progress in the secondary this coming season and beyond. The Redskins have definitely upgraded their secondary. No one is talking about Cedric Griffin. In my opinion, Griffin is the best of the safeties the Redskins have now. |
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[quote=skinsfan69;919551]Morris can't work miracles. It's going to be a long year in the secondary. Hopefully we'll have a strong pass rush to help out.[/quote]
Perhaps he can. When he returned to Tampa Bay in 2007, he took them from 19th ranked pass defense --> to the top ranked pass defense in one year. It's great to have a former head coach / D-coordinator take a small position like this -- hope he rejuvenates our secondary. Hard to know what to expect since it seems we're giving him average talent, but perhaps if he uses them correctly - I'm hoping they overperform this year. And yet, I'd wager that IF we struggle this year, it will most likely be due to this troubled secondary. RG3 should help our offense, but might not be able to keep up if other offenses score 50 points in games like in the past. In this pass-driven league, there is no substitute for a good / deep secondary and bruising D-line. We also have concerns in O-line, LB depth, RB, a number one WR -- but I'd say the secondary dwarfs the other issues. Hope Morris helps & stays for a while. |
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