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SmootSmack 06-15-2012 05:12 PM

NFL To Give Fans Access to "All 22"
 
This is...huge.

Only a few of us (honestly, I think maybe just one or two other people here besides me) have ever had any access to this footage. But starting next year anyone can see every angle from every play of every game...for a relatively small fee.

Trust me, you've never seen football like this before. It's remarkable to see.

[url=http://blogs.wsj.com/dailyfix/2012/06/15/the-super-secret-nfl-footage-now-for-sale/]NFL Will Release All 22 Footage - The Daily Fix - WSJ[/url]

mbedner3420 06-15-2012 05:13 PM

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Now I can't get mad at people when they say they are watching 'film' when in fact they are just re-watching a game on their dvr.

mooby 06-15-2012 05:20 PM

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I think this will help us understand the game better, and will certainly serve guys like Gtripp and SS33 break the game down better, but it will also have the potential to hurt players and open those in the NFL up to a new level of critique from fans.

That Guy 06-15-2012 05:33 PM

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this... is... awesome.

Slingin Sammy 33 06-15-2012 06:19 PM

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Awesome!!!!!

HailGreen28 06-15-2012 09:21 PM

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Very nice. I'll have to see if I can justify it this season.

tryfuhl 06-16-2012 05:37 AM

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Was surprised to see the low cost.. came here specifically to see what had been said about this

MTK 06-16-2012 10:35 AM

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Great idea, I'm in

30gut 06-16-2012 04:34 PM

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I'm shocked.
This is a great day for the hardcore football aficionado.

I wonder what this is gonna do to the level of football discussion in this forum?
I thought the NFL would never give fans access to all 22.
I bet far more will watch it then will actually understand it.
I predict the number one most heard statement fans will say when the refer to all 22:

[B][I]Receiver (insert name) was open on given play X or QB (insert name) should have thrown it to receiver (insert name)instead because the receiver was open[/I][/B]
But if you don't understand what you're looking at on all 22 most receivers look open on most of the time

or we'll hear stuff like [B][I]the RB missed the cutback lane etc...[/I][/B]

htownskinfan 06-16-2012 04:42 PM

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[quote=tryfuhl;921629]Was surprised to see the low cost.. came here specifically to see what had been said about this[/quote]

Are you rich? 69 bucks a game is not low cost to me,for the season yes.
It seems like its implying 69 a game

Hog1 06-16-2012 04:51 PM

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PERGAME? ........no

SmootSmack 06-16-2012 05:24 PM

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Pretty sure it's for the whole season. All on demand.

You won't know the play call, or what audibles may have been called. But there are too many people across the interwerbs who make assumptions in their game analysis without having been able to truly see the whole play. Hopefully this puts and end to that

That Guy 06-16-2012 06:00 PM

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now they can make all kinds of new misguided assumptions!

Mechanix544 06-16-2012 07:40 PM

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yea, many more armchair quarterbacks pointing the finger, from their living rooms. Criticism will be at an all time high.

NC_Skins 06-16-2012 07:48 PM

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So this means we'll be seeing more Gtripp posts??


**** YOU NFL!!! :censored:



Just kidding. This is nice for people who care about reviewing film and such, but nothing I will be buying. The NFL continues squeezing people out of coin, and damn if they aren't doing a good job at it as well. I think most of their stuff is overpriced as is.

budw38 06-17-2012 09:07 AM

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If only Steve Spurrier had " ALL 22 " !!!!!!

GTripp0012 06-19-2012 12:36 AM

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I think this is a smart decision by the NFL. They were facing something of a credibility issue for trying to keep the game film in limited distribution. With that said, they opened this up for public availability a lot sooner than I was honestly expecting.

30gut 06-19-2012 08:54 AM

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My fear is that the "all 22" can be easily abused or misunderstood when used improperly.

I hope that people understand that even with "all 22" there are things that we don't know which still limit the conclusions/assumptions that can be made about a given play.

Awhile back on a Titans forum I broke down some "all 22" of Jake Locker and it was crazy some of the conclusions people were making based on the plays we watched.

MTK 06-19-2012 09:03 AM

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[quote=htownskinfan;921656]Are you rich? 69 bucks a game is not low cost to me,for the season yes.
It seems like its implying 69 a game[/quote]

$69 a game would be absurd, especially when considering the Sunday Ticket is $199

30gut 06-19-2012 09:13 AM

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69 is a great number and its a hellavu cheap price for what you get

the NFL's "all 22" package gives what imo is the crown jewel of the NFL ticket, [I]condensed games[/I], at less then half the cost

Lotus 06-19-2012 09:19 AM

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[quote=30gut;921925]My fear is that the "all 22" can be easily abused or misunderstood when used improperly.

I hope that people understand that even with "all 22" there are things that we don't know which still limit the conclusions/assumptions that can be made about a given play.

Awhile back on a Titans forum I broke down some "all 22" of Jake Locker and it was crazy some of the conclusions people were making based on the plays we watched.[/quote]

People will make unwarranted assumptions/conclusions no matter what, all 22 or not, IMO.

SmootSmack 06-19-2012 09:27 AM

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[quote=30gut;921925]My fear is that the "all 22" can be easily abused or misunderstood when used improperly.

I hope that people understand that even with "all 22" there are things that we don't know which still limit the conclusions/assumptions that can be made about a given play.

Awhile back on a Titans forum I broke down some "all 22" of Jake Locker and it was crazy some of the conclusions people were making based on the plays we watched.[/quote]

Oh I see, so you just prance around from team to team forum...you forum whore!

Seriously though, out of curiosity how'd the forum get access to the "all 22"

firstdown 06-19-2012 09:49 AM

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Is the package all 22 while doing a 69. That could be a lot of fun.

mooby 06-19-2012 10:13 AM

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[quote=firstdown;921935]Is the package all 22 while doing a 69. That could be a lot of fun.[/quote]

I tried to laugh, but something told me refusing to endorse this statement would be a wise move.

SmootSmack 06-19-2012 10:59 AM

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[url=http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8070933/the-film-launch-thousand-questions-sources-offseason-stories]The film that will launch a thousand questions and the sources of offseason stories - Grantland[/url]

30gut 06-19-2012 11:35 AM

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[quote=Lotus;921929]People will make unwarranted assumptions/conclusions no matter what, all 22 or not, IMO.[/quote]
But it opens the door wide open for loud and incorrect spurious claims that [I][B]seem[/B][/I] correct and when presented to a casual fan could be pawned off as true.

30gut 06-19-2012 11:42 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;921931]Oh I see, so you just prance around from team to team forum...you forum whore!

Seriously though, out of curiosity how'd the forum get access to the "all 22"[/quote]lol, yeah I guess I am kinda a football whore/nerd.
I am fan of football and therefore the NFL as a whole, I admittedly follow and root for some non-B&G players and am a member of a couple other teams forums.
But make no mistake I bleed burgandy and gold.

There was an OL from Washington Ben Ossai #79 who posted a bunch of games 2010 Huskie games on youtube (I assume with permission from their athletic department).
I believe they're still available but I'm at work and can't see youtube.

Lotus 06-19-2012 11:44 AM

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[quote=30gut;921955]But it opens the door wide open for loud and incorrect spurious claims that [I][B]seem[/B][/I] correct and when presented to a casual fan could be pawned off as true.[/quote]

I don't disagree with you.

But my understanding of human nature tells me that such is already happening. To me the all 22 will simply change what is talked about, not how people talk about it. IMO.

SmootSmack 06-19-2012 11:45 AM

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[quote=30gut;921957]lol, yeah I guess I am kinda a football whore/nerd.
I am fan of football and therefore the NFL as a whole, I admittedly follow and root for some non-B&G players and am a member of a couple other teams forums.
But make no mistake I bleed burgandy and gold.

There was an OL from Washington Ben Ossai #79 who posted a bunch of games 2010 Huskie games on youtube (I assume with permission from their athletic department).
I believe they're still available but I'm at work and can't see youtube.[/quote]

Oh it was Huskies games, not Titans games.

SmootSmack 06-19-2012 11:47 AM

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[quote=Lotus;921958]I don't disagree with you.

But my understanding of human nature tells me that such is already happening. To me the all 22 will simply change what is talked about, not how people talk about it. IMO.[/quote]

I hope that now people will finally realize how little information some armchair analysts actually have, and that those same analysts will be more forthcoming in what they have access to. No more misleading the reader, just be honest about what you see

30gut 06-24-2012 10:04 PM

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[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/22-replays-seem-great-really-seeing-160237483--nfl.html]All-22 replays seem great, but what are we really seeing? | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

SmootSmack 07-23-2012 03:29 PM

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[url=http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2012/7/23/3178220/nfl-coaches-film-online]NFL Announces Expanded Digital Product Line, Including Coaches Film And A Telestrator For Fans - SBNation.com[/url]

Monkeydad 07-23-2012 03:56 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;926050][URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2012/7/23/3178220/nfl-coaches-film-online"]NFL Announces Expanded Digital Product Line, Including Coaches Film And A Telestrator For Fans - SBNation.com[/URL][/quote]

I could see a lot of people here becoming obsessed with posting their telestrator screens.

I tried it out...works great!
[IMG]http://oi47.tinypic.com/25z3rxc.jpg[/IMG]

FrenchSkin 07-23-2012 06:18 PM

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This is great news! I've always thought team sports are filmed to close, this is a huge step toward giving the fans a chance to really understand the game.

I wished they had released this product earlier though, I just bought the NFL GamePassSeasonPlus, that includes one year of this:

"Live and Archived NFL Games
2012 Preseason Games - Live
2012 Regular Season Games - Live
2009 - 2011 Season Archives
HD Video with DVR Controls
Mobile/Tablet Access
Condensed Games
Big Play Markers
Quad View Mode
2012 Coaches Film
NFL RedZone - Live
Classic Super Bowl Games
NFL Network Streaming Live
› Plus Select Archived Shows
NFL Network Coverage of Live NFL Events:
› NFL Scouting Combine
› NFL Draft
› Free Agency
› Training Camp
2012 Playoff Games - Live
› Wild Card Round
› Divisional Round
› Conference Championship
Super Bowl XLVII - Live
Access to all features throughout the Offseason"

but no "All 22" package

htownskinfan 07-23-2012 06:41 PM

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[quote=FrenchSkin;926082]This is great news! I've always thought team sports are filmed to close, this is a huge step toward giving the fans a chance to really understand the game.

I wished they had released this product earlier though, I just bought the NFL GamePassSeasonPlus, that includes one year of this:

"Live and Archived NFL Games
2012 Preseason Games - Live
2012 Regular Season Games - Live
2009 - 2011 Season Archives
HD Video with DVR Controls
Mobile/Tablet Access
Condensed Games
Big Play Markers
Quad View Mode
2012 Coaches Film
NFL RedZone - Live
Classic Super Bowl Games
NFL Network Streaming Live
› Plus Select Archived Shows
NFL Network Coverage of Live NFL Events:
› NFL Scouting Combine
› NFL Draft
› Free Agency
› Training Camp
2012 Playoff Games - Live
› Wild Card Round
› Divisional Round
› Conference Championship
Super Bowl XLVII - Live
Access to all features throughout the Offseason"

but no "All 22" package[/quote]

How much was this package and who did you purchase it from?
Maybe the coaches film is the"all 22"

SmootSmack 07-23-2012 06:51 PM

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If I recall correctly, All 22 is not available internationally

FrenchSkin 07-23-2012 07:00 PM

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[quote=htownskinfan;926084]How much was this package and who did you purchase it from?
Maybe the coaches film is the"all 22"[/quote]

I purchased it from nfl.com , it's for people who live outside the USA. Cost 199 dollars (but it's 159 euros so it seems a bit cheaper ˆˆ).

Too bad All In isn't available internationally, I would certainly have bought a game or two.

FrenchSkin 08-05-2012 06:12 PM

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[quote=htownskinfan;926084]
Maybe the coaches film is the"all 22"[/quote]

I just checked, actually "the coaches film" is the game, play by play, filmed from far enough so you can see all the players. I wouldn't watch a whole game like that because there is no sound but it's really great to understand some plays, like TDs or INTs.

mbedner3420 08-05-2012 06:31 PM

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Anyone know if there is a good site to stream the HOF game tonight? I don't have NFLN, so I need a decent site.

skinsfaninok 08-05-2012 06:39 PM

[QUOTE=mbedner3420;928663]Anyone know if there is a good site to stream the HOF game tonight? I don't have NFLN, so I need a decent site.[/QUOTE]

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