Republican National Convention 2012
 

Since the free for all thread is a cluster F of different debates and topics, lets keep strictly to the RNC speakers/events here.

I'll throw one of these up for the DNC when that rolls around as well.

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REPUBLICANS! F**k YEAH!

Best joke I've heard so far though about the RNC is that with Hurricane Issac the Republicans only have to pretend to like Romney for 3 days instead of 4.

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[url=http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/democrats-hit-romney-for-outsourcing-on-billboard]Democrats Hit Romney For Outsourcing On Billboard Facing GOP Convention[/url]

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This says it a little better. I read an article today about the Tea Party which stated that what started out as a movement about reducing government spending and involvement in our lives turned into a chance for the radical Christian Right to come in and tack on issues like outlawing abortion and gay marriage and in turn redefine the tea party all without being labeled as the Radical Christian Right. It's basically the same premise as a shady business man that has screwed customers starting another business under a new name then shortly thereafter resorting to the same business practices that got them their shady reputation.

While it's obvious that the show is bias towards liberal views I do agree with the scenes conclusion which is basically the Tea Party gave the Radical Christian Right, which has slowly continued to become less and less relevant in American politics, a chance to get back into the fray by using the tea party movement as a stepping stone.

I am pleased though that more and more moderates and liberterians are finding their way into the Republican base. Hopefully in the near future it will allow the party to wane off the radical Christian Right completely and get back to focusing on big issues like the economy and foreign policy. And to think the Republican party use to be the party that was all about Civil Rights.

Keep in mind I have no problem or quarrel with Christianity. Rather I have a problem with people who turn and twist the Bible to blur the lines between separation of Church and State as well as justify bigotry and sexism.

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This says it a little better. I read an article today about the Tea Party which stated that what started out as a movement about reducing government spending and involvement in our lives turned into a chance for the radical Christian Right to come in and tack on issues like outlawing abortion and gay marriage and in turn redefine the tea party all without being labeled as the Radical Christian Right. It's basically the same premise as a shady business man that has screwed customers starting another business under a new name then shortly thereafter resorting to the same business practices that got them their shady reputation.

While it's obvious that the show is bias towards liberal views I do agree with the scenes conclusion which is basically the Tea Party gave the [B]Radical Christian Right, which has slowly continued to become less and less relevant in American politics[/B], a chance to get back into the fray by using the tea party movement as a stepping stone.

I am pleased though that more and more moderates and liberterians are finding their way into the Republican base. Hopefully in the near future it will allow the party to wane off the radical Christian Right completely and get back to focusing on big issues like the economy and foreign policy. And to think the Republican party use to be the party that was all about Civil Rights.

Keep in mind I have no problem or quarrel with Christianity. Rather I have a problem with people who turn and twist the Bible to blur the lines between separation of Church and State as well as justify bigotry and sexism.[/quote]

I don't see their relevance as eroding at all...unfortunately. To me...a fiscal conservative, they are the worst thing in American politics. They give conservatism a bad name.

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Well this should be an interesting night. I'm hoping for some gaffes but that probably won't happen.

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Read they are turning away Ron Paul busses from the convention and Ron Paul supporters got into it with Romney supporters.

Gotta love in-fighting.

[url=http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/chaos-on-the-gop-convention-floor]Chaos On The GOP Convention Floor[/url]

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[quote=DynamiteRave;934934]Read they are turning away Ron Paul busses from the convention and Ron Paul supporters got into it with Romney supporters.

Gotta love in-fighting.

[url=http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/chaos-on-the-gop-convention-floor]Chaos On The GOP Convention Floor[/url][/quote]

The part that scares me is when they talk about stuff like the heavy emphasis on "strengthening our military." Aren't they suppose to be the ones to reduce spending? I know Paul Ryan is one of the few members of the GOP with enough guts to even talk about auditing the pentagon and limiting military spending but it looks like every one else is itching to go to war with Iran.

Do they not remember Iraq where they tortured people to get them to say the information they wanted to hear and ended up spending a trillion dollars to essentially kill one evil dictator that did not have any nuclear weapons due to unreliable information that was gathered by torture.

4 years later begging for a second chance and I just can't help but shake the feeling that they're going to repeat the same stupid mistakes.

At this rate I'm starting to wonder if we're better off electing Obama. At least then gay marriage will have a shot and Roe vs Wade won't be overturned by the GOP "activist judges."

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if anyone wants to go into iran, i hope that also want to be drafted and mortgage their house to foot the costs.

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[url=http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/08/ron-paul-supporters-rebel-convention-floor-****-you-tyrants?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter]Mojo - August 2012 | Mother Jones[/url]


LOL at the GOP unity.

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[url=http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/cnn-republican-convention-black-camerawoman.php]RNC Attendee Allegedly Threw Nuts At Black CNN Camerawoman, Said ‘This Is How We Feed The Animals’ | TPM2012[/url]


Nah, these guys aren't racists.

[quote]The CNN official declined to confirm specific details of the incident to TPM but generally confirmed an account posted on Twitter by former MSNBC and Current anchor David Shuster: “GOP attendee ejected for throwing nuts at African American CNN camera woman + saying ‘This is how we feed animals.’”[/quote]

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[quote=DynamiteRave;934934]Read they are turning away Ron Paul busses from the convention and Ron Paul supporters got into it with Romney supporters.

Gotta love in-fighting.

[url=http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/chaos-on-the-gop-convention-floor]Chaos On The GOP Convention Floor[/url][/quote]


These people need to take their vote away from the Republican party and put it elsewhere. Once the Republicans lose that vote, they'll be forced to contend with the RP supporters.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;935035]The part that scares me is when they talk about stuff like the heavy emphasis on "strengthening our military." Aren't they suppose to be the ones to reduce spending? I know Paul Ryan is one of the few members of the GOP with enough guts to even talk about auditing the pentagon and limiting military spending but it looks like every one else is itching to go to war with Iran.

Do they not remember Iraq where they tortured people to get them to say the information they wanted to hear and ended up spending a trillion dollars to essentially kill one evil dictator that did not have any nuclear weapons due to unreliable information that was gathered by torture.

4 years later begging for a second chance and I just can't help but shake the feeling that they're going to repeat the same stupid mistakes.

At this rate I'm starting to wonder if we're better off electing Obama. At least then gay marriage will have a shot and Roe vs Wade won't be overturned by the GOP "activist judges."[/quote]Rand Paul has also been a proponent of keeping the Pentagon in check....and I agree.

Also, Iraq was based on intel from Clinton hold-over George Tenat and had massive bi-partisan support.

If ObamaCare survived the SCOTUS, no way Roe v. Wade comes anywhere close to being overturned.

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[quote=NC_Skins;935086][url=http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/cnn-republican-convention-black-camerawoman.php]RNC Attendee Allegedly Threw Nuts At Black CNN Camerawoman, Said ‘This Is How We Feed The Animals’ | TPM2012[/url]


Nah, these guys aren't racists.[/quote]

Disgraceful. I suppose it's hard to expect anything less with all the dog whistles being blown.

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Priceless incompetence...yields priceless ending:

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[quote=NC_Skins;935086][URL="http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/cnn-republican-convention-black-camerawoman.php"]RNC Attendee Allegedly Threw Nuts At Black CNN Camerawoman, Said ‘This Is How We Feed The Animals’ | TPM2012[/URL]


Nah, these guys aren't racists.[/quote]We've seen these accusations before, they're not always true. Also note: "The identity of the attendee was not immediately known, and it was not clear whether the person was a delegate or just someone with a ticket to the convention center."

“CNN can confirm there was an incident directed at an employee inside the Tampa Bay Times Forum earlier this afternoon,” the network said in a statement. “CNN worked with convention officials to address this matter and will have no further comment.”

Don't know if this was a setup by someone trying to make the GOP look bad. However, this was a single person and he was ejected and dealt with. And if it was an actual GOP person, let's not damn the entire GOP because of one out of 20K...even if the guy is a complete PoS moron.

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Don't know if this was a setup by someone trying to make the GOP look bad.[/quote]


...........anyone else want to touch this?:doh:

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Watching John McCains speech now and reminded why I was uneasy about the prospect of him winning the presidency. Much easier to reduce spending on a couple of programs then it is to get out of a war and McCain is a war time president that in spite of our financial crisis wants to keep fighting the world. Romney makes me uneasy to in that respect but he's still a business man at heart and usually war is bad for business. McCain on the other hand was and is a solider and I can now say for certain that Obama was the lesser of two evils in the the 2008 campaign.

[QUOTE]Ray Hussein Obama ‏@CoronaRay
#tcot #lnyhbt John McCain: WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR!!
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[QUOTE]Bert ‏@fortis79
John McCain eats war, drinks war, sleeps war & dreams war. He is obsessed with war. #GOPWarMonger
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The above is apparently an actual quote straight from McCain.

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I listened to less than 5 minutes of Mike Huckabee talking tonight and I wish he would talk himself off a cliff.

Santorum and Huckabee are some horrible human beings from a moral standpoint. My God.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;934424]This says it a little better. I read an article today about the Tea Party which stated that what started out as a movement about reducing government spending and involvement in our lives turned into a chance for the radical Christian Right to come in and tack on issues like outlawing abortion and gay marriage and in turn redefine the tea party all without being labeled as the Radical Christian Right. It's basically the same premise as a shady business man that has screwed customers starting another business under a new name then shortly thereafter resorting to the same business practices that got them their shady reputation.[/quote]

Speaking of the TeaParty, I saw this picture the other day and thought about this discussion.


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[quote=NC_Skins;935362]Speaking of the TeaParty, I saw this picture the other day and thought about this discussion.


[IMG]http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/484108_10150971680421332_1142671395_n.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

That post is full of win. Gonna save it and share it on my facebook now. :)

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^^ lol that's some serious pwnage right there, served up raw dog style

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[quote=Dirtbag59;935293]Watching John McCains speech now and reminded why I was uneasy about the prospect of him winning the presidency. Much easier to reduce spending on a couple of programs then it is to get out of a war and McCain is a war time president that in spite of our financial crisis wants to keep fighting the world. Romney makes me uneasy to in that respect but he's still a business man at heart and usually war is bad for business. McCain on the other hand was and is a solider and I can now say for certain that Obama was the lesser of two evils in the the 2008 campaign.





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The above is apparently an actual quote straight from McCain.[/quote]

How many other countries has Obama taken us? The only people I here talking about going into Iran is the left accusing the right of wanting to attack Iran. Hell I don't even know Mits stance on Iran.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;935035]The part that scares me is when they talk about stuff like the heavy emphasis on "strengthening our military." Aren't they suppose to be the ones to reduce spending? I know Paul Ryan is one of the few members of the GOP with enough guts to even talk about auditing the pentagon and limiting military spending but it looks like every one else is itching to go to war with Iran.

Do they not remember Iraq where they tortured people to get them to say the information they wanted to hear and ended up spending a trillion dollars to essentially kill one evil dictator that did not have any nuclear weapons due to unreliable information that was gathered by torture.

4 years later begging for a second chance and I just can't help but shake the feeling that they're going to repeat the same stupid mistakes.

At this rate I'm starting to wonder if we're better off electing Obama. At least then gay marriage will have a shot and Roe vs Wade won't be overturned by the GOP "activist judges."[/quote]

Can you post any links of Mit or Ryan itching to go to war with Iran. You can support a strong military and make it stronger by auditing the pentagon. If the Military has a budget of a certain $ amount every dollar of waste found in an audit is another dollar that they can spend on something else.

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[quote=firstdown;935443]Can you post any links of Mit or Ryan itching to go to war with Iran. You can support a strong military and make it stronger by auditing the pentagon. If the Military has a budget of a certain $ amount every dollar of waste found in an audit is another dollar that they can spend on something else.[/quote]

[url=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57323686-503544/romney-gingrich-at-gop-debate-wed-go-to-war-to-keep-iran-from-getting-nuclear-weapons/]Romney, Gingrich at GOP debate: We'd go to war to keep Iran from getting nuclear weapons - Political Hotsheet - CBS News[/url]


[quote]Updated Nov. 13, 1:00 a.m. Eastern Time

SPARTANBURG, S.C. -- Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich said at the Republican presidential debate here Saturday night that they would be willing to go to war to keep Iran from attaining nuclear weapons if all other strategies failed.

Romney said that if "crippling sanctions" and other strategies fail, military action would be on the table because it is "unacceptable" for Iran to become a nuclear power.[/quote]

[url=http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/mitt-romney-says-he-could-wage-war-on-iran-without-congress-approval/question-2759769/]Mitt Romney Says He Could Wage War on Iran Without Congress' Approval[/url]

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In regards to Paul Ryan's speech he performed.

[url=http://factcheck.org/2012/08/ryans-vp-spin/]FactCheck.org : Ryan’s VP Spin[/url]


Full of bullshit as I'm sure you already knew. Then again, people don't want to know the truth, they want the person to say what they want to hear.

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[quote=NC_Skins;935471]In regards to Paul Ryan's speech he performed.

[url=http://factcheck.org/2012/08/ryans-vp-spin/]FactCheck.org : Ryan’s VP Spin[/url]


Full of bullshit as I'm sure you already knew. Then again, people don't want to know the truth, they want the person to say what they want to hear.[/quote]

The script looks good, the acting is immaculate, the substance and seriousness, well that's substantially lacking. He is a good looking man though so that could make up for his deficiencies.

I can't wait for their concession speeches.

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[quote=NC_Skins;935460][URL="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57323686-503544/romney-gingrich-at-gop-debate-wed-go-to-war-to-keep-iran-from-getting-nuclear-weapons/"]Romney, Gingrich at GOP debate: We'd go to war to keep Iran from getting nuclear weapons - Political Hotsheet - CBS News[/URL]




[URL="http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/mitt-romney-says-he-could-wage-war-on-iran-without-congress-approval/question-2759769/"]Mitt Romney Says He Could Wage War on Iran Without Congress' Approval[/URL][/quote]

That's not what Mit said here is what he siad:

Romney said that if "crippling sanctions" and other strategies fail, [B]military action would be on the table[/B] because it is "unacceptable" for Iran to become a nuclear power.

He never said he would go to war with iran he said the option would be on the table. Stop twisting their words to make it what you want.

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That Clint Eastwood thing sure was bizarre huh

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What a shit show it end up being. I actually thought Romney gave a good speech, not great. But the Eastwood call was a bad bad decision.

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I only saw a very small part of the speech had friends over for a few cold drinks and playing bag toss (cornhole and drinking just does not sound right). Why was Clint E talking to an empty chair. Looked stupid. Heard they could not get him off the stage and he went way over his alotted time.

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[quote=Mattyk;935790]That Clint Eastwood thing sure was bizarre huh[/quote]

It was entertaining to say the least....lol.

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[quote=12thMan;935852]What a shit show it end up being. I actually thought Romney gave a good speech, not great. But the Eastwood call was a bad bad decision.[/quote]The Eastwood call wasn't a bad decision.....letting Eastwood go out there essentially unscripted was.

He did have a couple great lines between the uhhhs, aahhhhs, and "I can't do that to myselfs": “We own this country . . . We’re the best and we should not ever forget that,”. and “When someone isn’t doing the job, we’ve got to let [him] go.”

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From here until the day I die….I will always view Republicans as crazy, rich, white old men who hate and yell at the imaginary minorities that they think are out to get them.

Thank you Clint for giving me the imagery of the perfect conservative.

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[quote=Hijinx;936055]From here until the day I die….I will always view Republicans as crazy, rich, white old men who hate and yell at the imaginary minorities that they think are out to get them.

Thank you Clint for giving me the imagery of the perfect conservative.[/quote]
Well if you were rich and listened to Obama you would think that. That's all he ever talks about because he cant run on his record.

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[quote=Hijinx;936055]From here until the day I die….I will always view Republicans as crazy, rich, white old men who hate and yell at the imaginary minorities that they think are out to get them.

Thank you Clint for giving me the imagery of the perfect conservative.[/quote]Unfortunate you have such a narrow viewpoint. I guess, Rubio, Jindal, Halley, Susana Martinez, Condi, Lynn Swann, JC Watts, Alan West, and so many others won't change your opinon.

I try to view Dems without a narrow-minded sterotype and let each person's words/actions define him/her....oh well, naive me.

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Brilliant as always:

[url=http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-30-2012/rnc-2012---the-road-to-jeb-bush-2016---mitt-romney--a-human-who-built-that]RNC 2012 - The Road to Jeb Bush 2016 - Mitt Romney: A Human Being Who Built That - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 08/30/12 - Video Clip | Comedy Central[/url]

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[quote=saden1;936108]Brilliant as always:

[URL="http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-30-2012/rnc-2012---the-road-to-jeb-bush-2016---mitt-romney--a-human-who-built-that"]RNC 2012 - The Road to Jeb Bush 2016 - Mitt Romney: A Human Being Who Built That - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 08/30/12 - Video Clip | Comedy Central[/URL][/quote]Loved the Nimoy narration....funny stuff.