2013 Free Agents
 

So some of you are upset with the play of some of our guys whether its, the OL not blocking, the secondary can't cover, we don't have depth here or there, so the next time you all are upset come to this thread and check out some of these FA who could be on our team next year. I'm putting down some names of guys that could be on our team.

Jake Long OT 28 Dolphins-- May not be a perfect fit for a ZBS, but he's the best LT in the league right now. May be franchised.

Brent Grimes CB 30 Falcons--Is a very good CB, BUT, he torn his achilles and is 30.

Victor Cruz WR 26 Giants-- He is going to be restricted so maybe a lot of money and possibly picks.

Wes Welker WR 32 Patriots--Very good Slot WR, but will be 32, and not a Key need for us, but is better than our slot guy now, Moss.

Sebastian Vollmer OT 28 Patriots-- Solid RT. Definitely an upgrade with what we have now, he seems athletic for ZBS, but is occasionally injured.

Ed Reed FS 34 Ravens--Not much needs to be said here. IF he hit the market and is still willing to play, he's definitely worth a 1 year deal. Darren Sharper New Orleans comes to mind.

[B]Ryan Clady[/B] OT 26 Broncos--Obviously he'd be a target with Shanahan drafting him, and him being a natural in the ZBS, but would Denver let him walk...

Jarius Bryd FS 26 Bills--Good FS, had an amazing rookie year, has been solid, is a good depth signing, could pan out better somewhere else.

Jason Jones DT/DE 27 Seahawks--Would be a great fit with the 3-4 being that he's played DE and DT in the 4-3 real well. 3-4 End depth?

Kenny Philips FS 26 Giants-- Division rival; solid FS.

Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB 27 Eagles--Very good, young, athletic CB, division rival.

[B]Aqib Talib[/B] CB 27 Bucs--Very possible he'll be wearing our colors next year with CB need and Bruce Allen drafting him. Headcase off the field though.

LaRon Landry SS 28 Jets--Odds that he wants to come back here, slim to none..still crazier things have happened in this league in terms of returning.

Sam Shields CB 25 Packers--Solid 3rd string CB. Good returner as well.

Cary Williams CB 26 Ravens--Very solid rangy CB. Is he good because of his defense and the fact he plays opposite Webb? Or is he just good?

Jermon Bushrod OT 29 Saints--Hasn't had a good year this year and is used to being Brees LT blocking for all of 2 seconds for him.

Brandon Albert OT 28 Chiefs--Really solid tackle, would probably be a great RT here opposed to a LT in KC. Can also play OG and is athletic.

DJ Moore CB 26 Bears-- Very good CB, gets a lot of big picks.

[B]DaShon Goldso[/B]n FS 28 49ers--Probably the best young FS in the league. He can cover well and really level someone too.

Darrell Revis CB 28 Jets--He's not going anywhere, but he's the best CB in the NFL, hands down, and is worth the money.

Mike Jenkins CB

Sean Smith CB

Jabarri Greer CB

Quentin Jammer CB

Antonie Cason CB

Patrick Chung FS 26 New England-- gets injured often, but has experience and is solid when healthy.

Anotine Caldwell OG 26 Houston--knows our offense and is young.

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Skins won't have much dough to throw around next year either. Focus probably needs to be on fixing the defense and continiuing to draft starting-caliber prospects in round 2 and later. I think a shift to the 4-3 would be a boost to the current front seven. Years ago, there seemed to be a slew of DE/LB tweeners coming out of college that fit the 3-4 scheme. Skins decided to switch to the 3-4 when that trend was fading, forcing perhaps prototypical 4-3 DEs Kerrigan and Orakpo (4-3 DE Jenkins, 4-3 DT Cofield) into a 3-4 scheme. But there has been a lot ot talk about that in other threads already.

Trent Williams and his contract deserves a look over. What will be his status for next off-season? Skins need to somehow aquire two quality OTs and a safety this ofseason. I think a significant reason the secondary sucks so bad right now is the lack of pass rush generated with this 3-4 front played by guys who aren't thriving in it in addition to DBs who are in over their head with the coverages that the coaches are drawing up. Will this be another off-season of more questions than answers?

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Already?
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I wonder if they take Visa/Mastercard cause -35 mill. Exactly how much money was spent on Defense last year?? Not enough.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;944431]So some of you are upset with the play of some of our guys whether its, the OL not blocking, the secondary can't cover, we don't have depth here or there, so the next time you all are upset come to this thread and check out some of these FA who could be on our team next year. I'm putting down some names of guys that could be on our team.

Jake Long OT 28 Dolphins-- May not be a perfect fit for a ZBS, but he's the best LT in the league right now. May be franchised.

Brent Grimes CB 30 Falcons--Is a very good CB, BUT, he torn his achilles and is 30.

Victor Cruz WR 26 Giants-- He is going to be restricted so maybe a lot of money and possibly picks.

Wes Welker WR 32 Patriots--Very good Slot WR, but will be 32, and not a Key need for us, but is better than our slot guy now, Moss.

Sebastian Vollmer OT 28 Patriots-- Solid RT. Definitely an upgrade with what we have now, he seems athletic for ZBS, but is occasionally injured.

Ed Reed FS 34 Ravens--Not much needs to be said here. IF he hit the market and is still willing to play, he's definitely worth a 1 year deal. Darren Sharper New Orleans comes to mind.

[B]Ryan Clady[/B] OT 26 Broncos--Obviously he'd be a target with Shanahan drafting him, and him being a natural in the ZBS, but would Denver let him walk...

Jarius Bryd FS 26 Bills--Good FS, had an amazing rookie year, has been solid, is a good depth signing, could pan out better somewhere else.

Jason Jones DT/DE 27 Seahawks--Would be a great fit with the 3-4 being that he's played DE and DT in the 4-3 real well. 3-4 End depth?

Kenny Philips FS 26 Giants-- Division rival; solid FS.

[U]Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB 27 Eagles--Very good, young, athletic CB, division rival.[/U]

[B]Aqib Talib[/B] CB 27 Bucs--Very possible he'll be wearing our colors next year with CB need and Bruce Allen drafting him. Headcase off the field though.

LaRon Landry SS 28 Jets--Odds that he wants to come back here, slim to none..still crazier things have happened in this league in terms of returning.

[I][COLOR="Red"]Sam Shields CB 25 Packers--Solid 3rd string CB. Good returner as well.

Cary Williams CB 26 Ravens--Very solid rangy CB. Is he good because of his defense and the fact he plays opposite Webb? Or is he just good?[/COLOR][/I]

Jermon Bushrod OT 29 Saints--Hasn't had a good year this year and is used to being Brees LT blocking for all of 2 seconds for him.

Brandon Albert OT 28 Chiefs--Really solid tackle, would probably be a great RT here opposed to a LT in KC. Can also play OG and is athletic.

DJ Moore CB 26 Bears-- Very good CB, gets a lot of big picks.

[B]DaShon Goldso[/B]n FS 28 49ers--Probably the best young FS in the league. He can cover well and really level someone too.

Darrell Revis CB 28 Jets--He's not going anywhere, but he's the best CB in the NFL, hands down, and is worth the money.

[I][COLOR="red"]Mike Jenkins CB

Sean Smith CB

Jabarri Greer CB

Quentin Jammer CB[/COLOR][/I]

[U]Antonie Cason CB[/U]

Patrick Chung FS 26 New England-- gets injured often, but has experience and is solid when healthy.

Anotine Caldwell OG 26 Houston--knows our offense and is young.[/quote]


Started looking through DBs and I Italicized and put in red the ones that should NOT be on this list. They are rated worse than our CBs we have now.


I underlined the guys who are rated highly/underrated who are in our range. DRC will most likely be re-signed by the eagles.

It's very early to look at 2013 but I'd def like clady at RT, and a few dbs mentioned for sure.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;949075]It's very early to look at 2013 but I'd def like clady at RT, and a few dbs mentioned for sure.[/quote]

Yeah, understandable. I was just looking at both teams players tonight on defense and thought they all had great CB play. We have poor CB play we need a starting CB (assuming we'd move Hall or Wilson to the slot as a 3rd CB). So I looked through PFF and Bleacher Reports scouting website and saw the CBs that consistently came up as good and the ones that came up as bad. And thats what I did above is crossed out (Put their names in Red) the ones that are bad.

I'm also just keeping this thread somewhat alive, because we all know, that once we lose a game because a player 'blew the game' or 'consistently got beat' that they'll want to know who could we replace them with or get next year to fix that, since we don't have a first rounder.

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i was really hoping goldson could have hit the market this year, i'm a fan of his.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;949073]Started looking through DBs and I Italicized and put in red the ones that should NOT be on this list. They are rated worse than our CBs we have now.


I underlined the guys who are rated highly/underrated who are in our range. DRC will most likely be re-signed by the eagles.[/quote]

I've heard the eagles are not really that happy with how DRC has been playing and his cost. Not saying that he wouldnt be an upgrade, but would he be worth the price he is guaranteed to fetch?

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[quote=los panda;949127]i was really hoping goldson could have hit the market this year, i'm a fan of his.[/quote]

Pretty sure Pro football focus and a few of the other stat sites grade him out as below average. Which is still a step up for us, but he's gonna be way over paid.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;944431]So some of you are upset with the play of some of our guys whether its, the OL not blocking, the secondary can't cover, we don't have depth here or there, so the next time you all are upset come to this thread and check out some of these FA who could be on our team next year. I'm putting down some names of guys that could be on our team.

Jake Long OT 28 Dolphins-- May not be a perfect fit for a ZBS, but he's the best LT in the league right now. May be franchised.

Brent Grimes CB 30 Falcons--Is a very good CB, BUT, he torn his achilles and is 30.

Victor Cruz WR 26 Giants-- He is going to be restricted so maybe a lot of money and possibly picks.

Wes Welker WR 32 Patriots--Very good Slot WR, but will be 32, and not a Key need for us, but is better than our slot guy now, Moss.

Sebastian Vollmer OT 28 Patriots-- Solid RT. Definitely an upgrade with what we have now, he seems athletic for ZBS, but is occasionally injured.

Ed Reed FS 34 Ravens--Not much needs to be said here. IF he hit the market and is still willing to play, he's definitely worth a 1 year deal. Darren Sharper New Orleans comes to mind.

[B]Ryan Clady[/B] OT 26 Broncos--Obviously he'd be a target with Shanahan drafting him, and him being a natural in the ZBS, but would Denver let him walk...

[B]Jarius Bryd [/B]FS 26 Bills--Good FS, had an amazing rookie year, has been solid, is a good depth signing, could pan out better somewhere else.

Jason Jones DT/DE 27 Seahawks--Would be a great fit with the 3-4 being that he's played DE and DT in the 4-3 real well. 3-4 End depth?

[B]Kenny Philips [/B]FS 26 Giants-- Division rival; solid FS.

[B]Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie [/B]CB 27 Eagles--Very good, young, athletic CB, division rival.

[B]Aqib Talib[/B] CB 27 Bucs--Very possible he'll be wearing our colors next year with CB need and Bruce Allen drafting him. Headcase off the field though.

LaRon Landry SS 28 Jets--Odds that he wants to come back here, slim to none..still crazier things have happened in this league in terms of returning.

[B]Sam Shields [/B]CB 25 Packers--Solid 3rd string CB. Good returner as well.

[B]Cary Williams [/B]CB 26 Ravens--Very solid rangy CB. Is he good because of his defense and the fact he plays opposite Webb? Or is he just good?

Jermon Bushrod OT 29 Saints--Hasn't had a good year this year and is used to being Brees LT blocking for all of 2 seconds for him.

[B]Brandon Albert [/B]OT 28 Chiefs--Really solid tackle, would probably be a great RT here opposed to a LT in KC. Can also play OG and is athletic.

[B]DJ Moore [/B]CB 26 Bears-- Very good CB, gets a lot of big picks.

[B]DaShon Goldso[/B]n FS 28 49ers--Probably the best young FS in the league. He can cover well and really level someone too.

[B]Darrell Revis [/B]CB 28 Jets--He's not going anywhere, but he's the best CB in the NFL, hands down, and is worth the money.

Mike Jenkins CB

Sean Smith CB

Jabarri Greer CB

Quentin Jammer CB

Antonie Cason CB

Patrick Chung FS 26 New England-- gets injured often, but has experience and is solid when healthy.

[B]Anotine Caldwell [/B]OG 26 Houston--knows our offense and is young.[/quote]

I would be happy with any of the guys I put in bold - the rest i either dont see as a necessity rite now (cruz) or dont want because of age/injury/etc

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[quote=Mechanix544;949144]I've heard the eagles are not really that happy with how DRC has been playing and his cost. Not saying that he wouldnt be an upgrade, but would he be worth the price he is guaranteed to fetch?[/quote]

Yes, IMO he's worth it. In todays NFL, the CB's that do good or great jobs are typically (With Revis and Patrick Peterson the main exceptions) 6'1 or taller. Look at Seattles great secondary. Their starting CBs are both over 6'3. The WRs get taller, therefore the CBs need to get bigger. Plus DRC is physical, and Fast. The thing with him which people haven't tried yet, is putting him at FS too. I think he'd be great there too.

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[quote=Evilgrin;949191]Pretty sure Pro football focus and a few of the other stat sites grade him out as below average. Which is still a step up for us, but he's gonna be way over paid.[/quote]he's not a complete player, but so few safeties are today. i agree, i was even surprised he was franchised, he'll be overpaid. at the time it was more of an argument of him vs landry. i favored goldson, but would i prefer an elderly ed reed, you bet your boots.

this is fantasy camp anyways, are either of these guys going to visit the skins next year? i doubt it.

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[quote=los panda;949199]he's not a complete player, but so few safeties are today. i agree, i was even surprised he was franchised, he'll be overpaid. at the time it was more of an argument of him vs landry. i favored goldson, but would i prefer an elderly ed reed, you bet your boots.

this is fantasy camp anyways, are either of these guys going to visit the skins next year? i doubt it.[/quote]

I wonder how much of Goldson is good because of his defense or because he's great, or both.

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We still have 15 more games to play this year.

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[quote=firstdown;949215]We still have 15 more games to play this year.[/quote]

Now thats the spirit!
Just because we are going to win them all though doesnt mean we cant continue to upgrade?

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[quote=firstdown;949215]We still have 15 more games to play this year.[/quote]

I like the way you THINK.

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Ok 15 more games or 12 more games, we'll still needs guys in FA!

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[quote=CultBrennan59;949251]Ok 15 more games or 12 more games, we'll still needs guys in FA![/quote]

So they are going to be available tomorrow?

FA lists are more useful in February than October. It is nice to know early on who may be available, but a lot things change.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;949251]Ok 15 more games or 12 more games, we'll still needs guys in FA![/quote]

Can't you wait till the season is over or we are out of playoff contention to do so?

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why wait? who cares? why give a thumbs down instead of not posting at all? don't listen to the hatters, cult.

if you don't want to discuss the topic, then don't. you don't have to hatt

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[quote=los panda;949260]why wait? who cares? why give a thumbs down instead of not posting at all? don't listen to the hatters, cult.

if you don't want to discuss the topic, then don't. you don't have to hatt[/quote]


Isn't it a moot point considering we are at the cap, and have a 18 mil cap charge against us from capgate?


I doubt we'll be spending much.

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somewhere between none and much, i'm fairly certain we'll be signing a free agent. cult went through the trouble of researching and studying in advance, but you're free to cram when the exam approaches.

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-18 million in cap space again will prevent us from filling huge needs.

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[quote=CapitalDefense;949280]-18 million in cap space again will prevent us from filling huge needs.[/quote]what do you define as huge needs?

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[quote=CapitalDefense;949280]-18 million in cap space again will prevent us from filling huge needs.[/quote]

Thats what we said last year, and we ended up with Garcon, Morgan, Merriweather, Madieu Williams, Cedric Griffin, Tanard Jackson, Hightower, Grossman, Rackers and we still hadn't signed RG3 the rest of our rookies, and cundiff. So yes, we can still get a good FA or two. And like I said, this thread will be around all year, whether we win out or lose.

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I think we might be able to sign more FA prospects than we think despite cap limitations. Players may want to come to our team now that we have shown we are close to being very competitive. With RG3, we'll have our highlights / primetime games on ESPN, and so they could advertising money in a big market in addition to salary. Also, we could backload the contracts to pay them big in their second year.

Also, we get Chase Minifield and Tanard Jackson back next year. Both have big question marks but also some promise.

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Whats our #1 priority in the offseason? We have alot of needs and limited cap space.

If we were only concerned about winning in 2013, i think its got to be the secondary. We wont be any better than we are this year if our defense can't stop opposing quarterbacks from throwing touchdown passes. However, if we're looking at the bigger picture, i'd say we've got to overhaul the offensive line. RG3 will not survive if we dont give him better protection.

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Safety/Secondary to me. OLine, as bad as it is seems to be hanging on.

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MLB big time also

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Outside of RT I think our line is in good shape.

The secondary has to be our top priority, no doubt.

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[quote=Evilgrin;950837]MLB big time also[/quote]

That is so far down the list. Secondary #1 priority. OL #2. Depth everywhere else 3#

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In order of need:

1. CB
2. RT
3. FS
4. K
5. CB

[QUOTE=Chico23231;950846]In order of need:

1. CB
2. RT
3. FS
4. K
5. CB[/QUOTE]

Im gonna just switch one and two. I would rather put protection around rg-3 and win shootouts Depending on whats available though i could see it exactly how you have it.


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[quote=punch it in;950912]Im gonna just switch one and two. I would rather put protection around rg-3 and win shootouts Depending on whats available though i could see it exactly how you have it.


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Agreed. Like Matty is saying, our OL is actually gelling pretty damn well considering our rushing average.

But when it comes to passing, EVERY TIME you see the protection break down it looks like it's coming from Polumbus' side.

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Naw, CB for me. D Hall done after this year with his cap number. We could flip the number we owe him and get someone much better and younger. I wouldnt stop there with CB and would add another through the draft. Matching another draft pick with promising Crawford, they could battle for the nickle position. Also in FA next year, there will be very decent crop of talent.

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Unless Jamal Brown can come back and play exceptionally well, I see him as good as gone. DeAngelo Hall makes too much money for the big plays he gives up. If the Redskins ever pursued Darrelle Revis, I hope they don't toss too much money his way like what happened with Haynesworthless. But Revis would be an upgrade over Hall but he'll be coming off a ACL injury. Look for the Redskins to continue to develop Crawford #39. He's an excellent prospect who could be a starter by 2014.

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RT, S,CB, MLB, & OL depth/and or starters. I'd get Rogers-Cromartie if price is right and is available. We need taller db's....

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[quote=VTSkins1961;951015]RT, S,CB, MLB, & OL depth/and or starters. I'd get Rogers-Cromartie if price is right and is available. [B]We need taller db's....[/B][/quote]

We should consider making a trade for Richard Sherman (6'3) in Seattle. Dude is very young, very good and was a beast last year.

Our top priorities should be safety and RT. The safety position is easily the worst in the D.

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