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RedskinRat 10-03-2012 10:30 AM

Romo not that good - Theismann
 
Shame this couldn't have been 'news' closer to our game with them:

[URL="http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/headlines/20121002-ex-redskin-joe-theismann-blasts-tony-romo-jerry-jones.ece"]Romo not that good - Theismann[/URL]

[I]"Soon or later we have to come to the realization that Tony isn't a very good quarterback," Theismann told Brady & Lang on Sportsnet 590 The Fan Tuesday. "He throws interceptions that (make) you shake your head. If it's all the wide receivers' fault then maybe he should get some new wide receivers, or they need to come up with some new route combinations that guys can understand."[/I]
[I]Romo matched a career high with five interceptions, two of them returned for touchdowns as the Bears won 34-18 on Monday night.[/I]
[I]"What hit me last night is, Tony isn't really that good," Theismann said. "Just because he wears a star on his helmet -- we all think that people who are Dallas Cowboys, 'ooh they're wonderful and ooh they're terrific, ooh they're the next Roger Staubach' or whatever the heck they want to say. They're full of bologna.[/I]

CrustyRedskin 10-03-2012 10:44 AM

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Romo did break Staubachs TD record the other night. But Joe's right. Romo's good but I dont think he's as good as many think.

scowan 10-03-2012 10:48 AM

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I think Romo is a little bit of a Gunslinger like Favre use to be and Cutler can be at times. Let me throw it out there and see if my guy can make a play. Sometimes he looks great and other times, it seems like he is just throwing it up. I think as a CB or Safety, you can definitely peek into the back field and watch his eys and get a jump.

Monksdown 10-03-2012 10:53 AM

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I dont disagree with Joe, but out of habit i will anyway. Joe sucks. Tony Romo can make throws with his left hand that Joe couldnt even pretend to make with his right. Tony takes chances. Joe think's he's god's gift to us. screw him.

skinsfaninok 10-03-2012 11:17 AM

Romo is a good qb IMO, look at his overall numbers and record it's pretty good. He's not Brady or Manning or Rodgers etc but he's no scrub

Monksdown 10-03-2012 11:20 AM

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I've seen Romo dodge pressure that there is no way he could actually see. He has a sixth sense in the pocket. It's frustrating.

skinsfan69 10-03-2012 11:21 AM

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JT is dead wrong here. If Romo was a Redskin and did what he did Mon. night he'd be ripping the wr's, just like Gruden was. Yeah Romo is risk taker but so what? That's part what makes him a good QB.

Lotus 10-03-2012 11:33 AM

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Joey Sunshine is a little over-the-top here. While I have no love for Romo, he consistently puts up numbers which are much better than a QB who is "not that good."

NC_Skins 10-03-2012 11:35 AM

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This is the same guy that thought Jason Campbell was a good QB? Yeah, he doesn't have a clue apparently about good QBs.

MTK 10-03-2012 11:42 AM

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Over the top perhaps, what he should have said is Romo is overrated and still makes too many dumb decisions that a guy with his experience just shouldn't make. Romo is in the 2nd tier of QBs in the league, good but not great.

GhettoDogAllStars 10-03-2012 11:48 AM

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I lived in Dallas for 9 years, and I am friends with many Cowboys fans. My general impression is that Romo is underrated by the fans, not overrated. I hear Cowboys fans often say how much Romo sucks, and I'm constantly reminding them what their team was like with Quincy Carter and Drew Bledsoe. During the time between Aikman and Romo the Cowboys were one of the worst teams in the league.

Lotus 10-03-2012 11:49 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;948523]Over the top perhaps, what he should have said is Romo is overrated and still makes too many dumb decisions that a guy with his experience just shouldn't make. Romo is in the 2nd tier of QBs in the league, good but not great.[/quote]

I would agree with your assessment. You should be Joey Sunshine's spokesperson, Matty. :)

SmootSmack 10-03-2012 11:49 AM

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I think SmootSmack is right when he said the other day that Romo is good but not likely to get much better than he already is. He's kind of reached Frerotte status now, and with Kyle Orton as the backup the Cowboys really have no future at QB while the Redskins have RG3 and KC1

Yeah that's right. SmootSmack just talked about SmootSmack in the 3rd person.

Monksdown 10-03-2012 12:03 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;948529]I think SmootSmack is right when he said the other day that Romo is good but not likely to get much better than he already is. He's kind of reached Frerotte status now, and with Kyle Orton as the backup the Cowboys really have no future at QB while the Redskins have RG3 and KC1

Yeah that's right. SmootSmack just talked about SmootSmack in the 3rd person.[/quote]

SmootSmack(temporarily)=Joe Theismann

Chico23231 10-03-2012 12:04 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;948529]I think SmootSmack is right when he said the other day that Romo is good but not likely to get much better than he already is. He's kind of reached Frerotte status now, and with Kyle Orton as the backup the Cowboys really have no future at QB while the Redskins have RG3 and [B]KC1[/B]
Yeah that's right. SmootSmack just talked about SmootSmack in the 3rd person.[/quote]

nice

Alvin Walton 10-03-2012 12:10 PM

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Having Tony Romo for a QB is like nailing the prom queens butchy looking sister instead of the prom queen.

FRPLG 10-03-2012 12:18 PM

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Romo has ability but being a good QB is about more than being smart enough to know the offense and physically able enough to execute it. You still have to have the demeanor and personality to make the right decisions when the bullets are firing. He isn't very good at that.

donofriose 10-03-2012 12:52 PM

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Tony Romo is an above average QB. That is all he is. He can put up numbers but never can put up wins. He has not been very impressive this year at all. The Cowboys put up 16 points against Tampa... Redskins put up 24 with a rookie QB who honestly is playing better than Romo.

Once you put expectations on him, he never preforms. If you have none for him than he plays very well. He is nothing special. Just happens to play for the Cowboys.

Monksdown 10-03-2012 12:54 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;948535]Having Tony Romo for a QB is like nailing the prom queens butchy looking sister instead of the prom queen.[/quote]

I'm all in if the prom queen watches.

REDSKINS4ever 10-03-2012 01:20 PM

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Romo isn't exactly a bad QB. He's a good QB who had a really bad game. As many bad games as Theismann has had towards the end of his career especially, he really shouldn't talk. But I understand where he's coming from. New York Giant fans are bragging so much about Eli Manning, his 21 comeback wins and 2 Super Bowl wins, that they hate the comparisons between Manning and Romo. After Romo threw all those picks the other day, they don't want to hear anymore comparisons between those two QBs. What the Giants fans fail to realize is that Eli Manning has looks as dreadful as Romo did this last game every once in a while.

Gary84Clark 10-03-2012 01:29 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;948519]This is the same guy that thought Jason Campbell was a good QB? Yeah, he doesn't have a clue apparently about good QBs.[/quote]


Look, Joe is my favorite Redskin QB ever. I am too young to have seen Sammy Baugh play. Joe knows about winning Super Bowls and he knows what he is talking about. Romo is horrible. Romo threw the ball up "softly"/"cowardly" in Dez's general area and it's a pick six, Romo's specialty. So what Dez didn't adjust his route (bad coaching) but that ball was gonna be picked anyway. Film study told Tillman the safety blitz was gonna cause this clown to loft a pick 6 out there (bad coaching). Pick sixes and lofting soft balls when pressured, are tendacies of Romo.

scowan 10-03-2012 02:38 PM

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Yes its only a 4 game sample, but doesn't RG3 seem to make much better decisons than Romo with the football? I use to worry so much everytime Sexy Rexy went back to pass that he would make the right decision because on TV you can't see the secondary, until the throw, but RG3 has sort of eliminated that fear as I watch games now. Miles Austin makes Romo look good at times when Romo makes a bad throw, but Dez does not and that's what killed Romo on Monday night.

los panda 10-03-2012 02:51 PM

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super beta prostate

Evilgrin 10-03-2012 04:11 PM

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Theisman can always say I didn't say he wasn't good, I said he wasn't "very good". Because he likes to pretend like he's super smart football man. The organization seems pretty dysfunctional, so I think everyone has to give Romo some credit. Jerry seems kinda insane from a distance?

Skinzman 10-03-2012 04:38 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;948535]Having Tony Romo for a QB is like nailing the prom queens butchy looking sister instead of the prom queen.[/quote]

Having Romo as a QB is like taking the prom queen to prom. Getting her in the bedroom later, getting almost there, then she says no.

Can excite you but never satisfies you.

los panda 10-03-2012 04:54 PM

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[quote=Skinzman;948659]Having Romo as a QB is like taking the prom queen to prom. Getting her in the bedroom later, getting almost there, then she says no.

Can excite you but never satisfies you.[/quote]she [romo] wouldn't say no, she'd expose big ol' mr knish (kah-nish)

romo is willing, he wants it, he just has the wrong "tools"

RedskinRat 10-03-2012 05:36 PM

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[quote=los panda;948662]she [romo] wouldn't say no, she'd expose big ol' mr knish (kah-nish)

romo is willing, he wants it, he just has the wrong "tools"[/quote]

[IMG]http://www.eleuthera.com/vomiting.jpg[/IMG]

Hog1 10-03-2012 05:50 PM

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[quote=Monksdown;948503]I dont disagree with Joe, but out of habit i will anyway. [B]Joe sucks[/B]. Tony Romo can make throws with his left hand that Joe couldnt even pretend to make with his right. Tony takes chances. Joe think's he's god's gift to us. screw him.[/quote]
I will have to admit JT is a little on the......mouthy side, BUT I do not think you.......Know Joe.
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Theismann]Joe Theismann - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]
Highly talented in everything he has done.......

skinsfaninok 10-03-2012 05:55 PM

[QUOTE=GhettoDogAllStars;948526]I lived in Dallas for 9 years, and I am friends with many Cowboys fans. My general impression is that Romo is underrated by the fans, not overrated. I hear Cowboys fans often say how much Romo sucks, and I'm constantly reminding them what their team was like with Quincy Carter and Drew Bledsoe. During the time between Aikman and Romo the Cowboys were one of the worst teams in the league.[/QUOTE]

Exactly

Ruhskins 10-03-2012 06:15 PM

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;948526]I lived in Dallas for 9 years, and I am friends with many Cowboys fans. My general impression is that Romo is underrated by the fans, not overrated. I hear Cowboys fans often say how much Romo sucks, and I'm constantly reminding them what their team was like with Quincy Carter and Drew Bledsoe. During the time between Aikman and Romo the Cowboys were one of the worst teams in the league.[/quote]

I think Romo is good, but not good enough to meet the media/public expectations.

takethecake 10-03-2012 06:36 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;948690]I think Romo is good, but not good enough to meet the media/public expectations.[/quote]

Agree. I also think that he will never win a superbowl. Not a shocking proclamation, but despite being a good QB, he just doesn't play well in December/playoffs. He also doesn't get much help from his team, but...

hagams 10-03-2012 07:26 PM

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Romo, as much as I hate to say is in the upper-middle class of QB's. I think Jerry Jones hit the nail on the head when he said "All our caliber guys, are running out of time". Romo has been beat up on, chewed up, and spit about by everyone in the NFL including Dallas. I don't think I can point at that team and say _____________ is holding them back. They just don't execute. At least we had a reason to suck for almost 2 decades.

Monkeydad 10-04-2012 09:56 AM

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;948496]Romo did break Staubachs TD record the other night. But Joe's right. Romo's good but I dont think he's as good as many think.[/quote]

You mean in his 5-INT game?

Having the longest leash ever to allow him to play that many games doesn't say anything about his actual abilities. Dallas has had to play from behind a lot too thanks to Jerry's mismanagement of the team. They've had a RBBC in the backfield for years and have been a pass-first team. Jon Kitna would have put up those same numbers without the boneheaded, game-costing errors. Kyle Orton would probably be an upgrade honestly. They should try him out as the starter before the season ends...he'd be a cheaper option going forward and they could make the upgrades in his supporting cast that they need.

Romo was a nice story, being undrafted and starting...but the experiment should be over after 10 years. How many playoff games have they won with Romo? One. They've only won one playoff game since 1997. Even we've won two playoff games in that span without a franchise QB. They're 1-4 under Romo in the playoffs. He's not the answer. Unforunately for Dallas, when Jerry Jones selects his "guys", he sticks with them stubbornly for longer than makes sense because he hates to be wrong. This is why Romo is still their QB and why Jason Garrett is still the head coach. Garrett should have been nothing more than an interim coach. Rob Ryan or Bill Callahan would be better and are more qualified. I think one of them will take over this season when Garrett is so bad he has to be fired. It's an interesting scenario when the assistant coaches are more qualified than the head coach. It makes you wonder if Jones hired them as fallbacks for Garrett, so he can promote one of them rather than having to look outside of the organization...like Jones is expecting Garrett to fail despite his public manlove for him.




Staubach was infinitely better than Romo.

firstdown 10-04-2012 10:05 AM

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Romo is just good enough for Dallas to keep hanging on to him and thinking he can take them to the SB. Fine with me because I feel he has proven over and over he is good enough to be looked at as a star QB but chokes when it counts.

firstdown 10-04-2012 10:09 AM

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[quote=Monkeydad;948826]You mean in his 5-INT game?

Having the longest leash ever to allow him to play that many games doesn't say anything about his actual abilities. Dallas has had to play from behind a lot too thanks to Jerry's mismanagement of the team. They've had a RBBC in the backfield for years and have been a pass-first team. Jon Kitna would have put up those same numbers without the boneheaded, game-costing errors. Kyle Orton would probably be an upgrade honestly. They should try him out as the starter before the season ends...he'd be a cheaper option going forward and they could make the upgrades in his supporting cast that they need.

Romo was a nice story, being undrafted and starting...but the experiment should be over after 10 years. How many playoff games have they won with Romo? One. They've only won one playoff game since 1997. Even we've won two playoff games in that span without a franchise QB. They're 1-4 under Romo in the playoffs. He's not the answer. Unforunately for Dallas, when Jerry Jones selects his "guys", he sticks with them stubbornly for longer than makes sense because he hates to be wrong. This is why Romo is still their QB and why Jason Garrett is still the head coach.




Staubach was infinitely better than Romo.[/quote]

Not to stand up for Jerry but wasn't it the Bill P who pulled Romo off the bench and made him the starter. Now he is playing good enough to be the starter but not good enough to take them to the SB.

CrustyRedskin 10-04-2012 10:33 AM

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[quote=firstdown;948828]Not to stand up for Jerry but wasn't it the[U][B] Bill P who pulled Romo off the bench[/B][/U] and made him the starter. Now he is playing good enough to be the starter but not good enough to take them to the SB.[/quote]

For a few years down here they thought Bill Parcells found him in a manger wrapped in swaddling clothes.

53Fan 10-04-2012 11:02 AM

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Romo's like a box of chocolates.

JoeRedskin 10-04-2012 11:31 AM

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I hope when Garrett is done after this year, they hire Ryan so that he can turn the Cowboys into same the sh**storm that his brother has turned the Jets into.

REDSKINS4ever 10-04-2012 12:37 PM

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Romo truly showed against the Bears why he went undrafted.

MTK 10-04-2012 12:40 PM

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;948884]Romo truly showed against the Bears why he went undrafted.[/quote]

21,982 yards passing with 154 TDs and a 95.9 rating for his career so far says otherwise


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