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REDSKINS4ever 12-01-2012 01:01 PM

Victor Cruz's comments
 
Just a question: how should Victor Cruz comments about the Redskins not being a legitimate contender be taken? Is it disrespect? Should it be perceived that he was running his mouth? Or was he telling the truth that the Redskins are just a few pieces away from actually contending? The Redskins have the team to contend NOW and make a run at the post season. I for one feels he should stfu and play football.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/tb/d93Aq?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=washington-redskins]Cruz: Redskins not 'legitimate' contenders | CSN Washington[/url]

RedskinRat 12-01-2012 01:16 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
Isn't Cruz just some dancer who plays WR for the second best team in the NFC East?

Who cares?

Gmanc711 12-01-2012 02:49 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
It should be taken as disrespectful.

If you read the full quote, its truth, but its not something you say to an opponent, in my opinion.

Hog1 12-01-2012 02:59 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
Love it! Love it! Love it!
Could not have come at a better time for locker room Bulletin Board......
HTTR!

REDSKINS4ever 12-01-2012 03:01 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
It makes me happier to see him lying on his back in the in the end zone after Ryan Clark blasted him weeks back. He wasn't salasa dancing then, was he?

SFREDSKIN 12-01-2012 03:44 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
Question:

Don't we need some CB's, S, RT?

I guess he's partially right, we won't know if the Redskins are legitimate until they kick some Giant ass on Monday night. Right? If we lose are the Redskins a legitimate playoff team?

Giantone 12-01-2012 04:28 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;969489]Just a question: how should Victor Cruz comments about the Redskins not being a legitimate contender be taken? Is it disrespect? Should it be perceived that he was running his mouth? Or was he telling the truth that the Redskins are just a few pieces away from actually contending? The Redskins have the team to contend NOW and make a run at the post season. I for one feels he should stfu and play football.

[URL="http://bleacherreport.com/tb/d93Aq?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=washington-redskins"]Cruz: Redskins not 'legitimate' contenders | CSN Washington[/URL][/quote]

If you are trying to start something that isn't there go ahead but at least look at the whole thing in the right context.

[url=http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/WR-Victor-Cruz-on-divisional-matchup/b243a144-c0b4-4f84-abb2-110a7e568f20]WR Victor Cruz on divisional matchup[/url]

Pigskins 12-01-2012 05:11 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
I really don't understand why other teams fans post here??? I don't have the time to post on the skins forum that often and I really don't have time to post on a giants or cowboys forum

44ever 12-01-2012 05:15 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
[quote=Giantone;969507]If you are trying to start something that isn't there go ahead but at least look at the whole thing in the right context.[/quote]


oh it's there...

Pigskins 12-01-2012 05:18 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
Yeah it's def there, he will pay on monday

CultBrennan59 12-01-2012 05:34 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
[quote=Pigskins;969510]Yeah it's def there, he will pay on monday[/quote]

Or Madieu Williams will pay...we'll see!

53Fan 12-01-2012 05:34 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;969505]Question:

Don't we need some CB's, S, RT?

I guess he's partially right, we won't know if the Redskins are legitimate until they kick some Giant ass on Monday night. Right? If we lose are the Redskins a legitimate playoff team?[/quote]

I've always found that when a player from another team makes derogatory remarks about your team...the best remedy is to go out and thoroughly kick their ass. Hopefully that's the way we handle it and Mr. Salsa will think twice about what he chooses to say about us in the future.

Giantone 12-01-2012 05:36 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
[quote=44ever;969509]oh it's there...[/quote]

[B]Q: I know it’s hard to keep track of all the other teams, is there a sense that Washington is a team on the rise in your division and a contender, at that?
[/B]A: I think so. I think they have a really good team and it all starts with RGIII. I think they’re definitely a good team and they’re definitely a team that can do some good things. I would definitely say they’re on the rise, for sure.

yeah, real hateful.:nono:

Giantone 12-01-2012 05:38 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
[quote=53Fan;969512]I've always found that when a player from another team makes derogatory remarks about your team...[/quote]


???

Defensewins 12-01-2012 05:38 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
It is the truth and it is not disrespectful. In fact Cruz went out his way to speak truthfully and not be disrespectful. This is a stupid thread.

SmootSmack 12-01-2012 06:17 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
Guess you could turn anything into bulletin board material. I don't see the big deal here

53Fan 12-01-2012 06:19 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
Who the f*** is he to say we're a couple of pieces away from being a "legitimate" contender for the playoffs and things like that? It's not a sure thing that he's going. He's a WR and that's all he is. He's hardly qualified to say who's legit and who isn't.

Gary84Clark 12-01-2012 06:48 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
Get his ass!!!!!!

InsanePianist 12-01-2012 07:01 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
I'm expecting a blowout. Dem skins are gonna be pumped up. Hope Cruz doesn't catch a pass.

NC_Skins 12-01-2012 07:03 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
[quote=Defensewins;969515]It is the truth and it is not disrespectful. In fact Cruz went out his way to speak truthfully and not be disrespectful. This is a stupid thread.[/quote]


Pretty much this. The dude could have said something about the weather, and fans would turn it into a "HE"S DISRESPECTING US!!" type of thing.

InsanePianist 12-01-2012 07:11 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2012/11/30/deangelo-hall-agrees-with-victor-cruz-redskins-still-have-work-to-do/"]DHall agrees with Cruz - Washingtonpost[/URL]

Holes in our roster will step up this week.

RGIII 12-01-2012 07:36 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
[quote=Hog1;969502]Love it! Love it! Love it!
Could not have come at a better time for locker room Bulletin Board......
HTTR![/quote]

I'm not yet sure this team gets pumped over bulletin board material. They're usually the victims of it though, even when little has been said.

psycoskin 12-01-2012 07:55 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
Hopefully skins get the win Monday then Victor and crew can put that in thier chunky soup and suck on it!

Alvin Walton 12-01-2012 08:59 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
Victor Cruz can eat the fuzzies outa my buttcrack.

That Guy 12-02-2012 12:09 AM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
he didn't say anything most skins fans haven't said already. there's no story here.

Meks 12-02-2012 01:06 AM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
We will take it as hater-isms... d hall will make him pay, then let him.cash in, but ultimately make.him pay again.... somehow I SWEAR! LOL #dhall

tryst1540 12-02-2012 03:41 AM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
I think his comments were true but also inappropriate. Regardless of what thinks of the Redskins he should have never publically degrade them weather it's true or not. One thing that he should have learned from his teammate Andrell Rolle is that you do not give your opposing team bulletin board material.

When it comes to our team I don't think they should care one way or the other. If they need Cruz to motive them then they aren't ready to play this game. The Giants are going to come in here at their best. They will not underestimate RG3 or this Redskin team. Our guys have to focus on the the task at hand and not what Victor Cruz is saying about them. If he's wrong go out on the field and prove it. I'm not just talking about this game. Go out there for the next 5 games and prove it.

44ever 12-02-2012 08:56 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
[quote=Giantone;969513][B]Q: I know it’s hard to keep track of all the other teams, is there a sense that Washington is a team on the rise in your division and a contender, at that?
[/B]A: I think so. I think they have a really good team and it all starts with RGIII. I think they’re definitely a good team and they’re definitely a team that can do some good things. I would definitely say they’re on the rise, for sure.

yeah, real hateful.:nono:[/quote]

"Good team"... The nerve of that bastard!

SkinzzFan 12-02-2012 10:38 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
He was asked a question, he answered it. If the Redskins players needed THIS to motivate them then they're more than a few pieces from contending. Seriously, this is ridiculous. Stop being so damn sensitive. Too many times people throw around the word "respect" but I've found that less and less people actually know what that word even means. The ones who scream for it the most typically are those who show the least to others anyway. Victor Cruz thinks we're a few pieces from contending...it's his opinion, but not one he offered up on his own, he was answering a question. I apologize for my tirade here, but now I'm disrespecting my last Corona and that's worse than anything Victor Cruz could possibly say. LOL.

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!

hooskins 12-03-2012 12:15 AM

He's absolutely right. And who cares? So childish to get worked up over an honest assessment. If bulletin board material is needed, over just the sheer importance of the game, that's just sad.

It's about X's and O's and execution. Complete non story IMO.

Coff 12-03-2012 07:22 AM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
No big deal; in fact Cruz's comments were more complimentary than anything. And even if the Skins do try to make it bulletin board material, it won't be enough to offset DHall's comments from after the first match-up.

53Fan 12-03-2012 11:40 AM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
I don't think the Redskins need bulletin board material or that anyone has implied they do. I just don't like what he said and that's just the way it is. We've beat them 2 out of the last 3. We're obviously legitimate enough to kick their ass and that's all Cruz needs to worry about. I'm sure not gonna waste my time defending him...he can go screw hisself for all I care. I tend to agree with the writer who said,"RGIII instantly makes the Redskins legitimate." I think I'll go with that. Gosh...I hope I didn't treat him unfairly. Phhhtttt.

hooskins 12-03-2012 02:33 PM

[QUOTE=53Fan;969860]I don't think the Redskins need bulletin board material or that anyone has implied they do. I just don't like what he said and that's just the way it is. We've beat them 2 out of the last 3. We're obviously legitimate enough to kick their ass and that's all Cruz needs to worry about. I'm sure not gonna waste my time defending him...he can go screw hisself for all I care. I tend to agree with the writer who said,"RGIII instantly makes the Redskins legitimate." I think I'll go with that. Gosh...I hope I didn't treat him unfairly. Phhhtttt.[/QUOTE]

Fair enough. But in the end rings are what define legitimate to me. The transitive property is really just a way skins fans justify our inconsistencies.

Monkeydad 12-03-2012 02:59 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
Victor, you dancing fool. This is how your night will go...you may pull a fast one on us early on but at the end of the night, you'll find yourself used and abused like a toilet.

[img]http://5.mshcdn.com/wp-content/gallery/top-10-gifs-of-the-week-8182012/wta5d.gif[/img]

KLHJ2 12-03-2012 03:40 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
Reading this thread takes me back to my elementary school days on the playground. There was nothing wrong with what Cruz said. Some of us need to grow up.

Monkeydad 12-03-2012 03:54 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
The dude's mom dresses like a bobblehead.

MTK 12-03-2012 03:55 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
Much less has been used as BB material by teams. Cruz probably shouldn't have elaborated as much as he did.

hooskins 12-03-2012 05:06 PM

[QUOTE=Mattyk;969964]Much less has been used as BB material by teams. Cruz probably shouldn't have elaborated as much as he did.[/QUOTE]

It definitely has, but I still think its quite juvenile and a bit lame professionals feel they need that sort of spark to get going.

I'm not usually the type to blame the "media" but maybe a story is being made out of nothing. I don't really know who is to blame, just that I don't like it. I feel it takes away from the actual game on the field.

firstdown 12-03-2012 05:49 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
[quote=hooskins;969989]It definitely has, but I still think its quite juvenile and a bit lame professionals feel they need that sort of spark to get going.

I'm not usually the type to blame the "media" but maybe a story is being made out of nothing. I don't really know who is to blame, just that I don't like it. I feel it takes away from the actual game on the field.[/quote]

The fact people treat sports as news is a good start. I'm sorry a player talking about another team is not breaking news and we don't need alerts. Its almost scary how people follow these stars and they're every word like thay are something special. They are just people with a really cool job.

Giantone 12-03-2012 06:11 PM

Re: Victor Cruz's comments
 
[quote=Monkeydad;969963]The dude's mom dresses like a bobblehead.[/quote]


.............and gets paid very well for doing it.


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