School Shooting In Connecticut
 

It just makes my stomach turn as I read this news report. How the hell can someone just go into an elementary school and start shooting at kids. I'm lost for words.


[url=http://news.msn.com/us/shooting-reported-at-connecticut-elementary-school]Multiple deaths reported in shooting at Conn. school[/url]

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Most recent news:


There's been a shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut
The shooter is now dead, at least three people wounded
Below are the latest updates as they come to us

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Horrible. I saw some pictures of the kids being led out of the school. The looks on their faces were completely heartbreaking

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[quote=SmootSmack;975381]Horrible. I saw some pictures of the kids being led out of the school. The looks on their faces were completely heartbreaking[/quote]

Saw the same pics but the good news they are coming out on their own.

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CBS News is saying 27 dead, including 18 children (and I think the principal?)

Shooting apparently started in the hallway and continued in a kindergarten classroom

There are no words

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unbelievable. one day we will learn about guns. so sad

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I'm seriously on the verge of tears and feel physically from reading this. All of these mass shootings are horrendous but to target an elementary school is just beyond evil.

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Why would you kill little kids? What ungodly reason could there be for shooting 7 year olds? This is it for me, I've had it with the second amendment. Ban it all!

What a shame. These kids are helpless and innocent. wtf?? Piece of shit pussy

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I just saw the number dead is 26. Don't know what to say.

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Wow, this is just ridiculous. Those poor kids.

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What the **** has gone wrong with people? Really? Don't bother capturing these assholes. Do us a favor and shoot them.

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While I don't 'agree' with any mass shooting. Going off in a place full of children is just beyond demented. Really a very, very sad day. The worst part is, I can't think of an effective way to stop these creeps.

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Is it true there were two shooters?

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[quote=SmootSmack;975424]Is it true there were two shooters?[/quote]


Who knows. I just know I'll hug my daughter just a little tighter tonight.

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disgusting. thoughts and prayers to the victims and their families

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Its unfathomable. Its a shame the shooter had such a quick and easy death. The man should have been caught and tortured.

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This is the world I brought two children into.

I can't even say anything, to kill a child I mean really.

Honest to god fawk this society something is wrong with this fawking country. Too much of this shit now a days.

I am really sad and angry at the same time.

I am trying really hard not to make this political and neither should anyone else.

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At some point the finger has to be pointed at the people who are here to protect us. How could this happen? I know the details are not out yet but I just don't get how this happens.

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very sad indeed!! can you imagine how scared those kindergarteners in that room were and how scarred the once that survived will be?? unbelievable!!

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[quote=hooskins;975443]I am really sad and angry at the same time.

I am trying really hard not to make this political and neither should anyone else.[/quote]

Nothing political about it. How as a society are we letting monsters like this breed and grow.

There is probably no answer; it is just awful.


I just volunteered in my son's pre-k class today. To imagine someone walking in there just blows my mind.

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[quote=SmootSmack;975400]CBS News is saying 27 dead, including 18 children (and I think the principal?)

Shooting apparently started in the hallway and continued in a kindergarten classroom

There are no words[/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I try to volunteer with underprivileged elementary school kids every year. Today I happened to spend my morning with 22 kindergarteners. After walking out of that classroom and hearing this on the radio I am completely lost as to how a person could be humanly capable of doing what just happened. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Thoughts & prayers for all involved. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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[quote=SkinsGuru;975446]very sad indeed!! can you imagine how scared those kindergarteners in that room were and how scarred the once that survived will be?? unbelievable!![/quote]

Oh yeah. IT is a hellish ripple effect he stole more lives then just the body count. When is the next time a kid from that class would step into a classroom?

[QUOTE=mredskins;975448]Nothing political about it. How as a society are we letting monsters like this breed and grow.

There is probably no answer; it is just awful.


I just volunteered in my son's pre-k class today. To imagine someone walking in there just blows my mind.[/QUOTE]

You just went political there....

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[quote=hooskins;975451]You just went political there....[/quote]

Whatever dude, I am just really pissed right now.

I am sorry for all the families and their losses.

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[quote=mlmpetert;975449][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I try to volunteer with underprivileged elementary school kids every year. Today I happened to spend my morning with 22 kindergarteners. After walking out of that classroom and hearing this on the radio I am completely lost as to how a person could be humanly capable of doing what just happened. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Thoughts & prayers for all involved. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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Exactly it hits home hard to us that are with children this age. My son is nearly 5. It is just so painful to think their are monsters out their that want to kill him.

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This is horrible and tragic. I can't imagine anyone, anyone at all, who would be heartless enough to take the lives of children like this. This is pure evil, plain and simple. My heart, thoughts, and prayers go out to the victims and their families. I hope in the face of this massacre, they find some comfort and peace to help them through this. Though, it won't be easy.

I would please just caution people on starting political arguments about gun laws and understand that the real issues are much deeper than guns. I believe every state needs to look at their mental healthcare programs, as we know nobody who would do such a thing is in his or her right mind.

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[quote=mredskins;975445]At some point the finger has to be pointed at the people who are here to protect us. How could this happen? I know the details are not out yet but I just don't get how this happens.[/quote]
So you think authorities should have put armed police in every elementary school? You can't prevent stuff like this from happening otherwise

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Killed his father at home Went to the school and killed his mother (a teacher there), shot a bunch of kids execution style. How?? Why????

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;975460]So you think authorities should have put armed police in every elementary school? You can't prevent stuff like this from happening otherwise[/quote]

Yup you are right but just seem all to frequent now a days.

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This is a very sad situation. And as many posters have said it hits home to those of us with younger children. There have been an unusually high number of school related shootings and attempts this year. If you have kids please keep your ear to the ground as to whats going on in their school life. In Baltimore County where I teach we have had two gun incidents at schools and several that have been avoided because of observant and vigilant teachers and parents.

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[quote=skinsguy;975459]This is horrible and tragic. I can't imagine anyone, anyone at all, who would be heartless enough to take the lives of children like this. This is pure evil, plain and simple. My heart, thoughts, and prayers go out to the victims and their families. I hope in the face of this massacre, they find some comfort and peace to help them through this. Though, it won't be easy.

I would please just caution people on starting political arguments about gun laws and understand that the real issues are much deeper than guns. I believe every state needs to look at their mental healthcare programs, as we know nobody who would do such a thing is in his or her right mind.[/quote]

Unless we make every citizen take periodic mental health exams, involuntarily commit anyone who we think poses a slight risk, and have several armed guards at every school, you can't stop stuff like this from happening. Things like this are a sad and unavoidable reality of this sick world.

It's natural to want to assign blame, but we can't do that for something like this. The person who is responsible is dead. He can't hurt anyone anymore. Now we just have to worry about the sickos out there who will be "inspired" by this.

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I know some of you (maybe even myself) may want to discuss the political aspects of this, so probably best to do it in this thread.

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/debating-with-the-enemy/48456-gun-control-thread-should-we.html[/url]

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;975467]Unless we make every citizen take periodic mental health exams, involuntarily commit anyone who we think poses a slight risk, and have several armed guards at every school, you can't stop stuff like this from happening. Things like this are a sad and unavoidable reality of this sick world[/quote]

I agree with you, but what you posted is not what I was suggesting. I work for a Mental Health/Substance Abuse agency, and we have great programs for our community that starts from infancy on up to adults who have mental health issues of any sort. We also deal with those in jail, those in crisis, etc...we deal with those who voluntarily commit themselves as well as those who involuntarily commit themselves. We have Youth and Prevention programs, Anger Management programs...the point I'm making is, not every state is equal in the sense of providing strong mental health programs, and because they aren't, a lot of these people who go out and commit acts of violence are ones that have fallen through the cracks. MAYBE, just MAYBE if there was a strong behavioral health program in the state this shooter was in (New Jersey) that MAYBE this would have been avoided. I can't say that for sure, but I wouldn't rule it out. And even if the mental health program is great, I understand that you can't prevent every tragedy like this, but we can at least make sure that those programs are top notch first and foremost.

Again, I'm merely just saying, most people will jump on the guns thing, and the argument will go back and forth and never will there be a solution everybody agrees with. Instead of doing that, maybe we should put our thoughts toward behavioral health and what programs would help to catch such behavior in people and treat it before it manifests into something like this.

But, I'm not going to debate it today. Let's just take today and think about these families, their victims, hug your children if you have them, and if you don't, hug your nephews and nieces.

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Think these dead children have christmas gifts under a christmas tree that will never be opened. Parents that will never tuck their child into bed again. Brother and sisters who lost their best friend and playmate. Parents who rushed their kids off to school forgetting to give them a hug or kiss good by never knowing it would be their last chance. So many what ifs that are now gone.

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[quote=skinsguy;975477]I agree with you, but what you posted is not what I was suggesting. I work for a Mental Health/Substance Abuse agency, and we have great programs for our community that starts from infancy on up to adults who have mental health issues of any sort. We also deal with those in jail, those in crisis, etc...we deal with those who voluntarily commit themselves as well as those who involuntarily commit themselves. We have Youth and Prevention programs, Anger Management programs...the point I'm making is, not every state is equal in the sense of providing strong mental health programs, and because they aren't, a lot of these people who go out and commit acts of violence are ones that have fallen through the cracks. MAYBE, just MAYBE if there was a strong behavioral health program in the state this shooter was in (New Jersey) that MAYBE this would have been avoided. I can't say that for sure, but I wouldn't rule it out. And even if the mental health program is great, I understand that you can't prevent every tragedy like this, but we can at least make sure that those programs are top notch first and foremost.

Again, I'm merely just saying, most people will jump on the guns thing, and the argument will go back and forth and never will there be a solution everybody agrees with. Instead of doing that, maybe we should put our thoughts toward behavioral health and what programs would help to catch such behavior in people and treat it before it manifests into something like this.

But, I'm not going to debate it today. Let's just take today and think about these families, their victims, hug your children if you have them, and if you don't, hug your nephews and nieces.[/quote]

Sounds like you do a lot of good work. The problem is you can't force people to go to a place like yours to get diagnosed, let alone treatment. Families often don't know what to do or are afraid to do anything. I have no statistics to back it up, but I would think that for every person getting help, there 3 or 4 that aren't.

I don't know if we just don't hear about it as much, but it seems stuff like this happens a lot more here than other parts of the world. For some reason, this country seems to produce the most lone gunmen, serial killers, etc. I wonder why that is. Why are there so many crazy people here vs other places?

Who knows what this guys deal was. His mother worked there and he killed her.

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[quote=firstdown;975483]Think these dead children have christmas gifts under a christmas tree that will never be opened. Parents that will never tuck their child into bed again. Brother and sisters who lost their best friend and playmate. Parents who rushed their kids off to school forgetting to give them a hug or kiss good by never knowing it would be their last chance. So many what ifs that are now gone.[/quote]

I know just plain awful .

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[quote=SmootSmack;975461]Killed his father at home Went to the school and killed his mother (a teacher there), shot a bunch of kids execution style. How?? Why????[/quote]

[quote][Updated at 3:09 p.m. ET] The suspect's mother was shot and killed at the school, according to source close to the investigation. She was a teacher there.

And we now know that Ryan Lanza, the suspected gunman, was 24.[/quote]


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So this guy killed his own mother along with these kids? SMH :madani:


edit....and killed his father? WTF?

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Poor guy is getting bombarded with hate.