Cornering the Market
 

I probably shouldn't add to the confusion by starting yet another cornerback thread, but I thought it might be good to look at all the free agent cornerback moves in comparison with each other. And maybe that'll give us some perspective as to what the Skins and Smoot (and his agent) are each thinking.


Gary Baxter: Browns-6 years, $30 million. $10.5 million bonus

Ken Lucas: Panthers-6 years, $36 million, $13 million bonus

Anthony Henry: Cowboys-5 years, $25 million, $11 million bonus

So that's a look at the major cornerbacks who have signed new deals, to give you an idea of what the market is dictating right now. I can't find any info elsewhere, but according to tonight's San Jose Mercury News:

"The Chiefs were optimistic Friday that their recruiting efforts in free-agency would bring a contract agreement with cornerback Samari Rolle. The parties were making progress toward a long-term deal the Chiefs hope would at long last solidify the position.

"I think we're close," coach Dick Vermeil said. "We have a very good opportunity there. But there are also some medical things that have to be cleared up. This doesn't mean some other team won't step in and sign him before we do. It's never done until a contract is signed."

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I'm just about tired of all this stuff about our cb position. I just wish that we would just go ahead and pay samari rolle his money and move one. I like Smoot alot but let's get real he is not worth no 14 million bonus. Look at the Rams in last year's preseason. They had him running circles out there. He is pretty good in our system that we are runnning but Rolle is the better athlete. Rolle is faster and smarter. We are built to win now so let's not put us in the hole giving away undeserving money. I would even give that kind of money to Ty Law at least he has proven to hold his own, especially against the colts' harrison (one of the better receivers in the game to go along with the best qb). Smoot just let me down and he is thinking about the team so I think we should just move on and teach him a lesson.

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[QUOTE=Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor]I'm just about tired of all this stuff about our cb position. I just wish that we would just go ahead and pay samari rolle his money and move one. I like Smoot alot but let's get real he is not worth no 14 million bonus. Look at the Rams in last year's preseason. They had him running circles out there. He is pretty good in our system that we are runnning but Rolle is the better athlete. Rolle is faster and smarter. We are built to win now so let's not put us in the hole giving away undeserving money. I would even give that kind of money to Ty Law at least he has proven to hold his own, especially against the colts' harrison (one of the better receivers in the game to go along with the best qb). Smoot just let me down and he is thinking about the team so I think we should just move on and teach him a lesson.[/QUOTE]

I would rather sere us draft than sign either Law or Rolle

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gibbs is probably gonna pick a wide receiver in the first round. how many draft picks do we have?

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Nfl Sirius radio is reporting that the dolphins will trade CB Patrick Surtain to Kansas City in exchange for RB Larry Johnson, if this is true this will be a huge deal, and it will mean that we will probably sign samari rolle.

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[QUOTE=mooby]gibbs is probably gonna pick a wide receiver in the first round. how many draft picks do we have?[/QUOTE]

I believe we have 6

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we have ....

1
3
4
6
7
as of now if im not mistaken

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok]Nfl Sirius radio is reporting that the dolphins will trade CB Patrick Surtain to Kansas City in exchange for RB Larry Johnson, if this is true this will be a huge deal, and it will mean that we will probably sign samari rolle.[/QUOTE] If that happens what will the Dolphins do with their pick #2. Consesus had them picking Benson. Do they take a WR, then?

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damn what happened to our 2nd and 5th round picks?

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2nd we traded to get Cooley... and I don't remember the 5th.

I see Dolphins looking to fix their O line a bit in the first. Not with where they are but maybe a trade down or pick up a great player there. I don't expect the Dolphins to go WR. (Booker, Chambers, Boston) they could definitely go QB.

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5th was for Thrash

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It sucks Antonio Pierce was an undrafted FA, because we would have gotten a compensatory pick if he had.
I did not know Antonio Pierce was born in Ontario, Canada...eh?

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no we wouldn't have. we would have only gotten a pick if he was in his third year. last year was his fourth so he was an unrestricted free agent. that meant anyone could have signed him and we wouldn't have gotten anything.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok]Nfl Sirius radio is reporting that the dolphins will trade CB Patrick Surtain to Kansas City in exchange for RB Larry Johnson, if this is true this will be a huge deal, and it will mean that we will probably sign samari rolle.[/QUOTE]


Dumb move by the phin's, Johnson is nothing special I would think Surtain would bring back more than Johnson? I think KC would still try and sign Rolle regardless of that deal.

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By the way has anyone heard any rumors on Andre Dyson? Any teams talking to him?

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nah nothing yet on him maybe washington is making amove at him they just don't want anyone to know about it. and who the hell is larry johnson. if the dolphins think that is an equal trade, they are getting burned. patrick surtain wants to leave the dolphins. but larry johnson? he must be like a third string running back because the only running backs i saw for kansas city last year was priest holmes and derrick blaylock. a starting pro bowl cornerback for some third string running back. i don't think they would do that.

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LJ was supposed to be holmes replacement, but things soured last year...

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I understand the Chiefs need to shore up their defense, but if they trade away Larry Johnson they'll have no depth behind the talented-yet oft injured lately-Priest Holmes. They just lost Derrick Blaylock to the Jets earlier this week

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i would trade larry johnson to the phins for patrick surtain. i mean even if it took away the now second string running back it would still help the chiefs alot. plus they could just sign some running back off free agency to back up holmes.

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KC makes RBs look much better... shields and roaf tend to have that effect, so they should trade their RB depth, sign a guy in the 2nd-3rd round for next year, and then ship him out for another top 10 player... rinse and repeat. KC getting surtain and rolle would be a coup, you'd actually have to stop laughing at them so hard.

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[QUOTE=Daseal]2nd we traded to get Cooley... and I don't remember the 5th.

I see Dolphins looking to fix their O line a bit in the first. Not with where they are but maybe a trade down or pick up a great player there. I don't expect the Dolphins to go WR. (Booker, Chambers, Boston) they could definitely go QB.[/QUOTE]

must have been that undisclosed draft pick we gave away last year. I dont remember which deal it was on or if it really happened. The one thing that I do know is that this Corona is really good.

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5th was for thrash

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[QUOTE=That Guy]5th was for thrash[/QUOTE]

Thank, I now possess nore useless knowledge.