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PSUskinsfan11 03-05-2005 06:53 PM

Smoot news
 
On ESPN News Pastabelly said that Smoot isn't getting as much action as he thought he would and he also called him a great young CB. He also said he would not be surprised if he ended up back with the Redskins!!!!!!

mooby 03-05-2005 07:02 PM

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thats good news for the skins. sometimes they aren't right. everyone thought that pierce would just resign with the skins no questions asked, then suprise, he's a giant. i wouldn't be suprised for smoot to just pick another team just like that.

e16bball 03-05-2005 07:03 PM

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That is really good news. It would be a coup if we could get Smoot back for a less inflated price than we thought. I am really hoping at this point that he does come back, because with Coles and Pierce gone already, it would be real tough to swallow Smoot's departure as well.

Daseal 03-05-2005 07:10 PM

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HUrray!

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-05-2005 09:55 PM

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I HIGHLY doubt Smooty will return to D.C. Although no one has yet offered Smoot in excess of $10 million (as a SB), someone surely will. You can take that to the bank.

I'm not sure why we can't up our offer by $2 million...it would only lead to an extra cap hit each season of about 300K. That's nothing.

KLHJ2 03-05-2005 09:59 PM

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]I HIGHLY doubt Smooty will return to D.C. Although no one has yet offered Smoot in excess of $10 million (as a SB), someone surely will. You can take that to the bank.

I'm not sure why we can't up our offer by $2 million...it would only lead to an extra cap hit each season of about 300K. That's nothing.[/QUOTE]

Stop being so damn pessimistic.

kingerock 03-05-2005 10:13 PM

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think about it though, who needs a CB that bad, that they are willing to pay Smoot big $$ for rather than go to a FA already on the market or the draft. He's a good CB, maybe even a great CB, but the market for CBs was last season, not this season. I wouldn't be suprised at all if he's a Redskins this season either.

KLHJ2 03-05-2005 10:16 PM

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kingerock, I will pick you up and bring you back as soon as I get stationed there. It may take a few years, but I will not leave a fallen comrade.

Winskins 03-05-2005 10:31 PM

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Smoot is a true Reskin, in every meaning of the word. Period. I have the feeling that he's holding out for more money, but from the Redskins only. If you listen to all the free agency chatter how often have you heard Smoot's name. Not much, because I don't think he has told his agent to really go out looking, because otherwise I couldn't see why another team would not want to pick up Smoot. He is as talented a cornerback as any other on the market and he is the epitomy of heart. I think he wants more money, but in the end he's going to sign with the Skins because e loves the team, the fans, and the city more than a couple more million dollars he could find in his signing bonus. Peace out

KLHJ2 03-05-2005 10:34 PM

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[QUOTE=Winskins]Smoot is a true Reskin, in every meaning of the word. Period. I have the feeling that he's holding out for more money, but from the Redskins only. If you listen to all the free agency chatter how often have you heard Smoot's name. Not much, because I don't think he has told his agent to really go out looking, because otherwise I couldn't see why another team would not want to pick up Smoot. He is as talented a cornerback as any other on the market and he is the epitomy of heart. I think he wants more money, but in the end he's going to sign with the Skins because e loves the team, the fans, and the city more than a couple more million dollars he could find in his signing bonus. Peace out[/QUOTE]

Very good points. I hope you are right.

mooby 03-05-2005 10:37 PM

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yeah. i think smoot sees the general direction in which we are going and hope he wants to be a part of it.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-05-2005 10:53 PM

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Even though I disagree with the general sentiment that Smoot's just holding out for more money from the 'Skins I hope y'all are right.

mooby 03-05-2005 10:56 PM

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nah. once smoot sees that he really wants to be a core redskin, he'll just resign with us. actually, since our cap is almost at the limit i don't see the redskins resigning smoot or anyone.

KLHJ2 03-05-2005 11:00 PM

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We can still afford to resign smoot under our terms. The key word being "our".

BigSKINBauer 03-06-2005 01:39 AM

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[QUOTE=Winskins]Smoot is a true Reskin, in every meaning of the word. Period. I have the feeling that he's holding out for more money, but from the Redskins only. If you listen to all the free agency chatter how often have you heard Smoot's name. Not much, because I don't think he has told his agent to really go out looking, because otherwise I couldn't see why another team would not want to pick up Smoot. He is as talented a cornerback as any other on the market and he is the epitomy of heart. I think he wants more money, but in the end he's going to sign with the Skins because e loves the team, the fans, and the city more than a couple more million dollars he could find in his signing bonus. Peace out[/QUOTE]

VERY optimistic!
I think he will play with the same intensity anywhere he goes and he must love us just asking us to wait 3 months and when we don't give in he doesn't back off and if we give in i will be upset, most players on teams take money off if they truelly love the team. They don't do what smoot does. And now i don't want to pay him even the 10 but if he takes it then fine but not any more

BigSKINBauer 03-06-2005 01:43 AM

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]
I'm not sure why we can't up our offer by $2 million...it would only lead to an extra cap hit each season of about 300K. That's nothing.[/QUOTE]

y not like another 3 million i'm sure he will be happy with that and another 4 we would be giving in and thats just 600 thousand

and 500k is another player on the team

offiss 03-06-2005 04:42 AM

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That was my stance from day 1, once Smoot went out into the market place and found out no one is going to break the bank for him he will come back and take our very generous offer, he just better be careful he doesn't over play his hand.

Funbunchfan 03-06-2005 06:54 AM

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[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]y not like another 3 million i'm sure he will be happy with that and another 4 we would be giving in and thats just 600 thousand

and 500k is another player on the team[/QUOTE]In Gibbs press conferance Friday he said, not in so many words that Shawn Springs was the better corner and we only gave him a 10 mil. signing bonus so that is why they are not willing to budge on Smoot. I am in agreement with that because I feel his play is adverage at best. I love his heart and effort but the ability leaves alot to be desired IMO.If he signs for the offer on the table then fine I will have to bite the bullet if not I hope we go after Antrell Rolle in Aprils draft.

Luxorreb 03-06-2005 07:11 AM

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Isn't 10 million enough? I make like 40g's a year, shit. And I spend $800 for season ticks plus parking, food, jerseys, beer, etc. Smoot, sign that shit and become a legend. You sign I'll buy a new jersey #21 and wear it to every home game. If not I think you (Smoot) is a bitch like Pierce and Coles. Can't blame people for chasing money like Pierce, but I can blame him for fronting to wanna be a Redskin. As Buges says "people may say they'll be a skin for life, but when you dangle a dollar or 2 in front of them it all changes"
Gibbs will show in 2k5.
Bottomline!

CRT3 03-06-2005 08:33 AM

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Please note that all of Smoots jerseys are on sale at redskins.com. All of them. He be gone!!!

celts32 03-06-2005 10:28 AM

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]I HIGHLY doubt Smooty will return to D.C. Although no one has yet offered Smoot in excess of $10 million (as a SB), someone surely will. You can take that to the bank.

I'm not sure why we can't up our offer by $2 million...it would only lead to an extra cap hit each season of about 300K. That's nothing.[/QUOTE]

I agree with Ramsey, there is no way SMoot is coming back without the Skins increasing that signing bonus. Smoot could get a 10 mil bonus today from KC or the Jets to name a couple if he was willing to settle for that.

The Redskins say they will not increase, but they did match a 6.5 bonus on Pierce when they had offered 3.5 reportedly. The problem with the Redskins waiting until another offer comes in though is that any team that signs him is going to frontload the first couple years to make it so that the Skins can't match the terms. The only way they will get smoot is to increase their bonus offer now so that they can set the terms of the contract themselves. Once another team is involved they are not going to make Smoot an offer that could fit in the Skins cap knowing that he wants to be in DC...

monk81 03-06-2005 06:09 PM

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[QUOTE=PSUskinsfan11]On ESPN News Pastabelly said that Smoot isn't getting as much action as he thought he would and he also called him a great young CB. He also said he would not be surprised if he ended up back with the Redskins!!!!!![/QUOTE]

This is funny but PFW calls Smoot brash, streaky, and a victim of big plays. He's small and gives up more than 50 lbs to some of the NFL's more elite receivers.......then they add his rating: above average............

And for Smoots asking price appears too high too......sounds like Smoot will remain a Skin.......

Redskins8588 03-07-2005 01:46 AM

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]I HIGHLY doubt Smooty will return to D.C. Although no one has yet offered Smoot in excess of $10 million (as a SB), someone surely will. You can take that to the bank.

I'm not sure why we can't up our offer by $2 million...it would only lead to an extra cap hit each season of about 300K. That's nothing.[/QUOTE]

I agree, think of it this way. Springs had an awsome season for us last season, but he is known around the league as to be injury proned, is Williams ready to rely on Wilds and Harris as our starting CB's while Springs is healing? I think that Wilds and Harris will do good in Williams D, but I am not sure how they will do with out Springs on the other side.


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