Out of state Redskins fan rant….Parental Guidance Suggested
 

Being born, raised and still living on Long Island NY and being a Redskins fan since I was eight I’ve taken my fare share of ball busting over the years. Warranted or not it comes with the territory of being a Redskins fan in Giant and Jet country and I’m cool with that. But over the last week since “The Injury” it has become insufferable. The ball busting hasn’t been this bad since ’86 when we lost to the Giants three times.

Where I work I am the manager of the shipping/receiving department and my cubicle is in close proximity to the receiving area. My boss was cool enough to give me free rein over the choice of colors that I painted my area, so needless to say I chose to have my area painted Maroon. I have multiple pieces of Redskins art, an RG3 poster and a six foot ****ing Redskin Helmet above my desk that is visible to anyone who enters the door. Every day during the season I wear some article of Redskins clothing, whether it’s a jacket, a hat, a polo on causal Friday, hell half my right arm is covered in Redskins tattoos, so I am always representing. Bottom line, everyone who knows me or meets me for the first time doesn’t have to be Sherlock ****ing Holmes to deduce that I am a Redskins fan.


Since Sunday every ****ing Giant fan Mailman, UPS driver, Fed Ex, Sir Speedy, DHL, Water Cooler delivery guy, maintenance worker etc... Has repeated the same thing “I told you he was going to get hurt”, “He can’t be running around like that and not get hurt” “didn’t you know that was going to happen?” It’s like they think I’m the head of the NY Chapter of the Redskins and I should have passed along their fair warnings onto the organization for RG3 to protect himself from injury. If that is the case then I sincerely apologize to the team and the fans for not passing along their suggestions and heed their clairvoyant warnings of certain doom. Some of these assholes are actually glad to see him get hurt, I have one Facebook Giant fan asshole friend (or should I say a “Giant”asshole Facebook friend) actually pause his DVR when his knee was twisting, take a cell phone pic and post it with the caption, “Running Quarterbacks don’t last or win in the NFL”. What kind of fan revels in another team’s star player getting hurt? I wouldn’t care if RG3 played for Dallas or Philly and got hurt, I wouldn’t celebrate it, athletes like him are good for the sport. For the most part I have always had a respect for the Giants and their fans, not like the Cowboys (they could go 0 and 16 and lose every game by 40 points and they couldn’t suck enough as far as I’m concerned) and in return I have found them to be the same until this. At first when they all started to bestow there infinite wisdom after the fact, I humored them by apologizing for not taking their advice to the team, now I just instruct them to blow me.


Another thing that is getting really old is this crap about second guessing or firing Shanahan over how he handled this situation. I have been a head coach on a much more minuscule level as I coached Pop Warner for seven years and an adult Flag team that featured three guys who were on NFL pre season squads and I know from that low level experience that the head coach has a lot on his plate and if he trusts the player at their word that they are alright and can go on then that is all there is to it. The bigger question that I haven’t heard much talk about is the play calling in the game. Why did no one ask Shanahan at his press conference why Morris had only 16 carries in the game after he has ridden that Hoss all season? If I was Shanny and noticed RG3 limping badly during that second drive I would have thrown out the read option, gone I formation and asked Morris to shove the ball up his ass and sit on it for the rest of the game. Whether they got first downs or not, they could have taken valuable minutes off the clock each possession and played a field possession game and nursed that ****ing two touchdown lead to Atlanta.


And enough shit about the field and **** Pete Caroll and his whining about how shitty it was, does anyone complain about the 12th man being too loud that the visiting teams can’t hear the signals in Seattle? If they do then **** them too, that’s what home field advantage is about. How many of us played on mud fields when we were kid emulating Riggo busting through the line of scrimmage with mud and dirt on our jerseys, that’s ****ing football, period.


I closing I must admit that I feel a little better and encourage any other out of state fans to think of this thread as a therapy session to air you frustrations and feel free to use bad language as it is therapeutic. Till next time stay classy Warpathers!

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Spoken like a true Long Islander!

I can say this, I have a lot of family there. :D

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Then I should have probably spelt Talk Tawk, right? Even I hate they way that sounds.

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yeah, all game i was wondering why RGIII wasn't benched after all the dirt balls and misses, and why morris wasn't running when he averaged like 8ypc in the 1st quarter.

it was a game full of poor decisions, but it was still a good season, and with cousins around i'm really not that worried about the RGIII injury, even though i do think it could have been avoided (and no, it's not cause he's a running quarterback, it's because he insisted on playing with an injury that should have kept him on the bench).

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Hey, if you haven't had your cawfee yet, I can forgive you.


I tried reading the wall of text and I think I agree...sick of the people's drama saying to fire Shanahan, or even looking for someone to blame. Griffin is a leader and competitor and wanted to win the game for us after LEADING US TO THE PLAYOFFS. It's football. Men get hurt.

I do not regret anything about the game. Sure, Cousins should have probably come in, but RGIII took us to the playoffs and he needed to be the one to win it for us. Do you want a QB who cares and wants to lead the team or do you want Jay Cutler?

The storm would be happening if Shanny benched him and we still lost. Too many of our fans AND especially the media act like women on their periods, but of course, only after the fact. They over-react to everything.

Remember the idiot who wanted to paint buses with messages for Snyder to sell the team a couple of years ago, when he was finally starting to make solid decisions (like Shanahan and Allen)? Then there's this crap: [URL="http://www.firetheshanahans.com/"]Fire The Shanahans[/URL]



Cheer the hell up, Skins fans...we just had an amazing season, won the division title with a 7-game streak, went 5-1 in the division, swept Dallas and Philly and was one single play away from sweeping the Vagiants too. We knocked NJ and Dallas out of the playoffs and probably got Rob Ryan fired. We have two ROY candidates and the brightest future in the NFL...only to get better next season. It's a great time to be a Redskins fan. Stop crying. RGIII will be back and will dominate the league for years.

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You ask why we didn't keep running the ball with Morris. My answer, although you probably don't want to hear this (just like you don't want the I told you so other teams fans telling you that RG3 was going to get hurt) but Alfred is only effective if Roberts running. Its simple; RG3 runs outside, Alfred runs inside. Once Robert was hurt, what did seattle start doing? filling in the middle with pressure making us run it outside where neither of them were effective at that point.

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Summo, I'd like to read your post, but the long continuous "wall of text" is a bit difficult. Can you break up your post into atleast 5 or 6 paragraphs? :)

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;986953]Summo, I'd like to read your post, but the long continuous "wall of text" is a bit difficult. Can you break up your post into atleast 5 or 6 paragraphs? :)[/quote]

This is how I felt when I married into a NY family. They speak with walls of text...all at the same time....loudly....with an accent. You'll get used to it.

Summo should post more.



[SIZE=7]SUMMO - Happy 500th post! Couldn't have been a better #500![/SIZE]

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[quote=CultBrennan59;986951]You ask why we didn't keep running the ball with Morris. My answer, although you probably don't want to hear this (just like you don't want the I told you so other teams fans telling you that RG3 was going to get hurt) but Alfred is only effective if Roberts running. Its simple; RG3 runs outside, Alfred runs inside. Once Robert was hurt, what did seattle start doing? filling in the middle with pressure making us run it outside where neither of them were effective at that point.[/quote]

Regardless if he was effective or not the attempt should have been made and the read option is ony run a few times, most others are pitches and zone runs anyway.

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[quote=Monkeydad;986957]This is how I felt when I married into a NY family. They speak with walls of text...all at the same time....loudly....with an accent. You'll get used to it.

Summo should post more.



[SIZE=7]SUMMO - Happy 500th post! Couldn't have been a better #500![/SIZE][/quote]

Why thank you for noticing my 500th and I now it's a bit long but as you can see I don't post much, why you ask? I hate ****ing typing, I don't have the patience for that shit.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;986953]Summo, I'd like to read your post, but the long continuous "wall of text" is a bit difficult. Can you break up your post into atleast 5 or 6 paragraphs? :)[/quote]

Hows that?

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Great post Summo and I agree 100% about Morris. He had like 60 some yards on 11 or so carries in the first qt/half? Then got about 5 carries the rest of the game. I disagree with those who say that Shanny would have still caught a bunch of shit if he pulled Griffin and we lost the game. Everyone could see he was hurt and it affected his play. I wouldnt assume we'd have lost either. You have my respect for showing your colors so boldly in the heart of Giants territory. HTTR!!!

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[quote=Summo;986962]Hows that?[/quote]

Brilliant post Summo, i was chuckling at desk the entire time! You should rant more often!

Have to say i agree with you on pretty much everything you said. I have to say, my friends who are fans of other NFC-East teams have been much more gracious. One of my Eagles friends told me he was rooting for us during the playoffs because he likes RGIII (the mere fact that he's doing this means he's not really an Eagles fan, and i'm working on converting him. His wife is 4 months pregnant with their first child, and i've already sent him a picture of his baby shower gift - a redskins "onesie." for his son/daughter.) Anyway, we were texting the entire game and he was very consilatory when RGIII left the game. I have another friend from Long Island who is a Giants fan, and he was also sympathetic. On principle alone, i'm not friends with people who are Cowboys fans.

Anyway, i have to say I am actually pleasantly surprised with how little flakk Shanahn is taking in the media. Aside from the usual local media suspects who like to stir up controversy, most pundits agree with Shanahan's decision to do what he did and/or simply say they understand the decision and its not their place to question it.

The playcalling was a major question for me, but that was Kyle's doing. By far, i think this was the most questionable game he's called this year. Still, when you re-watch the game, the playcalls seemed to be good ones - players just werent executing. Robert was not accurate throwing, and when he did throw a catchable ball, his receivers dropped passes. That said, when it was obvious robert couldnt throw as accurately as normal, Kyle should have adjusted to call more running plays. You simply cannot stop Alfred Morris, no matter how good your run defense is.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;986951]You ask why we didn't keep running the ball with Morris. My answer, although you probably don't want to hear this (just like you don't want the I told you so other teams fans telling you that RG3 was going to get hurt) but Alfred is only effective if Roberts running. Its simple; RG3 runs outside, Alfred runs inside. Once Robert was hurt, what did seattle start doing? filling in the middle with pressure making us run it outside where neither of them were effective at that point.[/quote]

yeah, like during the browns game. or the dallas game. morris can run regardless, we just stopped calling running plays.

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[quote=Monkeydad;986957]This is how I felt when I married into a NY family. They speak with walls of text...all at the same time....loudly....with an accent. You'll get used to it.

Summo should post more.



[SIZE=7]SUMMO - Happy 500th post! Couldn't have been a better #500![/SIZE][/quote]

Yep! I know that all too well too! Married into a LONG ISLAND, ITALIAN family at that! =)

Summo, I have heard the same crap from others as well. And it wastes time explaining to them how wrong they are, but know this. Once Griffin has been in the league for awhile, and once he wins a Super Bowl - and he WILL win a Super Bowl, all that talk will stop. One thing you can remind them about is the field day that the media used to have with Eli Manning before he won his first Super Bowl. The media rode him hard, calling him a bust and what not. Two Super Bowls later, what has the media really said about Eli? Nothing but good things.

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[quote=skinsguy;986997]Yep! I know that all too well too! Married into a LONG ISLAND, ITALIAN family at that! =)

Summo, I have heard the same crap from others as well. And it wastes time explaining to them how wrong they are, but know this. Once Griffin has been in the league for awhile, and once he wins a Super Bowl - and he WILL win a Super Bowl, all that talk will stop. One thing you can remind them about is the field day that the media used to have with Eli Manning before he won his first Super Bowl. The media rode him hard, calling him a bust and what not. Two Super Bowls later, what has the media really said about Eli? Nothing but good things.[/quote]

I too am an Italian but not the loudmouth kind, I'll explain. My family is Sicilian, if you are not familiar, they are the quiet brooding type that doesn't have allot to say, but when they do look out, think the Godfather. I too married an Italian girl whose family is Neapolitan, those are the loudmouth shoot first aim second type. They talk very loud use there hands when they speak have allot to say about nothing... It makes for some interesting holiday gatherings, and leads to allot of severe headaches.

And I too remember the whole Eli thing and all the Giant fans that I know wanted his head and never thought he would amount to anything. Funny, one of my friends even thought the Giants should have traded for McNabb after Eli's third season or so when he failed yet again.

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[quote=Summo;987006]I too am an Italian but not the loudmouth kind, I'll explain. My family is Sicilian, if you are not familiar, they are the quiet brooding type that doesn't have allot to say, but when they do look out, think the Godfather. I too married an Italian girl whose family is Neapolitan, those are the loudmouth shoot first aim second type. They talk very loud use there hands when they speak have allot to say about nothing... It makes for some interesting holiday gatherings, and leads to allot of severe headaches.

And I too remember the whole Eli thing and all the Giant fans that I know wanted his head and never thought he would amount to anything. Funny, one of my friends even thought the Giants should have traded for McNabb after Eli's third season or so when he failed yet again.[/quote]

So, Sicilian, married to a fellow Italian, and a Redskins fan -- like me. You know, some of us just have it all. Next time a Giants fan approaches, just make a coughing sound which sounds like "epic fail." Or you can look them in the eye and ask point blank whether they'd rather have Eli or RGIII going into next season. "Eli" is the answer for liars or fools.

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[quote=Summo;987006]I too am an Italian but not the loudmouth kind, I'll explain. My family is Sicilian, if you are not familiar, they are the quiet brooding type that doesn't have allot to say, but when they do look out, think the Godfather. I too married an Italian girl whose family is Neapolitan, those are the loudmouth shoot first aim second type. They talk very loud use there hands when they speak have allot to say about nothing... It makes for some interesting holiday gatherings, and leads to allot of severe headaches.

And I too remember the whole Eli thing and all the Giant fans that I know wanted his head and never thought he would amount to anything. Funny, one of my friends even thought the Giants should have traded for McNabb after Eli's third season or so when he failed yet again.[/quote]

I think my new family is a mixture of both. My father-in-law is not extremely talkative, but like you said, when he talks, you better listen, lol! Now, my mother-in-law, she's the talker. She told me she went out with Roger Staubach once - to some kind of dance. However, because I am her favorite son-in-law (her only one, lol) she now has converted to being a Redskins fan!;)

I try to look at it like this. REAL football fans, no matter their team affilation, should appreciate a player like RGIII. The sport needs a guy like him, because he's good for the sport of football. Years down the road, those guys will still dislike Griffin because he plays for the Redskins, but they'll have no choice but to respect him, because they'll all be absolutely wrong about him on the other side of this injury.

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Please keep all of this in mind when RGIII comes back healthy and absolutely TORCHES the Giants next year. You can then print this post, along with the box score, and include a caption: "Scoreboard, Mother F**ers."

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Just tell them if we didn't kick their ass and make the playoffs he wouldn't have injured his knee.

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[quote=skinsguy;986997]Yep! I know that all too well too! Married into a LONG ISLAND, ITALIAN family at that! =)
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Long Island Italian and Polish family here.



Summo's Sicilian!? Don't mess with him people. The Sicilians are the [I]bad [/I]ones. :D

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I'll post this in here for Summo's reaction.

[B]Don't blame the player, coach, field or doctors for RGIII's knee injury. A Washington Post "journalist" says he hurt his knee because the team is racist.
[/B]

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/whats-in-a-name-the-redskins-bad-karma/2013/01/08/a6ab8bb4-59da-11e2-88d0-c4cf65c3ad15_story.html]What’s in a name? The Redskins’ bad karma - The Washington Post[/url]

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I have to completely agree on people who poke fun at the injury. I have seen it on FB and where I work. And unfortunately, I work in a high school with students who think they know everything or that it's appropriate to make fun of an athlete being injured.

Anyone who played sport, at any point, should know that sportsmanship comes first. Regardless of how much you dislike or how fired up the competition gets you there has to be respect. Opponents are people just like us and our Redskins, who go out and risk themselves for a game they love. Teams losing is ground for a laugh, no harm no foul, injury to body is something that shouldn't be joked about. It's why our youngsters take a knee when a player gets hurt or why we all clap when an injured player gets hurt. It's respect.

I dislike players like Romo, Vick, Eli...etc. But they are people who risk themselves for a game and for our entertainment. They can lose every Sunday for all I care but I wouldn't risk serious injury on any individual.

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As they say in North Dakota...Ohhhh geeeez!!

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You know another point that someone touched on before, it’s basically beating your head against the wall trying to explain to non Redskins fan that RG3 is not a classic “Running QB”. The very definition of such has changed in the last two seasons with Cam Newton and RG3. In the past with QB’s like Cunningham, pre-Shanahan Elway, Vick etc…they were the type that would run around buy time wait 3 or so seconds then take off whether anyone was open or not. They had virtually no designed running plays called for them. Starting last season with Cam Newton you now see these QB’s with plays specifically designed tailored to their running ability, whether it’s a punishing style like Newton, or a speed style lie RG3. Most of the ignorant fans that I deal with just see them run and quickly label him as such and don’t want to hear it. So I say **** Em and move on.

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[quote=Summo;987085]You know another point that someone touched on before, it’s basically beating your head against the wall trying to explain to non Redskins fan that RG3 is not a classic “Running QB”. The very definition of such has changed in the last two seasons with Cam Newton and RG3. In the past with QB’s like Cunningham, pre-Shanahan Elway, Vick etc…they were the type that would run around buy time wait 3 or so seconds then take off whether anyone was open or not. They had virtually no designed running plays called for them. Starting last season with Cam Newton you now see these QB’s with plays specifically designed tailored to their running ability, whether it’s a punishing style like Newton, or a speed style lie RG3. Most of the ignorant fans that I deal with just see them run and quickly label him as such and don’t want to hear it. So I say **** Em and move on.[/quote]

I agree. RG3 can be a deadly pocket passer. His running ability is over emphasized by fans including Redskins fans and even coaches, I still do not like the option. Run it with Griffin maybe once a game where instead of giving it to Morris he just keeps it and bootlegs around the corner (would be great on the goal line).

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I'm not a Shanahan basher, I don't want him fired. However, you can't keep telling everyone you saw black, when we all saw white. I don't really care what non-skins fans say.

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[quote=Evilgrin;987093]I'm not a Shanahan basher, I don't want him fired. However, you can't keep telling everyone you saw black, when we all saw white. I don't really care what non-skins fans say.[/quote]

I normally don't mind either and I don't get into it much with them, that's why I felt the need to vent.

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Only read a few posts but here was my take of the game,

1st quarter the Skins ran well because the Seahawks had to respect RG3's running. (obviously) but also becaus from what I saw, and when it happened during the season we would lose, the Skins got away from "play action". Go back and watch. Every game they got away from RG3 taking the ball from under center and faking the hand off the Redskins lost. It also seemed that in those games they would rely more on the pitch plays.

The first quarter the team did well because they were utilizing the play action. When RG3 got hit for the second time and rolled out of bounds and got up limping they got away from him having to take the ball out from under center and moving less. He simply sat in the pistol and tried to throw which the Seahawks then simply backed off the run and covered the pass more. Just my observation.

The team needed to take RG3 out and put Cousins in either end of the 2nd half or atleast at half time. He would have been able to move better and to utilize the play action better. with out it the Seahawks didn't have to worry about Morris. But instead they put him in with only 5 min. left and needing two scores or 3 scores after the bad snap fumble.

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[quote=Monkeydad;986950]

Cheer the hell up, Skins fans...we just had an amazing season, won the division title with a 7-game streak, went 5-1 in the division, swept Dallas and Philly and was one single play away from sweeping the Vagiants too. We knocked NJ and Dallas out of the playoffs and probably got Rob Ryan fired. We have two ROY candidates and the brightest future in the NFL...only to get better next season. It's a great time to be a Redskins fan. Stop crying. RGIII will be back and will dominate the league for years.[/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]I agree everyone needs to stop being so gloom and doom . All these people out there speculation in hindsight about taking RGIII out the game. This dude is a player he is not like the other punk QBs we had in DC. Don’t you think for a second that he won’t be in shape and ready before preseason. This man has the killer instinct plus heart and drive and he wants to the GOAT and he won’t let anything stop him. For those doubters…Watch!!!![/FONT][/COLOR]

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Griffin is more like Fran Tarkenton than Michael Vick.

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[quote=That Guy;986984]yeah, like during the browns game. or the dallas game. morris can run regardless, we just stopped calling running plays.[/quote]

Browns game they shut down Alfred until Kirk got hot and started connecting on passes; we kept them off balance then everyone was doing good, even Royster. Dallas was so beat up on defense and the also feared RG3 would tear them up again.

You were saying?

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[quote=Monkeydad;987126]Griffin is more like Fran Tarkenton than Michael Vick.[/quote]

And Tarkenton played until he was 87 years old, I think.... Let's hope RGIII can do that.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;987150]Browns game they shut down Alfred until Kirk got hot and started connecting on passes; we kept them off balance then everyone was doing good, even Royster. Dallas was so beat up on defense and the also feared RG3 would tear them up again.

You were saying?[/quote]

yeah, you're right, morris is awful and totally riding RGIII's coat tails. that's the only reason he was the #2 RB this year and #2 in broken tackles... because of RGIII.

seriously, get a life.

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Great post, Summo. I, too, hate seeing a player get hurt, whether they're a Redskin or not. It also makes me sick to see how many people seem to be delighted by RG3's injury. Hey, what can you expect from Cowboys and Giants fans? I just wish they'd move the **** out of DC/MD/VA.

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[quote=That Guy;987165]yeah, you're right, morris is awful and totally riding RGIII's coat tails. that's the only reason he was the #2 RB this year and #2 in broken tackles... because of RGIII.

seriously, get a life.[/quote]

First off I never said he's bad. I said he's not nearly as effective without RG3. Lets put our thinking caps on here. If a RB runs between the tackles and the QB runs outside the tackles, thats a wide area to cover, and becomes extremely hard for a defense to defend.

But if you take away one of those guys, the other guy that is playing becomes less effective, because the defense only has to defend one area instead of two areas.

Shanahan knew that if he kept running it with Morris that eventually it was going to be stopped and ineffective and just a hobbled QB throwing inaccurate passes.

Should he have tried it? Sure so that there weren't people saying "Why didn't you run it with Morris?" But it would not have been all that affective. Thats a guarantee. Listen to ESPN and NFLN and hear them tell you all about how Morris is good in large part because Griffin posses that other running threat defenses have to defend.

Think of RG3 as Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen as Alfred Morris. Scottie Pippen wasn't anything special without MJ, but with MJ he was great and one of the best players in the league. I'm trying to dummy this scenario down as good as I can for you so that you can understand football better by using other sport examples.

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wait, you're trying to dumb down football so i can understand it?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

what a joke.

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[quote=Monkeydad;987126]Griffin is more like Fran Tarkenton than Michael Vick.[/quote]

Fran had neither speed nor a gun for an arm. However he was the most evasive QB ever, and the fact that he could extend plays like crazy made his passing very effective.

Probably the most exciting QB to watch play ever.

So not at all like RG, IMHO. RG has it all...

And Michael Vick doesn't even belong in this conversation.

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[quote=Monkeydad;987058]I'll post this in here for Summo's reaction.

[B]Don't blame the player, coach, field or doctors for RGIII's knee injury. A Washington Post "journalist" says he hurt his knee because the team is racist.
[/B]

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/whats-in-a-name-the-redskins-bad-karma/2013/01/08/a6ab8bb4-59da-11e2-88d0-c4cf65c3ad15_story.html]What’s in a name? The Redskins’ bad karma - The Washington Post[/url][/quote]

For this Asshole to suggest that RG3 tore his knee up because of bad karma is a ****ing joke. RG3 didn't name the team, or even pick to play for them. If there is such a thing as karma it wouldn't be bestowed upon him. As far as the team name goes, for selfish reasons I don't want to see it change. I grew up a "Redskins" fan and I hope to die one. I do however feel bad for people who are offended by it and hope there can be some resolution for them if they are sincere. People get too caught up in labels however and if they are truly forward thinkers they wouldn't let it bother them.

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[quote=Monkeydad;987126]Griffin is more like Fran Tarkenton than Michael Vick.[/quote]

I can't comment on that comparison since I never seen Tarkenton play. I have seen a million highlights of him in slow motion, but when I was growing up I remember him from "That's Incredible" and not on the filed. Are you even old enough to have seen him play?