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RedskinRat 04-16-2013 06:37 PM

Cooley - Redskins or no one
 
[URL="http://www.wusa9.com/sports/article/254907/25/Cooley-I-Dont-Want-To-Play-For-Any-Team-But-Redskins-"]Cooley - Redskins or no one[/URL]

[I]LANDOVER HILLS, Md. (WUSA) -- Chris Cooley is no longer officially a member of the Washington Redskins organization but it didn't stop him from representing the team at Glenridge Elementary School Tuesday morning. [/I]
[I]"I'll always be a part of the Redskins, I'm not part of the current roster right now but I'm part of this community because they embraced me so much as a player," says Cooley. [/I]

For Vet Minimum? I'd say "Welcome back!"

CultBrennan59 04-16-2013 07:22 PM

Re: Cooley - Redskins or no one
 
looks like its going to be no one..

Hog1 04-16-2013 07:30 PM

Re: Cooley - Redskins or no one
 
I hope he finds a place in the organization......

Lotus 04-16-2013 07:48 PM

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I hope that he has a solid post-football plan.

NC_Skins 04-16-2013 09:02 PM

Re: Cooley - Redskins or no one
 
[quote=Lotus;1003596]I hope that he has a solid post-football plan.[/quote]

Getting drunk and chasing girls? That count?

JoeRedskin 04-16-2013 09:41 PM

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1003597]Getting drunk and chasing girls? That count?[/QUOTE]

Hey. It worked for me.

ethat001 04-16-2013 10:30 PM

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I love Cooley, but his time is done. Could see him as a color commentary guy on the field with players.

Sad to say that 30yrs is too old, but it is what it is.

InsanePianist 04-17-2013 03:10 AM

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[quote=ethat001;1003606]I love Cooley, but his time is done. Could see him as a color commentary guy on the field with players.

Sad to say that 30yrs is too old, but it is what it is.[/quote]

If he'd come back for 1 year vet min... why not? He's got to be better than Niles was, and I'm sure he has some knowledge to share.

Monkeydad 04-17-2013 09:53 AM

Re: Cooley - Redskins or no one
 
Yeah, he's definitely more trustworthy than Paul, but with Paul's age and "potential", I think he'll get the nod, especially for his solid special teams play.

I'd love to see Cooley back but with Davis returning and Paulsen's emergence as a reliable, or at least serviceable starter last year, there's no room for him unless he wants to watch from the sideline.


One of my favorite Skins ever...I hope he retires as a Redskin. He had a great career here.

Monkeydad 04-17-2013 09:53 AM

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[quote=ethat001;1003606]I love Cooley, but his time is done. Could see him as a color commentary guy on the field with players.

Sad to say that 30yrs is too old, but it is what it is.[/quote]

It wasn't the age, it was the injuries.

skinsfan69 04-17-2013 10:11 AM

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He can't run anymore. He should retire and stay retired.

skinsfan69 04-17-2013 10:13 AM

Re: Cooley - Redskins or no one
 
[quote=NC_Skins;1003597]Getting drunk and chasing girls? That count?[/quote]

Isn't that what most 30 year old single men do? I sure did when I was 30.

firstdown 04-17-2013 11:00 AM

Re: Cooley - Redskins or no one
 
He did have that one catch last year for 8 yars and for a me at that.

Gmanc711 04-17-2013 12:11 PM

Re: Cooley - Redskins or no one
 
Love Cooley. Hope he can make some type of home within the organization....

But I'm pretty sure his football days are done. Really wish he could have gotten one more TD last year.

MTK 04-17-2013 12:17 PM

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Cooley will always be a true Redskin. He was a lot of fun to watch in his prime.

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irish 04-18-2013 06:54 AM

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Cooley had been working with Channel 4 on Redskins reports during the season and was pretty good at it. Hopefully he can keep doing tv because his playing days are over.

JoeRedskin 04-18-2013 01:13 PM

Re: Cooley - Redskins or no one
 
Captain Chaos was great fun to watch and a character on and off the field (Who wears short shorts?).

Hope he sticks around. Man I would LOVE if he replaced Huff. I know, I know, it's a pipe dream.

NC_Skins 04-18-2013 01:21 PM

Re: Cooley - Redskins or no one
 
[quote=InsanePianist;1003618]If he'd come back for 1 year vet min... why not? He's got to be better than Niles was, and I'm sure he has some knowledge to share.[/quote]

900K+ would be the vet min for Cooley. We can't afford it, nor can we spare the roster spot for a sentimental piece.

REDSKINS4ever 04-19-2013 04:03 AM

Re: Cooley - Redskins or no one
 
While I still feel Cooley has a lot left to give the Redskins on the football field, it's time for him to start looking towards another career if he hasn't already. If it were another regime in Washington Cooley would still be playing but Mike Shanahan knows what's best in the the Redskins interest. It's time to move on from Cooley.

Mechanix544 04-19-2013 06:39 PM

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I might be in the minority here, but if he has kept in shape, I still think Cooley and Davis would be great in 2 TE setups. I'm sure he will work out for the team, I hope he finds another home in the NFL though if not here. I still think the guy has at least 2 or 3 years left. It all depends on his work ethic from this offseason. At 900k, I don't think he is that big of a deal money wise over Paul.........

Ruhskins 04-19-2013 07:15 PM

Re: Cooley - Redskins or no one
 
I'd take Cooley over butterfingers Paul.

The Goat 04-20-2013 10:15 AM

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At best we have two TEs on the roster right now, Davis and Lunch Pail. Hopefully Davis stays healthy. I'm tired of discussing Paul as anything more than a ST player, it's ridiculous.

Regardless, I won't be surprised if Shanny drafts a TE next wknd.

53Fan 04-20-2013 01:06 PM

Re: Cooley - Redskins or no one
 
[quote=Mechanix544;1004325]I might be in the minority here, but if he has kept in shape, I still think Cooley and Davis would be great in 2 TE setups. I'm sure he will work out for the team, I hope he finds another home in the NFL though if not here. I still think the guy has at least 2 or 3 years left. It all depends on his work ethic from this offseason. At 900k, I don't think he is that big of a deal money wise over Paul.........[/quote]

This.

REDSKINS4ever 04-22-2013 04:17 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1004331]I'd take Cooley over butterfingers Paul.[/quote]

I think we all would. Niles Paul has shown and proven that he can't catch the dang football. Watching his drops is frustrating sometimes. These are passes that we all know Cooley would have easily hauled in. But Shanahan drafted Paul and moved him to TE because of his receiver like speed would be a mismatch against linebackers. So far the TE experiment concerning Niles Paul collectively hasn't worked. In time perhaps it will.

skinsguy 04-22-2013 09:30 AM

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1004632]I think we all would. Niles Paul has shown and proven that he can't catch the dang football. Watching his drops is frustrating sometimes. These are passes that we all know Cooley would have easily hauled in. But Shanahan drafted Paul and moved him to TE because of his receiver like speed would be a mismatch against linebackers. So far the TE experiment concerning Niles Paul collectively hasn't worked. In time perhaps it will.[/quote]

I've been very frustrated with Niles Paul's drops, but I'm willing to give him one more year to prove that he can catch the dang ball! As far as the mismatch against the linebackers, that has worked pretty well. Paul can get open down the field, and he does have the potential to be a deep threat type of TE, but he just needs to work on his concentration. Right now, he's catching the ball like Taylor Jacobs.

JoeRedskin 04-22-2013 09:38 AM

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I keep pulling for Paul, but he does make it hard at times. As for Cooley, yes, he would catch the ball if he were in the same spot as Paul. The problem is that he can't get to that spot when Paul does and, by the time Cooley gets there, it's simply too late.

Loved Capt. Chaos for many, many reasons, but, in shape or not, he is done.

Skins4L 04-22-2013 10:42 AM

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I hope we bring him back for depth. Couldnt he sub in @FB as well? Joe used to start him there frequent.

RedskinRat 04-22-2013 11:00 AM

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CC would also be a good mentor, he deserves a shot at two winning seasons in a row after suffering so many seasons of suck.

Monkeydad 04-22-2013 11:02 AM

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[quote=Skins4L;1004681]I hope we bring him back for depth. Couldnt he sub in @FB as well? Joe used to start him there frequent.[/quote]

I want Darrel Young out there every play we use a FB. He's a beast, especially when he gets the ball out in the open.


[quote=RedskinRat;1004691]CC would also be a good mentor, he deserves a shot at two winning seasons in a row after suffering so many seasons of suck.[/quote]

Why don't we bring back Clinton Portis too? :D

Lotus 04-22-2013 11:05 AM

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[quote=Monkeydad;1004693]I want Darrel Young out there every play we use a FB. He's a beast, especially when he gets the ball out in the open.

[/quote]

I agree.

As much as I have loved #47 in the b&g, you can't play in the NFL when your 40 is timed in minutes.

firstdown 04-22-2013 11:21 AM

Re: Cooley - Redskins or no one
 
[quote=Mechanix544;1004325]I might be in the minority here, but if he has kept in shape, I still think Cooley and Davis would be great in 2 TE setups. I'm sure he will work out for the team, I hope he finds another home in the NFL though if not here. I still think the guy has at least 2 or 3 years left. It all depends on his work ethic from this offseason. At 900k, I don't think he is that big of a deal money wise over Paul.........[/quote]

What did you see from Colley this past year that makes you think he could produce for a few more years? Was it that one catch for 8 yards? Its not the money its the roster spot I don't want to throw away on Cooley. He had the 2nd chance to show he could still produce on the field and failed.

Meks 04-22-2013 01:07 PM

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^ i dont think he was really given that much of a shot, 90% of his time on the field he was blocking/decoy..

The Goat 04-22-2013 01:17 PM

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[quote=firstdown;1004706]What did you see from Colley this past year that makes you think he could produce for a few more years? Was it that one catch for 8 yards? Its not the money its the roster spot I don't want to throw away on Cooley. He had the 2nd chance to show he could still produce on the field and failed.[/quote]

You failed! To recognize they didn't work Cooley into the gameplan. He made the most out of his one opportunity.

LOL. I bet Shanny drafts a TE. We need someone behind Davis and Paulsen.

JoeRedskin 04-22-2013 01:44 PM

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[quote=Meks;1004750]^ i dont think he was really given that much of a shot, 90% of his time on the field he was blocking/decoy..[/quote]

There was a reason for that. Look back at the reviews from camp, his loss of a step (or more) was obvious to those who observed him.

From all that I have read, Shanny is one of those "Prove It To Me" coaches. If you want to be put in a position to produce on the field, you need to show him that you can do it in practice. So, Cooley, who - by all accounts I read from people paid to make such observations - was not getting it done in practice, was simply not getting plays run through him on game day.

Given his penchant for key drops, however, I am pretty sure Paul is showing speed and little else. Something that Cooley never really possessed. It seems to me, Paul is Davis' back-up and Cooley is Paulson's back-up. At this stage of their respective careers, Paulson is hands down the better player.

Skinzman 04-22-2013 06:37 PM

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[quote=The Goat;1004751]You failed! To recognize they didn't work Cooley into the gameplan. He made the most out of his one opportunity.

LOL. I bet Shanny drafts a TE. We need someone behind Davis and Paulsen.[/quote]

Whoever they put behind Davis and Paulsen, they had better be able to do something on special teams. Seeing as the number three TE gets rated on that aspect more so than the first two.

Lets be honest, when our problem is 3rd stringers, why are we complaining? We arent New England, we just came out of 20 years of mass futility and blatant stupidity from the FO. To assume that we find 42 players who could be starters in year one and win 4 Super Bowls by year 3 is a touch unrealistic for this FO, isnt it?

We need a RT, we need Secondary, but for 20 years, we needed 18 starters and an entire roster of backups...... To go 500....

Since the SB MVP has never been a 3rd string TE, or the fact that the 3rd string TE position has never been discussed as much as it has on this very board, Im going to go with... WTF? Seriously?

I think I live in an alternate dimension where the Redskins won the NFC East last year. Apparently they had 3 wins in the normal one.

Meks 04-22-2013 08:50 PM

Re: Cooley - Redskins or no one
 
We dont need cooley on our roster, paul is quick and still coming into his own, Paulsen proved himself viable and davis is great.. most people are only talking about it cuz.the.guy was a fan favorite and its the offseason, we.talk about whatever.we.CAN , in the offseason lol... no alternate universe

NC_Skins 04-22-2013 09:39 PM

Re: Cooley - Redskins or no one
 
[quote=Meks;1004750]^ i dont think he was really given that much of a shot, 90% of his time on the field he was blocking/decoy..[/quote]


You don't get playing time in the game until you can prove it in practice. It's Shanny's way. Always has, always will. If he can't beat out Davis or Paulsen in practice, it tells you all you need to know. His injuries have slowed him down over the seasons unfortunately and he's one person who couldn't afford to lose a step.

The Goat 04-22-2013 11:32 PM

Re: Cooley - Redskins or no one
 
[quote=Skinzman;1004789]Whoever they put behind Davis and Paulsen, they had better be able to do something on special teams. Seeing as the number three TE gets rated on that aspect more so than the first two.

Lets be honest, when our problem is 3rd stringers, why are we complaining? We arent New England, we just came out of 20 years of mass futility and blatant stupidity from the FO. To assume that we find 42 players who could be starters in year one and win 4 Super Bowls by year 3 is a touch unrealistic for this FO, isnt it?

We need a RT, we need Secondary, but for 20 years, we needed 18 starters and an entire roster of backups...... To go 500....

Since the SB MVP has never been a 3rd string TE, or the fact that the 3rd string TE position has never been discussed as much as it has on this very board, Im going to go with... WTF? Seriously?

I think I live in an alternate dimension where the Redskins won the NFC East last year. Apparently they had 3 wins in the normal one.[/quote]

All good points my man. The flip-side is Davis is returning from injury and has an otherwise checkered past. Maybe it's just me, but I don't trust Davis to be "there" consistently. And I'm a big fan of Lunch Pale Logan, but my whole point is behind him we basically have nothing for TE. It's a tough sitz to be sure, but adding a quality TE not only gives us security against Davis' injury/suspension concerns, but it also gives us leverage in negotiations with him next year, and he's already shown he's going wherever he gets the biggest paycheck.

For those wringing their hands about our WR corp, I would say TE is yet a bigger concern, behind FS and RT.

The Goat 04-22-2013 11:36 PM

Re: Cooley - Redskins or no one
 
[quote=NC_Skins;1004806]You don't get playing time in the game until you can prove it in practice. It's Shanny's way. Always has, always will. If he can't beat out Davis or Paulsen in practice, it tells you all you need to know. His injuries have slowed him down over the seasons unfortunately and he's one person who couldn't afford to lose a step.[/quote]

That theory only holds water as far as Niles Paul, and B Banks before that. What, are you telling us Paul forgets how to catch, run routes and block every game but does it to perfection on the weekdays? C'mon man.

You could make the argument Shanny rewards "potential" but even that has exceptions.

ethat001 04-22-2013 11:36 PM

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[quote=Meks;1004799]We dont need cooley on our roster, paul is quick and still coming into his own, ...[/quote]


Agree, Cooley's done. But has Paul truly proven himself? Not sure I saw enough last year to be happy about the position yet.

Regardless, S.Sharpe broke out in his 3rd year as a TE, perhaps it could get better for Paul and he certainly has an elite QB throwing to him.


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